Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread J. T. Farmer
Jim Thompson wrote: On May 16, 2005, at 10:58 AM, Chris wrote: Bill Paul wrote: Ok everyone, PAY ATTENTION! Drop whatevery your doing for the next five minutes and READ THIS!! You see that header on this e-mail? You see the From: line? Go and read it to yourself. Read the name. Say it to yourself,

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Erwin Lansing
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 04:45:13PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: Its' not officially William is it? You have my symphaty, no-one ever gets Wilko right. And it is dead simple derivative of Willem Coenraad. Wilko. Not Wilco.

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Erwin Groothuis
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 08:40:58AM +0200, Erwin Lansing wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 04:45:13PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: Its' not officially William is it? You have my symphaty, no-one ever gets Wilko right. And it is

camcontrol / devd / USB plug/unplug crashes 5.4-RELEASE

2005-05-17 Thread Juho Vuori
This is not quite predictable, but this has happened to me few times every day for about a week now, so I think it's worth reporting. I can also easily reproduce this in less than one minute as well, if you need more information. On 5.4-RELEASE: Take an USB memory, plug it into your system, wait

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:58:04PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: This smells like a joe job, a forged posting intended as flamebait. That was my first impression but if it's a forgery, it's much better than the run-of-the-mill forgeries around: All the headers tally and suggest it was posted from

Strange make buildworld behaviour with 5.4-RELEASE ( amd64 )

2005-05-17 Thread Steven Hartland
Didnt get through the first time so resending :) Doing a make buildworld from a directory other than /usr/src results in the following: [log] /usr/obj/.usr/amd64/src/lib32/usr/lib32/libl.a - /usr/obj/.usr/amd64/src/lib32/usr/lib32/libln.a /usr/obj/.usr/amd64/src/lib32/usr/lib32/libfl.a -

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Tuomo Latto
Bill Paul wrote: You see what is says? It says Bill Paul. It does *NOT* say Paul Bill, does it now. WELL DOES IT!!?!?! Couldn't you just change your name? -- Tuomo ... I honor my personality flaws for without them I would have no personality at all

Re: Strange make buildworld behaviour with 5.4-RELEASE ( amd64 )

2005-05-17 Thread Tuomo Latto
Steven Hartland wrote: Didnt get through the first time so resending :) You did get through to me, at least. (stable) Apparently you didn't get Kris Kennaway's answer either? -- Tuomo ... As Descartes said: Cogito ergo dimsum - I think, therefore I eat takeaway. --

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Miguel Saturnino
On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 20:39 +, Bill Paul wrote: Ok everyone, PAY ATTENTION! Drop whatevery your doing for the next five minutes and READ THIS!! You see that header on this e-mail? You see the From: line? Go and read it to yourself. Read the name. Say it to yourself, out loud. No no,

Re: DEVFS Overflow table

2005-05-17 Thread Thomas Beer
Yes, but how is your system configured? A boot log doesn't show us this. Kris, thanks for your patience! What do you need? Kernel config, boot.loader, etc? Cheers Tom ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Strange make buildworld behaviour with 5.4-RELEASE ( amd64 )

2005-05-17 Thread Steven Hartland
From: Tuomo Latto You did get through to me, at least. (stable) Apparently you didn't get Kris Kennaway's answer either? Nope didnt see that, just looked it up on the webarchive thanks Toumo. Kris wrote: You need to make sure you don't have stale object files (the pathnames are recorded), so try

Re: DEVFS Overflow table

2005-05-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 12:44:37PM +0200, Thomas Beer wrote: Yes, but how is your system configured? A boot log doesn't show us this. Kris, thanks for your patience! What do you need? Kernel config, boot.loader, etc? You claim the problem is related to PPP, so your appropriately

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
On May 16, 2005, at 10:58 AM, Chris wrote: Dear Paul ... I thought the canonical form was Dear John... Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No no no. The walrus was Paul. Goo goo g'joob! DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You have my symphaty, no-one ever gets Wilko right. And it is dead simple derivative of Willem Coenraad. Wilko. Not Wilco. Right? Roger, wilco. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

pkg question...

