Re: is vinum in FBSD 6.0?
On Friday, 2 June 2006 at 5:04:15 -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: Travis H. wrote: Is there some kind of IP lawsuit over vinum or something? If so, it's never been mentioned ;-) It has now, but it's the first time I've heard of it. It's a valid question, but I don't think Greg's that kind of guy. As for Veritas, I *think* they had some sort of agreement (re: the name), (but I could be blowing smoke there); IIRC, vinum(8) was patterned after the idea of the Veritas software, and not in any way a copy or clone of it In fact, I never asked VERITAS. I only modelled Vinum on VxVM, anyway; there are big differences. In any case, there was one IP issue at the very beginning: I developed the RAID-5 functionality under contract with Cybernet Inc., and part of that agreement was that I would not release it until 18 months after it became functional. That time has long passed, and RAID-5 has of course been released. There have never been any conflicts arising from IP issues, neither with Cybernet, VERITAS, myself or anybody else. As others have stated, vinum has been replaced by gvinum. Greg had stated in the past that the GEOM layer's introduction had badly broken vinum, so I'm guessing that vinum was removed so that no one would attempt to use it on a newer system and get unexpected results. The original intention was to modify Vinum to work with GEOM. Lukas did the work, and he chose to rewrite significant parts of it, and also to rename it. I disagreed with both of these decisions (see the problems they've caused, like what's being discussed here), but he's the man, and he gets to call the shots. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpjzW7IHXfWa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is vinum in FBSD 6.0?
I recently installed 6.0, and there doesn't seem to be a vinum binary. There is a gvinum binary, but it doesn't even implement all of the commands in its own help screen. I'm somewhat confused. Did I screw up my install, or is this normal? Is there some kind of IP lawsuit over vinum or something? -- Scientia Est Potentia -- Eppur Si Muove Security guru for rent or hire - http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ -- GPG fingerprint: 9D3F 395A DAC5 5CCC 9066 151D 0A6B 4098 0C55 1484 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] vinum has been replaced by gvinum and geom see the handbook for setup. Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is vinum in FBSD 6.0?
Travis H. wrote: Is there some kind of IP lawsuit over vinum or something? If so, it's never been mentioned ;-) It's a valid question, but I don't think Greg's that kind of guy. As for Veritas, I *think* they had some sort of agreement (re: the name), (but I could be blowing smoke there); IIRC, vinum(8) was patterned after the idea of the Veritas software, and not in any way a copy or clone of it As others have stated, vinum has been replaced by gvinum. Greg had stated in the past that the GEOM layer's introduction had badly broken vinum, so I'm guessing that vinum was removed so that no one would attempt to use it on a newer system and get unexpected results. My $0.02, IANAL, IANAE, etc., Kevin Kinsey -- It is now 10 p.m. Do you know where Henry Kissinger is? -- Elizabeth Carpenter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is vinum in FBSD 6.0?
I recently installed 6.0, and there doesn't seem to be a vinum binary. There is a gvinum binary, but it doesn't even implement all of the commands in its own help screen. I'm somewhat confused. Did I screw up my install, or is this normal? Is there some kind of IP lawsuit over vinum or something? -- Scientia Est Potentia -- Eppur Si Muove Security guru for rent or hire - http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ -- GPG fingerprint: 9D3F 395A DAC5 5CCC 9066 151D 0A6B 4098 0C55 1484 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is vinum in FBSD 6.0?
Travis H. wrote: I recently installed 6.0, and there doesn't seem to be a vinum binary. There is a gvinum binary, but it doesn't even implement all of the commands in its own help screen. I'm somewhat confused. Did I screw up my install, or is this normal? Is there some kind of IP lawsuit over vinum or something? Hi, The following is an extract from: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-vinum.html [...] Note: Starting with FreeBSD 5, Vinum has been rewritten in order to fit into the GEOM architecture (Chapter 18), retaining the original ideas, terminology, and on-disk metadata. This rewrite is called gvinum (for GEOM vinum). The following text usually refers to Vinum as an abstract name, regardless of the implementation variant. Any command invocations should now be done using the gvinum command, and the name of the kernel module has been changed from vinum.ko to geom_vinum.ko, and all device nodes reside under /dev/gvinum instead of /dev/vinum. As of FreeBSD 6, the old Vinum implementation is no longer available in the code base. [...] Cheers, Mikhail. -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501 Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.webanoide.org PGP Key ID: 0x4E148A3B PGP Key Fingerprint: D96B 7C14 79A5 8824 B99D 9562 F50E 2F5D 4E14 8A3B ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
