Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-30 Thread Chuck Robey
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Gary Kline wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:27:37PM -0500, Preston Hagar wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 I really like the Dell, both because of their outstanding contrast and
 brightness, no dead pixels in any of my LCDs, and the fact that they come 
 with
 multiple interfaces which are switch selectable from the front panel.  The 
 old
 20 units had 4 jacks (RCA, S-Video, VGA, and DVI).  Really convenient.  
 The new
 24 one, beyond being able to run native 1920X1080 for HiDef Video, it's got
 about 10 different jacks.  Looks it up the web, the Dell pages describe it 
 best,
 and the contrast on that 24 has to be seen to be believed.  I actually 
 turned
 it down!
 I would second the Dell's, specifically the UltraSharp line.  I have a
 19 Ultrasharp as my primary monitor and a 19 Dell Standard as a
 secondary monitor.  The Ultrasharp has DVI and VGA, a built in USB hub
 and is great to look at.
 
 
   Thanks, Preston.
 
   So:: boiling it down to a make and a line, now Chuck [[ and you ]]
   give thumbs-up on the Dell.  UltraSharp, rt?

My first Dell was the 19: UltraSharp (I forget the name right now, but I'm quite
certain it was an UltraSharp).  I was really knocked out by the
contrast/brightness, but even more by those front panel switchable interfaces,
which let me easily connect up two computers to the same LCD, and just need to
hit a button on the front to switch.  Before I put the money down here, I really
did read the reviews, and I felt they came up on top there, which made me feel
like I couldn't walk away from that purchase as being a mark.  I got the 19
models back in 2000, and about 2 months ago (I think?) I finally lost one.  I
replaced it with a 24 model from Dell because of my good experience with the
earlier one, but also because the 24 2408WFP came compatible with 1920X1080
HDTV, 8 different interfaces (two of the DVI interfaces alone!) and nicely done
PIP.  It cost me aboout $650 (this time I bought it direct from Dell, not going
thru eBay) and the contrast really surprised me by being astonishingly better
than the old 19 model (which I'd thought was already pretty decent).  I really
like this new one, and although I didn't buy it, it comes with an inexpensive
addon, a soundbar, that integrates right in, and a really easily adjustable
height desk mounting.  I'm disabled, and I can adjust it easily, and it's 
stable.

I dunno, you might possibly be able to beat the price.  I kinda doubt you can
beat the quality vs. price factor.  I don't like it when I come back a month or
two after a major purchase, wondering if I'd been a sucker, but after this
purchase, I didn't feel that way.  I think  it's a good deal.

 
   A personal note from the cheapes--er, *thriftiest* guy alive:
   for a new display, price isn' the driving force.  it's quality--
   which includes durabiility, function, c.  (actually, i wouldn't
   mind 19+.) 20 [[[ and when the hell are we going to join the 18th
   Century and go-metric?! ]]] 20 is about the max since i cram
   as many xterms with tiny fonts as possible.  so
   brightness+contrast matter.   [[ if i could get out easily, i
   might check out the 24 ... but that would only give me LCD-envy!!
   --ah, *life* :-| ]]
 
 
   Anyhow, ao far, i'm looking at the Hanns-G, the Samsung SyncMaster
   (941BW), And possobily the VIewSonic.  And the Dell UltraSharp.
 
   (gReat if Costco has these; but i'll try egghead.com too.)
 
   Anybody here in the States have any other recommmendation, 
   plese gimmmee a shout:-)
 
   gary
 
 
 Preston
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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-29 Thread Brad Mettee

DVI = Digital Visual Interface (aka Digital Video Interface)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

Basically instead of sending analog signals from PC to monitor, it's a 
digital data stream. You won't get any distortion between source and 
destination.


At 10:56 PM 7/28/2008, you wrote:

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:30:22PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Chris Hill wrote:

 On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 [snip] whatever display i get has to have dual capability. both
 digital and analog-- eventually I'll need a new KVM box.
 
 so what are the top few makes of LCDs out there?
 
 I've been using a ViewSonic VP930b for a few years, and been very
 happy with it. It has two VGA inputs, no DVI. Probably not made
 anymore so I guess that's moot.

 - Replying to my own post like a tool -

 This monitor does in fact have a DVI input in addition to the two VGAs.
 Don't know if that counts as 'digital' or not.



while i can still TYPE today::  the fact is that i was a hardware 
major, not software.
but got shuffled into pporting an f77 compiler for my 
intership  now, i know almost
Zero about hardware, so no clue what this dvi input 
means.   sad, isnt it?




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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-29 Thread Chuck Robey
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Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
so what are the top few makes of LCDs out there?
 
 I have several (6) Samsung SyncMaster 941BW monitors
 I am very Happy with them

I'd never purchased any 19 displays.  About 5 years back, i was in the market
for 3 2- units, and like I usually do with any major $ investments, I
investigated the applicable specs, then compared prices underneath that.

