good browser and java combo?
I was wondering what browsers and java seem to work the best. I need to do online banking and would like to use java applets such as the chat.yahoo.com. I have tried both mozilla and netscap with suns current java-runtime and have found them to be extermetly unreliable. I wanted to switch from windows to unix for about 2 yrs but could never find a solution to java, and that remains the case after 3 yrs. Why is good java support in browsers so difficult in unnix, seeing how java started its life in the unix community. I cat believe windows and internet explorer is actually better at java then unix. Any good lightweight browsers other than netscape, mozilla or opera that work with java? Thanks in ./adv ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good browser and java combo?
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 04:01:03 -0500, sweetleaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what browsers and java seem to work the best. I need to do online banking and would like to use java applets such as the chat.yahoo.com. I have tried both mozilla and netscap with suns current java-runtime and have found them to be extermetly unreliable. I wanted to switch from windows to unix for about 2 yrs but could never find a solution to java, and that remains the case after 3 yrs. Why is good java support in browsers so difficult in unnix, seeing how java started its life in the unix community. I cat believe windows and internet explorer is actually better at java then unix. Any good lightweight browsers other than netscape, mozilla or opera that work with java? Thanks in ./adv Sorry that I haven't used Java enough in FreeBSD to answer your question about browsers (my rural area limited to 28.8K dialup and satellite; latter's too expensive, so installing Java is the work of days). I can at least tell you, though, that the unreliability you see is simply due to MS's 'hijacking' of Java by use of a non-standard VM. Because of IE's market share, the sites you want to use all are tested and work with IE's non-standard Java, but that's not the case for Sun's or IBM's standard versions. Hmm, so maybe I've answered your question anyway - any non-IE browser will have difficulty on many Java Web sites because it's not using IE's virtual machine. Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good browser and java combo?
Thats sad, i cant believe Microshit is able to exploit others technology. I guess in this world it will always come down to politics and money. As Mr. Franklin said there are always two things in life you can count on, death and taxes. I am all for opensrc code, however i think the GPL and opensrc community should change their license to disallow government and large companies from taking the technology and using it for their own profit and or against us. Look at Sun and IBM, they all have their own brand of linux and several are using linux and bsd servers / computers to support their business. They take, take and take but give nothing in return. I say change the license and make them shell out millions on inferior proprietary operating systems such as slowaris. On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:14:22 -0400 Jud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 04:01:03 -0500, sweetleaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what browsers and java seem to work the best. I need to do online banking and would like to use java applets such as the chat.yahoo.com. I have tried both mozilla and netscap with suns current java-runtime and have found them to be extermetly unreliable. I wanted to switch from windows to unix for about 2 yrs but could never find a solution to java, and that remains the case after 3 yrs. Why is good java support in browsers so difficult in unnix, seeing how java started its life in the unix community. I cat believe windows and internet explorer is actually better at java then unix. Any good lightweight browsers other than netscape, mozilla or opera that work with java? Thanks in ./adv Sorry that I haven't used Java enough in FreeBSD to answer your question about browsers (my rural area limited to 28.8K dialup and satellite; latter's too expensive, so installing Java is the work of days). I can at least tell you, though, that the unreliability you see is simply due to MS's 'hijacking' of Java by use of a non-standard VM. Because of IE's market share, the sites you want to use all are tested and work with IE's non-standard Java, but that's not the case for Sun's or IBM's standard versions. Hmm, so maybe I've answered your question anyway - any non-IE browser will have difficulty on many Java Web sites because it's not using IE's virtual machine. Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good browser and java combo?
I took a look at both your recommendations. The issue i have with both is they require mozilla as they use it for the core rendering code and maybe more. If i had problems with mozilla, i would think i would have the same issues with these two. Is there nothing out there besides opera that does not share netscrape or mozilla code and works with java? Thanks in ./adv On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:27:09 -0300 Han Hwei Woo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try galeon or skipstone. Han Hwei Woo http://www.argosy.ca/~hhw - Original Message - From: sweetleaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:01 AM Subject: good browser and java combo? I was wondering what browsers and java seem to work the best. I need to do online banking and would like to use java applets such as the chat.yahoo.com. I have tried both mozilla and netscap with suns current java-runtime and have found them to be extermetly unreliable. I wanted to switch from windows to unix for about 2 yrs but could never find a solution to java, and that remains the case after 3 yrs. Why is good java support in browsers so difficult in unnix, seeing how java started its life in the unix community. I cat believe windows and internet explorer is actually better at java then unix. Any good lightweight browsers other than netscape, mozilla or opera that work with java? Thanks in ./adv ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good browser and java combo?
For someone on a BSD mailing list, you sure sound like a Linuz zealot. 1) Sun IBM have made major contributions to the development of Linux. What do you think SCO is accusing IBM of? 2) The GPL already does prevent all works and derivate works to be sold for profit, and is quite restrictive in that sense. It's the BSD license that allows for commercial use. 3) Solaris has many advanced technologies that are still in their infancy on Linux. Han Hwei Woo http://www.argosy.ca/~hhw - Original Message - From: sweetleaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jud [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:33 PM Subject: Re: good browser and java combo? Thats sad, i cant believe Microshit is able to exploit others technology. I guess in this world it will always come down to politics and money. As Mr. Franklin said there are always two things in life you can count on, death and taxes. I am all for opensrc code, however i think the GPL and opensrc community should change their license to disallow government and large companies from taking the technology and using it for their own profit and or against us. Look at Sun and IBM, they all have their own brand of linux and several are using linux and bsd servers / computers to support their business. They take, take and take but give nothing in return. I say change the license and make them shell out millions on inferior proprietary operating systems such as slowaris. On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:14:22 -0400 Jud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 04:01:03 -0500, sweetleaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what browsers and java seem to work the best. I need to do online banking and would like to use java applets such as the chat.yahoo.com. I have tried both mozilla and netscap with suns current java-runtime and have found them to be extermetly unreliable. I wanted to switch from windows to unix for about 2 yrs but could never find a solution to java, and that remains the case after 3 yrs. Why is good java support in browsers so difficult in unnix, seeing how java started its life in the unix community. I cat believe windows and internet explorer is actually better at java then unix. Any good lightweight browsers other than netscape, mozilla or opera that work with java? Thanks in ./adv Sorry that I haven't used Java enough in FreeBSD to answer your question about browsers (my rural area limited to 28.8K dialup and satellite; latter's too expensive, so installing Java is the work of days). I can at least tell you, though, that the unreliability you see is simply due to MS's 'hijacking' of Java by use of a non-standard VM. Because of IE's market share, the sites you want to use all are tested and work with IE's non-standard Java, but that's not the case for Sun's or IBM's standard versions. Hmm, so maybe I've answered your question anyway - any non-IE browser will have difficulty on many Java Web sites because it's not using IE's virtual machine. Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