2005-05-17 Thread Yann Golanski
Is there a way to remove a package and the dependencies that only said package uses? For example, I have package A which depends on B, C and D. Furthermore, I have package E depends on C. I want to get ride of package A in such a way as packages B and D get deleted too but not package C.

Re: Strange make buildworld behaviour with 5.4-RELEASE ( amd64 )

2005-05-17 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've just moved /usr/src to /usr/src_amd64 and am reruning a build: rm -rf /usr/obj make cleandir make buildworld Will let you know how that turns out. Will prove the problem is not with the source being else where if it works.

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi Joseph, Kövesdán Gábor wrote: Dear Bill and everyone, just a little comment: as far as I know there are two countries where the first name and the family name is used in different order, and these two countries are Japan and Hungary. I'm Hungarian thus my name often They are not allone.

Re: pkg question...

2005-05-17 Thread Graham Menhennitt
Yann Golanski wrote: Is there a way to remove a package and the dependencies that only said package uses? ports - sysutils/pkg_rmleaves ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Chuck Swiger
Peter Jeremy wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:58:04PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: This smells like a joe job, a forged posting intended as flamebait. That was my first impression but if it's a forgery, it's much better than the run-of-the-mill forgeries around: All the headers tally and suggest

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Nguyen Tam Chinh
On Tue, 17 May 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote: Peter Jeremy wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:58:04PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: This smells like a joe job, a forged posting intended as flamebait. That was my first impression but if it's a forgery, it's much better than the run-of-the-mill forgeries

Build errors on 4.11 in docs with pdf and/or html

2005-05-17 Thread Bill Vermillion
I had gotten busy and had not done a new buildworld since January. I had a failure in buildworld, and the next day [I do nightly cvsup's], I did a make clean and got the same problem. So I did the logical thing, I removed the entire /usr/src and /usr/obj and re-cvsuped. I again got errors.

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You have my symphaty, no-one ever gets Wilko right. And it is dead simple derivative of Willem Coenraad. Wilko. Not Wilco. Right? Roger, wilco. DES Well make up you mind, roger or wilco, not both of them, jezz no

Re: 5.4-RC2 freezing - ATA related?

2005-05-17 Thread Brent Casavant
On Tue, 17 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 06:40:01 -0600 From: Elliot Finley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5.4-RC2 freezing - ATA related? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: 5.4-RC2 freezing - ATA related?

2005-05-17 Thread Dominic Marks
On Tuesday 17 May 2005 15:58, Brent Casavant wrote: snip You can add a fourth. Ever since 5.1 (my first 5.x install) I have experienced the same problem, again with an Intel ICH5 ATA controller. The symptoms are exactly the same -- the hang is normally triggered during the periodic runs just

Re: 5.4-RC2 freezing - ATA related?

2005-05-17 Thread Brent Casavant
On Tue, 17 May 2005, Dominic Marks wrote: I've got four machines with ICH5/6 chips in, no stability problems whatsoever, and thats been the case since I installed them, around 5.2.1. Perhaps it is something to do with your workload, or another piece of hardware in the system. The

CUPDS reboot the whole system

2005-05-17 Thread Todor Dragnev
Hello, Before a couple of days ago I started /usr/local/sbin/cupsd manualy from console. When I press CTRL+C to interrupt a program, the system change runlevel and going to reboot. This was on FreeBSD V5.3, today I installed fresh new 5.4 but the problem is the same. cups-base-1.1.23.0_3 --

Re: CUPDS reboot the whole system

2005-05-17 Thread Scott Robbins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 01:59:09PM +0300, Todor Dragnev wrote: Hello, Before a couple of days ago I started /usr/local/sbin/cupsd manualy from console. When I press CTRL+C to interrupt a program, the system change runlevel and going to reboot.