At that time, the 20 LCDs from Dell were the best buy, purchasing them from
Ebay made it also a *very* good deal.  The only problem there is, the little
group of folks selling those Dell monitors had organized several shell-games on
Ebay, running some *very* easy to fall into frauds, so you needed to be really
careful.  Twice, I ran into the game of getting dome shill to run the price of a
monitor I was interested way past what I wanted to pay, then when I let the deal
walk away from  me, the con-people wrote and tried to convince me that i'd won
the Second chance purchase, and that I'd obligated myself to pay the price
they'd bid it up to.

I complained to Ebay, but (as usual) Ebay was deaf about it.  It's easy to avoid
this, but you need to be aware of the scam, which is still operating today.  How
do I know? Because one of those 3 20 displays went bad on me 4 weeks ago, and I
replaced it with a 24 model.  That new model has automatic PiP, too.

I really like the Dell, both because of their outstanding contrast and
brightness, no dead pixels in any of my LCDs, and the fact that they come with
multiple interfaces which are switch selectable from the front panel.  The old
20 units had 4 jacks (RCA, S-Video, VGA, and DVI).  Really convenient.  The new
24 one, beyond being able to run native 1920X1080 for HiDef Video, it's got
about 10 different jacks.  Looks it up the web, the Dell pages describe it best,
and the contrast on that 24 has to be seen to be believed.  I actually turned
it down!
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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-29 Thread Preston Hagar
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 I really like the Dell, both because of their outstanding contrast and
 brightness, no dead pixels in any of my LCDs, and the fact that they come with
 multiple interfaces which are switch selectable from the front panel.  The old
 20 units had 4 jacks (RCA, S-Video, VGA, and DVI).  Really convenient.  The 
 new
 24 one, beyond being able to run native 1920X1080 for HiDef Video, it's got
 about 10 different jacks.  Looks it up the web, the Dell pages describe it 
 best,
 and the contrast on that 24 has to be seen to be believed.  I actually turned
 it down!

I would second the Dell's, specifically the UltraSharp line.  I have a
19 Ultrasharp as my primary monitor and a 19 Dell Standard as a
secondary monitor.  The Ultrasharp has DVI and VGA, a built in USB hub
and is great to look at.

Preston
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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:27:37PM -0500, Preston Hagar wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  I really like the Dell, both because of their outstanding contrast and
  brightness, no dead pixels in any of my LCDs, and the fact that they come 
  with
  multiple interfaces which are switch selectable from the front panel.  The 
  old
  20 units had 4 jacks (RCA, S-Video, VGA, and DVI).  Really convenient.  
  The new
  24 one, beyond being able to run native 1920X1080 for HiDef Video, it's got
  about 10 different jacks.  Looks it up the web, the Dell pages describe it 
  best,
  and the contrast on that 24 has to be seen to be believed.  I actually 
  turned
  it down!
 
 I would second the Dell's, specifically the UltraSharp line.  I have a
 19 Ultrasharp as my primary monitor and a 19 Dell Standard as a
 secondary monitor.  The Ultrasharp has DVI and VGA, a built in USB hub
 and is great to look at.


Thanks, Preston.

So:: boiling it down to a make and a line, now Chuck [[ and you ]]
give thumbs-up on the Dell.  UltraSharp, rt?

A personal note from the cheapes--er, *thriftiest* guy alive:
for a new display, price isn' the driving force.  it's quality--
which includes durabiility, function, c.  (actually, i wouldn't
mind 19+.) 20 [[[ and when the hell are we going to join the 18th
Century and go-metric?! ]]] 20 is about the max since i cram
as many xterms with tiny fonts as possible.  so
brightness+contrast matter.   [[ if i could get out easily, i
might check out the 24 ... but that would only give me LCD-envy!!
--ah, *life* :-| ]]


Anyhow, ao far, i'm looking at the Hanns-G, the Samsung SyncMaster
(941BW), And possobily the VIewSonic.  And the Dell UltraSharp.

(gReat if Costco has these; but i'll try egghead.com too.)

Anybody here in the States have any other recommmendation, 
plese gimmmee a shout:-)

gary


 
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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-29 Thread David N
2008/7/30 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:27:37PM -0500, Preston Hagar wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  I really like the Dell, both because of their outstanding contrast and
  brightness, no dead pixels in any of my LCDs, and the fact that they come 
  with
  multiple interfaces which are switch selectable from the front panel.  The 
  old
  20 units had 4 jacks (RCA, S-Video, VGA, and DVI).  Really convenient.  
  The new
  24 one, beyond being able to run native 1920X1080 for HiDef Video, it's 
  got
  about 10 different jacks.  Looks it up the web, the Dell pages describe it 
  best,
  and the contrast on that 24 has to be seen to be believed.  I actually 
  turned
  it down!

 I would second the Dell's, specifically the UltraSharp line.  I have a
 19 Ultrasharp as my primary monitor and a 19 Dell Standard as a
 secondary monitor.  The Ultrasharp has DVI and VGA, a built in USB hub
 and is great to look at.


