UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me. OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry) After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working. I TTL's onto the server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this basic task seamlessly! OK I try sysinstall and find SAMBA isn't marked as installed. I select samba for install but when installing SAMBA get a error code -1 (WTF is that all about REALLY USEFUL error message mate!) Looked on google and keeps referring to PORTS being installed. Tried the examples of how to install SAMBA but get loads of failed command line instructions - Doesn't say anything about installing PORTS during initial installation. So I guess you can say I don't have Ports installed - why isn't this done automatically if its absolutely so critical for the OS to function right? Error messages that mean nothing to the every day user. Apparently I am meant to have something called PORTS installed before I've even setup the server. Im really beginning to lose my rag with this OS. Is it meant for gurus only? So what am I meant to do now. Now I have XXX GB of data I cant access though SAMBA prior to the install? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:10:32 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me. OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry) After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working. I TTL's onto the server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this basic task seamlessly! When you upgraded from 7 to 8, you need to recompile your ports (or delete and re-install from packages). You can also install the 7 compatibility libraries. OK I try sysinstall and find SAMBA isn't marked as installed. The sysinstall program doesn't know what's installed. It's just a selection interface to the pkg_add program. I select samba for install but when installing SAMBA get a error code -1 (WTF is that all about REALLY USEFUL error message mate!) The sysinstall program can't tell you what's the problem. The pkg_add program probably exited with -1, and that's what sysinstall is informing you about. Looked on google and keeps referring to PORTS being installed. Tried the examples of how to install SAMBA but get loads of failed command line instructions - Doesn't say anything about installing PORTS during initial installation. At this moment, it would be useful if you could provide (1st) what command you entered and (2nd) what the system responded. Basically, in order to perform a major update of a system, you first update your ports tree (e. g. using portsnap), then you enter the port's directory in question and do make deinstall, followed by make reinstall. You can of course use programs like portmaster, portupgrade or portmanager to take care of this. For example, per- forming the upgrade of all installed applications, the command portupgrade -a can be used. I may repeat: Major version updates of the OS usually require the re-compilation of all installed ports. So I guess you can say I don't have Ports installed - why isn't this done automatically if its absolutely so critical for the OS to function right? In fact, it isn't. You can live without the ports collection. This collection is just a subtree /usr/ports that is usually installed together with the OS. You can use sysinstall to install the ports collection after the system has been installed, or you can use portsnap to obtain it. This subtree contains a hierarchy with files describing how to handle (configure, install, deinstall, upgrade) applications. It is meant to make compiling programs easier (no ./configure make make install), and there are programs interfacing with this system. If you don't want to use ports, use packages. This is usually done through sysinstall or pkg_add (see man pkg_add), as well as, for example, portinstall -PP samba (see man portupgrade) which will install sanba by utilizing the ports tree, but not by compiling - instead by getting the package. Error messages that mean nothing to the every day user. When you're dealing with ports and packages, you're not an every day user (in terms of average user). In such a case, you shouldn't even consider upgrading your system without reading the instructions telling you how to do it. I may politely point you at the excellent documentation provided for FreeBSD - The FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ. Feel free to read more about OS and application upgrade there, and find out how easy it is as soon as you *know* what to do. Apparently I am meant to have something called PORTS installed before I've even setup the server. No. You don't need the ports collection, and you can install it whenever you want. Please read in the documentation what a port exactly is, and what a package is. Im really beginning to lose my rag with this OS. Is it meant for gurus only? No. So what am I meant to do now. Maybe first you bring your ports tree up to date, then install portupgrade, and finally do portupgrade -a. Before you do this, read man portupgrade, and maybe man ports. Now I have XXX GB of data I cant access though SAMBA prior to the install? I don't understand, sorry. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me. OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry) After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working. I TTL's onto the server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this basic task seamlessly! [snip rest of useless rant] Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem in ports that touches Samba. Probably related to your Samba install complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago: bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1 gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1: lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
Again Ports? What is that about... I've run the server and upgraded from 7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before. Its upgraded with no problem before. How do I install Ports? How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 in sysinstall? From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me. OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry) After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working. I TTL's onto the server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this basic task seamlessly! [snip rest of useless rant] Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem in ports that touches Samba. Probably related to your Samba install complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago: bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1 gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1: lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