Re: Strange make buildworld behaviour with 5.4-RELEASE ( amd64 )

2005-05-17 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Steven Hartland I'd be willing to take a guess that this is whats breaking things but dont know how to best go about fixing it. Just delete it would be my guess but why is it there? Shouldn't it have been deleted by make cleandir or make cleanworld? Im running

5.4-RC3 crash report

2005-05-17 Thread Cedric Tabary
Hello, I had a crash on Dell PowerEdge 1850 running apache 1.3 + lighttpd Traffic on em0 is about 50 mbps FreeBSD 5.4-RC3 i386, no SMP compiled in kernel dmesg atached Kernel is GENERIC with following custom settings : cpu I686_CPU maxusers512 options PERFMON options

Re: CUPDS reboot the whole system

2005-05-17 Thread Kövesdán Gábor
Try this: nohup /usr/local/sbin/cupsd /dev/null The nohup cmd executes the parameter and it will be still running if You log off. The sign means that the command should run in the background, and /dev/null redirects the stdout of cupsd to dev/null. I often use that way and it is fine for me.

Re: 5.4-RC3 crash report

2005-05-17 Thread Cedric Tabary
On 17/05/2005 17:54, Cedric Tabary wrote: FreeBSD 5.4-RC3 i386, no SMP compiled in kernel dmesg atached Oops forgot the dmesg ;) Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of

Re: 5.4-RC2 freezing - ATA related?

2005-05-17 Thread Jamie Heckford
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:40:01AM -0600, Elliot Finley wrote: This has been happening since 5.3-R, I've been tuning different parameters to no avail. I've taken the disks off of the onboard ICH5 controller and put them a promise TX4 S150 controller, but still the same thing happens. The

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:25:21 +0200 Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have my symphaty, no-one ever gets Wilko right. And it is dead simple derivative of Willem Coenraad. Wilko. Not Wilco. Right? Roger that. :-) Don't even get me started on trying to teach foreigners to pronounce

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Chuck Swiger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [17/05/05 08:27]: : I wasn't motivated enough to compare the headers versus other postings, or : to check whether the IP that claimed to be hub.freebsd.org actually is-- : if you control reverse DNS for some netblock, you can make any box claim to :

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 08:17:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi Joseph, Kövesdán Gábor wrote: Dear Bill and everyone, just a little comment: as far as I know there are two countries where the first name and the family name is used in different order, and these two countries are

Re: DEVFS Overflow table

2005-05-17 Thread Thomas Beer
Here we go: default: set device PPPoE:em0 set MTU 1492 set MRU 1492 set dial set crtscts off set speed sync accept lqr disable deflate disable pred1 disable vjcomp disable acfcomp disable protocomp

RE: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Paig Chong Woo
-Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Gary Kline Envoyé : mardi 17 mai 2005 19:38 À : Erich Dollansky Cc : Bill Paul; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!! On Tue, May 17, 2005

Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Nguyen Tam Chinh
On Tue, 17 May 2005, Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 08:17:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi Joseph, K?vesd?n G?bor wrote: Dear Bill and everyone, just a little comment: as far as I know there are two countries where the first name and the family name is used in different order, and

Re: CUPDS reboot the whole system

2005-05-17 Thread Wesley Morgan
On Wed, 18 May 2005, Todor Dragnev wrote: Hello, Before a couple of days ago I started /usr/local/sbin/cupsd manualy from console. When I press CTRL+C to interrupt a program, the system change runlevel and going to reboot. This was on FreeBSD V5.3, today I installed fresh new 5.4 but the problem

Re: OT: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Marc Olzheim
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 10:37:37AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Anybody on this geek list know any other societies where the surname is traditionally presented first and the given name last? Geek list ? Ah! That probably means I'm allowed to say Star Trek's Bajorans suffer from

Acroread 7 port broken?

2005-05-17 Thread ya hoo
I just tried to install acroread 7 from the ports that I cvsup'd last night. It tells me that it is marked broekn. I assume it is broken, but does anyone know when it will be fixed? - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new

Re: OT: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 08:17:10PM +0200, Marc Olzheim wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 10:37:37AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Anybody on this geek list know any other societies where the surname is traditionally presented first and the given name last? Geek list ? Ah! That

Re: OT: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Johan van Selst
Alexander Leidinger wrote: They are not allone. China also does it and the 'official' Germany, but it is not commonly used. In Germany it's family_name, first_name or first_name family_name Both forms appear in Dutch as well (although the first is pretty formal). However, Dutch names

Re: OT: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Marc Olzheim
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 09:22:33PM +0200, Johan van Selst wrote: Other variations may appear as well, but are not very common. You may address me as 'Johan', 'Johan van Selst' or even 'Mr. van Selst' - but _not_ (never ever) as 'Johan van'. Thank you. Although 'Mr. van Selst' only applied if

Re: Acroread 7 port broken?