Thanks, Preston.

So:: boiling it down to a make and a line, now Chuck [[ and you ]]
give thumbs-up on the Dell.  UltraSharp, rt?

A personal note from the cheapes--er, *thriftiest* guy alive:
for a new display, price isn' the driving force.  it's quality--
which includes durabiility, function, c.  (actually, i wouldn't
mind 19+.) 20 [[[ and when the hell are we going to join the 18th
Century and go-metric?! ]]] 20 is about the max since i cram
as many xterms with tiny fonts as possible.  so
brightness+contrast matter.   [[ if i could get out easily, i
might check out the 24 ... but that would only give me LCD-envy!!
--ah, *life* :-| ]]


Anyhow, ao far, i'm looking at the Hanns-G, the Samsung SyncMaster
(941BW), And possobily the VIewSonic.  And the Dell UltraSharp.

(gReat if Costco has these; but i'll try egghead.com too.)

Anybody here in the States have any other recommmendation,
plese gimmmee a shout:-)

gary



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Hi

I'm a computer parts reseller in Australia (If that actually counts
for anything).

We personally prefer Samsung (3 years on site warranty) for most of
our displays here in the office and to customers.

And please please check the warranty terms, some will say 3 years
onsite, and in fine print, pick up and return, so you'll be out of a
monitor whilst its being repaired.

Cheers
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whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-28 Thread Gary Kline
hi people,

my tube is starting to show its age.  it's a Hitachi superscan
elite 751.   i don't know when it was manufactured but I've had
it for 5 years.   besides it burning watts like crazy, it snaps from
almost-full-width to full-width and back.  it's time to check
around, and as always, i'm asking here first.  

i'm using an old, analog KVM box with four jacks, so whatever
display i get has to have dual capability. both digital and analog--
eventually I'll need a new KVM box.

so what are the top few makes of LCDs out there?

thanks much,

gary





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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-28 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
so what are the top few makes of LCDs out there?

I have several (6) Samsung SyncMaster 941BW monitors
I am very Happy with them


Sam Fourman Jr.
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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-28 Thread Chris Hill

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Gary Kline wrote:

[snip] whatever display i get has to have dual capability. both 
digital and analog-- eventually I'll need a new KVM box.


so what are the top few makes of LCDs out there?


I've been using a ViewSonic VP930b for a few years, and been very happy 
with it. It has two VGA inputs, no DVI. Probably not made anymore so I 
guess that's moot.


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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-28 Thread Chris Hill

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Chris Hill wrote:


On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Gary Kline wrote:

[snip] whatever display i get has to have dual capability. both 
digital and analog-- eventually I'll need a new KVM box.


so what are the top few makes of LCDs out there?


I've been using a ViewSonic VP930b for a few years, and been very 
happy with it. It has two VGA inputs, no DVI. Probably not made 
anymore so I guess that's moot.


- Replying to my own post like a tool -

This monitor does in fact have a DVI input in addition to the two VGAs. 
Don't know if that counts as 'digital' or not.


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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-28 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:30:22PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Chris Hill wrote:
 
 On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 [snip] whatever display i get has to have dual capability. both 
 digital and analog-- eventually I'll need a new KVM box.
 
 so what are the top few makes of LCDs out there?
 
 I've been using a ViewSonic VP930b for a few years, and been very 
 happy with it. It has two VGA inputs, no DVI. Probably not made 
 anymore so I guess that's moot.
 
 - Replying to my own post like a tool -
 
 This monitor does in fact have a DVI input in addition to the two VGAs. 
 Don't know if that counts as 'digital' or not.
 


while i can still TYPE today::  the fact is that i was a hardware 
major, not software.
but got shuffled into pporting an f77 compiler for my intership  
now, i know almost 
Zero about hardware, so no clue what this dvi input means.   sad, 
isnt it?



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Re: whatkind of 19 LCD display??

2008-07-28 Thread Chess Griffin
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:51:48 -0700
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   hi people,
 
   my tube is starting to show its age.  it's a Hitachi
 superscan elite 751.   i don't know when it was manufactured but
 I've had it for 5 years.   besides it burning watts like crazy, it
 snaps from almost-full-width to full-width and back.  it's time to
 check around, and as always, i'm asking here first.  
 
   i'm using an old, analog KVM box with four jacks, so whatever
   display i get has to have dual capability. both digital and
 analog-- eventually I'll need a new KVM box.
 
   so what are the top few makes of LCDs out there?
 
   thanks much,
 
   gary
 

I have been very happy with two identical Hanns-G HX191D 19 LCD
monitors I bought off Newegg about a year ago and I use them in a dual
head DVI setup (they have analog VGA inputs as well). I don't think this
model is sold there anymore, but there are many other Hanns-G models at
Newegg and they all seem to garner very good user reviews.  I like
Hanns-G because they make great screens at good prices.


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