FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE doesn't correctly detect USB mouse/keyboard

2013-10-11 Thread Odhiambo Washington
I am running vanilla 9.2-RELEASE on an HP Z230.

Strangely, my USB keyboard and mouse don't work. When I attach, here is
what shows:

Oct 11 12:36:39 waridi kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed
(USB_ERR_IOERROR, ignored)
Oct 11 12:36:39 waridi kernel: ugen0.2: Unknown at usbus0 (disconnected)
Oct 11 12:36:39 waridi kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new
device
Oct 11 12:36:48 waridi kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed
(USB_ERR_IOERROR, ignored)
Oct 11 12:36:48 waridi kernel: ugen0.2: Unknown at usbus0 (disconnected)
Oct 11 12:36:48 waridi kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new
device
Oct 11 12:36:55 waridi kernel: usb_alloc_device: device init 2 failed
(USB_ERR_IOERROR, ignored)
Oct 11 12:36:55 waridi kernel: ugen0.2: Unknown at usbus0 (disconnected)
Oct 11 12:36:55 waridi kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new
device

$ uname -a
FreeBSD waridi.kihingovillage.com 9.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE #0
r255898: Thu Sep 26 22:50:31 UTC 2013 r...@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj
/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

I am wondering if there is something obvious I am missing?



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detecting keyboard layout during boot

2013-05-15 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

I have in /etc/rc.conf a line

keymap=german.iso

to set the keyboard to German; as the system in question is on an USB
key for boot and sometimes used in other laptops with QWERTY layout, I
would like to have it adapt itself to the actual layout without changing
anything before booting in rc.conf and without asking the user to press
a key ... is there some way to detect the actual keyboard layout
automagically?

Thanks

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Re: detecting keyboard layout during boot

2013-05-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 09:35 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 is there some way to detect the actual keyboard layout
 automagically?

I suspect it's impossible to request what keyboard is used, since some
Linux installers ask the user to type some keys, after that
auto-detection does work. Perhaps you only can start a session with a
script, that does ask the user to type and then set up the needed
keyboard map.

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Re: detecting keyboard layout during boot

2013-05-15 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:35:54 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have in /etc/rc.conf a line
 
 keymap=german.iso
 
 to set the keyboard to German; as the system in question is on an USB
 key for boot and sometimes used in other laptops with QWERTY layout, I
 would like to have it adapt itself to the actual layout without changing
 anything before booting in rc.conf and without asking the user to press
 a key ... is there some way to detect the actual keyboard layout
 automagically?

Basically, it's impossible, but it can be made possible by the
power of FreeBSD. :-)

Allow me to explain:

Depending on where the keyboard is attached, some connections
(AT 5 pin plug, PS/2 6 pin mini-plug) do not offer any means to
detect what keyboard is connected (or even _if_ a keyboard is
connected). This case usually applies to keyboards built into
laptops. You can see that in dmesg | grep kbd.

Example:

% dmesg | grep kbd
kbd1 at kbdmux0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
ukbd0: vendor 0x0430 Sun USB Keyboard, class 0/0,
rev 2.00/1.05, addr 5 on usbus1
kbd2 at ukbd0

You see: The AT keyboard controller is detected, kbd0 is available.
But there is no actual keyboard connected to that PS/2 port. Instead,
a Sun USB Type 7 keyboard (german layout) is being used here, as
kbd2.

But as you're asking about USB, there is a way. But this way
depends on how the manufacturer cooperates. Let's discuss that.

As you know, every USB device is characterized by two specific
USB numbers: vendor ID and product ID. In some cases, the product
ID is different regarding the language layout, but you need to
test that individually, no standard seems to exist.

Then, you can use the devd.conf file to select per this ID and
load the correct keyboard layout. This is done in the rc.conf
stage. Prior to this stage, the kernel stage, you can hardcode
layouts in the kernel config. Last time I checked this stopped
working, I have been told that the use of kbdmux is the reason
for this observation.

Example:

options ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP
makeoptions ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=german.iso
options UKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP
makeoptions UKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=german.iso

Those options would enable a german keyboard layout even in SUM.
Even adding a font for proper display has been possible:

options SC_DFLT_FONT
makeoptions SC_DFLT_FONT=iso

Not sure if this is still supported. Using Umlauts and Eszett is
discouraged in filenames, and the blind knowledge of the US keyboard
layout is quite standard among sysadmins. :-)



As a summery: No soup for you! ;-)




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Re: detecting keyboard layout during boot

2013-05-15 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, May 15, 2013 a las 03:27:24PM +0200, Polytropon escribió:

 On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:35:54 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  I have in /etc/rc.conf a line
  
  keymap=german.iso
  
  to set the keyboard to German; as the system in question is on an USB
  key for boot and sometimes used in other laptops with QWERTY layout, I
  would like to have it adapt itself to the actual layout without changing
  anything before booting in rc.conf and without asking the user to press
  a key ... is there some way to detect the actual keyboard layout
  automagically?
 
 Basically, it's impossible, but it can be made possible by the
 power of FreeBSD. :-)
 
 Allow me to explain:
 
 Depending on where the keyboard is attached, some connections
 (AT 5 pin plug, PS/2 6 pin mini-plug) do not offer any means to
 detect what keyboard is connected (or even _if_ a keyboard is
 connected). This case usually applies to keyboards built into
 laptops. You can see that in dmesg | grep kbd.
 
 Example:
 
   % dmesg | grep kbd
   kbd1 at kbdmux0
   atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
   atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
   kbd0 at atkbd0
   atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
   atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
   ukbd0: vendor 0x0430 Sun USB Keyboard, class 0/0,
   rev 2.00/1.05, addr 5 on usbus1
   kbd2 at ukbd0
 
 You see: The AT keyboard controller is detected, kbd0 is available.
 But there is no actual keyboard connected to that PS/2 port. Instead,
 a Sun USB Type 7 keyboard (german layout) is being used here, as
 kbd2.

Hello,

Here on an laptop/netbook EeePC 900 with English keyboard it says:

# dmesg | fgrep kbd
kbd1 at kbdmux0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0

how do I know that the kb layout is English?

 But as you're asking about USB, there is a way. But this way
 depends on how the manufacturer cooperates. Let's discuss that.

USB was only meant as the boot device.

matthias

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Re: detecting keyboard layout during boot

2013-05-15 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:53:08 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Here on an laptop/netbook EeePC 900 with English keyboard it says:
 
 # dmesg | fgrep kbd
 kbd1 at kbdmux0
 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
 kbd0 at atkbd0
 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
 
 how do I know that the kb layout is English?

By looking at it. ONLY by looking at it. :-)

Even if you would remove the built-in keyboard (disconnect the
flex), you would see that entry. It's not about the keyboard per
se, it's about the keyboard controller. This interface usually
is in parallel with a PS/2 connector (if present). There is
no language information in it.



  But as you're asking about USB, there is a way. But this way
  depends on how the manufacturer cooperates. Let's discuss that.
 
 USB was only meant as the boot device.

Okay, then I misread it. English is not my native language. :-)

The logical conclusion: You have no way to find out what keyboard
is physically installed (or attached via PS/2).

This _might_ be not entirely true: If you can obtain some hardware
identification of the eeePC you're using, maybe some kind of ACPI
string or other vendor and product ID from some component, you could
guess what localization the device has, and then assume what
keyboard is installed. But that's just a wild guess from my side.



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Re: detecting keyboard layout during boot

2013-05-15 Thread Signore Citizen


On Wed, May 15, 2013, at 07:45 AM, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:53:08 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Here on an laptop/netbook EeePC 900 with English keyboard it says:
  
  # dmesg | fgrep kbd
  kbd1 at kbdmux0
  atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
  atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
  kbd0 at atkbd0
  atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
  psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
  
  how do I know that the kb layout is English?
 
 By looking at it. ONLY by looking at it. :-)
 
 Even if you would remove the built-in keyboard (disconnect the
 flex), you would see that entry. It's not about the keyboard per
 se, it's about the keyboard controller. This interface usually
 is in parallel with a PS/2 connector (if present). There is
 no language information in it.
 
 
 
   But as you're asking about USB, there is a way. But this way
   depends on how the manufacturer cooperates. Let's discuss that.
  
  USB was only meant as the boot device.
 
 Okay, then I misread it. English is not my native language. :-)
 
 The logical conclusion: You have no way to find out what keyboard
 is physically installed (or attached via PS/2).
 
 This _might_ be not entirely true: If you can obtain some hardware
 identification of the eeePC you're using, maybe some kind of ACPI
 string or other vendor and product ID from some component, you could
 guess what localization the device has, and then assume what
 keyboard is installed. But that's just a wild guess from my side.
 
 
Have you tried dmidecode?

Handle 0x000E, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: J1A1
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: Keyboard
External Connector Type: PS/2
Port Type: Keyboard Port

Handle 0x000F, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
Internal Reference Designator: J1A1
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: Mouse
External Connector Type: PS/2
Port Type: Mouse Port


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Keyboard weirdness

2013-01-12 Thread Andre Goree

All of a sudden today Im having a very weird issue with my keyboards.

1. Pressing the ctrl key nets a single quotation mark
2. Pressing s nets s. (s followed by a period).  Pressing period nets that  
same s. combination

3. Pressing the quotation key does nothing.

Thats just what Ive come across so far.  You can imagine how much Ive had  
to edit this mes.s.age with all the periods and letter s Ive typed...


Anyone have an idea of why this might be happening?  I didnt change  
anything, and it seems to happen even on the console.


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Re: Keyboard weirdness

2013-01-12 Thread Andre Goree

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:48:01 -0500, Andre Goree an...@drenet.info wrote:


All of a sudden today Im having a very weird issue with my keyboards.

1. Pressing the ctrl key nets a single quotation mark
2. Pressing s nets s. (s followed by a period).  Pressing period nets  
that same s. combination

3. Pressing the quotation key does nothing.

Thats just what Ive come across so far.  You can imagine how much Ive  
had to edit this mes.s.age with all the periods and letter s Ive typed...


Anyone have an idea of why this might be happening?  I didnt change  
anything, and it seems to happen even on the console.




Turns out this is a hardware problem with they keyboard itself, I have the  
same issue when plugging the keyboard into another system.




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Re: keyboard and mouse problem

2013-01-09 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jack Mc Lauren jack.mclau...@yahoo.com writes:

 I have a freeBSD 8.2 amd64 on my system and I'm using
 gnome environment. But after a few seconds my USB keyboard and  PS/2
 mouse hang up !!!

 What should I do ?

Are you still able to switch to other virtual terminals?
Are you still able to ssh in to the system and see whether the console
mouse and keyboard are generating interrupts?
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Re: keyboard and mouse problem

2013-01-09 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 23:53:04 -0800 (PST)
Jack Mc Lauren jack.mclau...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have a freeBSD 8.2 amd64 on my system and I'm using
 gnome environment. But after a few seconds my USB keyboard and  PS/2
 mouse hang up !!!
 
when did you setup the system? Did this happen after an update?

 What should I do ?
 
Can you test without mouse?

To  be honest, I was not able to get a system up with a PS/2 mouse or
keyboard since years. I blamed it on the old hardware and got me a new
keyboard and a new mouse with USB.

Erich
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keyboard and mouse problem

2013-01-08 Thread Jack Mc Lauren
Hi guys

I have a freeBSD 8.2 amd64 on my system and I'm using gnome environment. But 
after a few seconds my USB keyboard and  PS/2 mouse hang up !!!

What should I do ?

Thanks in advance ...
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Apple Aluminium Keyboard (w/ numpad) woe

2012-08-09 Thread Steve Roome
Hi all, has anyone got any pointers for why my Apple (A1243)
wired USB keyboard (with numpad, gb/uk model) doesn't want to
report  F13 (and some other keys).

This is on 9.0, though it was the same on 8, 7, and IIRC, 6.

It's clear that the ukbd driver sees the key presses (see below),
but I can't seem to get them to be recognised by syscons.

(Even with a syscons keymap where all the NUL's have become '*')

With ukbd debug via the sysctl I see the following, so clearly ukbd
gets the keys (this output is from pressing, Return, F13, F14, F15)

...

but why doesn't syscons get the keys ?

Aug  9 23:41:09 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x28 (40) pressed
Aug  9 23:41:09 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:09 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x
Aug  9 23:41:09 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x428 (1064) released
Aug  9 23:41:10 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:10 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x
Aug  9 23:41:10 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: [0] = 0x28
Aug  9 23:41:10 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x28 (40) pressed
Aug  9 23:41:11 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:11 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x
Aug  9 23:41:11 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x428 (1064) released
Aug  9 23:41:12 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:12 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x
Aug  9 23:41:12 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: [0] = 0x68
Aug  9 23:41:12 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x68 (104) pressed
Aug  9 23:41:12 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:12 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x
Aug  9 23:41:12 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x468 (1128) released
Aug  9 23:41:13 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:13 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x
Aug  9 23:41:13 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: [0] = 0x69
Aug  9 23:41:13 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x69 (105) pressed
Aug  9 23:41:13 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:13 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x
Aug  9 23:41:13 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x469 (1129) released
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: [0] = 0x6a
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x6a (106) pressed
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0x46a (1130) released
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: actlen=8 bytes
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_intr_callback: modifiers = 0x0001
Aug  9 23:41:14 tv kernel: ukbd_put_key: 0xe0 (224) pressed

Thanks very much, and apologies if there's a known answer, it's
not something I've managed to find yet if it is.

Steve Roome

P.S. I'm hoping for an obvious hint or flag somewhere to set, but
I'm open to doing a bit of code if that's the only way.

