Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 12:04:05AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: All, The following is the approximate schedule for FreeBSD releases in 2006: Jan 30: Freeze RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 Mar 20: Release FreeBSD 6.1 Apr 3: Release FreeBSD 5.5 Jun 12: Freeze RELENG_6 Jul 31: Release FreeBSD 6.2 Oct

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Scott Long
Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 12:04:05AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: All, The following is the approximate schedule for FreeBSD releases in 2006: Jan 30: Freeze RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 Mar 20: Release FreeBSD 6.1 Apr 3: Release FreeBSD 5.5 Jun 12: Freeze RELENG_6 Jul 31: Release

Re: mountd fails intermittently

2005-12-16 Thread Michael Sperber
Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Sperber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That looks like your rpcbind(8) process died. Can you check that with ps? Also, are there any warnings or errors reported in /var/log/messages? No,

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Oliver Fromme
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like an ambitious schedule... All my FBSD servers are at least up to 5.3; my laptop is happy at 5.4. I have what I believe to be a rationalquestion. Why should I go beyond v5.5? Because 6 better, faster, more colorful and more fun. :-) But

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Doug Barton
Gary Kline wrote: Sounds like an ambitious schedule... All my FBSD servers are at least up to 5.3; my laptop is happy at 5.4. I have what I believe to be a rationalquestion. Why should I go beyond v5.5? There is one school of thought that says you shouldn't. If it works for

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Rob
Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 12:04:05AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: All, The following is the approximate schedule for FreeBSD releases in 2006: Jan 30: Freeze RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 Mar 20: Release FreeBSD 6.1 Apr 3: Release FreeBSD 5.5 Jun 12: Freeze RELENG_6 Jul 31: Release

Diskless /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot execute objects on /

2005-12-16 Thread Paulo Fragoso
Hi, After upgrade from FreeBSD 5.3 to FREEBSD_5_4 (cvs), our diskless machines didn't work correctly, many applications using dynamic libraries didn't start, this error was showed: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot execute objects on / We found on all diskless machines had MNT_NOEXEC flags set on

Re: Problems with ata RAID?

2005-12-16 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would that also explain the errors on ad6 though? Seems quite strange to be getting errors on 3 out of the 4 disks in the 0+1 array. I'd say ad4 went kaboom and is corrupting traffic on its bus, thus the ad5 CRC warnings.

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Scott Robbins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 02:50:05AM -0800, Rob wrote: Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 12:04:05AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: All, The following is the approximate schedule for FreeBSD releases in 2006: Sounds like an

Re: Diskless /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot execute objects on /

2005-12-16 Thread Paulo Fragoso
Paulo Fragoso wrote: Hi, After upgrade from FreeBSD 5.3 to FREEBSD_5_4 (cvs), our diskless machines didn't work correctly, many applications using dynamic libraries didn't start, this error was showed: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot execute objects on / We found on all diskless machines had

NFS UDP mounts on RELENG_6?

2005-12-16 Thread Oliver Brandmueller
Hi, I'm experiencing problems when trying to mount NFS filesystems from a RELENG_6 server (FreeBSD hudson 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 14 16:59:55 CET 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NFS-32-FBSD6 i386) to either 5.4-STABLE or 6-STABLE clients. mounting works

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Joao Barros
On 12/16/05, Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD 7 We will start preparing for FreeBSD 7.0 in June 2007. I'll hopefully update the release engineering pages soon to reflect this. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me and the rest of the release engineering team.

Re: NFS UDP mounts on RELENG_6?

2005-12-16 Thread Fabian Keil
Oliver Brandmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm experiencing problems when trying to mount NFS filesystems from a RELENG_6 server (FreeBSD hudson 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 14 16:59:55 CET 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NFS-32-FBSD6 i386) to either

Re: My ungodly PF config - am I sane and brilliant, or just deluded and dangerous?

