Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-17 Thread abc
i am just trying to understand. there are things i don't like, and want to do better. i don't know where else to learn, i do search and read and study whatever i can. i do read with intent to learn. it appears to come down to an argument of: support everything ever made in the world or otherwis

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-14 Thread Chuck Swiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... ] Terminal driver design is certainly a stupid part of Unix. Back when this was written there certainly was a serious mess of terminals which would actually fail non-gracefully on output designed for other terminals. But this is not true today. Today EVERY SINGLE TERM

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 06:41:28PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Re:Starting with Unix (Score:4, Insightful) > by spitzak (4019) on Sunday April 27, @01:18PM (#5819797) > (http://www.cinenet.net/~spitzak) > > Terminal driver design is certainly a stupid part of Unix. Back when this was > writt

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-14 Thread abc
Re:Starting with Unix (Score:4, Insightful) by spitzak (4019) on Sunday April 27, @01:18PM (#5819797) (http://www.cinenet.net/~spitzak) Terminal driver design is certainly a stupid part of Unix. Back when this was written there certainly was a serious mess of terminals which would actually fail no

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-03 Thread abc
> You don't think you're alone because you've Googled a lot? heh :) > > namely, i am not happy with the current selection of text editors > > (i find joe(1) to be very good, but it's got some problems and > > is aging without good development), > 136-sec# ls /usr/ports/editors | wc -l >

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-02 Thread Chuck Swiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... ] Do you need color? Are you using plain text-mode stuff, or do you need bitmapped graphics? If text-mode, do you need cursor positioning? Do you care whether your code runs on anything but an Intel box? over years of coding, i got fed up with some basic things. af

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-02 Thread abc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [ ... ] > > the basis for this question was to determine if it was > > feasible to write a portable FBSD application and/or library > > without external dependencies. > > You can write portable ANSI-C code using the STDIO routines, without external > dependencies upon

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-02 Thread Chuck Swiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... ] the basis for this question was to determine if it was feasible to write a portable FBSD application and/or library without external dependencies. You can write portable ANSI-C code using the STDIO routines, without external dependencies upon termcap, ncurses, or a

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-01 Thread abc
http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Questions regarding FreeBSD should be addressed to the FreeBSD Questions mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing lists are the primary support channel for FreeBSD users, with numerous mailing lists covering different topic areas. Several non-Engli

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 07:29:24AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i am trying to develop terminal I/O based code, > and found myself meandering down a path > to acquire terminal knowledge (i don't > need to be told of SLang/ncurses/...). UNIX is designed not to rely on one single terminal type.

Re: vt/ansi codes

2003-07-01 Thread Malcolm Kay
I wonder with this is really relavent to FreeBSD questions. But in any case here is my 2 cents worth. On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 16:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i am trying to develop terminal I/O based code, > and found myself meandering down a path > to acquire terminal knowledge (i don't > need to be

vt/ansi codes

2003-07-01 Thread abc
i am trying to develop terminal I/O based code, and found myself meandering down a path to acquire terminal knowledge (i don't need to be told of SLang/ncurses/...). i can't readily find an answer to this, but i am assuming DEC terminals don't scroll left/right? i've never used a "terminal", so i