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Re: Apple Aluminium Keyboard (w/ numpad) woe

2012-08-09 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:10:46 +0100, Steve Roome wrote:
 Hi all, has anyone got any pointers for why my Apple (A1243)
 wired USB keyboard (with numpad, gb/uk model) doesn't want to
 report  F13 (and some other keys).

Seems to be related not only to this model. I have the
old version here (white plastic, german layout), and
F13-F16 and the four keys on the top right don't seem
to generate anything. I've checked both text mode and
xev (in X) - and made almost the same observations as
you did. I don't have that kind of strange behaviour
with other multifunctional keyboards (Sun type 6 and 7,
german layout).



 Thanks very much, and apologies if there's a known answer, it's
 not something I've managed to find yet if it is.

Sorry, no solution here, only confirmation... :-(




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Re: keyboard latency from time to time

2012-05-10 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, April 09, 2012 a las 07:06:59PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

 Months later, in some other issue, I learned about the feature of KDE
 slow keys and what I have described is exactly the same behaviour and
 I can now even reproduce this with just pressing and holding down the
 Shift-key for around 8 secs; when it happens one must go to the KDE
 Control Center and activate 'slow keys' (yes, they are not shown as
 activated in this moment) and deactivate 'slow keys' again, and all is
 fine.

I was curious and digged deeper into this...

slow keys is part of the X11 XKB-protocol (details in XKBproto.pdf or
XkbGetSlowKeysDelay(3) man page; in the ports there is ports/x11/xkbset
utility and with this one can set the Slowkeys acceptance delay (time
in ms the X server awaits a key is hold down before sending out the
keypress event) or to switch it off again:

$ xkbset slowkeys 500  # to switch in on and set 500ms delay
$ xkbset -slowkeys # to switch it off again

HIH

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Re: Was..... Lots of lagging after upgrade of xorg. Now keyboard layout is lost

2012-04-24 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:13:20 +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 
 
 2012-04-23 19:56, Leslie Jensen skrev:
 
 
  2012-04-23 18:29, Warren Block skrev:
  On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 
 
   Use Option
  AutoAddDevices Off to disable HAL input device detection.
  ___
 
 
  http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html
 
 
 
 
 After adding the above Option I lost the Swedish layout of my keyboard.
 
 Following the instructions and editing the
 
 /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi
 
 
 I already have the file in place with the following setup:
 
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
 deviceinfo version=0.2
device
  match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard
 merge key=input.x11_options.XkbOptions 
 type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
 /merge
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbModel 
 type=stringlatitude/merge
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringse/merge
  /match
/device
 /deviceinfo
 
 
 Where else can I control the setting for Swedish?

You could use the default method: /etc/X11/xorg.conf which is
designed to _centralize_ X-related settings. Keyboard settings
can also be put there.

For example, this is what I use to define a german keyboard
layout (and which applies everywhere in X, as intended):

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout de
Option  XkbOptionsterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
EndSection

You can employ this approach, changing it to swedish language.
Note that I'm using the X setup without HAL and DBUS here.

Additionally, there's the method of using xmodmap with a
custom ~/.xmodmaprc file which can be used to make keyboard
language settings work _independently_ from both xorg.conf
and XML files scattered across the local/ subtree. :-)



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Re: Was..... Lots of lagging after upgrade of xorg. Now keyboard layout is lost

2012-04-24 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:

2012-04-23 19:56, Leslie Jensen skrev:

2012-04-23 18:29, Warren Block skrev:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:




Use Option

AutoAddDevices Off to disable HAL input device detection.
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http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html



After adding the above Option I lost the Swedish layout of my keyboard.


It's not required to disable HAL, but that's usually what people are 
trying to do when they turn off AEI.


To leave HAL enabled, remove the AutoAddDevices option.  Keyboard layout 
will come from the HAL fdi file.


Keyboard layout can also be set with setxkbmap in .xinitrc or .xsession, 
or in the keyboard InputDevice section as Polytropon shows.

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Re: Was..... Lots of lagging after upgrade of xorg. Now keyboard layout is lost

2012-04-24 Thread Leslie Jensen



2012-04-24 16:01, Warren Block skrev:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:

2012-04-23 19:56, Leslie Jensen skrev:

2012-04-23 18:29, Warren Block skrev:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:




Use Option

AutoAddDevices Off to disable HAL input device detection.
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http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html



After adding the above Option I lost the Swedish layout of my keyboard.


It's not required to disable HAL, but that's usually what people are
trying to do when they turn off AEI.

To leave HAL enabled, remove the AutoAddDevices option. Keyboard layout
will come from the HAL fdi file.

Keyboard layout can also be set with setxkbmap in .xinitrc or .xsession,
or in the keyboard InputDevice section as Polytropon shows.
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Yes, thank you.

Polytropon solution works for me :-)

/Leslie

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Was..... Lots of lagging after upgrade of xorg. Now keyboard layout is lost

2012-04-23 Thread Leslie Jensen



2012-04-23 19:56, Leslie Jensen skrev:



2012-04-23 18:29, Warren Block skrev:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:




 Use Option

AutoAddDevices Off to disable HAL input device detection.
___




http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html





After adding the above Option I lost the Swedish layout of my keyboard.

Following the instructions and editing the

/usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi


I already have the file in place with the following setup:


?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
deviceinfo version=0.2
  device
match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbOptions 
type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

/merge
  merge key=input.x11_options.XkbModel 
type=stringlatitude/merge

  merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringse/merge
/match
  /device
/deviceinfo


Where else can I control the setting for Swedish?


I can see in /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst that there is the ! 
variant parameters.



Any hints appreciated.

Thanks

/Leslie

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Dual monitors ok, but no mouse and keyboard action on the slave screen

2012-04-22 Thread Kenneth Hatteland
I`ve gotten a 17 inch monitor in addition to my 22 inch working with 2 
separate desktops. I plan to have stuff like wireshark etc on the 
smallest. But I have a problem, I can get no work done since I have no 
mouse or keyboard working on the 17...


Anyone have somewhere with a solution to point me towards ?

Blessed be..

Kenneth Hatteland
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Re: Dual monitors ok, but no mouse and keyboard action on the slave screen

2012-04-22 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:43:31 +0200, Kenneth Hatteland wrote:
 I`ve gotten a 17 inch monitor in addition to my 22 inch working with 2 
 separate desktops. I plan to have stuff like wireshark etc on the 
 smallest. But I have a problem, I can get no work done since I have no 
 mouse or keyboard working on the 17...
 
 Anyone have somewhere with a solution to point me towards ?

There are basically two kind of two-monitor settings: One
is to have the WM manage them, the other one is to concatenate
them to one logical screen.

I've been using the concatenated screen with two 21 CRTs,
each running at 1400x1050, so the result was a 2800x1050
ultra extended extraordinary super hyper big wide screen. :-)

You can configure this in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which you
can have X auto-generate).

For example, ServerLayout could contain

Screen 0 Screen0 0 0
Screen 1 Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
Option Xinerama on

Then add the two Monitor sections according to the screen
parameters (in my case, identical data).

In the final Screen section, you can then experiment with

Option TwinView
Option TwinViewOrientation LeftOf
Option ConnectedMonitor CRT, CRT

depending on your actual connection setup.



You can find more inspiration here:

Dual head issues, non-xinerama setup possible?
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=11567

Dual monitor setup
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2005-January/005613.html

Dual monitors xorg.conf
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-May/087929.html

Using two monitors with X.org
http://www.freebsddiary.org/xorg-two-screens.php



Many things to consider depend on your actual setting (which
hardware you have, what WM you use and which behaviour you
want).



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Re: Dual monitors ok, but no mouse and keyboard action on the slave screen

2012-04-22 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Polytropon wrote:


On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:43:31 +0200, Kenneth Hatteland wrote:

I`ve gotten a 17 inch monitor in addition to my 22 inch working with 2
separate desktops. I plan to have stuff like wireshark etc on the
smallest. But I have a problem, I can get no work done since I have no
mouse or keyboard working on the 17...

Anyone have somewhere with a solution to point me towards ?


There are basically two kind of two-monitor settings: One
is to have the WM manage them, the other one is to concatenate
them to one logical screen.

I've been using the concatenated screen with two 21 CRTs,
each running at 1400x1050, so the result was a 2800x1050
ultra extended extraordinary super hyper big wide screen. :-)

You can configure this in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which you
can have X auto-generate).

For example, ServerLayout could contain

Screen 0 Screen0 0 0
Screen 1 Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
Option Xinerama on


The newer way to do this is with a Virtual entry in the Screen section:

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   HWP
ModelName2615
Option   PreferredMode 1920x1200
Option   Position 1280 0
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor1
VendorName   SAM
ModelName215
Option   PreferredMode 1280x1024
Option   Position 0 0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
SubSection Display
Virtual 3200 1200
EndSubSection
EndSection
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Keyboard Input Vanishes Seconds After Loading GNOME

2012-04-12 Thread tmp
I am experiencing a most peculiar problem upon loading the GNOME 
desktop on a brand new install of FreeBSD v9.0 RELEASE.


So far, I have

Installed the FreeBSD v9.0 RELEASE operating system for the x86-64 
platform

Installed xorg
Installed gnome2

In order to enable both the loading of xorg and gnome(2), I have edited 
my /etc/rc.conf file. Here is what cat reports:


#cat /etc/rc.conf
hostname= Mephisto
ifconfig_re0=DHCP
sshd_enable=YES
moused_enable=YES
#Set dumpdev to AUTO to enable crash dumps, NO to disable
dumpdev=NO
hald_enable=YES
dbus_enable=YES
gnome_enable=YES
gdm_enable=YES

After entering in my password at the GNOME GDM login, I am able to get 
to my desktop and have access to my programs. However, if I were to open 
say Gedit and type for any period of time, my keyboard input will 
disappear and I will either be unable to type anything or it will 
infinitely type the last character I typed (e.g. the letter k).


Has anyone else faced this situation and if so, how do I go about 
solving this?


Thank you very much for taking the time to read my request.

Sincerely,

Timothy

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Re: keyboard latency from time to time

2012-04-09 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, July 25, 2011 a las 05:10:47PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

 
 Hello,
 
 I run a 9-CURRENT from end of October on an Acer D250 laptop; which in
 general runs very fine; from time to time (say once a month) I encounter
 the following situation within KDE3 or X11:
 
 from a moment to another (can't say what action triggers this) the
 keyboard stops working; there are just no keyevents delivered on short
 press to any window; I've checked it with xev(1); mouse is working fine and I 
 can
 close the windows or the whole session of KDE, of course loosing my
 connections or the content of files I'm editing in that moment;
 
 the keyevent is only delivered when you press the key for around half
 second, or so, and after this also the normal key re-iteration is
 produced; its even hard to catch only one keyevent and not twice or more;
 this is true for all keys, including Ctrl and Backspace, ...
 
 after restarting X11 and KDE it is fine again;

Hello,

Months later, in some other issue, I learned about the feature of KDE
slow keys and what I have described is exactly the same behaviour and
I can now even reproduce this with just pressing and holding down the
Shift-key for around 8 secs; when it happens one must go to the KDE
Control Center and activate 'slow keys' (yes, they are not shown as
activated in this moment) and deactivate 'slow keys' again, and all is
fine.

matthias
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Re: XFCE keyboard layout tab missing

2012-01-27 Thread Tony McC
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:12:09 +
Neil Munro neilmu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all, first I apologise if this is a known issue, I have been
 searching but can't seem to find an answer. I am looking to switch to
 FreeBSD full time and this is the only thing holding me back I want to
 run XFCE and I know the 4.8 release has some issues with mounting
 devices which used to use HAL but doesn't now, from what I understand
 of the issue it's not a deal breaker for me, what I am struggling with
 is that I cannot set the keyboard in XFCE to dvorak, as the layout tab
 is missing and the keyboard icon in the settings window has no icon. I
 imagined this was at first just requiring the correct language pack
 but having installed the GB language pack the missing tab does not
 appear. Additionally I recompiled xfce4-settings with all options
 enabled to no avail.
 
 Does anyone know what may be causing this issue?
 
 Many thanks,
 Neil

Hi Neil,

I think you need to install the
port /usr/ports/deskutils/xfce4-xkb-plugin
(or package if you prefer).

Tony
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XFCE keyboard layout tab missing

2012-01-26 Thread Neil Munro
Hi all, first I apologise if this is a known issue, I have been
searching but can't seem to find an answer. I am looking to switch to
FreeBSD full time and this is the only thing holding me back I want to
run XFCE and I know the 4.8 release has some issues with mounting
devices which used to use HAL but doesn't now, from what I understand
of the issue it's not a deal breaker for me, what I am struggling with
is that I cannot set the keyboard in XFCE to dvorak, as the layout tab
is missing and the keyboard icon in the settings window has no icon. I
imagined this was at first just requiring the correct language pack
but having installed the GB language pack the missing tab does not
appear. Additionally I recompiled xfce4-settings with all options
enabled to no avail.

Does anyone know what may be causing this issue?

Many thanks,
Neil
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RE: Problems with keyboard on the loader menu

2011-12-08 Thread Patrick Mahan
-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Airton Arantes
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:46 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Problems with keyboard on the loader menu

I'm having troubles with my keyboard when the bootstrapping reach the
loader menu. My Keyboard simply doesn't works, but before and after the
loader menu my keyboard works very well. I have seen BIOS settings like USB
keyboard and nothing is helping. I didn't no one kernel tuning, I'm using
GENERIC. The Server is a HP Proliant DL120 G6. Does anyone here can help me?