2005-12-16 Thread Vivek Khera
On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:13 AM, J. Buck Caldwell wrote: Here's the fun part. Our traffic has gotten to the point where I've decided that some traffic shaping (ALTQ) is necessary. I've been experimenting with my home cable internet connection (and gif tunnel to work), and I believe I've come

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Frank Mayhar
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 09:57 +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: I've seen reports of a few people who had problems with 6.0, but personally I didn't have any, and I wouldn't want to go back. In fact I can't think of a single reason why I wouldn't upgrade a FreeBSD machine to 6.x. Well, there is

indefinite wait buffer: Does this indicate hardware issue?

2005-12-16 Thread Xin LI
Dear folks, I have a box indicating the following sometimes: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 262169, size: 4096 It's running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE, with two Maxtor 7Y250P0 hard disks attached to Intel ICH5 UDMA100 controller with hw.ata.wc disabled. Does this indicate a

Re: indefinite wait buffer: Does this indicate hardware issue?

2005-12-16 Thread Stanislaw Halik
Xin LI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a box indicating the following sometimes: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 262169, size: 4096 It's running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE, with two Maxtor 7Y250P0 hard disks attached to Intel ICH5 UDMA100 controller with hw.ata.wc disabled.

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Kim Culhan
On Fri, December 16, 2005 11:45 am, Frank Mayhar said: Well, there is _one_ reason. I, too, have (almost) all of my machines up to 6-stable, with the very notable exception of the one that runs asterisk. Unfortunately, last I looked, the zaptel drivers hadn't been ported to 6. I found this

Re: indefinite wait buffer: Does this indicate hardware issue?

2005-12-16 Thread Scott Long
Xin LI wrote: Dear folks, I have a box indicating the following sometimes: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 262169, size: 4096 It's running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE, with two Maxtor 7Y250P0 hard disks attached to Intel ICH5 UDMA100 controller with hw.ata.wc disabled. Does this

gmirror SCSI+IDE

2005-12-16 Thread Ivan Voras
For some funny reasons, I'll probably have to setup a gmirror between a SCSI disk device and a IDE one, and won't have much time for testing. So I'm wondering did anyone do such a thing and are there any caveats. For example, AFAIK SCSI devices are under Giant and IDE are not - is there any

Re: indefinite wait buffer: Does this indicate hardware issue?

2005-12-16 Thread Xin LI
Hi, On 12/17/05, Stanislaw Halik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Xin LI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a box indicating the following sometimes: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 262169, size: 4096 Does this indicate a hardware issue, or some bugs elsewhere? are you using

Re: indefinite wait buffer: Does this indicate hardware issue?

2005-12-16 Thread Xin LI
Hi, Scott, On 12/17/05, Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] It means that either the hardware or driver lost a transaction, or that some sort LOR-type situation happened in the VM that is preventing the transaction from completing. First of all, do you have more than 4GB of RAM? No,

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 06:31:17AM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: A me too here for 5-Stable. I have a test PC, that was running 5-Stable using an additional swapfile to extend swap space. Never any problems at all with 5. After upgrading to 6-stable, I got regular hang-ups of the

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 02:59:09PM +, Joao Barros wrote: On 12/16/05, Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD 7 We will start preparing for FreeBSD 7.0 in June 2007. I'll hopefully update the release engineering pages soon to reflect this. If you have any questions, please

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Scott Long
Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 02:59:09PM +, Joao Barros wrote: On 12/16/05, Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD 7 We will start preparing for FreeBSD 7.0 in June 2007. I'll hopefully update the release engineering pages soon to reflect this. If you have any

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread David Syphers
On Friday 16 December 2005 10:41 am, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 06:31:17AM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: After upgrading to 6-stable, I got regular hang-ups of the system (endless loop?) when swapspace is used extensively. Never happened with 5. I didn't move until 5

Re: Diskless /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot execute objects on /

2005-12-16 Thread Mike Andrews
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Paulo Fragoso wrote: After upgrade from FreeBSD 5.3 to FREEBSD_5_4 (cvs), our diskless machines didn't work correctly, many applications using dynamic libraries didn't start, this error was showed: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot execute objects on / We found on all diskless

Re: indefinite wait buffer: Does this indicate hardware issue?

