Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:05:41 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you seen my book and website? > > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > It is out of print now but still available on Amazon. Ted; Will you do an updated version of the book some day ? I see it has 4 and 1/2 stars on Amazon.com; a very good reader review rating. Kind regards, Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Durham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:42 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt > Subject: Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? > > > On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:05 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > Have you seen my book and website? > > > > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > It is out of print now but still available on Amazon. > > > > I have the book and I contributed some stuff to you a few > years ago 8-) . > Thanks! Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Durham > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:04 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? > > > I guess I would have to say that the niche I am talking about > is supporting > applications of a corporate/business nature on FreeBSD. > One big problem with this is that still, the majority of software business apps are commercial packages, and the vendors of those packages release their apps for platforms that they consider to help them sell their software. The Oracle story is a good example. Back in 1999-2000, Oracle actually completed a port of Oracle to FreeBSD. But they never released it, deciding that there was not enough market for it. Later they released it for Linux, but still, even today, many companies that sell Oracle-related software still don't have Linux ports. Naturally, a lot of software that isn't really a corporate business application (like a web server) is used by business and by corporations. But that is already covered plenty elsewhere. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
On Monday 17 January 2005 04:55 pm, Gene wrote: > Ever thought about starting one of your own? > Gene Actually, yes, if I didn't find one. Anyone interested? Mailing list? Wiki? Whatever? -Jim > > Jim Durham wrote: > >On Saturday 15 January 2005 01:12 pm, Chuck Swiger wrote: > >>Jim Durham wrote: > >>>I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running > >>>Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on > >>> FreeBSD..about 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be > >>> more. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
Ever thought about starting one of your own? Gene Jim Durham wrote: On Saturday 15 January 2005 01:12 pm, Chuck Swiger wrote: Jim Durham wrote: I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. OK. Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented information regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented for an office/LAN environment. I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on freebsd.org. Your question parses, but it is not clear what specific thing you have in mind that would seperate an IT-oriented list from a non-IT oriented list. Can you either give an example question or two, or can you say why freebsd-questions is *not* IT-oriented? Sorry for the slow reply...I was out of touch for a day.. I guess I'm thinking that there are just a lot of things that you get into in a corporate environment . "For instances" are hard to think of off the top of my head, but, how about implementing Citrix NFuse on Tomcat on FreeBSD? They always assume Linux or Solaris or (sorry..SCO..8-) ) and while you can make it work on FreeBSD, you spend a lot of time fixing stuff that probably someone else has fixed before or conversly, you should be sharing thi info so others don't have to wade through the 'discovery' process. Or does your question mean you looking for a list whose members are mostly sysadmins and network managers, rather than end-users? Exactly. FreeBSD doesn't really make much distinction between an end-user and a sysadmin [1], but you might find freebsd-stable or freebsd-isp to come closer to what you are looking for. What I'm saying is a list like freebsd-isp, but focused on corporate IT with FreeBSD. -isp is helpful, and I *am* subscribed, but doesn't include a lot of IT types. (snip) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jim Durham wrote: > > I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running > > Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about > > 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. > > <...> > > > I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT > > on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on > > freebsd.org. > > I'm not really understanding the distinction that you're looking for. > For FreeBSD-specific technical discussions, this is the place. > Applications of course have their own lists, which are obviously more > appropriate for application-specific questions. I guess I would have to say that the niche I am talking about is supporting applications of a corporate/business nature on FreeBSD. > > For broader discussions, perhaps regarding best practices in system > administration, commercial backup recommendations, etc, I find SAGE (the > System Administrators Guild) to be an extremely valuable resource. The > community seems roughly split between the educational and corporate > sectors, with a very high level of signal. The topics covered on the > SAGE mailing list are of high relevance to the profession and practices > of system administrators, especially for someone with a network such as > yours. > > http://www.sage.org > Good suggestion. I will check that out. Thanks! -Jim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:05 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Have you seen my book and website? > > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > It is out of print now but still available on Amazon. > I have the book and I contributed some stuff to you a few years ago 8-) . -- -Jim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
