Re: minimum requirements

2006-10-10 Thread Derrick Ryalls

On 10/9/06, Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 10/09/06 12:00, free bsd wrote:
 Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question.

   In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately.  What I 
am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive 
with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram?  The machine has a 232GB hard drive 
but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of 
adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being 
totally allocated to FreeBSD.

Well, as everyone has stated... It depends on what you are doing with
the machine.

I have a 512MB USB device running 5.3-RELEASE, Xorg, Fluxbox, nessus,
nmap, firefox, and a few other tidbits (no ports tree).  Its darn slow
off USB, but it works.  So yeah, 4GB is sufficient... for some amount of
functionality.

If *I* wanted to use a machine, say for a desktop, I'd want no less than
20GB.  I have a 20GB disk for a machine, yet I ran out of space while
trying to set it up the way I wanted.  I had most things setup, then
tried to compile OO.  I fell back to the package though.

Either way, everyones point is... It depends.  But I think most would
say to have a truly useful Desktop, 4GB is a bit slim.  My vote... 20GB+

HTH.


   However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or 
not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use 
a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features?  And if a larger drive 
how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features without 
limiting myself to a bare bones setup?  Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work 
how limited would the install/capabilities/features be?

   I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do 
not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility 
regarding type of installation options.

   -art




I didn't see it mentioned (may have missed it), I just wanted to point
out one thing.  There is a bit of a speed difference between a 4gig
drive and a 200gig drive.  If you are using a 3gig CPU, it would be a
shame to have such a huge bottleneck with the hard drive.
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minimum requirements

2006-10-09 Thread free bsd
Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question.  
   
  In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately.  What I am 
attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive 
with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram?  The machine has a 232GB hard drive 
but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of 
adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive 
being totally allocated to FreeBSD.  
   
  However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or not 
it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use a 
larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features?  And if a larger drive 
how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features 
without limiting myself to a bare bones setup?  Additionally, if the 4GB drive 
will work how limited would the install/capabilities/features be?  
   
  I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do 
not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility 
regarding type of installation options.
   
  -art


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Re: minimum requirements

2006-10-09 Thread Andy Greenwood

On 10/9/06, free bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question.

  In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately.  What I am 
attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive 
with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram?  The machine has a 232GB hard drive 
but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of 
adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive 
being totally allocated to FreeBSD.


You certainly can do this. I used to have freebsd installed on a 4 GB
drive myself (6.0 and 6.1) Keep in mind thought, that you probably
won't be able to have a whole desktop environment with all the
ammenities. You could, however, install the base system on the smaller
drive, then mount the larger drive and install stuff on there.



  However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or not 
it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use a 
larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features?  And if a larger drive 
how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features 
without limiting myself to a bare bones setup?  Additionally, if the 4GB drive 
will work how limited would the install/capabilities/features be?


If you don't need a GUI or anything like that, you could probably do
lots with this drive, without touching the larger drive. I ran my 4 GB
machine as a router/firewall/apache/mysql server for months. Keep in
mind too, that my machine's specs were considerably below yours. It
all really depends on what you want to do with the machine. If you
want KDE, good luck, it's not going to happen. If you want a router or
something, it'll be easy.



  I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do 
not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility 
regarding type of installation options.

  -art


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Re: minimum requirements

2006-10-09 Thread backyard


--- free bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you everyone for responding to my initial
 question.  

   In hindsight I realize I worded my original
 inquiry inaccurately.  What I am attempting to
 determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a
 4GB hard drive with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and
 1GB ram?  The machine has a 232GB hard drive but I
 have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused
 that I was thinking of adding to the machine to
 configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive
 being totally allocated to FreeBSD.  

   However, before attempting that task I am trying
 to determine whether or not it would be even
 feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or
 should I use a larger drive to install the many of
 FreeBSD's features?  And if a larger drive how large
 of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of
 its features without limiting myself to a bare bones
 setup?  Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work how
 limited would the install/capabilities/features be? 
 

   I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive
 but at the present time do not have a clue as to
 what size drive I should use for the most
 flexibility regarding type of installation options.