Re-including the list... On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:14:03 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: Right how can I uninstall back to 7.2? Well... I have to admit that I've never done that. Basically, it should be possible if you install the sources of 7.2 (e. g. from the CD) to overwrite /usr/src. Then you basically do what the Handbook says about upgrading from source, or, to quote from /usr/src/Makefile (worth reading its beginning): # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) This should then give you the 7.2 version of FreeBSD back - removing everything that freebsd-update might have updated. I am not sure if you can use freebsd-update for this task (but I don't see why it should not be possible); in this case, refer to man freebsd-update, especially the -r parameter (new release). Maybe a third possibility is to install FreeBSD 7.2 from the CD (I just assume you installed from CD or have the CD there), without any formatting, just overwriting. But this may be problematic - MAY, I'm not sure. Sorry, I'm really lacking experience in downgrading a system, as I have never done this, so I sadly can't be more specific. Maybe somebody on-list can be more precise (that's why I took the freedom to re-include the list, hope that's okay). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt be able to find and identify and prepair everything that needs to be upgraded and reconfigured accordingly. Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing. No matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com To: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:21:29 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Again Ports? What is that about... I've run the server and upgraded from 7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before. Its upgraded with no problem before. How do I install Ports? How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 in sysinstall? From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me. OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry) After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working. I TTL's onto the server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this basic task seamlessly! [snip rest of useless rant] Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem in ports that touches Samba. Probably related to your Samba install complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago: bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1 gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1: lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
ok so then running testparm i'm getting leopard# testparm /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libcrypt.so.4 not found, required by testparm leopard# From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:27:33 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Re-including the list... On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:14:03 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: Right how can I uninstall back to 7.2? Well... I have to admit that I've never done that. Basically, it should be possible if you install the sources of 7.2 (e. g. from the CD) to overwrite /usr/src. Then you basically do what the Handbook says about upgrading from source, or, to quote from /usr/src/Makefile (worth reading its beginning): # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) This should then give you the 7.2 version of FreeBSD back - removing everything that freebsd-update might have updated. I am not sure if you can use freebsd-update for this task (but I don't see why it should not be possible); in this case, refer to man freebsd-update, especially the -r parameter (new release). Maybe a third possibility is to install FreeBSD 7.2 from the CD (I just assume you installed from CD or have the CD there), without any formatting, just overwriting. But this may be problematic - MAY, I'm not sure. Sorry, I'm really lacking experience in downgrading a system, as I have never done this, so I sadly can't be more specific. Maybe somebody on-list can be more precise (that's why I took the freedom to re-include the list, hope that's okay). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
Anyone want to log on to my server and investigate/correct? From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:29:28 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt be able to find and identify and prepair everything that needs to be upgraded and reconfigured accordingly. Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing. No matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com To: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:21:29 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Again Ports? What is that about... I've run the server and upgraded from 7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before. Its upgraded with no problem before. How do I install Ports? How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 in sysinstall? From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me. OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry) After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working. I TTL's onto the server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this basic task seamlessly! [snip rest of useless rant] Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem in ports that touches Samba. Probably related to your Samba install complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago: bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1 gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1: lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