On Saturday 15 January 2005 01:12 pm, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Jim Durham wrote: > > I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running > > Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about > > 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. > > OK. > > > Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the > > signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented > > information regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented > > for an office/LAN environment. > > > > I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT > > on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on > > freebsd.org. > > Your question parses, but it is not clear what specific thing you have in > mind that would seperate an IT-oriented list from a non-IT oriented list. > Can you either give an example question or two, or can you say why > freebsd-questions is *not* IT-oriented? Sorry for the slow reply...I was out of touch for a day.. I guess I'm thinking that there are just a lot of things that you get into in a corporate environment . "For instances" are hard to think of off the top of my head, but, how about implementing Citrix NFuse on Tomcat on FreeBSD? They always assume Linux or Solaris or (sorry..SCO..8-) ) and while you can make it work on FreeBSD, you spend a lot of time fixing stuff that probably someone else has fixed before or conversly, you should be sharing thi info so others don't have to wade through the 'discovery' process. > > Or does your question mean you looking for a list whose members are mostly > sysadmins and network managers, rather than end-users? Exactly. > FreeBSD doesn't > really make much distinction between an end-user and a sysadmin [1], but > you might find freebsd-stable or freebsd-isp to come closer to what you are > looking for. What I'm saying is a list like freebsd-isp, but focused on corporate IT with FreeBSD. -isp is helpful, and I *am* subscribed, but doesn't include a lot of IT types. (snip) -- -Jim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 05:12, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Jim Durham wrote: > > I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running > > Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 > > servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. > > OK. > > > Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the > > signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented > > information > > regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented for an > > office/LAN > > environment. > > > > I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on > > FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on > > freebsd.org. > > Your question parses, but it is not clear what specific thing you have in > mind > that would seperate an IT-oriented list from a non-IT oriented list. Can you > either give an example question or two, or can you say why freebsd-questions > is *not* IT-oriented? > > Or does your question mean you looking for a list whose members are mostly > sysadmins and network managers, rather than end-users? FreeBSD doesn't > really > make much distinction between an end-user and a sysadmin [1], but you might > find freebsd-stable or freebsd-isp to come closer to what you are looking for. > > -- > -Chuck > > [1]: Which can be benefit sometimes, or it can be a problem, especially for > novice users, but that's another topic. I agree the the S/N ratio is [a] variable [b] generally high ... However I also find that for a specific question posed by oneself, the S/N ratio improves a lot with directed answers generally being quite useful. Admittedly, sometimes they can be 'short and succinct' (read terse), especially if it is a common question for which the answer could have been filtered out of the preceeding 'noise'. cheers mjt -- Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer - Bytecraft Systems & Entertainment P: +61 3 8710 2555 F: +61 3 8710 2599 D: +61 3 9238 4275 M: +61 417 319 256 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit us on the web http://www.bytecraftsystems.com http://www.bytecraftentertainment.com --- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this e-mail (and any attachment) accordingly. No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
Jim Durham wrote: I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. <...> I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on freebsd.org. I'm not really understanding the distinction that you're looking for. For FreeBSD-specific technical discussions, this is the place. Applications of course have their own lists, which are obviously more appropriate for application-specific questions. For broader discussions, perhaps regarding best practices in system administration, commercial backup recommendations, etc, I find SAGE (the System Administrators Guild) to be an extremely valuable resource. The community seems roughly split between the educational and corporate sectors, with a very high level of signal. The topics covered on the SAGE mailing list are of high relevance to the profession and practices of system administrators, especially for someone with a network such as yours. http://www.sage.org Cheers, Sebastian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Durham > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:48 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? > > > I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running > Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on > FreeBSD..about 8 > servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. > > Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers > there, but the > signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for > IT-oriented information > regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented > for an office/LAN > environment. > > I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup > devoted to IT on > FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on > freebsd.org. > Have you seen my book and website? http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com It is out of print now but still available on Amazon. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
Jim Durham wrote: I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. OK. Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented information regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented for an office/LAN environment. I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on freebsd.org. Your question parses, but it is not clear what specific thing you have in mind that would seperate an IT-oriented list from a non-IT oriented list. Can you either give an example question or two, or can you say why freebsd-questions is *not* IT-oriented? Or does your question mean you looking for a list whose members are mostly sysadmins and network managers, rather than end-users? FreeBSD doesn't really make much distinction between an end-user and a sysadmin [1], but you might find freebsd-stable or freebsd-isp to come closer to what you are looking for. -- -Chuck [1]: Which can be benefit sometimes, or it can be a problem, especially for novice users, but that's another topic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented information regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented for an office/LAN environment. I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on freebsd.org. If such a list or newsgroup does not exist, would there be any interest in starting one or both? -- -Jim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: best newsgroup?