2005-05-17 Thread Andrew J Caines
ya hoo, It tells me that it is marked broekn. I assume it is broken, A fair assumption in the circumstances. but does anyone know when it will be fixed? Shortly after you install it, fix the packing list error, open a PR with the patch and get the patch commited. To help you get started,

Re: Acroread 7 port broken?

2005-05-17 Thread Kent Stewart
On Tuesday 17 May 2005 11:21 am, ya hoo wrote: I just tried to install acroread 7 from the ports that I cvsup'd last night. It tells me that it is marked broekn. I assume it is broken, but does anyone know when it will be fixed? There must be something else going on. I just cvsuped and had

Re: pkg question...

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Tue, 2005-May-17 22:19:05 +1000, Graham Menhennitt wrote: Yann Golanski wrote: Is there a way to remove a package and the dependencies that only said package uses? ports - sysutils/pkg_rmleaves That is an interactive script that lets you delete all packages that aren't required by other

Re: Acroread 7 port broken?

2005-05-17 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 17 May 2005 12:41:20 -0700 Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 17 May 2005 11:21 am, ya hoo wrote: I just tried to install acroread 7 from the ports that I cvsup'd last night. It tells me that it is marked broekn. I assume it is broken, but does anyone know when it

Re: Acroread 7 port broken?

2005-05-17 Thread Björn König
ya hoo wrote: I just tried to install acroread 7 from the ports that I cvsup'd last night. It tells me that it is marked broekn. I assume it is broken, but does anyone know when it will be fixed? Upgrade your ports tree again. There was a commit today which is supposed to unbreak the port. See

Re: 5.4-RC2 freezing - ATA related?

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Tue, 2005-May-17 09:58:33 -0500, Brent Casavant wrote: The only solution I found at that time was reverting to 4.10, though that is obviously suboptimal. I could be persuaded to reinstall 5.x on the machine if I'd be sure to get someone to look into this. It doesn't work that way. You are

Re: OT: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!

2005-05-17 Thread Robert Marella
I was not going to get involved in this but Where I now reside, the original inhabitants only had one name. Some still do, such as Kamehameha Kauikeaouli Liliu`okalani Ka`ahumanu It seems much simpler. regards Lopaka ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org

Re: pkg question...

2005-05-17 Thread Graham Menhennitt
Peter Jeremy wrote: On Tue, 2005-May-17 22:19:05 +1000, Graham Menhennitt wrote: Yann Golanski wrote: Is there a way to remove a package and the dependencies that only said package uses? ports - sysutils/pkg_rmleaves That is an interactive script that lets you delete all

Re: CUPDS reboot the whole system

2005-05-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 01:59:09PM +0300, Todor Dragnev wrote: Hello, Before a couple of days ago I started /usr/local/sbin/cupsd manualy from console. When I press CTRL+C to interrupt a program, the system change runlevel and going to reboot. This was on FreeBSD V5.3, today I installed

Re: 5.4-RC2 freezing - ATA related?

2005-05-17 Thread Brent Casavant
On Wed, 18 May 2005, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Tue, 2005-May-17 09:58:33 -0500, Brent Casavant wrote: The only solution I found at that time was reverting to 4.10, though that is obviously suboptimal. I could be persuaded to reinstall 5.x on the machine if I'd be sure to get someone to look

SATA378 / SATA150 RAID controller supported by 5.4?

2005-05-17 Thread Rob
Hi, The 'pciconf -lv' tells me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:4:0: class=0x010400 card=0x80f51043 chip=0x3373105a rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Promise Technology Inc' device = 'PDC20378 FastTrak 378/SATA 378 RAID Controller' class= mass storage