   -art
 
   


4gb would get you a basic setup system with X. As long
as you use packages for your installation. Building
ports from source will likely run you out of space
during port builds especially for the larger ports. 

you should be able to get the system, X, KDE OR Gnome,
running and a few other ports here and there. You
would be better off installing something like Icewm or
XFCE as these would get you nice looking window
managers without all the bloat and would be able to
run the apps from the bigger desktops. once the
dependant libraries are installed.

the issue you may run into is in swap. With 1 gig or
RAM you will only need a small amount of swap, maybe
as little as 64Meg. This would only be an issue if you
plan on getting core dumps from the kernel, because
you will not have space. This is why typically it is
recommended to have swap equal to Ram plus 1 meg. And
this is for a single partition of swap. the core won't
split over two swaps.

All in all more hard drive space is probably a good
idea just for /usr and or /home space depending on
what your doing. It would be a must if you want to
build things from source. 

These base system itself will be about 500 megs, ports
will add on 300 megs or so, then its the ports you
choose. 4 gig would work ok, but would get frustrating
quick. I would go with at least 8 gig for a loaded
system which for me is about 4.5 gigs total and like
300 packages installed mostly science packages and the
dependancies of gnome2. If you want to build things I
run with 10-15g slices for more space. and outside of
building that is more then I generally need. Although
for fairness I usually have multi-boot modes and share
a data drive amongst the OSs.

a list of the ports you want to use would help
determine space because some use a ton, and some use
very little.

-brian






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Re: minimum requirements

2006-10-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:00:11AM -0700, free bsd wrote:

 Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question.  

   In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately.  What 
 I am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB 
 hard drive with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram?  The machine has 
 a 232GB hard drive but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being 
 unused that I was thinking of adding to the machine to configure in a 
 dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being totally allocated to FreeBSD.  

   However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or 
 not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or 
 should I use a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features?  
 And if a larger drive how large of a drive would I need to utilize many 
 or any of its features without limiting myself to a bare bones setup?  
 Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work how limited would the 
 install/capabilities/features be?  

   I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time 
 do not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most 
 flexibility regarding type of installation options.

I think you probably have your answer from other responses - that it depends
on what you want to do with it.   If it is just to have a FreeBSD running
to look it over, 4 GB is plenty of space.   You could put on FreeBSD
and Xwindows and use a very basic windows manager like AfterStep or some
other very lean ones.   You could probably even get Apache on it and
maybe a browser.   But those would have to install from packages and
not a build from ports.You would have trouble getting OpenOffice
on it, but maybe from the prebuilt package that is available from
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.0-release/editors/
  Grab the latest one.
But, you would not be able to build any of these with that little space.
Openoffice seems to take over 10 GB to do its build, for example.  Also,
you might get something like MySQL running, but would soon run out of
space for the database.

You could easily build the basic system, then put a big file system on
another disk and move some of the stuff that can grow big over there 
such as /usr/local, /usr/ports, /var/spool, /var/db, /var/log and make
symlinks to them as you need.   Also, you can put your web site over
in the big disk, just by changing a line in httpd.conf.

If you build on the small disk, I would still suggest making root
its own partition, as well as a reasonable sized separate /tmp and, 
of course, some swap space.  Although if you are just experimenting,
you could just make a swap and /tmp and leave everything else in root
it is better to keep root small in a real production system - in case
a recovery is needed.

jerry


   -art
 
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Re: minimum requirements

2006-10-09 Thread Eric Schuele

On 10/09/06 12:00, free bsd wrote:
Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question.  
   
  In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately.  What I am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram?  The machine has a 232GB hard drive but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being totally allocated to FreeBSD.  


Well, as everyone has stated... It depends on what you are doing with 
the machine.


I have a 512MB USB device running 5.3-RELEASE, Xorg, Fluxbox, nessus, 
nmap, firefox, and a few other tidbits (no ports tree).  Its darn slow 
off USB, but it works.  So yeah, 4GB is sufficient... for some amount of 
functionality.


If *I* wanted to use a machine, say for a desktop, I'd want no less than 
20GB.  I have a 20GB disk for a machine, yet I ran out of space while 
trying to set it up the way I wanted.  I had most things setup, then 
tried to compile OO.  I fell back to the package though.


Either way, everyones point is... It depends.  But I think most would 
say to have a truly useful Desktop, 4GB is a bit slim.  My vote... 20GB+


HTH.

   
  However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features?  And if a larger drive how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features without limiting myself to a bare bones setup?  Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work how limited would the install/capabilities/features be?  
   