--
Airton Arantes Coelho Filho


I have found that I have to do the following on some of our Proliant G5's -

  # cd /
  # echo -P  boot.conf

Also, are you using the VGA or the serial console?  We enable both (our serial
consoles are connected to terminal servers for remote access and VGA is used
for the physical access).  Our keyboards are USB.

This is with FreeBSD 8.0 AMD64

Patrick

Patrick Mahan
Lead Technical Kernel Engineer
Adara Networks
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are solely the responsibility of the 
author and are not to be
construed as an official opinion of Adara Networks.
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X11 - keyboard driver unloaded, how to load it again

2011-12-07 Thread Sebastian Chmielewski
Hi,
I've an USB Mouse - Microsoft Wireless Mouse 1000, which is recognized also
as a keyboard:
ugen1.3: vendor 0x192f at usbus1 (disconnected)
ums0: at uhub2, port 2, addr 3 (disconnected)
ugen0.5: Microsoft at usbus0
ukbd0: Microsoft Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0, class 0/0, rev
2.00/6.56, addr 5 on usbus0
kbd2 at ukbd0
ums0: Microsoft Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0, class 0/0, rev
2.00/6.56, addr 5 on usbus0
ums0: 5 buttons and [XYZT] coordinates ID=26
ums0: 0 buttons and [T] coordinates ID=0
uhid0: Microsoft Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0, class 0/0, rev
2.00/6.56, addr 5 on usbus0

After disconnecting this mouse kbd module was unloaded by X:

[ 40002.703] (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0: always reports core
events
[ 40002.703] (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0: always reports core
events
[ 40002.704] (**) Option Protocol standard
[ 40002.704] (**) Option XkbRules base
[ 40002.704] (**) Option XkbModel pc105
[ 40002.704] (**) Option XkbLayout pl
[ 40002.704] (**) Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[ 40002.709] (**) Option config_info
hal:/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_45e_745_noserial_if0
[ 40002.709] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Microsoft 2.4GHz
Transceiver v8.0 (type: KEYBOARD)
[ 47161.229] (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button
[ 49888.691] (II) config/hal: removing device Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver
v8.0
[ 49888.696] (II) UnloadModule: kbd
[ 49888.696] (II) Unloading kbd

Question is: how to prevent this behavior in X and how to reload module
'kbd' under working X session (I can connect through ssh to this machine).

best regards,
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Re: X11 - keyboard driver unloaded, how to load it again

2011-12-07 Thread Zane C. B-H.
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:48:20 +0100
Sebastian Chmielewski chmi...@o2.pl wrote:

 Hi,
 I've an USB Mouse - Microsoft Wireless Mouse 1000, which is
 recognized also as a keyboard:
 ugen1.3: vendor 0x192f at usbus1 (disconnected)
 ums0: at uhub2, port 2, addr 3 (disconnected)
 ugen0.5: Microsoft at usbus0
 ukbd0: Microsoft Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0, class 0/0, rev
 2.00/6.56, addr 5 on usbus0
 kbd2 at ukbd0
 ums0: Microsoft Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0, class 0/0, rev
 2.00/6.56, addr 5 on usbus0
 ums0: 5 buttons and [XYZT] coordinates ID=26
 ums0: 0 buttons and [T] coordinates ID=0
 uhid0: Microsoft Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0, class 0/0, rev
 2.00/6.56, addr 5 on usbus0
 
 After disconnecting this mouse kbd module was unloaded by X:
 
 [ 40002.703] (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0: always reports
 core events
 [ 40002.703] (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0: always reports
 core events
 [ 40002.704] (**) Option Protocol standard
 [ 40002.704] (**) Option XkbRules base
 [ 40002.704] (**) Option XkbModel pc105
 [ 40002.704] (**) Option XkbLayout pl
 [ 40002.704] (**) Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
 [ 40002.709] (**) Option config_info
 hal:/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_45e_745_noserial_if0
 [ 40002.709] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Microsoft
 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0 (type: KEYBOARD)
 [ 47161.229] (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button
 [ 49888.691] (II) config/hal: removing device Microsoft 2.4GHz
 Transceiver v8.0
 [ 49888.696] (II) UnloadModule: kbd
 [ 49888.696] (II) Unloading kbd
 
 Question is: how to prevent this behavior in X and how to reload
 module 'kbd' under working X session (I can connect through ssh to
 this machine).

I would suggest just disabling HAL support for x11-server/xorg-server
and just statically configuring the file. The only thing you may
possibly want to do after that is make sure moused is started if you
are have any non-USB mice on that system as well.

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Problems with keyboard on the loader menu

2011-12-07 Thread Airton Arantes
I'm having troubles with my keyboard when the bootstrapping reach the
loader menu. My Keyboard simply doesn't works, but before and after the
loader menu my keyboard works very well. I have seen BIOS settings like USB
keyboard and nothing is helping. I didn't no one kernel tuning, I'm using
GENERIC. The Server is a HP Proliant DL120 G6. Does anyone here can help me?

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Re: No usb keyboard in single user mode

2011-11-21 Thread David Demelier

On 11/11/2011 12:02, Polytropon wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:41:56 +0100, David Demelier wrote:

When prompted Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:uhub3:
6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
uhub7: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
ugen0.2:BTC  at usbus0
ukbd0:BTC USB Multimedia Keyboard, class 0/0, rev 1.10/1.20, addr 2
on usbus0
kbd1 at ukbd0
uhid0:BTC USB Multimedia Keyboard, class 0/0, rev 1.10/1.20, addr 2
on usbus0
ugen1.2:vendor 0x0a12  at usbus1
ubt0:vendor 0x0a12 EDRClassone, class 224/1, rev 2.00/19.58, addr 2
on usbus1
ugen0.3:Logitech  at usbus0

So here nothing possible to do, only shutdown by power button.


After the keyboard has been detected, you should be able
to enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh.

Possible obstacle if you do NOT have device kbdmux in
your kernel configuration!




I have
heard a long time ago that legacy USB must be enabled in the BIOS and it
is in mine.


I also had a similar experience in v7 with my old system.
After waiting for the kernel to identify ukbd0, it could
be used as intended for local logins.





I remember why I added kbdmux as module. If not this option will not be 
honored:


makeoptions UKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=uk.iso

And then I don't have my uk.iso keymap on single user mode !

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No usb keyboard in single user mode

2011-11-11 Thread David Demelier

Hello,

This question may have been asked a lot of time but I have the same 
problem, my USB keyboard works well with the loader, when the system has 
successfully booted but not in the single user mode.


I don't know if this matters but when the request

When prompted Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:

comes, my keyboard didn't already show up in the kernel message, and the 
kernel still probe and attach devices after this message so the 
following output is printed :


When prompted Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:uhub3: 
6 ports with 6 removable, self powered

uhub7: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
ugen0.2: BTC at usbus0
ukbd0: BTC USB Multimedia Keyboard, class 0/0, rev 1.10/1.20, addr 2 
on usbus0

kbd1 at ukbd0
uhid0: BTC USB Multimedia Keyboard, class 0/0, rev 1.10/1.20, addr 2 
on usbus0

ugen1.2: vendor 0x0a12 at usbus1
ubt0: vendor 0x0a12 EDRClassone, class 224/1, rev 2.00/19.58, addr 2 
on usbus1

ugen0.3: Logitech at usbus0

So here nothing possible to do, only shutdown by power button. I have 
heard a long time ago that legacy USB must be enabled in the BIOS and it 
is in mine.


This is reproducible all the time on 8.2-RELEASE

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Dvorak keyboard (Spanish)

2011-08-24 Thread Alvaro Castillo
Can add Dvorak spanish variant for syscons?

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Teclado_Dvorak_Español.png

Cheers!


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Re: Dvorak keyboard (Spanish)

2011-08-24 Thread Michael Cardell Widerkrantz
Alvaro Castillo gobl...@gmail.com, 2011-08-25 02:25 (+0200):

 Can add Dvorak spanish variant for syscons?

 http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Teclado_Dvorak_Español.png

Copy 

  /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/us.dvorak.kbd

to your home directory.

Start the editor of your choice and edit the file to add the keys you
need for a Spanish keyboard.

If you're uncertain what keycode a certain key generates, use the
misc/kbdscan port [1] to find out.

When you're done editing load the new keyboard with 

  kbdcontrol -l your-spanish-dvorak.kbd

When you're satisfied you can copy the file to 

  /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/

and edit rc.conf and add 

  keymap=your-spanish-dvorak

If everything works out right you can think about using send-pr(1) or 

  http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html

and send the new keyboard layout to be included in FreeBSD.

[1] I wrote the program but I didn't submit it to ports. I would have
gone for the sysutils category, I think.

Happy hacking,
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keyboard latency from time to time

2011-07-25 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

I run a 9-CURRENT from end of October on an Acer D250 laptop; which in
general runs very fine; from time to time (say once a month) I encounter
the following situation within KDE3 or X11:

from a moment to another (can't say what action triggers this) the
keyboard stops working; there are just no keyevents delivered on short
press to any window; I've checked it with xev(1); mouse is working fine and I 
can
close the windows or the whole session of KDE, of course loosing my
connections or the content of files I'm editing in that moment;

the keyevent is only delivered when you press the key for around half
second, or so, and after this also the normal key re-iteration is
produced; its even hard to catch only one keyevent and not twice or more;
this is true for all keys, including Ctrl and Backspace, ...

after restarting X11 and KDE it is fine again;

What could this causing?

Thanks

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xpdf does not accept input from keyboard

2011-05-30 Thread Dieter BSD
FreeBSD 8.2  amd64

xpdf version 3.02

whines:

Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfActivate:            
ManagerParentActivate()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfBeginLine:           
ManagerGadgetTraverseHome()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfHelp:                        
ManagerGadgetHelp()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background.
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfActivate:    
PrimitiveParentActivate()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfHelp:                Help()'
...
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing 'KeyosfCancel:                       
MenuEscape()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfActivate:    
PrimitiveParentActivate()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfSelect:      ArmAndActivate()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: Cannot convert string -*-times-bold-i-normal--20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 
to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
-*-times-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 to type FontStruct
Warning: Color name LightYellow is not defined

And then seems to mostly work, except that it does not notice
any input from the keyboard.  Clicking on buttons with the mouse
works as expected, but attempting to paste text into the
find text box does not work.
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xpdf does not accept input from keyboard

2011-05-20 Thread Dieter BSD
FreeBSD 8.2  amd64

xpdf version 3.02

whines:

Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfActivate:            
ManagerParentActivate()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfBeginLine
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfBeginLine:           
ManagerGadgetTraverseHome()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfHelp:                        
ManagerGadgetHelp()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background.
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfActivate:    
PrimitiveParentActivate()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfHelp
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfHelp:                Help()'
...
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing 'KeyosfCancel:                       
MenuEscape()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfActivate:    
PrimitiveParentActivate()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:  osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing ':KeyosfSelect:      ArmAndActivate()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: Cannot convert string -*-times-bold-i-normal--20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 
to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
-*-times-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 to type FontStruct
Warning: Color name LightYellow is not defined

And then seems to mostly work, except that it does not notice
any input from the keyboard.  Clicking on buttons with the mouse
works as expected, but attempting to paste text into the
find text box does not work.
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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:13:48PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
 
 Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets).  I hate having to
 start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that
 would be a HAL-free alternative.

When I'm creating something from scratch that some people would consider
an ideal task for a spreadsheet, I tend to just start practicing my
complex data structure skills in Ruby.  I guess I'm weird, but I loathe
spreadsheets in general.

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-17 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:13:48 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com 
wrote:
 I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). 

So maybe gnuplot is an alternative (if we have the same
kind of diagrams in mind)?



 Gnumeric I use more
 frequently (for spreadsheets).  I hate having to start up that monolithic
 libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free 
 alternative.

Use openoffice.org-3.0.0-scalc - it's not monolithic, it's
a simple single program! :-)

I'm not sure in how far the KDE office applications are
monolithic or not, maybe if you already have KDE-based
programs on your system (or even use KDE as a desktop
environment), a look at them may be useful.


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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-17 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 17 May 2011 01:27:50 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:13:48PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
  
  Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets).  I hate having to
  start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that
  would be a HAL-free alternative.
 
 When I'm creating something from scratch that some people would consider
 an ideal task for a spreadsheet, I tend to just start practicing my
 complex data structure skills in Ruby.  I guess I'm weird, but I loathe
 spreadsheets in general.

I've done something similarly insane for a documentation
project: Here, the main document was made in LaTeX, and
there were CSV (comma seperated values) files with numerical
data and text. Those were then processed by awk scripts
that did the calculation part; their result were LaTeX
includes that were then sourced by \input. Another file
was made with definitions of macros that hold intermediate
or result values for use inside the text. Additionally,
output was given in gnuplot form and then processed by
that utility, the result was eps or png graphics also for
inclusion in the document. The whole play was controlled
by a quite simple Makefile that caused a make call to
process the files that had changed. Just imagine: Change
a value in a table, run make, and have all the results
(tables, figures, mentionings in text) change automatically.
The result was a PDF file for sending and for printing.
Of course, it is totally insane to do so. :-)


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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-17 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011:
 On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote:
 
 Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL
 dependency.  Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to
 do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece.
 
 I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams).  Gnumeric I use more
 frequently (for spreadsheets).  I hate having to start up that monolithic
 libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free 
 alternative.
 
 I just submitted ports/157096 with a patch to build gvfs without HAL 
 support:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=157096
 
 Very lightly tested, but no problems so far.
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Awesome!  I'll test it out.

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-17 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011:
 On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote:
 
 Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL
 dependency.  Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to
 do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece.
 