2005-12-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 12:49:48AM +0800, Xin LI wrote: Dear folks, I have a box indicating the following sometimes: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 262169, size: 4096 It's running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE, with two Maxtor 7Y250P0 hard disks attached to Intel ICH5 UDMA100

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:41:49AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: I didn't move until 5 until 5.2+; it was a major move. There were lots of things to get-right. So maybe by 6.5, 6 will be granite stable. (Disclaimer: I am not on re@ but I do watch the bugs come in as one of the

Re: indefinite wait buffer: Does this indicate hardware issue?

2005-12-16 Thread Xin LI
Hi, Kris, On 12/17/05, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In that configuration, probably a hardware issue. Is it always the same block? No, it's sometimes other, and is quite infrequent. On the other hand, neither SMART nor error has reported some incident, so I was stuck when

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
On Friday 16 December 2005 20:42, Mark Linimon wrote: And, if someone ever wants to write that 5.X vs 6.X vs 7.X feature list comparison, now would be a good time :-) Well, here's a nice start (and a question or two slipped in) - dmesg diff between two GENERIC kernels 5 vs 6 stable of the

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Craig Boston
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 09:20:44PM +0100, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: + Features2=0x180EST,TM2 Q: What are those extra features and are they useful? ;-) Enhanced Speedstep and Thermal Management. They're useful if you want to use powerd to conserve power / reduce heat generation. (load the

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Fri, 2005-Dec-16 21:20:44 +0100, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: Features=0xa7e9f9bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,PBE + Features2=0x180EST,TM2 Q: What are those extra features and are they useful? ;-) This is just printing out the CPU

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:29:39 -0600 From: Craig Boston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -cpu0: ACPI CPU (4 Cx states) on acpi0 +cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 Q: Guessing that's a formatting difference, rather then 6.x not recognizing the states (sysctl

Re: indefinite wait buffer: Does this indicate hardware issue?

2005-12-16 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Sat, 2005-Dec-17 04:06:36 +0800, Xin LI wrote: No, it's sometimes other, and is quite infrequent. On the other hand, neither SMART nor error has reported some incident, so I was stuck when looking on hardware issues, as the message does not indicate which disk(s) may have problem... A

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
On Friday 16 December 2005 21:45, Peter Jeremy wrote: EST - Enhanced SpeedStep TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 Hm, guess I'll play with mbmon to see if this shows more then one monitor (assuming the 2 is the number of, not the protocol version). -pci0: serial bus, USB at device 29.7 (no driver

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Marwan Burelle
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 06:31:17AM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: I have to add my vote for 6, as did someone else in an earlier post. Like some others, I always found 5.x a bit slower than 4.x (No benchmarks, completely subjective.) From the very beginning, I've found 6.x to be stable and

Re: Diskless /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot execute objects on /

2005-12-16 Thread Johny Mattsson
On 12/17/05 06:25, Mike Andrews wrote: On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Paulo Fragoso wrote: After upgrade from FreeBSD 5.3 to FREEBSD_5_4 (cvs), our diskless machines didn't work correctly, many applications using dynamic libraries didn't start, this error was showed: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot execute

Need help with crash analysis

2005-12-16 Thread Peter D. Quilty
I have a Dell Inspiron 9100 laptop that has been crashing lately. It seems to happen when there is a moderate disk load and the network load is 6 Mbits/sec. I can usually replicate it by running portsdb -fUu while downloading or copying large files across the network. I have tried the

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread George Hartzell
Kevin Oberman writes: [...] No. There is no conflict between Cx states and EST. Cx states specifies how deeply the CPU will sleep when idle. EST controls processor speed and voltage. In most cases, your REALLY want to use both of these. They are very significant in saving power. (Of

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Joao Barros
Gary Kline wrote: Are you volunteering to post the TODO lists here on -stable every N months? I think it's a great idea to have some clues about where we're going, or hope to be going. No I am not. But you are right on the it's a great idea to have some clues about

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 02:59:09PM + I heard the voice of Joao Barros, and lo! it spake thus: There have been some questions on the lists about what to expect from release x.y and I personnally have always looked at the TODO list like http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html It's

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 01:42:55PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:41:49AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: I didn't move until 5 until 5.2+; it was a major move. There were lots of things to get-right. So maybe by 6.5, 6 will be granite stable. (Disclaimer: I