  I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility regarding type of installation options.
   
  -art



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minimum requirements

2006-09-29 Thread Art Mattox
what are the recommended minimum hw requirements for version 6.1?   e.g. 
diskspace, memory, etc
   
  thank you.
   
  -art
   


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Re: minimum requirements

2006-09-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 06:13:16PM -0700, Art Mattox wrote:

 what are the recommended minimum hw requirements for version 6.1?   
 e.g. diskspace, memory, etc

I don't know what the current absolute minimum to run values
would be.   So recommended minimums would be somewhat subjective
and depend on the intended use of the machine and the number
of ports and user accounts you might put on it.

For a personal work station with only a few ports, but not a
stripped DNS server or something, I would recommend at least 512 MB
memory and 18 GB disk and 1.5 GHz CPU with at least 400 MHz frontside
bus.   More and faster is nice.
A stripped router or DNS server might get by with 1/4 the memory
and 1 GB disk and a much slower CPU.

A loaded desktop that included web server and web based utilities
such as database services, Email and list services, etc might do better
to start with 1 GB memory and 72 GB disk and 2 Ghz CPU and storage
would go up from there depending on the size of things you are 
serving.

jerry


   thank you.

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Re: minimum requirements

2006-09-29 Thread Farcas Felix


look at:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html

or:
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE:
4MB, 8MB: Dies at bootstrap loader.
12MB, 16MB: Dies while loading acpi.ko.
20MB: Boots / Successfully installed the default minimal distribution set.
Mem: 2484K Active, 1396K Iact, 6004K Wired, 680K Cache, 1984K Buf, 348K 
Free Swap: 7184K Total, 2732K Used, 4452K Free, 38% Inuse

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Re: minimum requirements

2006-09-29 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 11:48:26AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 I don't know what the current absolute minimum to run values
 would be.   So recommended minimums would be somewhat subjective
 and depend on the intended use of the machine and the number
 of ports and user accounts you might put on it.
 
 For a personal work station with only a few ports, but not a
 stripped DNS server or something, I would recommend at least 512 MB
 memory and 18 GB disk and 1.5 GHz CPU with at least 400 MHz frontside
 bus.   More and faster is nice.
 A stripped router or DNS server might get by with 1/4 the memory
 and 1 GB disk and a much slower CPU.
 
 A loaded desktop that included web server and web based utilities
 such as database services, Email and list services, etc might do better
 to start with 1 GB memory and 72 GB disk and 2 Ghz CPU and storage
 would go up from there depending on the size of things you are 
 serving.
 
 jerry

I am happily running FreeBSD 6.0 on 233 Mhz 128 MB RAM machine. It has given 
very good performance with very little cause for complaint. 

It is my workstation/desktop. I am not aware of any theoretical limit on 
hardware config for FreeBSD. 

Please remember to config a big enuf swap partition if ur RAM is low. 

regards,
Girish
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Re: minimum requirements

2006-09-29 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Jerry McAllister wrote:


On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 06:13:16PM -0700, Art Mattox wrote:

 

what are the recommended minimum hw requirements for version 6.1?   
e.g. diskspace, memory, etc
   



I don't know what the current absolute minimum to run values
would be. 

I believe minimum ram is 24Mb but if you can get more... .  I'm sure I 
used to run 4.X off  4Gb of disk and would suspect 6.X would fit too, 
with care.  Of course, you have to be very careful what you actually do 
with a machine this low spec'ed.  Certainly no room to compile firefox 
or openoffice :-)


--Alex



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Re: minimum requirements

2006-09-29 Thread Robert Huff

Alex Zbyslaw writes:

  I believe minimum ram is 24Mb but if you can get more... .  I'm
  sure I used to run 4.X off  4Gb of disk

Sometime around then it was possible* to do a completely
bare-bones installation in around 850 mb.  This meant one partition,
no swap, no X, no sources, no whole-pretty-much-anything not needed
to get a) a login prompt and b) connected.


Robert Huff


* - by report
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Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation

2002-10-03 Thread Vallo Kallaste

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 01:16:52AM -0400, Liquid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually I am waiting on an auction to end.  For some reason I never
 thought of looking on ebay, and I hit the jackpot there... 64mb of 30pin
 simms!

