newsletter APP NOT listserve

2009-02-05 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Can anyone recommend a newsletter application , preferably where I can just
have an ordinary user login via a webpage , upload a file/message/ and click
send?

I was playing with mailman , but that seems to be a list serve app.


tia 




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Re: newsletter APP NOT listserve

2009-02-05 Thread Geoff Fritz
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 09:31:56AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a newsletter application , preferably where I can just
 have an ordinary user login via a webpage , upload a file/message/ and click
 send?
 
 I was playing with mailman , but that seems to be a list serve app.

I've been using phplist for a couple of years on a client's site.  It has
click stats, a decent web interface, relatively easy to get up and running,
and the performance is pretty good.

It is a little top-heavy, though, since it requires apache/php/mysql.
However, after enabling mysql query caching and adding eaccelerator into
the mix, it runs fairly well.  My last send clocked in at 47k messages per
hour on a 2.8GHz dual-core Pentium-D, using postfix as the local MTA.

I like the fact that it will automatically prune the list membership after
a user-configurable number of bounces.  Filter the bounce catcher account,
though, as spam will make your DB grow to insane sizes and bog it down.

It's not the best package in the world, but it's the only comperable
open source package that I know of.  I hope to hear of alternatives in
this thread.

-- Geoff
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RE: newsletter APP NOT listserve

2009-02-05 Thread Jean-Paul Natola


-Original Message-
From: Geoff Fritz [mailto:gfr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:26 AM
To: Jean-Paul Natola
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: newsletter APP NOT listserve

On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 09:31:56AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a newsletter application , preferably where I can just
 have an ordinary user login via a webpage , upload a file/message/ and
click
 send?
 
 I was playing with mailman , but that seems to be a list serve app.

I've been using phplist for a couple of years on a client's site.  It has
click stats, a decent web interface, relatively easy to get up and running,
and the performance is pretty good.

It is a little top-heavy, though, since it requires apache/php/mysql.
However, after enabling mysql query caching and adding eaccelerator into
the mix, it runs fairly well.  My last send clocked in at 47k messages per
hour on a 2.8GHz dual-core Pentium-D, using postfix as the local MTA.

I like the fact that it will automatically prune the list membership after
a user-configurable number of bounces.  Filter the bounce catcher account,
though, as spam will make your DB grow to insane sizes and bog it down.

It's not the best package in the world, but it's the only comperable
open source package that I know of.  I hope to hear of alternatives in
this thread.
_-
Well the server I plan to run it a VPS server, so I REALLY DON'T know what
the specs are on the box- and since it's not dedicated I have no clue what
else or what other sites are on it- I do know it has exim installed which I
am very familiar with and actually use- I know it has MySql on it as well it
a red hat 9 os if im not mistaken and I've never used apache or php, what's
the learning curve like to get that running?


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Re: newsletter APP NOT listserve

2009-02-05 Thread Geoff Fritz
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 03:55:17PM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 
 _-
 Well the server I plan to run it a VPS server, so I REALLY DON'T know what
 the specs are on the box- and since it's not dedicated I have no clue what
 else or what other sites are on it- I do know it has exim installed which I
 am very familiar with and actually use- I know it has MySql on it as well it
 a red hat 9 os if im not mistaken and I've never used apache or php, what's
 the learning curve like to get that running?

The learning curve?  That entirely depends on how comfortble you are with
configuring applications on Unix/Linux servers in general.  If you've never
set up a web server, then it will take you some time to get things nailed
down correctly.  If you merely have not installed Apache before, as opposed
to another web server, then it should not be difficult.

All I can say is start from the bottom, and work your way up.  Learn to
configure mysql, next install and set up Apache, then get PHP installed.
Last, read up on the rquirements for phplist, install the required PHP
modules, and then finally phplist itself.

The first time I set up phplist, I had a working setup in a couple of
hours, which I then took a few days to test thoroughly.  However, I did
have several years of of apache/mysql/php setup and usage experience before
that.

All I can suggest is to jump in and start learning.  All of these open
source packages have great online docs, tutorials, and support communities
to get you going.

Good luck with whatever you end up using.

-- Geoff
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RE: newsletter APP NOT listserve

2009-02-05 Thread Jean-Paul Natola



The learning curve?  That entirely depends on how comfortble you are with
configuring applications on Unix/Linux servers in general.  If you've never
set up a web server, then it will take you some time to get things nailed
down correctly.  If you merely have not installed Apache before, as opposed
to another web server, then it should not be difficult.

All I can say is start from the bottom, and work your way up.  Learn to
configure mysql, next install and set up Apache, then get PHP installed.
Last, read up on the rquirements for phplist, install the required PHP
modules, and then finally phplist itself.

The first time I set up phplist, I had a working setup in a couple of
hours, which I then took a few days to test thoroughly.  However, I did
have several years of of apache/mysql/php setup and usage experience before
that.

All I can suggest is to jump in and start learning.  All of these open
source packages have great online docs, tutorials, and support communities
to get you going.


-- Geoff

since this hosted server holds our website and database, my main concern is
that i do not affect those existing configurations- a web developer created
our site/shopping cart and cms and loaded it all on this VPS -  i just don't
want to someone to come to me and say hey our website is down or something
to that affect


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RE: newsletter APP NOT listserve

2009-02-05 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Ideally, stats,  subscribe, unsubscribe, and let the person in charge have
the ability to  be able to select the recipients for a particular letter
based on a field or combination of two fields. i.e.  send to all contacts
that are doctors  or send to all contacts that are doctors and are in the
HIV prevention program- upload lists can be csv txt excel  doesnt really
matter-

GUI would be great for managing contacts because if the the contacts address
changes i want the user to be able to login and change his address or phone
etc...







Jean-Paul Natola
Network Administrator
Information Technology
Family Care International
588 Broadway Suite 503
New York, NY 10012
Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36
Fax:  212-941-5563
Mailto: jnat...@familycareintl.org



-Original Message-
From: Vince Sabio [mailto:tastel...@mac.com]
Sent: Thu 2/5/2009 20:20
To: Jean-Paul Natola
Subject: Re: newsletter APP NOT listserve
 
** At 09:31 -0500 on 02/05/2009, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:

Can anyone recommend a newsletter application , preferably where I can just
have an ordinary user login via a webpage , upload a file/message/ and click
send?

What are the requirements/characteristics of the newsletter app 
you're looking for? Does it need to have stats/campaign tracking? Is 
a web interface required, or can the user simply format and send his 
e-mail message via e-mail to the server? Does it need to provide the 
ability for users to subscribe and unsubscribe themselves? How will 
the newsletter owner upload his list? What format will (should?) the 
list be in when he uploads it? How large will the lists be? If they 
are small enough, then most mail clients should be able to provide 
the basic functionality of sending a newsletter to a list.

I was playing with mailman , but that seems to be a list serve app.

The proper term is list server, so as not to confuse with 
Listserv, which is a copyrighted product (developed by Eric Thomas 
and L-Soft).


Vince SabioDon't blame me; I voted for Matthew.tastel...@mac.com

Socialism: Government of the inept, by the inept, for the inept.



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