LOL - now stuck in and endless loop of: Message ─┐ │Unable to get packages/INDEX file from selected media. This is like a poorly written shareware app! Really getting pissd here! From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:43:41 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Anyone want to log on to my server and investigate/correct? From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:29:28 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt be able to find and identify and prepair everything that needs to be upgraded and reconfigured accordingly. Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing. No matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com To: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:21:29 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Again Ports? What is that about... I've run the server and upgraded from 7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before. Its upgraded with no problem before. How do I install Ports? How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 in sysinstall? From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me. OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry) After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working. I TTL's onto the server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this basic task seamlessly! [snip rest of useless rant] Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem in ports that touches Samba. Probably related to your Samba install complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago: bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1 gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1: lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [#24536008] Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
Ah seems like FTP as well as Samba is blocked after the upgrade I have ran FreeBSD 7 to 7.2 using the freebsd upgrade process painless in the past, however.. Have followed the instructions for upgrade 7.2 to 8.0-P3 from the FreeBSD website. As I am not a FreeBSD guru all I can say is the update process is NOT a smooth process as per EVERY OTHER O/S in the open source market. I appreciate the support you have given but whatever you suggest just doesn't work. I am very angered being lead in to believing freebsd-update will be the able to update your OS - this isn't the case. Does FreeBSD want to be a fanatics only OS? No other OS's seems to have no such problems updating. I have even offered access to my server to sort out the problem but no one has offered. I just get cut/copy emails in reply that doesn't work. After 5 years of painless usage perhaps I ought to look at another better support OS? From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 22:02:05 Subject: [#24536008] Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Hello, This is an automated response to inform you that your question has been entered into our system, and will be reviewed shortly. Your ticket has been submitted into the General Support department. We will respond to you as soon as possible. == Please keep this information, and use it when refering to your ticket: Ticket subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Ticket number: 24536008 Ticket link: https://secure.mpcustomer.com/ticket.php?ticket=24536008 Ticket body: LOL - now stuck in and endless loop of: Message ─┐ │Unable to get packages/INDEX file from selected media. This is like a poorly written shareware app! Really getting pissd here! From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:43:41 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Anyone want to log on to my server and investigate/correct? From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:29:28 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt be able to find and identify and prepair everything that needs to be upgraded and reconfigured accordingly. Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing. No matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade From: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com To: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:21:29 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED Again Ports? What is that about... I've run the server and upgraded from 7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before. Its upgraded with no problem before. How do I install Ports? How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 in sysinstall? From: David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com To: Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 21:15:55 Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED On 6/3/10, Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: After being advised to upgrade after a freebsd-update I have successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0-p3. OK but have come across a major problem for me. OK time for a BIG rant this has been going on for 2 days (very sorry) After the install of the new kernel Samba isn't working. I TTL's onto the server and tried a testparm but the error messages suggest I have dependancies missing?! - surely this should be taken into account when upgrading versions - Major schoolboy error on FreeBSD when Linux can do this basic task seamlessly! [snip rest of useless rant] Never come across this myself til now, but it seems there's a problem in ports that touches Samba. Probably related to your Samba install complaining. From a ports tree updated just a while ago: bash3-3.2.51 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1 gettext-0.17_1 Information for gettext-0.17_1: lynx-2.8.7.1_1,1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 mutt-devel-1.5.20_5 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 popt-1.14_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 samba34-3.4.5_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 wget-1.12_1 Dependency: gettext-0.18_1 I guess it's a choice between bash working, or everything else working. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:21:29 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: Again Ports? What is that about... I've run the server and upgraded from 7.0-7,2 with no problem or need to change any config files before. Its upgraded with no problem before. That's correct. Upgrading the base system usually doesn't require you to upgrade your applications as well. The freebsd-update binary updating program takes care of everything. How do I install Ports? The ports collection can be installed via sysinstall. Choose configure - distributions - ports. The /usr/ports subtree will then be installed. How do I reinstall Samba without getting a error -1 in sysinstall? You can first use pkg_delete to delete it, e. g. # pkg_delete -x samba and then re-install it from packages, e. g. # pkg_add -r samba See man pkg_add and man pkg_delete to make sure you're understanding that you're doing the right thing. I'm not sure if you need to explicitely add a version number for samba as I am not using it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On 04/06/2010 12:01 π.