Re: Deleted files not releasing their space (was Re: syslog message wrt inodes)

2004-09-24 Thread Duncan Anker
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 13:17, David Bear wrote:

 The problem is that I am running snort and its creating hundreds of
 entries in /var/log/snort -- one directory for each alert generated by
 an IP address.  then specific info on that alert in a file under each
 directory.  So -- aside from the standard log files, the will be a
 bazillion files and directories that snort will create.. I know one
 solution would be to create a separate file system for snort, then
 mount it at /var/log/snort --- that would likely be the safest.  Then
 if it ever ran out of inodes, /var/log would still function.  
 
 
 but then, this is an old box and I don't have another hard drive to
 throw in it...
 
 I think stopping and restarting snort did the trick though.

You could also, rather than deleting the files, do something like this:

cat /dev/null  /var/log/snort/whatever.log

This will empty the file without the problem of losing the filehandle.
Seems to work in the majority of cases.

 
 
 

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Re: Deleted files not releasing their space (was Re: syslog message wrt inodes)

2003-01-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Let's see if I remember the details on this.
 I believe this happens when a file is deleted, but another program still holds
 a filehandle? to it.  Thus, if you delete Apache's log file (for example) but
 don't restart Apache, the space the logfile is using isn't truely freed.
 (This is why newsyslog.conf has a column for the PID of a process to restart).
 
 So ... if you know which process had the files open, restart it (probably by
 sending it a -HUP).

Right.  That's why newsyslog(8) can send a signal on rotating a log file.

I'm not quite sure why this is relevant to the actual problem, because
it's not really *that* many inodes involved in log files, but then
again I'm not sure I completely understand the problem anyway...

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Re: Deleted files not releasing their space (was Re: syslog message wrt inodes)

2003-01-28 Thread David Bear
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 08:27:12PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Let's see if I remember the details on this.
  I believe this happens when a file is deleted, but another program still holds
  a filehandle? to it.  Thus, if you delete Apache's log file (for example) but
 Right.  That's why newsyslog(8) can send a signal on rotating a log file.
 I'm not quite sure why this is relevant to the actual problem, because
 it's not really *that* many inodes involved in log files, but then
 again I'm not sure I completely understand the problem anyway...
 

The problem is that I am running snort and its creating hundreds of
entries in /var/log/snort -- one directory for each alert generated by
an IP address.  then specific info on that alert in a file under each
directory.  So -- aside from the standard log files, the will be a
bazillion files and directories that snort will create.. I know one
solution would be to create a separate file system for snort, then
mount it at /var/log/snort --- that would likely be the safest.  Then
if it ever ran out of inodes, /var/log would still function.  


but then, this is an old box and I don't have another hard drive to
throw in it...

I think stopping and restarting snort did the trick though.



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