Hope you have MB manual available, some mobos have strict
requirements for memory and you can easily end up simply wasting
money.
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Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation

2002-10-01 Thread Liquid

Hey everyone.  A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his house
so that the internet can be shared between a couple of tenants.  I
realize it can be very easily done using a router, but I have this
486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram.  It has a 300mb and 640mb hd in it
too.  If I only wish to run a simple router setup using ipfilter and
ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other services running being ssh
and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care less about how fast it runs, as long
as it does its job adequately.  One other thing, seeing as it'll be
sharing PPPoE adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all
times.

The reason I'm asking is because it only has 30-pin simm ram slots, and
I haven't even seen any for sale anywhere, nevermind whether or not its
close to reasonable.  I realize that if it would have 16 MHz it would
probably run just fine.

That brings the list of stuff running to
ppp -d
ftpd (maybe, I might just use the old burn a cdrom and drive over method
instead)0
openssh
ipnat
ipfilter

Any comments more than welcome.


Thanks, 
Sandro M.


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Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation

2002-10-01 Thread Marc Schneiders

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, at 00:25 [=GMT+0200], Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 05:54:02PM -0400, Liquid wrote:

 Recent versions of FreeBSD require at least 16MB RAM to install.
 The last version that could be installed on 8MB RAM was FreeBSD 3.2
 One possibility is to install 3.2 on it and then upgrade to 4.x in
 steps afterwards.

Or put the harddisk in another machine and install/configure FreeBSD 4
there. Some time ago I got some 3 version running that way on a
notebook (486/33) with 5MB (640k + 4MB actually), installing on
another 486, making kernel stripped of all that was not necessary (NFS
costs a lot of bytes) there too, and it did run.


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Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Trulsson

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 05:54:02PM -0400, Liquid wrote:
 Hey everyone.  A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his house
 so that the internet can be shared between a couple of tenants.  I
 realize it can be very easily done using a router, but I have this
 486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram.  It has a 300mb and 640mb hd in it
 too.  If I only wish to run a simple router setup using ipfilter and
 ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other services running being ssh
 and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care less about how fast it runs, as long
 as it does its job adequately.  One other thing, seeing as it'll be
 sharing PPPoE adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all
 times.
 
 The reason I'm asking is because it only has 30-pin simm ram slots, and
 I haven't even seen any for sale anywhere, nevermind whether or not its
 close to reasonable.  I realize that if it would have 16 MHz it would
 probably run just fine.
(30-pin SIMMs are actually still available from specialized dealers,
but they are fairly expensive, and most of the time it would be cheaper
to get a second-hand computer that has enough memory instead.)


That machine will work just fine as a gateway/router/firewall but you
will have trouble installing FreeBSD 4.x on it.
(I have a 386sx 33MHz  w/ 8MB RAM running 4-stable doing this kind of
duty, and it works quite well.)
Recent versions of FreeBSD require at least 16MB RAM to install.
The last version that could be installed on 8MB RAM was FreeBSD 3.2
One possibility is to install 3.2 on it and then upgrade to 4.x in
steps afterwards.  (FreeBSD 4.x can run with only 8MB RAM, once you
have configured swap.)
Doing a make world on such a machine will be quite slow, but possible.
If you have some faster machine available where you can do the
buildworlds and then just do the installworld on the slow machine via
NFS it becomes a more viable solution.


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RE: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation

2002-10-01 Thread Liquid

Thanks everyone for your input.  Hopefully my cousin will take some
interest in the box and he'll start messing with it until it breaks, so
I can start learning again.  My machine hasn't broken in months, its
nearly boring now ;)

-Original Message-
From: Fernando Gleiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: October 1, 2002 9:53 PM
To: Liquid
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation

On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Liquid wrote:

 Hey everyone.  A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his
house
 so that the internet can be shared between a couple of tenants.  I
 realize it can be very easily done using a router, but I have this
 486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram.  It has a 300mb and 640mb hd in it
 too.  If I only wish to run a simple router setup using ipfilter and
 ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other services running being ssh
 and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care less about how fast it runs, as
long
 as it does its job adequately.  One other thing, seeing as it'll be
 sharing PPPoE adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all
 times.

My home firewall is an old 486DX 50 MHz with 16 MB RAM. It runs
ipf/ipnat/
ipmon and uses DHCP to get its IP addr.