 I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams).  Gnumeric I use more
 frequently (for spreadsheets).  I hate having to start up that monolithic
 libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free 
 alternative.
 
 I just submitted ports/157096 with a patch to build gvfs without HAL 
 support:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=157096
 
 Very lightly tested, but no problems so far.
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Works for me!  So long, HAL!  Thanks!

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com 
wrote:
 I wish I could figure
 out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.

I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by
some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe
a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to
find out which one it is.


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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Daniel Staal

--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said:


On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:

I wish I could figure
out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.


I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by
some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe
a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to
find out which one it is.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

Sure it is:

cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal
make deinstall

It will list what ports require it.  ;)

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote:


--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said:


On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:

I wish I could figure
out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.


I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by
some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe
a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to
find out which one it is.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

Sure it is:

cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal
make deinstall

It will list what ports require it.  ;)


pkg_info -R hal\* will show the same list without actually deinstalling 
it.


But some or most of those don't directly depend on hal, they depend on 
something else that depends on hal.  It would be nice to easily find the 
root few.  xorg-server can be set to not use hal.  Then rebuild the 
keyboard, mouse, and video drivers.


One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which 
depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal.

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Daniel Staal on Monday, 16 May 2011:
 --As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said:
 
 On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden
 sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
 I wish I could figure
 out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.
 
 I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by
 some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe
 a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to
 find out which one it is.
 
 --As for the rest, it is mine.
 
 Sure it is:
 
 cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal
 make deinstall
 
 It will list what ports require it.  ;)
 
 Daniel T. Staal
 

A less destructive way to get the same info is

pkg_info -R hal-0.5.14_13

and 'portversion -v hal' can be used to get the specific version
installed.

After some more investigation, it appears that gnome-mount is the
culprit.  I'm looking into how to exclude that from the consumer apps.

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Eitan Adler
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com 
 wrote:
 I wish I could figure
 out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.

 I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by
 some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe
 a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to
 find out which one it is.

Also see ports-mgmt/pkg_tree
pkg_tree -v is quite useful.



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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011:
 On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote:
 
 --As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said:
 
 On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden
 sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
 I wish I could figure
 out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.
 
 I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by
 some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe
 a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to
 find out which one it is.
 
 --As for the rest, it is mine.
 
 Sure it is:
 
 cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal
 make deinstall
 
 It will list what ports require it.  ;)
 
 pkg_info -R hal\* will show the same list without actually deinstalling 
 it.
 
 But some or most of those don't directly depend on hal, they depend on 
 something else that depends on hal.  It would be nice to easily find the 
 root few.  xorg-server can be set to not use hal.  Then rebuild the 
 keyboard, mouse, and video drivers.
 
 One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which 
 depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal.

Yes, that seems to be the sticking point.  The only option appears to be
doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui.
Any Gnome-free alternatives out there?

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com 
wrote:
 Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011:
  One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which 
  depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal.

That's what I did assume.



 Yes, that seems to be the sticking point.  The only option appears to be
 doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui.
 Any Gnome-free alternatives out there?

Let's see: Gimp - Krita (KDE) or InkScape? Gnumeric - KOffice
(if you're already on KDE), OpenOffice, LibreOffice, StarOffice
(or add any other possible *Office to the mix). And dia... I
have to admit that I don't know what this is. :-)

Maybe, just MAYBE, the gnome-mount dependency can be installed
without requiring HAL. I don't know much about the details, but
HAL has been said to be the means for automounting local media,
and maybe is in conjuction with Samba. If you can disable such
functionality via make config for the gnome-mount port, MAYBE
there is a chance to avoid HAL in this specific case.




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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 16 May 2011, Polytropon wrote:


Maybe, just MAYBE, the gnome-mount dependency can be installed
without requiring HAL. I don't know much about the details, but
HAL has been said to be the means for automounting local media,
and maybe is in conjuction with Samba. If you can disable such
functionality via make config for the gnome-mount port, MAYBE
there is a chance to avoid HAL in this specific case.


gnome-mount is specifically for hal.  OTOH, the Linux guys have been 
working on removing hal, and gvfs has a promising --disable-hal option 
I'm testing now.

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
 
 Yes, that seems to be the sticking point.  The only option appears to be
 doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui.
 Any Gnome-free alternatives out there?

I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative
to GIMP is Cinepaint.  I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui.  It has
some, err, quirks, but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives,
because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP.  Among
the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP
often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an
image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison.  The interface is
occasionally a bit glitchy, though.

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011:
 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
  
  Yes, that seems to be the sticking point.  The only option appears to be
  doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui.
  Any Gnome-free alternatives out there?
 
 I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative
 to GIMP is Cinepaint.  I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui.  It has
 some, err, quirks, but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives,
 because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP.  Among
 the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP
 often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an
 image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison.  The interface is
 occasionally a bit glitchy, though.
 
 -- 
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Thanks, I'll take a look at it!

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011:
 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
  
  Yes, that seems to be the sticking point.  The only option appears to be
  doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui.
  Any Gnome-free alternatives out there?
 
 I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative
 to GIMP is Cinepaint.  I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui.  It has
 some, err, quirks, but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives,
 because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP.  Among
 the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP
 often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an
 image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison.  The interface is
 occasionally a bit glitchy, though.
 
 -- 
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Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL
dependency.  Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to
do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece.

I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams).  Gnumeric I use more
frequently (for spreadsheets).  I hate having to start up that monolithic
libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free alternative.

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote:


Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL
dependency.  Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to
do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece.

I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams).  Gnumeric I use more
frequently (for spreadsheets).  I hate having to start up that monolithic
libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free alternative.


I just submitted ports/157096 with a patch to build gvfs without HAL 
support:


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=157096

Very lightly tested, but no problems so far.
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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-15 Thread Polytropon
Please allow me a technical sidenote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 20:53:27 -0700 (PDT), Rob Clark rpcl...@ymail.com wrote:
 Trying the obvious first, I unplugged the keyboard and plugged it
 back in the ps2 port, and keyboard worked immediately -- this
 was repeatable.  

Do _NOT_ hotplug the PS/2 port! It's not capable of that!

I've seen myself in the past that trying so caused a mainboard
to fly into the garbage can - as hotplugging the keyboard
seemed to have damaged the PS/2 port (it didn't work anymore,
with no keyboard).

However, you actually CAN do this with USB. And I've done
hotplugging with an old AT (big 5 pin keyboard connector)
and HIL connect/disconnect at the keyboard (!) without any
problem (IBM model M, the famous one).



 Some digging around revealed that I had the following
 line in /etc/rc.conf twice:
 moused_enable=YES

This doesn't matter: /etc/rc.conf is a shell script included
in system scripts that does just contain variables that are
set. Compare the following:

x = 3;
x = 3;

What does happen? Or even this:

x = 3;
x = 4;

You can have the same line 100 times in this file, with the
result that the _last_ setting will be used. See man rc.conf
for details.



 I removed one of these (which I guess was the culprit) and left
 one as it should have been, then all was well. 

So _that_ is very strange, if one has the functionality of
/etc/rc, rc.conf, and the rc.d/ scripts in mind... having
a line twice in the config file does _not_ imply a service
is started twice.



 I have no idea why I had  moused_enable=YES  in there twice,
 whether it was from an old or recent rc.conf edit, but it
 clearly seems to have been causing the issue.

Coincidence, covariation, correlation...? :-)



 Other (maybe valuable) info:
 I am running hald in /etc/rc.conf as follows:
 dbus_enable=YES
 hald_enable=YES
 ...and these were there prior to the ports update.
 
 I figured this issue may be of some value since I did not
 do any src updates.

While moused is part of the base system (updated per source
or freebsd-update), dbus and hal are ports (job for portmaster).





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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-15 Thread Lars Eighner

On Sat, 14 May 2011, Rob Clark wrote:


After restarting X, prior to any reboot, I lost the mouse in X.
So I figured a reboot was in order.


This is almost certainly HAL.  If you do not know you need HAL for
something, mark the hal and hal-info ports FORBIDDEN (set FORBIDDEN to any
value in the Makefiles) whenever you update your ports tree.  Grep /var/db/ports
for hal and then remove the with hal option in the affected ports using make
config.  Force reinstall the affected ports.  Try to pkg_delete hal, to check
for dependencies you haven't resolved.  When all the dependencies are
removed, then remove hal.


Some digging around revealed that I had the following line in /etc/rc.conf
twice: moused_enable=YES

I removed one of these (which I guess was the culprit) and left one as it
should have been, then all was well.  Keyboard found at reboot, no further
issues -- mouse was available in X too.

I have no idea why I had  moused_enable=YES  in there twice, whether it
was from an old or recent rc.conf edit, but it clearly seems to have been
causing the issue.


This cannot be.  Once or a million times should have exactly the same
effect.  Commonly ports, people, and sysinstall just add stuff to the end of
this file.  They add everything they know they need because only the last of
similar entries has effect.  rc.conf can become unwieldly over time because
of this.  It is safe to delete duplicate entries, but that should not affect
the result.  When the same value is assigned differing values only the last
is effective.  The defaults are in /etc/defaults/rc.conf which should never
be edited.


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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-15 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Lars Eighner on Sunday, 15 May 2011:
 On Sat, 14 May 2011, Rob Clark wrote:
 
 After restarting X, prior to any reboot, I lost the mouse in X.
 So I figured a reboot was in order.
 
 This is almost certainly HAL.  If you do not know you need HAL for
 something, mark the hal and hal-info ports FORBIDDEN (set FORBIDDEN to any
 value in the Makefiles) whenever you update your ports tree.  Grep 
 /var/db/ports
 for hal and then remove the with hal option in the affected ports using make
 config.  Force reinstall the affected ports.  Try to pkg_delete hal, to 
 check
 for dependencies you haven't resolved.  When all the dependencies are
 removed, then remove hal.
 
That's some good advice.  I was able to remove hal using this approach,
but only after removing firefox, gimp, gnumeric, dia and several others.
When I reinstalled firefox, it didn't need HAL -- but when I reinstalled
gimp the first thing it did was build HAL.  I didn't find HAL in any of
gimp's options, and I have WITHOUT_HAL=YES in /etc/make.conf.  The HAL
daemon hald isn't running, and gimp seems to work.  I wish I could figure
out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.

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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-15 Thread perryh
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 Do _NOT_ hotplug the PS/2 port! It's not capable of that!

 I've seen myself in the past that trying so caused a mainboard
 to fly into the garbage can - as hotplugging the keyboard
 seemed to have damaged the PS/2 port (it didn't work anymore,
 with no keyboard).

This is conventional wisdom, and I believed it until I came across,
as an enclosure with a Belkin F8E206c PS/2 keyboard that had 3
extra keys*, specific instructions to unplug the keyboard, wait 5
seconds, and replug it to get past a BIOS incompatibility on some
Intel boards using the SE440BX-2 chipset.  (The next step was to
upgrade the BIOS, but the hotplug exercise was necessary to get
to the point of being _able_ to upgrade the BIOS.)

* Power, Sleep,  WakeUp; presumably intended for ACPI or APM.

 However, you actually CAN do this with USB.

Yes, USB was designed to be hot-pluggable.

 And I've done hotplugging with an old AT (big 5 pin keyboard
 connector) and HIL connect/disconnect at the keyboard (!) without
 any problem (IBM model M, the famous one).

The AT and PS/2 keyboard interfaces are electrically identical --
only the physical connector is different.  (I have seen, and used,
adapters to connect either type of keyboard to the other type of
system.  Such adapters have no active components, just the two
connectors wired together.)
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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-15 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of May 15, 2011 8:03:29 PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com is alleged to 
have said:



The AT and PS/2 keyboard interfaces are electrically identical --
only the physical connector is different.  (I have seen, and used,
adapters to connect either type of keyboard to the other type of
system.  Such adapters have no active components, just the two
connectors wired together.)


--As for the rest, it is mine.

The physical connector is all that actually needs to be different: Hot-swap 
interfaces make a point of connecting ground before power, usually be 
longer ground pins.  Although I don't think it matters in this case.


I could check, but I'd have to unplug my keyboard from the computer I'm on. 
;)


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Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-15 Thread perryh
Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote:

 --As of May 15, 2011 8:03:29 PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com is
 alleged to have said:

  The AT and PS/2 keyboard interfaces are electrically identical
  -- only the physical connector is different.

 --As for the rest, it is mine.

 The physical connector is all that actually needs to be different:
 Hot-swap interfaces make a point of connecting ground before power,
 usually be longer ground pins.

The PS/2 should qualify on this point, provided it is wired
_correctly_ (with the connector shell grounded both on the
motherboard and in the cable).  I'm less sure about the AT,
which used a 5-pin DIN plug that may not even have had a
shell-ground on the motherboard -- we were less concerned
about generating RFI in those days. IIRC all 5 pins were the
same length.

It's possible this particular Belkin keyboard used longer pins for
power and ground than for signal, so as to be safely hot-pluggable
even if the motherboard didn't ground the connector shell.  However,
I've since gotten by with hot-plugging a PS/2 trackball on the same
machine a couple of times, to clear lockups.
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No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-14 Thread Rob Clark
System Info: 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Aug 10 11:43:36 EDT 2010,
 and xorg-server-1.7.7_1,1 X.Org X server and related programs

Not having updated my ports in nearly 1 year, I did a sledgehammer approach with
portmaster as follows:

portmaster -D -R -f -m BATCH=yes -a

This took a few rounds.
I did this as I started having all sorts of issues after running down various 
port problems
when going through a rather long /usr/ports/UPDATING.  
Maybe not the best method, but I think everything is finally done.