μ., Andy Hiscock wrote: LOL - now stuck in and endless loop of: Message ─┐ │Unable to get packages/INDEX file from selected media. This is like a poorly written shareware app! Really getting pissd here! My guess is you need to do some reading first, it seems you are administering a system you don't quite understand. When doing a minor version upgrade (i.e. from 7.0 to 7.2) there is no need to touch anything in the extra programs you've installed (hint: those that come from packages or ports). Minor versions are binary compatible (few apps may need some attention but this is rare). When you do a major upgrade, you will be able to execute your 7.x installed apps on 8.x. But by the time you start installing programs to your new version, you will start replacing libraries of the 7.x system with new ones and the programs compiled for 7.x will stop functioning. My guess is you already installed some packages from the 8.0 media, so this has happened already. The recommended path for such an upgrade is to upgrade all your installed ports for your new system. Most people use ports (meaning they build the software on their own machine, it is quite straightforward and mostly automated) but it seems you are using packages. It should still be possible to do this. Please read the following section in the FreeBSD Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html esp. 24.2.3 When upgrading from packages, change the command: portupgrade -af to portupgrade -af -PP which effectively means: Use packages only And yes, you will need a ports tree for portupgrade to work properly (although you won't be compiling anything). You don't need to keep it afterwords but it is handy to have and does not consume a lot of space. So get one: portsnap fetch extract And after finishing the upgrade, you can rm -rf /usr/ports if you don't want to keep it. You may wish to have a good read of the FreeBSD Handbook, esp. chapter 4 that deals with ports and packages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:29:28 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: Why during the upgrade process the inspecting system shouldnt be able to find and identify and prepair everything that needs to be upgraded and reconfigured accordingly. Because this is the responsibility of the administrator - to decide WHAT to upgrade, WHY and WHEN, and even HOW. The base system tools (such as sysinstall, freebsd-upgrade) do not have any clue about what's going on in /usr/local. This subtree is reserved for installed applications (that do NOT belong to the base system). There are two files you should ALWAYS have a look at when performing an update: /usr/src/UPDATING /usr/ports/UPDATING They continue very important information for the person who does the administration for a particular system, e. g. it tells you that libxyz has gotten a major update and all applications linked to this library need to be recompiled. Surely thats what Inspecting system is meant to be doing. I could come up with hundreds of other ideas what Inspecting system could mean. :-) No matter if it is FreeBSD 1.0 or the prior version to the upgrade -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:33:49 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). Doesn't exist To install FreeBSD from source, you need to install the src distribution, or get the desired sources via CVS (csup). There are examples in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ for this paritular task. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:38:22 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: ok so then running testparm i'm getting leopard# testparm /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libcrypt.so.4 not found, required by testparm leopard# Seems like something failed during the update. Program version and major OS release don't match. This is a reason to install the compat- ports. For example, if you are on 7.2 and update to 8.0, your system will run, but most of your applications wouldn't. Installing misc/compat7x from ports (or via pkg_add -r compat7x as a package) will provide the libraries for compatibility to 7 on a 8 system. It's a good solution if you don't want to recompile / reinstall, but personally, I consider it a short-time solution. Of course, there can be settings where this is your only solution, e. g. if you have a binary that's compiled for 7, and you can not compile it for 8 (because there is no source code). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:01:25 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: LOL - now stuck in and endless loop of: Message ─┐ │Unable to get packages/INDEX file from selected media. Do you obtain data via network (up running checked?) or from CD? If you know which package to install - if you know its NAME - why bother with sysinstall? Simply use pkg_add -r name. This is like a poorly written shareware app! No, I think it's acting completely as intended and predictable. Maybe it's due to a partially failed upgrade process? Really getting pissd here! You lack patience, maybe knowledge, at least experience. :-) But that's no problem as long as you're willing to learn from the given sources and hints. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:38:42 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: Ah seems like FTP as well as Samba is blocked after the upgrade This explains the error message presented. If you want to install from FTP, but FTP can't reach anything, then... well... no INDEX for you. :-) I have ran FreeBSD 7 to 7.2 using the freebsd upgrade process painless in the past, however.. Have followed the instructions for upgrade 7.2 to 8.0-P3 from the FreeBSD website. As I am not a FreeBSD guru all I can say is the update process is NOT a smooth process as per EVERY OTHER O/S in the open source market. I have different experiences, but that doesn't matter here. :-) I appreciate the support you have given but whatever you suggest just doesn't work. Maybe because the conditions aren't meeting the requirements. I am very angered being lead in to believing freebsd-update will be the able to update your OS - this isn't the case. It IS the case. Keep in mind that FreeBSD differentiates between the OS (which is updated by freebsd-update) and