Re: minimum requirements
On 10/9/06, Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/09/06 12:00, free bsd wrote: Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question. In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately. What I am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram? The machine has a 232GB hard drive but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being totally allocated to FreeBSD. Well, as everyone has stated... It depends on what you are doing with the machine. I have a 512MB USB device running 5.3-RELEASE, Xorg, Fluxbox, nessus, nmap, firefox, and a few other tidbits (no ports tree). Its darn slow off USB, but it works. So yeah, 4GB is sufficient... for some amount of functionality. If *I* wanted to use a machine, say for a desktop, I'd want no less than 20GB. I have a 20GB disk for a machine, yet I ran out of space while trying to set it up the way I wanted. I had most things setup, then tried to compile OO. I fell back to the package though. Either way, everyones point is... It depends. But I think most would say to have a truly useful Desktop, 4GB is a bit slim. My vote... 20GB+ HTH. However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features? And if a larger drive how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features without limiting myself to a bare bones setup? Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work how limited would the install/capabilities/features be? I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility regarding type of installation options. -art I didn't see it mentioned (may have missed it), I just wanted to point out one thing. There is a bit of a speed difference between a 4gig drive and a 200gig drive. If you are using a 3gig CPU, it would be a shame to have such a huge bottleneck with the hard drive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
minimum requirements
Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question. In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately. What I am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram? The machine has a 232GB hard drive but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being totally allocated to FreeBSD. However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features? And if a larger drive how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features without limiting myself to a bare bones setup? Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work how limited would the install/capabilities/features be? I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility regarding type of installation options. -art - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minimum requirements
On 10/9/06, free bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question. In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately. What I am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram? The machine has a 232GB hard drive but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being totally allocated to FreeBSD. You certainly can do this. I used to have freebsd installed on a 4 GB drive myself (6.0 and 6.1) Keep in mind thought, that you probably won't be able to have a whole desktop environment with all the ammenities. You could, however, install the base system on the smaller drive, then mount the larger drive and install stuff on there. However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features? And if a larger drive how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features without limiting myself to a bare bones setup? Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work how limited would the install/capabilities/features be? If you don't need a GUI or anything like that, you could probably do lots with this drive, without touching the larger drive. I ran my 4 GB machine as a router/firewall/apache/mysql server for months. Keep in mind too, that my machine's specs were considerably below yours. It all really depends on what you want to do with the machine. If you want KDE, good luck, it's not going to happen. If you want a router or something, it'll be easy. I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility regarding type of installation options. -art - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'm nerdy in the extreme and whiter than sour cream ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minimum requirements
--- free bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question. In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately. What I am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram? The machine has a 232GB hard drive but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being totally allocated to FreeBSD. However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features? And if a larger drive how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features without limiting myself to a bare bones setup? Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work how limited would the install/capabilities/features be? I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility regarding type of installation options. -art 4gb would get you a basic setup system with X. As long as you use packages for your installation. Building ports from source will likely run you out of space during port builds especially for the larger ports. you should be able to get the system, X, KDE OR Gnome, running and a few other ports here and there. You would be better off installing something like Icewm or XFCE as these would get you nice looking window managers without all the bloat and would be able to run the apps from the bigger desktops. once the dependant libraries are installed. the issue you may run into is in swap. With 1 gig or RAM you will only need a small amount of swap, maybe as little as 64Meg. This would only be an issue if you plan on getting core dumps from the kernel, because you will not have space. This is why typically it is recommended to have swap equal to Ram plus 1 meg. And this is for a single partition of swap. the core won't split over two swaps. All in all more hard drive space is probably a good idea just for /usr and or /home space depending on what your doing. It would be a must if you want to build things from source. These base system itself will be about 500 megs, ports will add on 300 megs or so, then its the ports you choose. 4 gig would work ok, but would get frustrating quick. I would go with at least 8 gig for a loaded system which for me is about 4.5 gigs total and like 300 packages installed mostly science packages and the dependancies of gnome2. If you want to build things I run with 10-15g slices for more space. and outside of building that is more then I generally need. Although for fairness I usually have multi-boot modes and share a data drive amongst the OSs. a list of the ports you want to use would help determine space because some use a ton, and some use very little. -brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minimum requirements