After restarting X, prior to any reboot, I lost the mouse in X.
So I figured a reboot was in order.

Issue:
After a reboot I found I had no keyboard -- not even in console mode.  
Trying the obvious first, I unplugged the keyboard and plugged it
back in the ps2 port, and keyboard worked immediately -- this was repeatable.  
Reboot, same thing, no keyboard.

Some digging around revealed that I had the following line in /etc/rc.conf 
twice:
moused_enable=YES

I removed one of these (which I guess was the culprit) and left one as it 
should have been, then all was well.  Keyboard found at reboot, no further 
issues -- mouse was available in X too.

I have no idea why I had  moused_enable=YES  in there twice, whether it was 
from an old or recent rc.conf edit, but it clearly seems to have been causing 
the issue.

Other (maybe valuable) info:
I am running hald in /etc/rc.conf as follows:
dbus_enable=YES
hald_enable=YES
...and these were there prior to the ports update.

I figured this issue may be of some value since I did not do any src updates.

I'll be glad to try to help or test this further, but keep in mind I'm not a 
coder.

Thanks,
Rob



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Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-18 Thread Sascha Vieweg

On 11-04-09 17:17, Warren Block wrote:


On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Sascha Vieweg wrote:


 As a curious beginner I am running FreeBSD on VMWare Fusion
 3.1.2 on a MacBook Pro 13'' i5, and I want to do two things on
 the normal (startup) console:

 (1) use my apple keyboard, especially, scroll through console
 output


man syscons | less -p'Back Scrolling'


... Says: press the `slock' key (with some PC keyboard 
description). However, I have got a MB Pro where no such key is 
available. Thus, I may repeat my question: How can I get console 
scolling working on my MacBook Pro 13''?



 (2) have a screen resolution of at least 800x600.


vidcontrol(1) can set different modes, potentially including 
VESA_800x600. What's available depends on the video card BIOS 
and you'll probably have to build a kernel with SC_PIXEL_MODE.



 Both things seem to be no particular problem in X11, however,
 I cannot find advices for the normal console.


Unless you're trying to emulate a machine without X11 for a 
particular purpose, xterms are more versatile than consoles. 
It's probably possible to get a console-like stack of fullscreen 
xterms with one of the mouseless window managers.


Thanks, the vidcontrol tip helped a lot.

*S*

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Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-18 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 18, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Sascha Vieweg wrote:
 man syscons | less -p'Back Scrolling'
 
 ... Says: press the `slock' key (with some PC keyboard description). However, 
 I have got a MB Pro where no such key is available. Thus, I may repeat my 
 question: How can I get console scolling working on my MacBook Pro 13''?

slock is the key above the home key; on an Apple A1048 USB keyboard, that is 
labelled F15.  I don't think the 13 Macbook Pro has that key available, so you 
might have to attach an external USB keyboard.

Try dmesg | less instead, or using SSH from a handy terminal emulator with 
scrolling windows (like Terminal.app from the base MacOS X) is likely to be 
easier...

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-18 Thread David Scheidt

On Apr 18, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:

 On Apr 18, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Sascha Vieweg wrote:
 man syscons | less -p'Back Scrolling'
 
 ... Says: press the `slock' key (with some PC keyboard description). 
 However, I have got a MB Pro where no such key is available. Thus, I may 
 repeat my question: How can I get console scolling working on my MacBook Pro 
 13''?
 
 slock is the key above the home key; on an Apple A1048 USB keyboard, that is 
 labelled F15.  I don't think the 13 Macbook Pro has that key available, so 
 you might have to attach an external USB keyboard.

fn-shift-f12 should be scroll lock.  At least, it is when the hardware runs 
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Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-09 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Sascha Vieweg wrote:

As a curious beginner I am running FreeBSD on VMWare Fusion 3.1.2 on a 
MacBook Pro 13'' i5, and I want to do two things on the normal (startup) 
console:


(1) use my apple keyboard, especially, scroll through console output


man syscons | less -p'Back Scrolling'


(2) have a screen resolution of at least 800x600.


vidcontrol(1) can set different modes, potentially including 
VESA_800x600.  What's available depends on the video card BIOS and 
you'll probably have to build a kernel with SC_PIXEL_MODE.


Both things seem to be no particular problem in X11, however, I cannot find 
advices for the normal console.


Unless you're trying to emulate a machine without X11 for a particular 
purpose, xterms are more versatile than consoles.  It's probably 
possible to get a console-like stack of fullscreen xterms with one of 
the mouseless window managers.

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FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-08 Thread Sascha Vieweg
As a curious beginner I am running FreeBSD on VMWare Fusion 3.1.2 
on a MacBook Pro 13'' i5, and I want to do two things on the 
normal (startup) console:


(1) use my apple keyboard, especially, scroll through console 
output


(2) have a screen resolution of at least 800x600.

Both things seem to be no particular problem in X11, however, I 
cannot find advices for the normal console.


And: does anybody know what vertical and horizontal refresh rates 
my VMWare display have? According to the user handbook I need to 
specify this information in the X11 config file -- the current X11 
display does not look very sharp.


Thanks for help
*S*

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Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Hilton

On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sascha Vieweg wrote:

 As a curious beginner I am running FreeBSD on VMWare Fusion 3.1.2 on a 
 MacBook Pro 13'' i5, and I want to do two things on the normal (startup) 
 console:
 
 (1) use my apple keyboard, especially, scroll through console output
 
 (2) have a screen resolution of at least 800x600.
 
 Both things seem to be no particular problem in X11, however, I cannot find 
 advices for the normal console.
 
 And: does anybody know what vertical and horizontal refresh rates my VMWare 
 display have? According to the user handbook I need to specify this 
 information in the X11 config file -- the current X11 display does not look 
 very sharp.
 
 Thanks for help
 *S*


You should be able find the screen dimensions for that MacBook Pro somewhere on 
the net. If my memory is correct and it's like my 13 acrylic MacBook then it 
will be something either 1280x800 or, less likely, 1280x720. I'm really old so 
I use an config file in the standard location: /etc/X11/xorg.conf configuration 
file to control X. If I understand correctly this is not longer strictly 
necessary. You can generate a base config by running:

 # X -configure

That will write a file: xorg.conf.new into the current directory. For monitor 
setting I've never found anything on VMware Fusion, or the MacBook line that 
gives those numbers. I've been using:

Section Monitor
Identifier  Apple MacBook Pro A1286 Display
VendorName  Apple
HorizSync   27.0-86.0
VertRefresh 50.0-72.0
Modeline 1440x900 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync
Modeline 1280x800 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828
EndSection

I'm using the Vesa Driver rather than the native vmware one so I'm pretty sure 
that the MacBook is actually handling the display settings. Again, there are 
instructions on the net for hacking xorg.conf specifically for VMWare Fusion 
and or Parallels to get a crisp display on a FreeBSD VM on a Mac.

-

I haven't found a way to map a key to Scroll Lock. I would imagine that the 
syscons driver is the place to look.

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Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Hilton

On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sascha Vieweg wrote:

 As a curious beginner I am running FreeBSD on VMWare Fusion 3.1.2 on a 
 MacBook Pro 13'' i5, and I want to do two things on the normal (startup) 
 console:
 
 (1) use my apple keyboard, especially, scroll through console output
 

The Apple Keyboard should just work. The FreeBSD console has a special mode 
where you can scroll back and forth in console output after hitting Scroll 
Lock. I'm just not sure what key on the Apple Keyboard VMware maps to Scroll 
Lock.

 (2) have a screen resolution of at least 800x600.

To start, the X log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log file is a good source of 
information about what X is doing if you are trying to tune things.

Getting a good screen resolution should just be a matter of setting the refresh 
rates to match your monitor. You may be able to put any values you like in 
there since your screen and video adapter are virtual. All of this gets 
configured in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I believe it's considered gauche to hand 
configure this anymore but since many modern displays, the Apple laptops 
included, don't conform to the VESA standard modes it's helpful to be able to 
tune things by hand. The problem is compounded by the fact that again, in 
VMware you probably aren't talking to the real hardware. Any modern hardware 
should just tell the X server what it's Sync and Refresh rates are.

One final tip: Check the amount of VideoRam that VMware assigned to the virtual 
machine. I noticed that it was a little skint at 2Mb or something and I bumped 
it up to something larger than 8Mbso I could have a  1920x1080x24bpp display. 

Here's my xorg.conf file which I started on an Acrylic MacBook running 
Parallels and them moved to and retuned for a unibody 15 MacBook Pro. I'm 
following up my first post since I revisited this file this afternoon to fix a 
couple of issues that I had worked around. My box is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE built 
from sources on 4/6/2011. I'm running xorg-7.5.1 from ports



Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  extmod
Load  record
Load  dbe
Load  glx
Load  dri
Load  dri2
Load  vmmouse
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  vmmouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Apple MacBook Pro A1286 Display
VendorName  Apple
HorizSync   27.0-86.0  ## These shouldn't matter
VertRefresh 50.0-72.0  ## 

## 15 MacBook Pro
Modeline 1440x900 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync

## 13 MacBook and possibly 13 MacBook Pro
Modeline 1280x800 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  VMware Legacy Emulated SVGA II Adapter
Driver  vmwlegacy
VendorName  VMware
BoardName   Legacy Emulated SVGA II Adapter
BusID   PCI:0:15:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device VMware Legacy Emulated SVGA II Adapter
MonitorApple MacBook Pro A1286 Display


## Purge the display modes that I don't need from here.

SubSection Display
Viewport0 0
Depth   24
Modes   1440x900 ## 15 MacBook Pro
Modes   1280x800 ## 13 MacBook/MacBook Pro
EndSubSection
EndSection


-- Chris


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keyboard click driver:: User-side.

2011-03-27 Thread Gary Kline

Guys, 

I have been interested in having a FreeBSD version of the SunOS
click utility for decades.  --I first discovered that my Sun 3/80
let the keys sound a brief click sound, much softer than ye-olden
IBM Selectrics, around 1988-9.  I do need the audio feedback.

The folks in the wizard sector at Ubuntu turned me onto a python
script of about 30 pages of code called keymon.py written by a
Scott Kirkwood.  The present keymon displays certain graphics when
certain keys are hit.  Scott does think that his script can include
the click sound that I have.  My program is in C, it opens the
/dev/dsp and output a click via click.h.

I am learning python and find it pretty straightforward.  I think
using Scott's keyboard program with mine can allow me to do just
what I want.  On the user-side, have clicky keys  where necessary.  
This feedback would help folks using the severely cheep keyboards
that are on the notebook class as well as even cheaper laptops for
children whose keyboards are nothing put cardboard wrapped in
plastic.  Typing on a _real_ keyboard can be satisfactory.  But when
you try it on one of these crappy types, forget it.  Just doing
several random tests, my fingers do not connect with more than
60-65% of the keys on my EEE-900A.

bEcause my shoulder is partly out of socket i can only type so much, so
the more people who can check out keymon.py and let me know if it is
worth porting to FBSD, the better.


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terminal emulators with secure keyboard capability

2011-03-11 Thread Chad Perrin
For those who aren't aware, XTerm offers a pretty nifty security feature,
particular for cases of entering passwords.  If you hold down the Ctrl
key and the left left mouse button, a menu appears; the second item down
is Secure Keyboard.  From the XTerm manpage:

The Secure Keyboard mode is helpful when typing in passwords or other
sensitive data in an unsecure environment; see SECURITY below (but
read the limitations carefully).

I recommend anyone interested in this feature read the SECURITY section
of the xterm(1) manpage, of course.  I won't copy all the relevant text
here.  Let it suffice to say, in summary, that Secure Keyboard mode in
XTerm attempts to ensure that all keyboard input is directed only to
xterm (using the GrabKeyboard protocol request).

I have yet to notice any other terminal emulator with a similar keyboard
input protection mode.  Does anyone here know of any such terminal
emulators, aside from XTerm, that do something like this?

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Re: Keyboard repeat issues with Dell Optiplex 980s

2011-01-20 Thread Steve Polyack

On 01/19/11 09:35, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:

On 01/-10/-28163 20:59, Steve Polyack wrote:

On 1/18/2011 5:56 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:40:13PM -0500, Steve Polyack wrote:

We've recently upgraded a few desktop workstations from Dell
Optiplex 960s to Optiplex 980s. We were running FreeBSD
8.1-RELEASE. The migration was performed by simply swapping the
drives into the new systems. Immediately after switching people
over, they all began to report bizarre keyboard issues - things like
infinite key repeats (letters, numbers, enter) for keys they did
not hold down. The key repeats continue indefinitely until another
key is pressed. Occasionally, even mouse input will trigger similar
infinite keyboard input repetition. In addition to the repeat
issue, sometimes physical key-presses are not registered by FreeBSD,
leading to typos and angry developers.

We've tried doing fresh installs of FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 on two of these
systems, and the issue persists. Because of the observed behavior,
I'm thinking that this is due to new hardware in the 980s which
isn't timing or handling interrupts correctly under the FreeBSD
kernel.

Looking at a 'pciconf -lvb' from each system, I noticed that the 980
has two USB controllers which probe under ehci(4), while the 960
(which does not exhibit this problem), enumerates six uhci(4)
controllers and two ehci(4) controllers. To cut to the chase here,
the 960 users' keyboards probe under a USB1.0 uhci(4), while the
980s only have ehci(4) devices to attach to.

So, I guess what I'm asking is - has anyone else seen any keyboard
repeat or other USB craziness with ehci(4) ports or otherwise Intel
PCH controllers? Any fellow Optiplex 980 users? I'd be more than
happy to provide pciconf or other output if requested.