installed appli- cations, or everything else, which is updated by the tools of your choice (make update, portmaster, portmanager, portupgrade). Check uname -r. Do you get a version number of the 8 branch? If yes - update has been performed correctly. Does FreeBSD want to be a fanatics only OS? I'm not sure what it wants, but I may say that I'm not a fanatic, but still using FreeBSD for many years nearly exclusively. No other OS's seems to have no such problems updating. I could show you some that have. :-) I have even offered access to my server to sort out the problem but no one has offered. Sorry, I don't think freebsd-questions@ is intended to fix your problems for you, keeping you from learning important skills in IT business. I just get cut/copy emails in reply that doesn't work. For my replies, I have no source where I do copy them from. I write them by myself; copied things are obviously marked as copied (e. g. some lines from /usr/src/Makefile). After 5 years of painless usage perhaps I ought to look at another better support OS? Maybe you should. But 5 years or painless usage should convince you that it may be worth to invest 5 hours to read, learn and repair. If I would be impolite, I would ask you why you don't use your backups to restore the has worked for 5 years state, but I know how annoying a malfunctioning system can be. Did you take the time to read man freebsd-update? I just did it, and found this: rollback Uninstall the most recently installed updates. (I copied this line from the manual page.) Did you try # freebsd-update rollback For safety, this should be done in single-user mode. I'm not sure if this really applies, but I'm a bit nervous anyway, so I do all dangerous stuff in SUM, under least-dangerous circumstances. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:02:44 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: leopard# pkg_delete -x samba pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/share/swat/js' doesn't exist pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/share/swat/js' pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is incorrectly specified?) WARNING: If you will *NOT* use this package anymore, please remove the following directories manually: /usr/local/etc/samba /var/log/samba /var/db/samba That's okay. leopard# pkg_add -r samba Error: Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/Latest/samba.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/Latest/samba.tbz' by URL Ah, I guess you need to specify a version number. There are different versions of Samba in the ports tree, so I think there are also different packages, e. g. try # pkg_add -r samba34 This should give you the latest version, 3.4. There's also 3, 3.2 and 3.3 available (same naming scheme for the package). Anyway, check if you can connect to (or just ping) ftp.freebsd.org to make sure - REALLY SURE - that a connection is possible. PS. Please try to avoid top-posting plus full quotes, or quoted replies, it makes the list unreadable. Thanks! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:15:16 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: OK now I know... Why should I have to know this in the fist place? Hey, that's no problem - I also learned about this some time AFTER is has been common. :-) If Im just as User getting worrying messages about needing to upgrade. Where did those messages come from? FreeBSD 7.2 is still supported and no problem to run. I even know a setting where somebody is using a 4.0 server for internal backups. You should consider thinking about updating more intensively. There has just been a related discussion about this topic on this list. If I don't I am under the impression no security patches will be available? No. FreeBSD 7 (releases) still gets patches, allthough they are called legacy. Depending on what you're doing with your server, it may be wise to upgrade to 8 - or not - depends. The point I'm making to the end user, shouldn't a seamless update experience be achieved? :) Usually, it does - honestly; freebsd-update and portupgrade -af, and the show is running again. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:20:50 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: well surely if the upgrade IS going to affect ANY pre installed package that should be taken into consideration? - Im not having a dig, Im just suggesting how FreeBSD has fallen behind in the User Experience This depends on the users, not the OS. :-) Honestly: How are system upgrading tools supposed to know what's going on in the application area? There ARE tools to take care of that - freebsd-update is not one of them. Of course it takes knwoledge and experience to find out how to correctly perform an update of the operating system AND the installed software, but that's what you learn by using FreeBSD. I also did crash some of my systems by skipping the step think, but it's a great chance to learn, and if it's just how you dump restore. :-) BTW I got an error after the last message: leopard# pkg_add -r samba Error: Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/Latest/samba.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/Latest/samba.tbz' by URL leopard# Have you tried adding a version number, e. g. samba34? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:29:28 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: I have sort of giving up and the cant be arsed Ill put windows on factor has stepped in. Have you considered entering single user mode and trying to get back to 7.2 (freebsd-update rollback)? In this case, you will need to re-install samba (you've removed it); but as you are already in 8, have you tried pkg_add -r samba43? I understand config files and DOS scripting but BSD is unsupported? Well, FreeBSD isn't DOS, nor is it Windows. It's a complex operating system (as all operating systems are a complex thing), and it needs more than knowledge about config files and scripts to maintain it properly and provide good administration. But finally, that's what you learn by using it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:32:56 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: I assume the only other solution is download all the CDs of the latest FreeBSD. Do a clean install and replace the data? It's possible, but why reach for the big weapons in the first place? Did you (1) check FTP is up running, (2) run pkg_add -r samba34 or maybe (3) run freebsd-upüdate rollback in SUM? - This is not a clean upgrade admittedly! I think the OS has been upgraded properly. What does uname -r say? It would REALLY be helpful to see some output of the suggested commands. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:47:57 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: I stopped reading after the line freebsd-update is not one of them. You're missing the best parts. :-) I know its not your fault. But before progressing with technology perhaps support and support while upgrading is more important - especially when receiving alerts suggesting your version is no longer supported rather than failed installs being solved by people like yourself. FreeBSD has excellent support, in my opinion. The documentation is far better than most things I've seen in other open source projects. The mailing list is friendly and very helpful. Where did you get alerts from that FreeBSD 7 isn't supported anymore? Did you take the time to verify this? Allthough 7 is a legacy release, it's still FULLY supported, and many users are still using it. You've received many suggestions from this mailing list, but I fail to see that you're working with it. Without YOU, your actions, your activity, the problem won't go away. Of course, you can just copy your important data, then get the install CD for FreeBSD 8 (or maybe install it via net, which is very common), then install samba, and finally get your data back onto the system. But from my diagnostics (which are, in fact, mostly guessings, due to the lack of information from you, your performed commands and the respnses), I would not reach for such a big weapon at this moment. It's far easier to upgrade your applications (as your OS is already updated, just install the ports subtree as suggested by Giorgos Keramidas - portsnap fetch extract, then pkg_add -r portupgrade, and portupgrade -af -PP). This should give you a working Samba (as well as all other applications upgraded). Always keep in mind: Upgrading a system is something that you should do CAREFULLY. You can run into big trouble if you do it wrong (as I know from my own experience). FreeBSD is a system that does not tell you what you do and holds your hand while it does what it thinks is the best for you; instead, it does EXACTLY what you tell it to do. You can even take that literally. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:58:48 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: So am I lead to believe FreeBSD is mean to be a Mechanics Operating system? I say that in the nicest way. I wouldn't go that far, but FreeBSD, as well as repairing a car, requires certain knowledge and experience, I agree. We are not interested about the uneducated user. But PC-BSD is interested in them. :-) No, honestly, I don't want to insult PC-BSD. Maybe you should have a look at it: It's a FreeBSD based operating system and application bundle, just like a Linux distribution, and comes preconfigured with KDE and many tools aiming at users who are not able or do not want to know about their OS. It's an every day task system that perfectly fits Joe Q. Sixpack users. And I really mean this as a positive statement. You should really take a look at their website to see if this is what you want. By the way, PC-BSD is a good starting point for better BSD education, but nothing is better than building your own system from scratch. :-) or Leave the idiots to Windows/Mac or Linux point and click? Using a real operating system requires real knowledge. It is very important to understand that computers aren't easy, in contra- diction to what advertising wants people to believe. As updating my BSD version has been nothing but problems. Because you haven't fully performed it. To use a car analogy: You put a new motor in the car, but you didn't connect it with all the other parts inside the car, and you notice: Hey, I can't drive this damn car! :-) The transition from BSD 7 to 8 is equivalent to a windows service pack or Mac OS release, both which happen seamlessly. The transition from 7 to 8 involves more work than the transition within 7. I think Giorgos Keramidas explained this better than I did. Just imagine my fun when having to go from 5 to 7! I got 20 years older in one week. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:18:48 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: right scrolling to to top... Gonna go back to VHS here.. Do a clean install as far as i'm concerned freebsd-update only works for patches and not for OS upgrades from experiences or considering ubuntu who's updates works. The freebsd-update program REALLY WORKS for OS updates. It works for patches (i. e. staying within a certain release) and even across major releases (e. g. from 7.2 to 8.0). As I mentioned before: There's MORE you have to take care of. If your applications are made for a version 7 system, and you suddenly have a version 8 system, problems may occur, for example if a library is required that's not present anymore. Have to say after 2 years of using BSD am seriously disappointed with FreeBSD, every other OS perform a clean upgrade except I'm sad to hear that, as it contradicts my own experiences, and surely those of other FreeBSD users. There are users who update their OS and applications once a week, and others once a month; others perform the update when a new patchlevel is offered, and others do stay with the same system for years (install once, then use). How you handle things absolutely depends on your goals and requirements. As FreeBSD leaves you the freedom to decide what to do, YOU have to decide. That's what system administration basically is: Decisions lead by knowledge, experience and facts. With not support to fix online. As I said, the mailing list is not a free support center with support in terms of what you usually get when paying for a maintenance contract. But did YOU already try to fix it? You got so much suggestions of what to do and how. I'm missing your cooperation. It won't fix itself, sorry. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:19:28 + (GMT), Andy Hiscock andyjhisc...@yahoo.com wrote: enough sarcasm No sarcasm in here, just honest and fact-based statements (except those obviously signed by a smiley). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Is there a command to list all windows shared resources. I want to have a list of nodes to come up to make it easy to choose with to mount. Thanks, Jason ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]