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:00:11AM -0700, free bsd wrote: Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question. In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately. What I am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram? The machine has a 232GB hard drive but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being totally allocated to FreeBSD. However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features? And if a larger drive how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features without limiting myself to a bare bones setup? Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work how limited would the install/capabilities/features be? I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility regarding type of installation options. I think you probably have your answer from other responses - that it depends on what you want to do with it. If it is just to have a FreeBSD running to look it over, 4 GB is plenty of space. You could put on FreeBSD and Xwindows and use a very basic windows manager like AfterStep or some other very lean ones. You could probably even get Apache on it and maybe a browser. But those would have to install from packages and not a build from ports.You would have trouble getting OpenOffice on it, but maybe from the prebuilt package that is available from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.0-release/editors/ Grab the latest one. But, you would not be able to build any of these with that little space. Openoffice seems to take over 10 GB to do its build, for example. Also, you might get something like MySQL running, but would soon run out of space for the database. You could easily build the basic system, then put a big file system on another disk and move some of the stuff that can grow big over there such as /usr/local, /usr/ports, /var/spool, /var/db, /var/log and make symlinks to them as you need. Also, you can put your web site over in the big disk, just by changing a line in httpd.conf. If you build on the small disk, I would still suggest making root its own partition, as well as a reasonable sized separate /tmp and, of course, some swap space. Although if you are just experimenting, you could just make a swap and /tmp and leave everything else in root it is better to keep root small in a real production system - in case a recovery is needed. jerry -art ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minimum requirements
On 10/09/06 12:00, free bsd wrote: Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question. In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately. What I am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram? The machine has a 232GB hard drive but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being totally allocated to FreeBSD. Well, as everyone has stated... It depends on what you are doing with the machine. I have a 512MB USB device running 5.3-RELEASE, Xorg, Fluxbox, nessus, nmap, firefox, and a few other tidbits (no ports tree). Its darn slow off USB, but it works. So yeah, 4GB is sufficient... for some amount of functionality. If *I* wanted to use a machine, say for a desktop, I'd want no less than 20GB. I have a 20GB disk for a machine, yet I ran out of space while trying to set it up the way I wanted. I had most things setup, then tried to compile OO. I fell back to the package though. Either way, everyones point is... It depends. But I think most would say to have a truly useful Desktop, 4GB is a bit slim. My vote... 20GB+ HTH. However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features? And if a larger drive how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features without limiting myself to a bare bones setup? Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work how limited would the install/capabilities/features be? I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility regarding type of installation options. -art - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
minimum requirements
what are the recommended minimum hw requirements for version 6.1? e.g. diskspace, memory, etc thank you. -art - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minimum requirements
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 06:13:16PM -0700, Art Mattox wrote: what are the recommended minimum hw requirements for version 6.1? e.g. diskspace, memory, etc I don't know what the current absolute minimum to run values would be. So recommended minimums would be somewhat subjective and depend on the intended use of the machine and the number of ports and user accounts you might put on it. For a personal work station with only a few ports, but not a stripped DNS server or something, I would recommend at least 512 MB memory and 18 GB disk and 1.5 GHz CPU with at least 400 MHz frontside bus. More and faster is nice. A stripped router or DNS server might get by with 1/4 the memory and 1 GB disk and a much slower CPU. A loaded desktop that included web server and web based utilities such as database services, Email and list services, etc might do better to start with 1 GB memory and 72 GB disk and 2 Ghz CPU and storage would go up from there depending on the size of things you are serving. jerry thank you. -art - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minimum requirements
look at: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html or: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE: 4MB, 8MB: Dies at bootstrap loader. 12MB, 16MB: Dies while loading acpi.ko. 20MB: Boots / Successfully installed the default minimal distribution set. Mem: 2484K Active, 1396K Iact, 6004K Wired, 680K Cache, 1984K Buf, 348K Free Swap: 7184K Total, 2732K Used, 4452K Free, 38% Inuse ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minimum requirements