Try adding the following to /boot/loader.conf then reboot and see if
the excessive repeat behaviour changes:

hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=1

It would also help if you would state exactly what brand/model of
keyboard is used. Yes, believe it or not, it matters. dmesg output
would be helpful in this case.


The keyboard is also a Dell model - model KB1421, or listed as Dell
QuiteKey Keyboard under dmesg. The same keyboard does not exhibit the
strange behavior when used with the older model of tower (Optiplex 960).

I'll reboot today with the loader.conf hint you provided. I'll let you
guys know if it helps. Thanks!


I have 8.1-RELEASE running on an Optiplex 980 with no keyboard 
problems, but not with a Dell keyboard as we ordered Cherry keyboards 
with our Dells (the person evaluating the Dells thought the keyboard 
was way too light and fragile).


Since I usually have the keyboard plugged into the hub in the display, 
I just tried it directly in the (rear) usb ports with no difference. 
Trying the Fujitsu and Sun keyboards from the other machines in my 
office does not immediately lead to problems, either. (Or how much 
would I have to type to reproduce the problem?)


Maybe it is just the keyboards? Or a bios setting? (I cannot currently 
reboot to check if there are any keyboard related bios settings I 
changed.)




Based on this post, I switched my keyboard so that it runs through the 
hub in my monitor.  It seems to have fixed the problem, as I haven't 
seen the keyboard repeat in almost a day.  I'm still curious as to what 
the actual problem is.  Maybe the fact that running it through a hub 
first will help to narrow down the issue.


Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Keyboard repeat issues with Dell Optiplex 980s

2011-01-19 Thread Steve Polyack

On 01/19/11 08:48, Steve Polyack wrote:

On 1/18/2011 5:56 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:40:13PM -0500, Steve Polyack wrote:

We've recently upgraded a few desktop workstations from Dell
Optiplex 960s to Optiplex 980s.  We were running FreeBSD
8.1-RELEASE.  The migration was performed by simply swapping the
drives into the new systems.  Immediately after switching people
over, they all began to report bizarre keyboard issues - things like
infinite key repeats (letters, numbers, enter) for keys they did
not hold down.  The key repeats continue indefinitely until another
key is pressed.  Occasionally, even mouse input will trigger similar
infinite keyboard input repetition.  In addition to the repeat
issue, sometimes physical key-presses are not registered by FreeBSD,
leading to typos and angry developers.

We've tried doing fresh installs of FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 on two of these
systems, and the issue persists.  Because of the observed behavior,
I'm thinking that this is due to new hardware in the 980s which
isn't timing or handling interrupts correctly under the FreeBSD
kernel.

Looking at a 'pciconf -lvb' from each system, I noticed that the 980
has two USB controllers which probe under ehci(4), while the 960
(which does not exhibit this problem), enumerates six uhci(4)
controllers and two ehci(4) controllers.  To cut to the chase here,
the 960 users' keyboards probe under a USB1.0 uhci(4), while the
980s only have ehci(4) devices to attach to.

So, I guess what I'm asking is - has anyone else seen any keyboard
repeat or other USB craziness with ehci(4) ports or otherwise Intel
PCH controllers?Any fellow Optiplex 980 users?  I'd be more than
happy to provide pciconf or other output if requested.

Try adding the following to /boot/loader.conf then reboot and see if
the excessive repeat behaviour changes:

hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=1

It would also help if you would state exactly what brand/model of
keyboard is used.  Yes, believe it or not, it matters.  dmesg output
would be helpful in this case.

The keyboard is also a Dell model - model KB1421, or listed as Dell 
QuiteKey Keyboard under dmesg.  The same keyboard does not exhibit 
the strange behavior when used with the older model of tower (Optiplex 
960).


 I'll reboot today with the loader.conf hint you provided.  I'll let 
you guys know if it helps.  Thanks!



I forgot to attach my dmesg - here it is!
Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 #1: Mon Jan 17 12:10:53 EST 2011
root@galvatron:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750  @ 2.67GHz (2660.02-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x106e5  Family = 6  Model = 1e  Stepping = 5
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  
Features2=0x98e3fdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT
  AMD Features=0x28100800SYSCALL,NX,RDTSCP,LM
  AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
  TSC: P-state invariant
real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
avail memory = 4082315264 (3893 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: DELL   B11K   
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  2
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  4
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  6
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
lapic0: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: DELL B11Kon motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0
cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 3.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xdc80-0xdcff mem 
0xf600-0xf6ff,0xe000-0xefff,0xf000-0xf1ff irq 16 at 
device 0.0 on pci1
nvidia0: GeForce GT 330 on vgapci0
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_busmaster
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
nvidia0: [ITHREAD]
hdac0: NVidia (Unknown) High Definition Audio Controller mem 
0xf7dfc000-0xf7df irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci1
hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20100226_0142
hdac0: [ITHREAD]
pci0: base peripheral at device 8.0 (no driver attached)
pci0: base peripheral at device 8.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: base peripheral at device 8.2 (no driver attached)
pci0: base peripheral at device 16.0 (no driver attached)
pci0

Re: Keyboard repeat issues with Dell Optiplex 980s

2011-01-19 Thread Steve Polyack

On 1/18/2011 5:56 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:40:13PM -0500, Steve Polyack wrote:

We've recently upgraded a few desktop workstations from Dell
Optiplex 960s to Optiplex 980s.  We were running FreeBSD
8.1-RELEASE.  The migration was performed by simply swapping the
drives into the new systems.  Immediately after switching people
over, they all began to report bizarre keyboard issues - things like
infinite key repeats (letters, numbers, enter) for keys they did
not hold down.  The key repeats continue indefinitely until another
key is pressed.  Occasionally, even mouse input will trigger similar
infinite keyboard input repetition.  In addition to the repeat
issue, sometimes physical key-presses are not registered by FreeBSD,
leading to typos and angry developers.

We've tried doing fresh installs of FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 on two of these
systems, and the issue persists.  Because of the observed behavior,
I'm thinking that this is due to new hardware in the 980s which
isn't timing or handling interrupts correctly under the FreeBSD
kernel.

Looking at a 'pciconf -lvb' from each system, I noticed that the 980
has two USB controllers which probe under ehci(4), while the 960
(which does not exhibit this problem), enumerates six uhci(4)
controllers and two ehci(4) controllers.  To cut to the chase here,
the 960 users' keyboards probe under a USB1.0 uhci(4), while the
980s only have ehci(4) devices to attach to.

So, I guess what I'm asking is - has anyone else seen any keyboard
repeat or other USB craziness with ehci(4) ports or otherwise Intel
PCH controllers?Any fellow Optiplex 980 users?  I'd be more than
happy to provide pciconf or other output if requested.

Try adding the following to /boot/loader.conf then reboot and see if
the excessive repeat behaviour changes:

hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=1

It would also help if you would state exactly what brand/model of
keyboard is used.  Yes, believe it or not, it matters.  dmesg output
would be helpful in this case.

The keyboard is also a Dell model - model KB1421, or listed as Dell 
QuiteKey Keyboard under dmesg.  The same keyboard does not exhibit the 
strange behavior when used with the older model of tower (Optiplex 960).


 I'll reboot today with the loader.conf hint you provided.  I'll let 
you guys know if it helps.  Thanks!

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Re: Re: Keyboard repeat issues with Dell Optiplex 980s

2011-01-19 Thread Jan Henrik Sylvester

On 01/-10/-28163 20:59, Steve Polyack wrote:

On 1/18/2011 5:56 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:40:13PM -0500, Steve Polyack wrote:

We've recently upgraded a few desktop workstations from Dell
Optiplex 960s to Optiplex 980s. We were running FreeBSD
8.1-RELEASE. The migration was performed by simply swapping the
drives into the new systems. Immediately after switching people
over, they all began to report bizarre keyboard issues - things like
infinite key repeats (letters, numbers, enter) for keys they did
not hold down. The key repeats continue indefinitely until another
key is pressed. Occasionally, even mouse input will trigger similar
infinite keyboard input repetition. In addition to the repeat
issue, sometimes physical key-presses are not registered by FreeBSD,
leading to typos and angry developers.

We've tried doing fresh installs of FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 on two of these
systems, and the issue persists. Because of the observed behavior,
I'm thinking that this is due to new hardware in the 980s which
isn't timing or handling interrupts correctly under the FreeBSD
kernel.

Looking at a 'pciconf -lvb' from each system, I noticed that the 980
has two USB controllers which probe under ehci(4), while the 960
(which does not exhibit this problem), enumerates six uhci(4)
controllers and two ehci(4) controllers. To cut to the chase here,
the 960 users' keyboards probe under a USB1.0 uhci(4), while the
980s only have ehci(4) devices to attach to.

So, I guess what I'm asking is - has anyone else seen any keyboard
repeat or other USB craziness with ehci(4) ports or otherwise Intel
PCH controllers? Any fellow Optiplex 980 users? I'd be more than
happy to provide pciconf or other output if requested.

Try adding the following to /boot/loader.conf then reboot and see if
the excessive repeat behaviour changes:

hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=1

It would also help if you would state exactly what brand/model of
keyboard is used. Yes, believe it or not, it matters. dmesg output
would be helpful in this case.


The keyboard is also a Dell model - model KB1421, or listed as Dell
QuiteKey Keyboard under dmesg. The same keyboard does not exhibit the
strange behavior when used with the older model of tower (Optiplex 960).

I'll reboot today with the loader.conf hint you provided. I'll let you
guys know if it helps. Thanks!


I have 8.1-RELEASE running on an Optiplex 980 with no keyboard problems, 
but not with a Dell keyboard as we ordered Cherry keyboards with our 
Dells (the person evaluating the Dells thought the keyboard was way too 
light and fragile).


Since I usually have the keyboard plugged into the hub in the display, I 
just tried it directly in the (rear) usb ports with no difference. 
Trying the Fujitsu and Sun keyboards from the other machines in my 
office does not immediately lead to problems, either. (Or how much would 
I have to type to reproduce the problem?)


Maybe it is just the keyboards? Or a bios setting? (I cannot currently 
reboot to check if there are any keyboard related bios settings I changed.)


Cheers,
Jan Henrik
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Re: Keyboard repeat issues with Dell Optiplex 980s

2011-01-19 Thread Steve Polyack

On 01/19/11 09:35, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:

On 01/-10/-28163 20:59, Steve Polyack wrote:

On 1/18/2011 5:56 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:40:13PM -0500, Steve Polyack wrote:

We've recently upgraded a few desktop workstations from Dell
Optiplex 960s to Optiplex 980s. We were running FreeBSD
8.1-RELEASE. The migration was performed by simply swapping the
drives into the new systems. Immediately after switching people
over, they all began to report bizarre keyboard issues - things like
infinite key repeats (letters, numbers, enter) for keys they did
not hold down. The key repeats continue indefinitely until another
key is pressed. Occasionally, even mouse input will trigger similar
infinite keyboard input repetition. In addition to the repeat
issue, sometimes physical key-presses are not registered by FreeBSD,
leading to typos and angry developers.

We've tried doing fresh installs of FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 on two of these
systems, and the issue persists. Because of the observed behavior,
I'm thinking that this is due to new hardware in the 980s which
isn't timing or handling interrupts correctly under the FreeBSD
kernel.

Looking at a 'pciconf -lvb' from each system, I noticed that the 980
has two USB controllers which probe under ehci(4), while the 960
(which does not exhibit this problem), enumerates six uhci(4)
controllers and two ehci(4) controllers. To cut to the chase here,
the 960 users' keyboards probe under a USB1.0 uhci(4), while the
980s only have ehci(4) devices to attach to.

So, I guess what I'm asking is - has anyone else seen any keyboard
repeat or other USB craziness with ehci(4) ports or otherwise Intel
PCH controllers? Any fellow Optiplex 980 users? I'd be more than
happy to provide pciconf or other output if requested.

Try adding the following to /boot/loader.conf then reboot and see if
the excessive repeat behaviour changes:

hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=1

It would also help if you would state exactly what brand/model of
keyboard is used. Yes, believe it or not, it matters. dmesg output
would be helpful in this case.


The keyboard is also a Dell model - model KB1421, or listed as Dell
QuiteKey Keyboard under dmesg. The same keyboard does not exhibit the
strange behavior when used with the older model of tower (Optiplex 960).

I'll reboot today with the loader.conf hint you provided. I'll let you
guys know if it helps. Thanks!


I have 8.1-RELEASE running on an Optiplex 980 with no keyboard 
problems, but not with a Dell keyboard as we ordered Cherry keyboards 
with our Dells (the person evaluating the Dells thought the keyboard 
was way too light and fragile).


Since I usually have the keyboard plugged into the hub in the display, 
I just tried it directly in the (rear) usb ports with no difference. 
Trying the Fujitsu and Sun keyboards from the other machines in my 
office does not immediately lead to problems, either. (Or how much 
would I have to type to reproduce the problem?)


Maybe it is just the keyboards? Or a bios setting? (I cannot currently 
reboot to check if there are any keyboard related bios settings I 
changed.)




We have the keyboards plugged into the rear ports, and not via a USB 
hub.  The problem is not immediate or constant, but if you spend about 
two hours with the keyboard hooked up to the rear, you will certainly 
run into the problem (assuming its not related to these Dell keyboards...).


As for a BIOS setting, there is nothing relevant in the BIOS with 
regards to the keyboard or USB emulation that I can remember.


