Re: freebsd 4.8 and the spamassassin 2.6x port
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 07:13:02PM -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Why perl 5.8? My 5.2 machine is running postfix, perl 5.6.1 and amavisd-new without any trouble at all. perl-5.8.2 is the official stable and recommended version of perl by the perl developers. Actually, I tell a lie -- it's perl-5.8.3 now, but that hasn't hit the ports tree yet. I'm not sure why the ports are arranged such that lang/perl5 gives you an older version of perl, and lang/perl5.8 gives you the latest -- rather than having lang/perl5.6 and lang/perl5. Probably historical reasons, although I think there is still an issue in perl-5.8.x to do with using the system malloc vs. the malloc built into perl which can sometimes (but not always) lead to performance troubles or memory leaks (depending which one you choose), which is why perl-5.6.1 is preferred by some. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freebsd 4.8 and the spamassassin 2.6x port
On Jan 23, 2004, at 8:13 PM, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Why perl 5.8? My 5.2 machine is running postfix, perl 5.6.1 and amavisd-new without any trouble at all. I don't believe that there is anything wrong with perl-5.6.x. For that matter, I don't feel religious opposition to using the stock perl as shipped with FreeBSD 4.x, but even earlier versions of SpamAssassin recommended using 5.6 or later. SA has a bunch of dependencies on various perl modules (HTML and MIME-handling stuff, mostly), and 5.8 obviously comes with a more recent version of such. There is some dichotomy between upgrading Perl stuff via CPAN versus via the ports, which is why it might be reasonable for individuals to decide whether they want to follow the Perl archive directly or wait for the ports to be tested and updates committed. -- -Chuck PS: I don't have the port version of perl installed on most of my FreeBSD systems, but I do have 5.8 installed on everything which is running SpamAssassin. Aside from an issue circa SA-2.6.1_2? or so where the Subject: header rewriting stopped working until the port was upgraded again (I think someone else mentioned this, too), SA+perl-5.8 has been working well. YMMV. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freebsd 4.8 and the spamassassin 2.6x port
I have read through the archives and seen that newer versions of Spamassassin have fits with freebsd because of an outdated perl version. I noticed that there is a SpamAssassin 2.6 port out for freeBSD 4.9 but was wondering if anyone has had success with installing it on a 4.8 system? Michael ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd 4.8 and the spamassassin 2.6x port
On Jan 23, 2004, at 1:07 PM, Michael Whitley wrote: I have read through the archives and seen that newer versions of Spamassassin have fits with freebsd because of an outdated perl version. I noticed that there is a SpamAssassin 2.6 port out for freeBSD 4.9 but was wondering if anyone has had success with installing it on a 4.8 system? FreeBSD 4.8 should be recent enough that you can use a modern ports tree without the CONFLICTS feature causing problems, so use CVSUP to update your ports tree to the current version. From there, install /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8, and then run use.perl port. That should give you the latest version of Perl, from which you can then install the p5-Mail-SpamAssassin port (or spamass-milter, or amavisd, or whatever). You can also try installing the software via perl -MCPAN -e shell \;, and do an install Mail::SpamAssassin, but the ports mechanism is better tested. -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd 4.8 and the spamassassin 2.6x port
At 12:07 PM 1.23.2004 -0600, Michael Whitley wrote: I have read through the archives and seen that newer versions of Spamassassin have fits with freebsd because of an outdated perl version. I noticed that there is a SpamAssassin 2.6 port out for freeBSD 4.9 but was wondering if anyone has had success with installing it on a 4.8 system? Michael ___ Yes, I'm running FBSD-4.8p14 I've recently updated SA-2.6x all the way to the current SA-2.63. Indeed, I had a 2-day fight with a break in a perl function that I finally found that dealt with one of the learning DBs (Bayes). Specifically, the locks on the DB became flaky. That suddenly occurred in 2.61_1. Thinking more updates would cure it, no dice. The log jam was causing a 30x jump (less than 1 sec to 30+) in the time to process a message, and breaking the scans letting spam in. After cleaning out the DB, all settled down again and messages are processed in less than a sec again -- only an occasional spam slips in -- but Bayes DB needs to rebuild to be useful again too. I've been told by one of the developers that SA-3.0 will require perl5.6.1. BTW, this is the very first time I've experience any sort of (noticeable) problem with SA and I've been using the program since SA-2.43. A great filtering tool in spite of the recent problem which wasn't fatal. Hope this helps. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator Sage American http://www.sage-american.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd 4.8 and the spamassassin 2.6x port
Michael Whitley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have read through the archives and seen that newer versions of Spamassassin have fits with freebsd because of an outdated perl version. I noticed that there is a SpamAssassin 2.6 port out for freeBSD 4.9 but was wondering if anyone has had success with installing it on a 4.8 system? I reported (within the last few days) such a problem with the port against -STABLE, but it was fixed within hours. 4.8 uses the same perl as 4.9 (5.005_03), so it's vastly unlikely you'll have any problem with 4.8. Of course, 4.8 isn't officially supported by the latest ports, but I don't think you should have any problems. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area: resume/CV at http://be-well.ilk.org:8088/~lowell/resume/ username/password public ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd 4.8 and the spamassassin 2.6x port
At 02:04 PM 1.23.2004 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: On Jan 23, 2004, at 1:07 PM, Michael Whitley wrote: I have read through the archives and seen that newer versions of Spamassassin have fits with freebsd because of an outdated perl version. I noticed that there is a SpamAssassin 2.6 port out for freeBSD 4.9 but was wondering if anyone has had success with installing it on a 4.8 system? FreeBSD 4.8 should be recent enough that you can use a modern ports tree without the CONFLICTS feature causing problems, so use CVSUP to update your ports tree to the current version. From there, install /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8, and then run use.perl port. That should give you the latest version of Perl, from which you can then install the p5-Mail-SpamAssassin port (or spamass-milter, or amavisd, or whatever). You can also try installing the software via perl -MCPAN -e shell \;, and do an install Mail::SpamAssassin, but the ports mechanism is better tested. -- -Chuck For SA-2.6x, perl5.003 is fine. But as of yesterday, the developer advised me that when SA-3.0 is released, perl5.6.1 is required and recommended -- see my earlier post. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator Sage American http://www.sage-american.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd 4.8 and the spamassassin 2.6x port
Charles Swiger wrote: FreeBSD 4.8 should be recent enough that you can use a modern ports tree without the CONFLICTS feature causing problems, so use CVSUP to update your ports tree to the current version. From there, install /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8, and then run use.perl port. That should give you the latest version of Perl, from which you can then install the p5-Mail-SpamAssassin port (or spamass-milter, or amavisd, or whatever). You can also try installing the software via perl -MCPAN -e shell \;, and do an install Mail::SpamAssassin, but the ports mechanism is better tested. Why perl 5.8? My 5.2 machine is running postfix, perl 5.6.1 and amavisd-new without any trouble at all. Tom Veldhouse ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
