RE: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-25 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Trulsson Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:52 AM To: fbsd2 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Subject: Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list For this list (freebsd-questions

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-25 Thread Andrew Gould
On 8/25/07, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the list admins figure that anyone who posts here is an advanced user type who understands how to setup spam filters that work. Ted ___ Or doesn't; but wants to. I tell people

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread Bill Vermillion
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the prominent pundit, on Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 23:19 while half mumbling, half-witicized: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:43:46 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list --On Thursday, August 23, 2007 20:06:47 +0100

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread dgmm
On Friday 24 August 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote: On Thursday, August 23, 2007 22:37:53 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with spam filtering. How

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread Glen Barber
Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with spam filtering. Actually, the list maintainer has already done something to prevent spam harvesting -- something I didn't see mentioned in this

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 01:17:48PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:19:06 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gary et al, rather than filtering on one by one basis, why not just setup your mail server to do the whole job for you, using spamassassin (or your

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread Steve Bertrand
...I will feed... The solution to this problem is...if you don't like what you are into, get yourself out of the situation. Anyone who finds the information on this list non-informative enough to complain about a few spam per week that make it through a spam filter, then it isn't worth your time

spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread fbsd2
It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the posters

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:11:21AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list

RE: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread fbsd2
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:11:21AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Joel Hatton
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:19:57 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:11:21AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:39:43AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:11:21AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread usleepless
It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Eric Crist
On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:11 AMAug 23, 2007, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list

Re[2]: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Gerard
On August 23, 2007 at 10:31AM Jonathan Shoemaker wrote: fbsd2 Why should the subscribed members have to deal with spam fbsd2 just for the connivance of people who are too lazy to fbsd2 subscribe? fbsd2 This list admin needs to get their priorities straight. fbsd2

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
fbsd2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Spammers have their robots harvest addresses from a number of sources, including but not limited to web pages of all kinds and any

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Tore Lund
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Seriously, I can see some logic in removing or obfuscating email addresses in web accessible list archives, but making it hard to impossible for other list subscribers to followup to poster would make the freebsd mailing lists a lot less useful. Maybe so. But we

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Reid Linnemann
Written by Gerard on 08/23/07 10:10 On August 23, 2007 at 10:31AM Jonathan Shoemaker wrote: fbsd2 Why should the subscribed members have to deal with spam fbsd2 just for the connivance of people who are too lazy to fbsd2 subscribe? fbsd2 This list admin needs to get their

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread dgmm
On Thursday 23 August 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not need to be subscribed to post here. This is because it is the main support forum for FreeBSD, and much documentation exists directing

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, August 23, 2007 20:06:47 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not need to be subscribed to post here. This is because it is

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 06:57:02PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: fbsd2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Spammers have their robots harvest addresses from a

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 23/08/07, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On Thursday, August 23, 2007 20:06:47 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Rob
Paul Schmehl wrote: This is the internet. Spam is endemic. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop Bullshit. I've kept addresses spam-free for years. I usually

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Eric Crist
On Aug 23, 2007, at 3:20 PMAug 23, 2007, Rob wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: This is the internet. Spam is endemic. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If your user login is smith, you could have all mailing list mail sent to smitty and keep an open mutt or other reader a click away. Spam could be easily flagged ... . Yes, there are several things you could filter on. However the

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread dgmm
On Thursday 23 August 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, August 23, 2007 20:06:47 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not need

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Erik Norgaard
fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. I have been on this list for years, I have my mail address published on my web site and many other places. I hardly get any spam at all, I don't use

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Pollywog
On Thursday 23 August 2007 21:37:53 dgmm wrote: So rather than look for multiple methods to reduce the amount of incoming to *my* address I should just accept it all and filter it locally? That seems rather irresponsible to me, ANy method which can help stop it source appeaers on the face

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, August 23, 2007 22:37:53 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with spam filtering. How does this equate to double the work for the list

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:10:38PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If your user login is smith, you could have all mailing list mail sent to smitty and keep an open mutt or other reader a click away. Spam could be easily flagged ... .

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Danny Pansters
I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with technical terms, even FreeBSD specific. I suppose it's meant to confuse filters. Do other folks get this too? Dan On

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 04:19:06PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:10:38PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: However the traplist activities are really about identifying spam sending hosts. If a machine we have not exchanged mail with in recent times tries to

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Pollywog
On Friday 24 August 2007 00:22:12 Danny Pansters wrote: I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with technical terms, even FreeBSD specific. I suppose it's meant

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Eric Crist
On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:45 PMAug 23, 2007, Pollywog wrote: On Friday 24 August 2007 00:22:12 Danny Pansters wrote: I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:00:20 -0500 Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it does, because it requires no work on your part. It's always better if you can get someone else to expend energy on your behalf while you sit back and reap the benefits. That's why unthinking people love

RE: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread fbsd2
I get more PDF files lately and a T-O-N of the ASCII blue- pill ads... - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Crist Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:19 PM To: Pollywog Cc:

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Duane Hill
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 at 02:22 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with technical terms, even FreeBSD specific. I suppose

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Duane Hill
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 at 20:19 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:45 PMAug 23, 2007, Pollywog wrote: On Friday 24 August 2007 00:22:12 Danny Pansters wrote: I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:19:06 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to filter on both the ^Subject: A friend has sent you a Greeting card! as well as the body? HTML or plaintext? As soon as I see one (usually different) spam I know there well be

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:17:54 +0200 Nikola Lecic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Important philosophical notions should be used carefully, especially if you want to degrade something. Anyway this is off-topic here. maybe off-topic, but I also ... wondered, and possibly took some exception to that

Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-23 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any spamd documentation that follows a cookbook model? Do A, B, C, and you're done! I've found that a couple examples are worth ten thousand words. Well, there's the spamd parts of my PF tutorial[1], and I believe Dan Langille