Thanks

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Re: Keyboard repeat issues with Dell Optiplex 980s

2011-01-19 Thread Steve Polyack

On 01/19/11 08:48, Steve Polyack wrote:

On 1/18/2011 5:56 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:40:13PM -0500, Steve Polyack wrote:

We've recently upgraded a few desktop workstations from Dell
Optiplex 960s to Optiplex 980s.  We were running FreeBSD
8.1-RELEASE.  The migration was performed by simply swapping the
drives into the new systems.  Immediately after switching people
over, they all began to report bizarre keyboard issues - things like
infinite key repeats (letters, numbers, enter) for keys they did
not hold down.  The key repeats continue indefinitely until another
key is pressed.  Occasionally, even mouse input will trigger similar
infinite keyboard input repetition.  In addition to the repeat
issue, sometimes physical key-presses are not registered by FreeBSD,
leading to typos and angry developers.

We've tried doing fresh installs of FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 on two of these
systems, and the issue persists.  Because of the observed behavior,
I'm thinking that this is due to new hardware in the 980s which
isn't timing or handling interrupts correctly under the FreeBSD
kernel.

Looking at a 'pciconf -lvb' from each system, I noticed that the 980
has two USB controllers which probe under ehci(4), while the 960
(which does not exhibit this problem), enumerates six uhci(4)
controllers and two ehci(4) controllers.  To cut to the chase here,
the 960 users' keyboards probe under a USB1.0 uhci(4), while the
980s only have ehci(4) devices to attach to.

So, I guess what I'm asking is - has anyone else seen any keyboard
repeat or other USB craziness with ehci(4) ports or otherwise Intel
PCH controllers?Any fellow Optiplex 980 users?  I'd be more than
happy to provide pciconf or other output if requested.

Try adding the following to /boot/loader.conf then reboot and see if
the excessive repeat behaviour changes:

hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=1

It would also help if you would state exactly what brand/model of
keyboard is used.  Yes, believe it or not, it matters.  dmesg output
would be helpful in this case.

The keyboard is also a Dell model - model KB1421, or listed as Dell 
QuiteKey Keyboard under dmesg.  The same keyboard does not exhibit 
the strange behavior when used with the older model of tower (Optiplex 
960).


 I'll reboot today with the loader.conf hint you provided.  I'll let 
you guys know if it helps.  Thanks!




The problem still exists with the kbdmux.0.disabled hint.  It definitely 
took effect, as there is no longer a /dev/kbdmux0, and dmesg lists the 
refusal to register the kbdmux module.  Any other ideas?  We've tried 
playing with the hw.usb.ehci.lostinrbug and hw.usb.ehci.no_hs sysctls, 
but they don't make a difference either.


Looking at the ehci(4) man page, this sticks out at me:
BUGS
 The driver is not finished and is quite buggy.

 There is currently no support for isochronous transfers.



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Re: Keyboard repeat issues with Dell Optiplex 980s

2011-01-19 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 15:51:41 Steve Polyack wrote:
 On 01/19/11 08:48, Steve Polyack wrote:
  On 1/18/2011 5:56 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:40:13PM -0500, Steve Polyack wrote:
  We've recently upgraded a few desktop workstations from Dell
  Optiplex 960s to Optiplex 980s.  We were running FreeBSD
  8.1-RELEASE.  The migration was performed by simply swapping the
  drives into the new systems.  Immediately after switching people
  over, they all began to report bizarre keyboard issues - things like
  infinite key repeats (letters, numbers, enter) for keys they did
  not hold down.  The key repeats continue indefinitely until another
  key is pressed.  Occasionally, even mouse input will trigger similar
  infinite keyboard input repetition.  In addition to the repeat
  issue, sometimes physical key-presses are not registered by FreeBSD,
  leading to typos and angry developers.
  
  We've tried doing fresh installs of FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 on two of these
  systems, and the issue persists.  Because of the observed behavior,
  I'm thinking that this is due to new hardware in the 980s which
  isn't timing or handling interrupts correctly under the FreeBSD
  kernel.
  
  Looking at a 'pciconf -lvb' from each system, I noticed that the 980
  has two USB controllers which probe under ehci(4), while the 960
  (which does not exhibit this problem), enumerates six uhci(4)
  controllers and two ehci(4) controllers.  To cut to the chase here,
  the 960 users' keyboards probe under a USB1.0 uhci(4), while the
  980s only have ehci(4) devices to attach to.
  
  So, I guess what I'm asking is - has anyone else seen any keyboard
  repeat or other USB craziness with ehci(4) ports or otherwise Intel
  PCH controllers?Any fellow Optiplex 980 users?  I'd be more than
  happy to provide pciconf or other output if requested.
  
  Try adding the following to /boot/loader.conf then reboot and see if
  the excessive repeat behaviour changes:
  
  hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=1
  
  It would also help if you would state exactly what brand/model of
  keyboard is used.  Yes, believe it or not, it matters.  dmesg output
  would be helpful in this case.
  
  The keyboard is also a Dell model - model KB1421, or listed as Dell
  QuiteKey Keyboard under dmesg.  The same keyboard does not exhibit
  the strange behavior when used with the older model of tower (Optiplex
  960).
  
   I'll reboot today with the loader.conf hint you provided.  I'll let
  
  you guys know if it helps.  Thanks!
 
 The problem still exists with the kbdmux.0.disabled hint.  It definitely
 took effect, as there is no longer a /dev/kbdmux0, and dmesg lists the
 refusal to register the kbdmux module.  Any other ideas?  We've tried
 playing with the hw.usb.ehci.lostinrbug and hw.usb.ehci.no_hs sysctls,
 but they don't make a difference either.
 
 Looking at the ehci(4) man page, this sticks out at me:
 BUGS
   The driver is not finished and is quite buggy.
 
   There is currently no support for isochronous transfers.

For FreeBSD 8+ this is not true. Probably the manpage has not been updated. 
Hence you are seeing a different number of UHCI controllers, this looks like 
an ACPI problem. USB keyboards usually require a UHCI to enumerate. The EHCI 
can only enumerate High Speed devices.

--HPS
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Keyboard repeat issues with Dell Optiplex 980s

2011-01-18 Thread Steve Polyack


We've recently upgraded a few desktop workstations from Dell Optiplex 
960s to Optiplex 980s.  We were running FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE.  The 
migration was performed by simply swapping the drives into the new 
systems.  Immediately after switching people over, they all began to 
report bizarre keyboard issues - things like infinite key repeats 
(letters, numbers, enter) for keys they did not hold down.  The key 
repeats continue indefinitely until another key is pressed.  
Occasionally, even mouse input will trigger similar infinite keyboard 
input repetition.  In addition to the repeat issue, sometimes physical 
key-presses are not registered by FreeBSD, leading to typos and angry 
developers.


We've tried doing fresh installs of FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 on two of these 
systems, and the issue persists.  Because of the observed behavior, I'm 
thinking that this is due to new hardware in the 980s which isn't timing 
or handling interrupts correctly under the FreeBSD kernel.


Looking at a 'pciconf -lvb' from each system, I noticed that the 980 has 
two USB controllers which probe under ehci(4), while the 960 (which does 
not exhibit this problem), enumerates six uhci(4) controllers and two 
ehci(4) controllers.  To cut to the chase here, the 960 users' keyboards 
probe under a USB1.0 uhci(4), while the 980s only have ehci(4) devices 
to attach to.


So, I guess what I'm asking is - has anyone else seen any keyboard 
repeat or other USB craziness with ehci(4) ports or otherwise Intel PCH 
controllers?Any fellow Optiplex 980 users?  I'd be more than happy 
to provide pciconf or other output if requested.


Thanks,
Steve Polyack
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Re: Keyboard repeat issues with Dell Optiplex 980s

2011-01-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:40:13PM -0500, Steve Polyack wrote:
 
 We've recently upgraded a few desktop workstations from Dell
 Optiplex 960s to Optiplex 980s.  We were running FreeBSD
 8.1-RELEASE.  The migration was performed by simply swapping the
 drives into the new systems.  Immediately after switching people
 over, they all began to report bizarre keyboard issues - things like
 infinite key repeats (letters, numbers, enter) for keys they did
 not hold down.  The key repeats continue indefinitely until another
 key is pressed.  Occasionally, even mouse input will trigger similar
 infinite keyboard input repetition.  In addition to the repeat
 issue, sometimes physical key-presses are not registered by FreeBSD,
 leading to typos and angry developers.
 
 We've tried doing fresh installs of FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 on two of these
 systems, and the issue persists.  Because of the observed behavior,
 I'm thinking that this is due to new hardware in the 980s which
 isn't timing or handling interrupts correctly under the FreeBSD
 kernel.
 
 Looking at a 'pciconf -lvb' from each system, I noticed that the 980
 has two USB controllers which probe under ehci(4), while the 960
 (which does not exhibit this problem), enumerates six uhci(4)
 controllers and two ehci(4) controllers.  To cut to the chase here,
 the 960 users' keyboards probe under a USB1.0 uhci(4), while the
 980s only have ehci(4) devices to attach to.
 
 So, I guess what I'm asking is - has anyone else seen any keyboard
 repeat or other USB craziness with ehci(4) ports or otherwise Intel
 PCH controllers?Any fellow Optiplex 980 users?  I'd be more than
 happy to provide pciconf or other output if requested.

Try adding the following to /boot/loader.conf then reboot and see if
the excessive repeat behaviour changes:

hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=1

It would also help if you would state exactly what brand/model of
keyboard is used.  Yes, believe it or not, it matters.  dmesg output
would be helpful in this case.

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How to fix the keyboard dead question ?

2010-09-16 Thread zaxis

Sometimes after booting freebsd and reaching the slim login screen, i cannot
input anything: the keyboard seems to be dead.  Then i have to reboot
freebsd and the problem disappear !

uname -a
FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #1: Wed Sep  8
09:07:54 CST 2010
r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386

dmesg -a | grep -i fail
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, 3fde (3) failed

dmesg -a | grep -i warn
ACPI Warning: Optional field Pm2ControlBlock has zero address or length: 0x 
 
0   0/0x1 (20100331/tbfadt-655)

Sincerely!

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Re: How to fix the keyboard dead question ?

2010-09-16 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:51:31 -0700 (PDT), zaxis z_a...@163.com wrote:
 
 Sometimes after booting freebsd and reaching the slim login screen, i cannot
 input anything: the keyboard seems to be dead.  Then i have to reboot
 freebsd and the problem disappear !

Is this an AT or USB keyboard?

If it is a USB keyboard: I have similar problems on FreeBSD 7
(didn't have them before on 5) where the activation of the
USB keyboard sometimes takes up to 2 minutes after system boot
is complete. Detaching and re-attaching the USB plug sometimes
helps.



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Re: How to fix the keyboard dead question ?

2010-09-16 Thread Ryan Coleman
I've had similar results on my USB to PS/2 keyboard adapter. If I reconnect the 
bridge device (not necc. have the KB attached to it) it will work.
On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Polytropon wrote:

 On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:51:31 -0700 (PDT), zaxis z_a...@163.com wrote:
 
 Sometimes after booting freebsd and reaching the slim login screen, i cannot
 input anything: the keyboard seems to be dead.  Then i have to reboot
 freebsd and the problem disappear !
 
 Is this an AT or USB keyboard?
 
 If it is a USB keyboard: I have similar problems on FreeBSD 7
 (didn't have them before on 5) where the activation of the
 USB keyboard sometimes takes up to 2 minutes after system boot
 is complete. Detaching and re-attaching the USB plug sometimes
 helps.
 
 
 
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Re: Cleaned out /usr/local when reinstalling ports, now keyboard in X is not localized

2010-08-31 Thread Leslie Jensen



On 2010-08-30 21:02, Bernt Hansson wrote:

Put this in your .xinitrc
setxkbmap se



Thanks for the suggestion!

I wonder, is this metod the correct way. According to the handbook one 
should use the


/usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi

file.

/Leslie
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Re: Cleaned out /usr/local when reinstalling ports, now keyboard in X is not localized

2010-08-31 Thread Bernt Hansson

2010-08-31 10:29, Leslie Jensen skrev:



On 2010-08-30 21:02, Bernt Hansson wrote:

Put this in your .xinitrc
setxkbmap se



Thanks for the suggestion!

I wonder, is this metod the correct way.


I think so, as long X is concerned.

 According to the handbook one

should use the

/usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi file.


There are no *.fdi files on this machine, and I don't
feel like fiddling with hal.
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Re: Cleaned out /usr/local when reinstalling ports, now keyboard in X is not localized

2010-08-31 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:38:57 +0200
Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net articulated:

 2010-08-31 10:29, Leslie Jensen skrev:
 
 
  On 2010-08-30 21:02, Bernt Hansson wrote:
  Put this in your .xinitrc
  setxkbmap se
 
 
  Thanks for the suggestion!
 
  I wonder, is this metod the correct way.
 
 I think so, as long X is concerned.
 
   According to the handbook one
  should use the
 
  /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi file.
 
 There are no *.fdi files on this machine, and I don't
 feel like fiddling with hal.

No one in their right mind likes messing with hal. 

HAL is now (at least on other OSs) deprecated, since it has become a
large monolithic unmaintainable mess, and also duplicates a lot of
functionality which are nowadays provided by udev and the kernel itself.

Hopefully, FreeBSD will soon free itself from its clutches.

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Re: Cleaned out /usr/local when reinstalling ports, now keyboard in X is not localized

2010-08-31 Thread Leslie Jensen



On 2010-08-31 12:38, Bernt Hansson wrote:

2010-08-31 10:29, Leslie Jensen skrev:



On 2010-08-30 21:02, Bernt Hansson wrote:

Put this in your .xinitrc
setxkbmap se



Thanks for the suggestion!

I wonder, is this metod the correct way.


I think so, as long X is concerned.

  According to the handbook one

should use the

/usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi file.


