Re: newby needing help
Hi Roland, thanks for the guidance, you've helped me sort out some confusions too. I shall try later this afternoon to mount my /home ext3 partition, after having another attempt to understand the man page for this command. anyway, your help has been useful and is greatly appreciated. neal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newby needing help
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 09:11:01PM +, neal wrote: I've checked out all the main functions I want from FreeBSD and had them all working (hehe, but since broke some) so I'm happy it will do the things I want so far. First question, what is recommended regarding doing updates. Is it best to just do all of them? It depends. If the update of the base system concerns something that you use, I would definitely install it. That's the problem though, same with linux, there are obvious things that I would update but there are likely items that I would never have a clue if I needed them or not. As I'm going to do a completely fresh install on a clean system I might just try doing all upgrades right from the start and see how it goes from there. The best way to keep the base system up-to-date is using csup (which is still referenced in the Handbook in §20.3 as cvsup). For updating the ports tree I can recommend portsnap. For updating the ports themselves I use portmaster. I have always had problems doing this e.g. with Mandrake and other Linuxs and so am reluctant, but if it is usual I'll give it a try. The upgrade tools on FreeBSD work quite well. But if you're rebuilding your own ports it can take quite some time depending on your machine. I've been using the Package Manager so far but will look into using a command prompt at some later time. (I'm also reluctant as I assume a full update will update xorg to 7.3 and I have 7.2 installed with the latest nvidia 9# driver and it works beautifully so would rather stay with that. There is a new beta driver available. Yes, I've read about it here. I have read the Handbook, but still have a problem understanding how to map my ext2 and ext3 partitions to the UFS notation. e.g. The notation is a BSD thing, it has nothing to do with UFS. ok. I have a drive hda, it has a swap an unused space and four partitions one of which is my home partition hda7. How do I refer to this home partition using ad0??? notation If you do 'ls ad0*' you'll see what is available. Remember that what DOS and Linux calls partitions are called slices in FreeBSD. Partitions in FreeBSD are subdivisions of a slice. E.g. ad0s1a is partition a of slice 1 of ad0. Customarily, slice b is used for swap, and slice c is unused. You can see this with the 'bsdlabel' command. OK, I've done that. this is the result for the drive currently being used by linux. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/pineal]$ ls /dev/ad0* /dev/ad0/dev/ad0s2 /dev/ad0s6 /dev/ad0s8 /dev/ad0s1 /dev/ad0s5 /dev/ad0s7 /dev/ad0s9 - The number of apparent slices (those with a ad0s[n] designation) seen by BSD is one more than the number of linux partitions I actually have. No I haven't miss-counted. I have 1 swapfile partition and five partitions hda5-9 used by linux. btw I tried to run the bsdlabel command but it returns no valid label found for both ad0 and ad1. (as this is what I understand I need to do, if not please enlighten). I have installed the ext2fs utilities/drivers and can mount an ext2 fs written on dvd without problems. I would recommend converting the disk to native UFS2 filesystems. I'm not sure if mounting an ext2 slice read/write is such a good idea. Make (in Linux, e.g. Knoppix) a tarball of your data and seve it to another disk or CD,DVD. Reslice and format the disk with sysinstall, and restore your backup. Maybe I didn't make myself clear here. I have an existing in-use Linux system. I want to be able to access the /home partition as it contains all my personal data that I will need to move over to FreeBSD when I do the new install. You might find §16.3 of the Handbook enlightening. did you mean from Ch 16 3. Why will chmod not change the permissions on symlinks? I intend to do a completely fresh install and would like to compile for my specific pc kit. Would I be best doing this following installation and initial setting up? Yes. Read Chapter 4 of the Handbook about ports. My FreeBSD page has some tips about setting port variables in make.conf; http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html Roland Had a quick look at your 'page', looks useful. thank you for your help Roland neal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newby needing help
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 09:39:50PM +, neal wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 09:11:01PM +, neal wrote: I've checked out all the main functions I want from FreeBSD and had them all working (hehe, but since broke some) so I'm happy it will do the things I want so far. First question, what is recommended regarding doing updates. Is it best to just do all of them? It depends. If the update of the base system concerns something that you use, I would definitely install it. That's the problem though, same with linux, there are obvious things that I would update but there are likely items that I would never have a clue if I needed them or not. As I'm going to do a completely fresh install on a clean system I might just try doing all upgrades right from the start and see how it goes from there. There are different branches that you can follow. You could go for 6.2-RELEASE with (security patches). You won't have to update this often. Or if you need drivers or features that are not in RELEASE yet, you can follow 6-STABLE. 7-CURRENT is for those feeling adventurous. I'd recommend starting with 6.2-RELEASE with patches. The best way to keep the base system up-to-date is using csup (which is still referenced in the Handbook in §20.3 as cvsup). For updating the ports tree I can recommend portsnap. For updating the ports themselves I use portmaster. I have always had problems doing this e.g. with Mandrake and other Linuxs and so am reluctant, but if it is usual I'll give it a try. The upgrade tools on FreeBSD work quite well. But if you're rebuilding your own ports it can take quite some time depending on your machine. I've been using the Package Manager so far but will look into using a command prompt at some later time. I've never used Package Manager. I didn't even know FreeBSD had one. :-) I have a drive hda, it has a swap an unused space and four partitions one of which is my home partition hda7. How do I refer to this home partition using ad0??? notation If you do 'ls ad0*' you'll see what is available. Remember that what DOS and Linux calls partitions are called slices in FreeBSD. Partitions in FreeBSD are subdivisions of a slice. E.g. ad0s1a is partition a of slice 1 of ad0. Customarily, slice b is used for swap, and slice c is unused. You can see this with the 'bsdlabel' command. OK, I've done that. this is the result for the drive currently being used by linux. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/pineal]$ ls /dev/ad0* /dev/ad0/dev/ad0s2 /dev/ad0s6 /dev/ad0s8 /dev/ad0s1 /dev/ad0s5 /dev/ad0s7 /dev/ad0s9 - The number of apparent slices (those with a ad0s[n] designation) seen by BSD is one more than the number of linux partitions I actually have. No I haven't miss-counted. I have 1 swapfile partition and five partitions hda5-9 used by linux. Try mounting slices 5-9 with mount_ext2fs (as root). btw I tried to run the bsdlabel command but it returns no valid label found for both ad0 and ad1. My bad. That only works with BSD partitions. Maybe I didn't make myself clear here. I have an existing in-use Linux system. I want to be able to access the /home partition as it contains all my personal data that I will need to move over to FreeBSD when I do the new install. I would still recommend moving the data to a UFS2 filesystem. You might find §16.3 of the Handbook enlightening. did you mean from Ch 16 3. Why will chmod not change the permissions on symlinks? I mean chapter 16, section 3; Adding Disks (on my 6-STABLE system). The HTML version lives at file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks-adding.html Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpDe3i2IgxrZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
newby needing help
Hello List, I've been reading the list for a few weeks now and trying out 6.2STABLE. I've been using Linux for the past 6years and dos/windows a lot longer before that. Now I'm trying out something new and I really like it. Even better, there are both a mailing list and a newsgroup for support, wahay! no [expletive] forums! IMHO something that is done FOR the users and for which I am truly grateful. I've checked out all the main functions I want from FreeBSD and had them all working (hehe, but since broke some) so I'm happy it will do the things I want so far. First question, what is recommended regarding doing updates. Is it best to just do all of them? I have always had problems doing this e.g. with Mandrake and other Linuxs and so am reluctant, but if it is usual I'll give it a try. (I'm also reluctant as I assume a full update will update xorg to 7.3 and I have 7.2 installed with the latest nvidia 9# driver and it works beautifully so would rather stay with that. I have read the Handbook, but still have a problem understanding how to map my ext2 and ext3 partitions to the UFS notation. e.g. I have a drive hda, it has a swap an unused space and four partitions one of which is my home partition hda7. How do I refer to this home partition using ad0??? notation (as this is what I understand I need to do, if not please enlighten). I have installed the ext2fs utilities/drivers and can mount an ext2 fs written on dvd without problems. I intend to do a completely fresh install and would like to compile for my specific pc kit. Would I be best doing this following installation and initial setting up? and is it possible to load something from a package now and later reinstall from ports? TIA neal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newby needing help
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 09:11:01PM +, neal wrote: I've checked out all the main functions I want from FreeBSD and had them all working (hehe, but since broke some) so I'm happy it will do the things I want so far. First question, what is recommended regarding doing updates. Is it best to just do all of them? It depends. If the update of the base system concerns something that you use, I would definitely install it. The best way to keep the base system up-to-date is using csup (which is still referenced in the Handbook in §20.3 as cvsup). For updating the ports tree I can recommend portsnap. For updating the ports themselves I use portmaster. I have always had problems doing this e.g. with Mandrake and other Linuxs and so am reluctant, but if it is usual I'll give it a try. The upgrade tools on FreeBSD work quite well. But if you're rebuilding your own ports it can take quite some time depending on your machine. (I'm also reluctant as I assume a full update will update xorg to 7.3 and I have 7.2 installed with the latest nvidia 9# driver and it works beautifully so would rather stay with that. There is a new beta driver available. I have read the Handbook, but still have a problem understanding how to map my ext2 and ext3 partitions to the UFS notation. e.g. The notation is a BSD thing, it has nothing to do with UFS. I have a drive hda, it has a swap an unused space and four partitions one of which is my home partition hda7. How do I refer to this home partition using ad0??? notation If you do 'ls ad0*' you'll see what is available. Remember that what DOS and Linux calls partitions are called slices in FreeBSD. Partitions in FreeBSD are subdivisions of a slice. E.g. ad0s1a is partition a of slice 1 of ad0. Customarily, slice b is used for swap, and slice c is unused. You can see this with the 'bsdlabel' command. (as this is what I understand I need to do, if not please enlighten). I have installed the ext2fs utilities/drivers and can mount an ext2 fs written on dvd without problems. I would recommend converting the disk to native UFS2 filesystems. I'm not sure if mounting an ext2 slice read/write is such a good idea. Make (in Linux, e.g. Knoppix) a tarball of your data and seve it to another disk or CD,DVD. Reslice and format the disk with sysinstall, and restore your backup. You might find §16.3 of the Handbook enlightening. I intend to do a completely fresh install and would like to compile for my specific pc kit. Would I be best doing this following installation and initial setting up? Yes. Read Chapter 4 of the Handbook about ports. My FreeBSD page has some tips about setting port variables in make.conf; http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpkHoPrDm16I.pgp Description: PGP signature