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 11:48:26AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: I don't know what the current absolute minimum to run values would be. So recommended minimums would be somewhat subjective and depend on the intended use of the machine and the number of ports and user accounts you might put on it. For a personal work station with only a few ports, but not a stripped DNS server or something, I would recommend at least 512 MB memory and 18 GB disk and 1.5 GHz CPU with at least 400 MHz frontside bus. More and faster is nice. A stripped router or DNS server might get by with 1/4 the memory and 1 GB disk and a much slower CPU. A loaded desktop that included web server and web based utilities such as database services, Email and list services, etc might do better to start with 1 GB memory and 72 GB disk and 2 Ghz CPU and storage would go up from there depending on the size of things you are serving. jerry I am happily running FreeBSD 6.0 on 233 Mhz 128 MB RAM machine. It has given very good performance with very little cause for complaint. It is my workstation/desktop. I am not aware of any theoretical limit on hardware config for FreeBSD. Please remember to config a big enuf swap partition if ur RAM is low. regards, Girish ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minimum requirements
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 06:13:16PM -0700, Art Mattox wrote: what are the recommended minimum hw requirements for version 6.1? e.g. diskspace, memory, etc I don't know what the current absolute minimum to run values would be. I believe minimum ram is 24Mb but if you can get more... . I'm sure I used to run 4.X off 4Gb of disk and would suspect 6.X would fit too, with care. Of course, you have to be very careful what you actually do with a machine this low spec'ed. Certainly no room to compile firefox or openoffice :-) --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minimum requirements
Alex Zbyslaw writes: I believe minimum ram is 24Mb but if you can get more... . I'm sure I used to run 4.X off 4Gb of disk Sometime around then it was possible* to do a completely bare-bones installation in around 850 mb. This meant one partition, no swap, no X, no sources, no whole-pretty-much-anything not needed to get a) a login prompt and b) connected. Robert Huff * - by report ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 01:16:52AM -0400, Liquid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I am waiting on an auction to end. For some reason I never thought of looking on ebay, and I hit the jackpot there... 64mb of 30pin simms! Hope you have MB manual available, some mobos have strict requirements for memory and you can easily end up simply wasting money. -- Vallo Kallaste [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation
Hey everyone. A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his house so that the internet can be shared between a couple of tenants. I realize it can be very easily done using a router, but I have this 486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram. It has a 300mb and 640mb hd in it too. If I only wish to run a simple router setup using ipfilter and ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other services running being ssh and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care less about how fast it runs, as long as it does its job adequately. One other thing, seeing as it'll be sharing PPPoE adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all times. The reason I'm asking is because it only has 30-pin simm ram slots, and I haven't even seen any for sale anywhere, nevermind whether or not its close to reasonable. I realize that if it would have 16 MHz it would probably run just fine. That brings the list of stuff running to ppp -d ftpd (maybe, I might just use the old burn a cdrom and drive over method instead)0 openssh ipnat ipfilter Any comments more than welcome. Thanks, Sandro M. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, at 00:25 [=GMT+0200], Erik Trulsson wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 05:54:02PM -0400, Liquid wrote: Recent versions of FreeBSD require at least 16MB RAM to install. The last version that could be installed on 8MB RAM was FreeBSD 3.2 One possibility is to install 3.2 on it and then upgrade to 4.x in steps afterwards. Or put the harddisk in another machine and install/configure FreeBSD 4 there. Some time ago I got some 3 version running that way on a notebook (486/33) with 5MB (640k + 4MB actually), installing on another 486, making kernel stripped of all that was not necessary (NFS costs a lot of bytes) there too, and it did run. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 05:54:02PM -0400, Liquid wrote: Hey everyone. A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his house so that the internet can be shared between a couple of tenants. I realize it can be very easily done using a router, but I have this 486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram. It has a 300mb and 640mb hd in it too. If I only wish to run a simple router setup using ipfilter and ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other services running being ssh and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care less about how fast it runs, as long as it does its job adequately. One other thing, seeing as it'll be sharing PPPoE adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all times. The reason I'm asking is because it only has 30-pin simm ram slots, and I haven't even seen any for sale anywhere, nevermind whether or not its close to reasonable. I realize that if it would have 16 MHz it would probably run just fine. (30-pin SIMMs are actually still available from specialized dealers, but they are fairly expensive, and most of the time it would be cheaper to get a second-hand computer that has enough memory instead.) That machine will work just fine as a gateway/router/firewall but you will have trouble installing FreeBSD 4.x on it. (I have a 386sx 33MHz w/ 8MB RAM running 4-stable doing this kind of duty, and it works quite well.) Recent versions of FreeBSD require at least 16MB RAM to install. The last version that could be installed on 8MB RAM was FreeBSD 3.2 One possibility is to install 3.2 on it and then upgrade to 4.x in steps afterwards. (FreeBSD 4.x can run with only 8MB RAM, once you have configured swap.) Doing a make world on such a machine will be quite slow, but possible. If you have some faster machine available where you can do the buildworlds and then just do the installworld on the slow machine via NFS it becomes a more viable solution. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation
Thanks everyone for your input. Hopefully my cousin will take some interest in the box and he'll start messing with it until it breaks, so I can start learning again. My machine hasn't broken in months, its nearly boring now ;) -Original Message- From: Fernando Gleiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 1, 2002 9:53 PM To: Liquid Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Liquid wrote: Hey everyone. A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his house so that the internet can be shared between a couple of tenants. I realize it can be very easily done using a router, but I have this 486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram. It has a 300mb and 640mb hd in it too. If I only wish to run a simple router setup using ipfilter and ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other services running being ssh and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care less about how fast it runs, as long as it does its job adequately. One other thing, seeing as it'll be sharing PPPoE adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all times. My home firewall is an old 486DX 50 MHz with 16 MB RAM. It runs ipf/ipnat/ ipmon and uses DHCP to get its IP addr. The reason I'm asking is because it only has 30-pin simm ram slots, and I haven't even seen any for sale anywhere, nevermind whether or not its close to reasonable. I realize that if it would have 16 MHz it would probably run just fine. I think you need at least 12 MB RAM to install FreeBSD, but it runs with 8. You can try searching EBay, or getting more RAM for other discarded PCs :) Fer That brings the list of stuff running to ppp -d ftpd (maybe, I might just use the old burn a cdrom and drive over method instead)0 openssh ipnat ipfilter Any comments more than welcome. Thanks, Sandro M. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 06:22:34PM -0400, Peter Leftwich wrote: On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Doug Poland wrote: Liquid said: Hey everyone. A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his house so that the internet can be shared between a couple of tenants. I realize it can be very easily done using a router, but I have this 486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram. It has a 300mb and 640mb hd in it too. If I only wish to run a simple router setup using ipfilter and ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other services running being ssh and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care less about how fast it runs, as long as it does its job adequately. One other thing, seeing as it'll be sharing PPPoE adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all times. The reason I'm asking is because it only has 30-pin simm ram slots, and I haven't even seen any for sale anywhere, nevermind whether or not its close to reasonable. I realize that if it would have 16 MHz it would probably run just fine. That brings the list of stuff running to ppp -d ftpd (maybe, I might just use the old burn a cdrom and drive over method instead)0 openssh ipnat ipfilter Any comments more than welcome. I'm successfully running a network of 16 computers behind a 33MHz 80486 with 16MB memory and a 250MB disk. It has two NICs and runs sshd, ipfw, and natd on a RoadRunner cable modem. My only problem is the disk is so small I can't do an installworld to keep up with -STABLE. This box doesn't even breath hard. Regards, Doug Was there a helpful document you used to set this scheme up? I would be interested in whether you use a port or a switch, and how difficult it was to figure out ipfw. Thanks. -- Peter Leftwich Peter, I started with two 10Mbit hubs but had terrible results when I started adding 100Mbit full-duplexing NICS on some servers. I splurged and bought a 16-port 10/100 switch (the best $150US I've ever spent) and never looked back. I found the following quite useful (not in any particular order)... http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ http://www.erudition.net/freebsd/NAT-HOWTO http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html Building Internet Firewalls Zwicky, Cooper, Chapman (ISBN: 1-56592-871-7) man ipfw man natd This configuration requires a custom kernel to enable ipfw but other than that, there's very little else that has to be done to make a -RELEASE box perform in this role. -- Regards, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Doug Poland wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 06:22:34PM -0400, Peter Leftwich wrote: On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Doug Poland wrote: Liquid said: Hey everyone. A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his house so that the internet can be shared between a couple of tenants. I realize it can be very easily done using a router, but I have this 486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram. It has a 300mb and 640mb hd in it too. If I only wish to run a simple router setup using ipfilter and ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other services running being ssh and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care less about how fast it runs, as long as it does its job adequately. One other thing, seeing as it'll be sharing PPPoE adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all times. That brings the list of stuff running to ppp -d ftpd (maybe, I might just use the old burn a cdrom and drive over method instead)0 openssh ipnat ipfilter I started with two 10Mbit hubs but had terrible results when I started adding 100Mbit full-duplexing NICS on some servers. I splurged and bought a 16-port 10/100 switch (the best $150US I've ever spent) and never looked back. If you'd rather spend $30 and get something you know will work, you might consider refurbished netgear products (refurbished, but I've never had a problem...) from returnbuy.com ... For instance, you can get a decent router for $19.99 (search for rt311). - Jeff -- Jeff Jirsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message