There are no *.fdi files on this machine, and I don't
feel like fiddling with hal.



OK, thank you.

/Leslie
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Cleaned out /usr/local when reinstalling ports, now keyboard in X is not localized

2010-08-30 Thread Leslie Jensen

Hello

After upgrading to xorg-7.5 on 8.1-RELEASE

I've got a problem with X not reading my

 /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi

---

?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
deviceinfo version=0.2
  device
match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbOptions 
type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

/merge
  merge key=input.x11_options.XkbModel type=stringlogiitc/merge
  merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringse/merge
/match
  /device
/deviceinfo



So I get a US keyboard layout instead of SE.


My /var/log/Xorg.0.log



(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard
(II) LoadModule: kbd
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.4.0
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0
(**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Option Protocol standard
(**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard
(**) Option XkbRules base
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: base
(**) Option XkbModel pc105
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: pc105
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: us
(**) Option CustomKeycodes off
(**) AT Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device AT Keyboard (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button



I've checked permissions and file content from a machine running 
8.0-RELEASE with xorg-7.4_3 and they are the same.



Any suggestions on how to fix this?


Thanks


/Leslie

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Re: Cleaned out /usr/local when reinstalling ports, now keyboard in X is not localized

2010-08-30 Thread Bernt Hansson

Put this in your .xinitrc
setxkbmap se


2010-08-30 15:06, Leslie Jensen skrev:

Hello

After upgrading to xorg-7.5 on 8.1-RELEASE

I've got a problem with X not reading my

/usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi

---

?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
deviceinfo version=0.2
device
match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbOptions
type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
/merge
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbModel type=stringlogiitc/merge
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringse/merge
/match
/device
/deviceinfo



So I get a US keyboard layout instead of SE.


My /var/log/Xorg.0.log



(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard
(II) LoadModule: kbd
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.4.0
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0
(**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Option Protocol standard
(**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard
(**) Option XkbRules base
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: base
(**) Option XkbModel pc105
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: pc105
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: us
(**) Option CustomKeycodes off
(**) AT Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device AT Keyboard (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button



I've checked permissions and file content from a machine running
8.0-RELEASE with xorg-7.4_3 and they are the same.


Any suggestions on how to fix this?


Thanks


/Leslie

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FreeBSD/amd: boot/loader ignores usb-keyboard

2010-08-17 Thread Dr. A. Haakh

Hello,

when i switched to an usb-keyboard some month ago,  i realized, that 
boot/loader ignores input from this device. The bootmanager accepts 
input, loader not.


Is there any configuration-parameter to fix this?

Andreas
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Re: Spanish keyboard in X

2010-07-23 Thread Antonio Vieiro

Hi,

This is working for me correctly. In gnome select 
Sistema/Preferencias/Teclado (System/preferences/Keyboard) and select 
the appropriate layout.


Also on my .bash_profile I've included a:

export LANG=es_ES.ISO8859-15

Cheers,
Antonio

On 18/07/2010 18:49, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:

Hi,I'm trying to configure spanish keyboard in FreeBsd 8.1-RC2 with no luck, 
I've read many documents on the web, but they seem to be rather old, or assume 
that the user has Gnome or KDE installed, I use Awesome WM.

Any hint?

Leonardo M. Ramé
http://leonardorame.blogspot.com



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Re: Spanish keyboard in X

2010-07-19 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, July 18, 2010 a las 11:32:05AM -0700, Leonardo M. Ramé escribió:

 Yes,I have modified xorg.conf the same way as you mentioned.
 
 Anyway, now the problem is solved by adding setxkbmap es  to my .xsession
 
 Thanks.
 
 Leonardo M. Ramé
 http://leonardorame.blogspot.com

A bit related to the question: If you need Spanish Tilde chars but you
have only an English or German keyboard (like I have), you can make use
of the so called WindowsKey in X11 and define the keys like shown below.
After this, for example, the combination WindowsKey+a gives á (a-tilde).

# $Id: xmod.sh,v 1.1 2008/08/25 10:04:41 guru Exp $
#
# para español:
#
xmodmap -e keycode 0x73 =  Mode_switch
xmodmap -e keycode 0x39 =  n N ntilde Ntilde
xmodmap -e keycode 0x1a =  e E eacute Eacute
xmodmap -e keycode 0x26 =  a A aacute Aacute
xmodmap -e keycode 0x1f =  i I iacute Iacute
xmodmap -e keycode 0x1e =  u U uacute Uacute
xmodmap -e keycode 0x20 =  o O oacute Oacute
xmodmap -e keycode 0x14 =  questiondown question backslash ssharp
xmodmap -e keycode 0x0a =  1 exclam exclamdown onesuperior
#
xmodmap -e keycode 94 = less greater guillemotleft guillemotright bar brokenbar

Espero que te ayude. Saludos

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Re: Spanish keyboard in X

2010-07-19 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:09:00 +0200, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
 El día Sunday, July 18, 2010 a las 11:32:05AM -0700, Leonardo M. Ramé 
 escribió:
 
  Yes,I have modified xorg.conf the same way as you mentioned.
  
  Anyway, now the problem is solved by adding setxkbmap es  to my .xsession
  
  Thanks.
  
  Leonardo M. Ramé
  http://leonardorame.blogspot.com
 
 A bit related to the question: If you need Spanish Tilde chars but you
 have only an English or German keyboard (like I have), you can make use
 of the so called WindowsKey in X11 and define the keys like shown below.

Just for completeness, there is another option I'd like to add:

You define a key to be the multi key, usually labelled Compose,
at least on the Sun keyboard I use; in ~/.xmodmaprc:

add mod4 = Multi_key
keycode 117 = Multi_key

Then you can compose any characters you need that aren't even part of
your localized keymap, e. g. Compose char1 char2 (as a sequence, not
a combination) will give you the combination of both characters, at
least if there's a symbol matching in the character table. Examples:

Compose a a - å (svedish a-circle)
Compose s s - ß (Eszett)
Compose o / - ø (danish o-stroke)
Compose U  - Ü (german U Umlaut, capital)
Compose L / - Ł (polish L-stroke, capital)
Compose k k - ĸ (greek kappa, not sure if it really is)
Compose n ' - ń (n with accent grave)

This can also be used to generate tilde characters, as well as the
weirdest use of accents. :-)



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Spanish keyboard in X

2010-07-18 Thread Leonardo M . Ramé
Hi,I'm trying to configure spanish keyboard in FreeBsd 8.1-RC2 with no luck, 
I've read many documents on the web, but they seem to be rather old, or assume 
that the user has Gnome or KDE installed, I use Awesome WM.

Any hint?

Leonardo M. Ramé
http://leonardorame.blogspot.com


  
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Re: Spanish keyboard in X

2010-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:49:16 -0700 (PDT), Leonardo M. Ramé 
martinr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,I'm trying to configure spanish keyboard in FreeBsd 8.1-RC2
 with no luck, I've read many documents on the web, but they seem
 to be rather old, or assume that the user has Gnome or KDE
 installed, I use Awesome WM.
 
 Any hint?

What's wrong about the old-fashioned way of using xorg.conf as
a central means of X configuration? :-)

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout de
Option  AutoRepeat250 30
EndSection

Of course, you have to set the correct codes for spanish layout
(setting XkbLayout), it should be es.


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Re: Spanish keyboard in X

2010-07-18 Thread Leonardo M . Ramé
Yes,I have modified xorg.conf the same way as you mentioned.

Anyway, now the problem is solved by adding setxkbmap es  to my .xsession

Thanks.

Leonardo M. Ramé
http://leonardorame.blogspot.com


--- On Sun, 7/18/10, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
 Subject: Re: Spanish keyboard in X
 To: Leonardo M. Ramé martinr...@yahoo.com
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 2:36 PM
 On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:49:16 -0700
 (PDT), Leonardo M. Ramé martinr...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Hi,I'm trying to configure spanish keyboard in FreeBsd
 8.1-RC2
  with no luck, I've read many documents on the web, but
 they seem
  to be rather old, or assume that the user has Gnome or
 KDE
  installed, I use Awesome WM.
  
  Any hint?
 
 What's wrong about the old-fashioned way of using
 xorg.conf as
 a central means of X configuration? :-)
 
 Section InputDevice
         Identifier     
 Keyboard0
         Driver     
     kbd
         Option     
     XkbModel         
     pc105
         Option     
     XkbLayout         
    de
         Option     
     AutoRepeat         
   250 30
 EndSection
 
 Of course, you have to set the correct codes for spanish
 layout
 (setting XkbLayout), it should be es.
 
 
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Re: USB keyboard: mode switch / numlock freezes

2010-04-27 Thread Anselm Strauss
On 04/27/10 07:06, Polytropon wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:33:28 +0200, Anselm Strauss amsiba...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Could it be a numlock issue? Any idea how to address this?
 
 A good tool for diagnostics always is the xev program. See
 if something like
 
 KeyPress event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1,
 root 0x73, subw 0x0, time 1034406899, (-570,493), root:(12,632),
 state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
 XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
 XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
 XFilterEvent returns: False
 
 KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1,
 root 0x73, subw 0x0, time 1034406949, (-570,493), root:(12,632),
 state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
 XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
 XFilterEvent returns: False
 
 comes out when pressing the Num key.
 
 You can always remap the Num Lock functionality onto another
 key that doesn't fail after the 4th use - see xmodmap.
 
 

I tried xev, but there is no event when I press the mode switch. I
mapped numlock to scrolllcok for testing. I then see the numlock event
but the mode on the keyboard block does not change. So it doesn't seem
to be implemented over the numlock functionality.

Is there another way to debug the USB device directly?

Anselm
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Re: USB keyboard: mode switch / numlock freezes

2010-04-26 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:33:28 +0200, Anselm Strauss amsiba...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could it be a numlock issue? Any idea how to address this?

A good tool for diagnostics always is the xev program. See
if something like

KeyPress event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1,
root 0x73, subw 0x0, time 1034406899, (-570,493), root:(12,632),
state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1,
root 0x73, subw 0x0, time 1034406949, (-570,493), root:(12,632),
state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False

comes out when pressing the Num key.

You can always remap the Num Lock functionality onto another
key that doesn't fail after the 4th use - see xmodmap.


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USB keyboard: mode switch / numlock freezes

2010-04-25 Thread Anselm Strauss
Hi,

I have a Roccat Arvo keyboard that has a number block with integrated
positioning keys (arrows, del, end, ...), but no extra keys for them. There
is a mode switch button that switches between the two layouts, like the
numlock key, but I'm not sure if this really is numlock. For some reason the
switch stops to work after exactly 4 presses. This only happens during boot,
or when the FreeBSD kernel is loaded. It does not happen when I boot into
Windows or Linux. I also tried other computers, getting the same result.

Could it be a numlock issue? Any idea how to address this?

Thanks,
Anselm
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Configure X: multiple keyboard layouts ?

2010-03-07 Thread Niki Kovacs

Hi,

I'd like to configure X for multiple keyboard layouts, e. g.:

- french
- swiss french
- german

On my Linux box (running CentOS 5.4 and a dated version of X.org), the 
configuration for this looks like this :


Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Keyboard0
  Driver  kbd
  Option  XkbModel pc105
  Option  XkbLayout fr,ch,de
  Option  XkbVariant ,fr,
  Option  XkbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle
EndSection

This stanza enables me to toggle between different keyboard layouts, 
using the [Alt]+[RightShift] key combination. You might wonder about the 
XkbVariant option: the swiss keyboard layout has two variants: fr and 
de. This is to indicate the swiss roman layout.


Now is there any way I could achieve a similar thing with the more 
recent X.org shipping with FreeBSD 8.0 ?


Any suggestions ?

Niki Kovacs
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Re: Configure X: multiple keyboard layouts ?

2010-03-07 Thread Frank Shute
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:09:16AM +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'd like to configure X for multiple keyboard layouts, e. g.:
 
 - french
 - swiss french
 - german
 
 On my Linux box (running CentOS 5.4 and a dated version of X.org), the 
 configuration for this looks like this :
 
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Keyboard0
   Driver  kbd
   Option  XkbModel pc105
   Option  XkbLayout fr,ch,de
   Option  XkbVariant ,fr,
   Option  XkbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle
 EndSection
 
 This stanza enables me to toggle between different keyboard layouts, 
 using the [Alt]+[RightShift] key combination. You might wonder about the 
 XkbVariant option: the swiss keyboard layout has two variants: fr and 
 de. This is to indicate the swiss roman layout.
 
 Now is there any way I could achieve a similar thing with the more 
 recent X.org shipping with FreeBSD 8.0 ?
 
 Any suggestions ?

Hi Niki,

Welcome to FreeBSD!

There is a way to achieve similar results with recent X.org.

X nowadays can get by without an xorg.conf and by default it uses hald
and dbus to configure keyboard, mouse etc.

It's documented how you can create an xorg.conf and use that for
device config rather than hald:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

You basically create an xorg.conf and then add:

Option AutoAddDevices false

to the ServerLayout section and then your keyboard config placed in
your xorg.conf will be picked up.

You will also need a section for the mouse along the lines of:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
#   Option  Emulate3Buttons false
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7# For scroll wheel
EndSection

It's parameters are dependent on your type of mouse.

With that and xorg.conf placed under /etc/X11/ you should be good to
go.

But I'm quite sure you know that xorg.conf can be a fiddle ;)

If you get stuck, post your xorg.conf

BTW, if you haven't read it already the manpage for moused(8) is quite
a revelation. The FreeBSD mouse driver puts the Linux mouse driver to
shame!

Regards,

-- 

 Frank

 Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html


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