 The reason I'm asking is because it only has 30-pin simm ram slots,
and
 I haven't even seen any for sale anywhere, nevermind whether or not
its
 close to reasonable.  I realize that if it would have 16 MHz it would
 probably run just fine.

I think you need at least 12 MB RAM to install FreeBSD, but it runs
with
8. You can try searching EBay, or getting more RAM for other discarded
PCs :)


   Fer

 That brings the list of stuff running to
 ppp -d
 ftpd (maybe, I might just use the old burn a cdrom and drive over
method
 instead)0
 openssh
 ipnat
 ipfilter

 Any comments more than welcome.


 Thanks,
 Sandro M.


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Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation

2002-10-01 Thread Doug Poland

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 06:22:34PM -0400, Peter Leftwich wrote:
 On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Doug Poland wrote:
  Liquid said:
   Hey everyone.  A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his
   house so that the internet can be shared between a couple of
   tenants.  I realize it can be very easily done using a router, but
   I have this 486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram.  It has a 300mb and
   640mb hd in it too.  If I only wish to run a simple router setup
   using ipfilter and ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other
   services running being ssh and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care
   less about how fast it runs, as long as it does its job
   adequately.  One other thing, seeing as it'll be sharing PPPoE
   adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all times.
  
   The reason I'm asking is because it only has 30-pin simm ram
   slots, and I haven't even seen any for sale anywhere, nevermind
   whether or not its close to reasonable.  I realize that if it
   would have 16 MHz it would probably run just fine.
  
   That brings the list of stuff running to
   ppp -d
   ftpd (maybe, I might just use the old burn a cdrom and drive over
   method instead)0
   openssh
   ipnat
   ipfilter
  
   Any comments more than welcome.
  I'm successfully running a network of 16 computers behind a 33MHz
  80486 with 16MB memory and a 250MB disk.  It has two NICs and runs
  sshd, ipfw, and natd on a RoadRunner cable modem.  My only problem
  is the disk is so small I can't do an installworld to keep up with
  -STABLE.
  This box doesn't even breath hard.
  Regards,
  Doug
 
 Was there a helpful document you used to set this scheme up?  I would be
 interested in whether you use a port or a switch, and how difficult it was
 to figure out ipfw.  Thanks.

 --
 Peter Leftwich

Peter,

I started with two 10Mbit hubs but had terrible results when I started adding
100Mbit full-duplexing NICS on some servers.  I splurged and bought a 16-port 
10/100 switch (the best $150US I've ever spent) and never looked back.

I found the following quite useful (not in any particular order)...

http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/
http://www.erudition.net/freebsd/NAT-HOWTO
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html
Building Internet Firewalls Zwicky, Cooper,  Chapman  (ISBN: 1-56592-871-7)
man ipfw
man natd

This configuration requires a custom kernel to enable ipfw but other than that,
there's very little else that has to be done to make a -RELEASE box perform in 
this role.  

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Doug

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Re: Bare minimum requirements for FreeBSD installation

2002-10-01 Thread Jeff Jirsa

On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Doug Poland wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 06:22:34PM -0400, Peter Leftwich wrote:
  On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Doug Poland wrote:
   Liquid said:
Hey everyone.  A family member asked me to setup a gateway in his
house so that the internet can be shared between a couple of
tenants.  I realize it can be very easily done using a router, but
I have this 486dx2 50mhz at home with 8mb ram.  It has a 300mb and
640mb hd in it too.  If I only wish to run a simple router setup
using ipfilter and ipnat, will it run FreeBSD? The only other
services running being ssh and perhaps ftp and I couldn't care
less about how fast it runs, as long as it does its job
adequately.  One other thing, seeing as it'll be sharing PPPoE
adsl, I'll have PPP running in dedicated mode at all times.
   
   
That brings the list of stuff running to
ppp -d
ftpd (maybe, I might just use the old burn a cdrom and drive over
method instead)0
openssh
ipnat
ipfilter
   

 I started with two 10Mbit hubs but had terrible results when I started adding
 100Mbit full-duplexing NICS on some servers.  I splurged and bought a 16-port
 10/100 switch (the best $150US I've ever spent) and never looked back.


If you'd rather spend $30 and get something you know will work, you might
consider refurbished netgear products (refurbished, but I've never had a
problem...) from returnbuy.com ... For instance, you can get a decent
router for $19.99 (search for rt311).

- Jeff



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