At 09:21 12/22/2004, Pervert Files wrote: >Hello, > >What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. >muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating with anything on my >news provider. > >-- >Thanks, >Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also try: http://www.Mail-Archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/ Start Here to Find It Fast! -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: best newsgroup?
Joshua Lokken wrote: On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:28:58 -0600, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes that worked, cool, now I can search every newsgroup with the word freebsd in it: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=*.freebsd.* http://www.google.com/bsd Yes this is a usefull tool as well but it will only let you search web pages here's this thread in google groups: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/a645030a2aba09d2/da511797e7f307ba You can clearly see that they keep it up to date :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: best newsgroup?
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:28:58 -0600, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes that worked, cool, now I can search every newsgroup with the word > freebsd in it: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=*.freebsd.* http://www.google.com/bsd -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: best newsgroup?
Nikolas Britton wrote: This ones easy (tho I hate there "new" style), bookmark this link to your toolbar as "BSD Search": http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=mailing.freebsd.* This will let you google all the freebsd mailing lists, in the search box you'll see "group:mailing.freebsd.*", don't delete it, you can type in front of it or after it. and note that you can change as_ugroup= to anything you want, and you know.. I've never tried it like this: *.freebsd.* hmm? Yes that worked, cool, now I can search every newsgroup with the word freebsd in it: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=*.freebsd.* ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: best newsgroup?
Joshua Tinnin wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:20:04AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:21:46 -0500, Pervert Files <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating with anything on my news provider. Well, a google search on 'freebsd questions archives' shows: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/059184.html http://archive.pilgerer.org/mharc/html/freebsd-questions/ The archives are easily available, as Joshua showed, but if you want to browse the questions list on a newsgroup, check out mailing.freebsd.questions. - jt This ones easy (tho I hate there "new" style), bookmark this link to your toolbar as "BSD Search": http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=mailing.freebsd.* This will let you google all the freebsd mailing lists, in the search box you'll see "group:mailing.freebsd.*", don't delete it, you can type in front of it or after it. and note that you can change as_ugroup= to anything you want, and you know.. I've never tried it like this: *.freebsd.* hmm? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: best newsgroup?
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:20:04AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:21:46 -0500, Pervert Files > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. > > muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating > > with anything on my news provider. > > Well, a google search on 'freebsd questions archives' shows: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/059184.html > http://archive.pilgerer.org/mharc/html/freebsd-questions/ The archives are easily available, as Joshua showed, but if you want to browse the questions list on a newsgroup, check out mailing.freebsd.questions. - jt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: best newsgroup?
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:21:46 -0500, Pervert Files <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. > muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating > with anything on my news provider. Well, a google search on 'freebsd questions archives' shows: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/059184.html http://archive.pilgerer.org/mharc/html/freebsd-questions/ -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
best newsgroup?
Hello, What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating with anything on my news provider. -- Thanks, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: binaries newsgroup downloader
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 9:59 AM Subject: binaries newsgroup downloader > Hi, I am using freeBSD 5.1 > > I'm am looking for a newgroup > binary downloader. The glitter > port package says broken link > when i type make install. Do you > know an alternative GUI program > I can used? If you don't need the gui, you can use newsgrab Leif ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
binaries newsgroup downloader
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