On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 01:13:20PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 01:10:19PM -0800, Jo Rhett wrote:
I and many others have offered to work on this. The core team has
repeatedly stated that they won't integrate the efforts
Please provide hard evidence for this
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 03:38:20PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
I agree with Brooks. I don't recall ever seeing a message from -core
(or anyone else talking on behalf of the Project) stating that code to
make binary updates possible would not be integrated. For that matter,
I don't recall ever
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 09:08:13PM -0600, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
Having done full OS upgrades a number of times, I can't remember the
last time it took more than 5 or 10 minutes (during most of which the
When the servers are in 17 countries around the world, with no CD-ROM
access. You keep
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 01:09:04PM -0800 I heard the voice of
Jo Rhett, and lo! it spake thus:
No, you're missing the point. More core OS upgrades means less
incremental patches (which are easier to apply than a full update).
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 09:08:13PM -0600, Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:36:11AM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
On each 'client' PC..
NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj
installkernel
reboot
installworld
Works fine on home computers behind firewalls.
Useless on public servers that don't run RPC.
Useless on flash-based servers where
Patrick M. Hausen, and lo! it spake thus:
Any suggestions for an alternative to NFS if your 'client' servers
are located all over the world and you want to installworld across
the Internet? I was planning to use NFS/TCP secured by IPSec
transport mode, but anything less complicated would
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:47, Jo Rhett wrote:
But FreeBSD Update suffers from all of the same limitations that I've been
describing because of lack of integration with the Core OS.
1. modified kernels are foobar
..yet are practically mandatory on production systems
2. modified
On Thu, 2005-Dec-22 13:17:30 -0800, Jo Rhett wrote:
But FreeBSD Update suffers from all of the same limitations that I've been
describing because of lack of integration with the Core OS.
1. modified kernels are foobar
..yet are practically mandatory on production systems
2. modified
Hello!
1. modified kernels are foobar
..yet are practically mandatory on production systems
Look around. Every major commercial OS does it just fine.
While I agree with much of your reasoning, I know exactly zero
people running a modified kernel of any version of Windows,
Mac OS X or
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:02, Jo Rhett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:26:44AM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
How do you expect these two to be handled in a binary upgrade?
I can't see how it's possible..
Look around. Every major commercial OS does it just fine. Most of the
open source OSes
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 15:44 -0500, Vivek Khera wrote:
On Jan 4, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
What does 'sockstat | grep rpcbind' tell you?
# sockstat | grep rpcbind
root rpcbind11382 5 stream /var/run/rpcbind.sock
root rpcbind11382 6 dgram - /var/run/logpriv
On Thu, 2006-Jan-05 01:37:27 -0800, Jo Rhett wrote:
No. I want a binary update mechanism. Obviously if we have local
configuration options we'll have to compile our own binaries. But doing
the work of tracking system updates currently requires us to build our own
patch tracking mechanism, and
Hi: after the last cvsup, my FreeBSD 6.0, i386 is not capable to start
postfix. I'm using the link in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix.sh to
start the postfix program. Looking in the code, I saw that we need to
change this in a file in /usr/local/etc/postfix/postfix-script to have
the faststart
I have an old Dell Inspiron 5000 (800MHz, 512M RAM),
that I've been running 6.0 since it was released.
It was running great with -Stable cvsupped around
Dec 18th or so. Tuesday, I saw that a problem with
NFS locking was fixed, and I was having an nfs/amd
problem on a desktop Vectra, so I
On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:06 AM, Gavin Atkinson wrote:
Can anyone explain why rpcbind will still bind to all tcp interfaces?
Although I believe this is a bug, it is actually working as
documented:
from rpcbind(8):
-h bindip
Specify specific IP addresses to bind to for UDP
Hi!
Greg == Greg Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg It's taken more than a month, but the problem has recurred
Greg without snapshots ever having been run. I've got a good trace
I think that I have the same problem on a fresh CURRENT. For some
processes I see MWCHAN = ufs and D in the
Jo Rhett wrote this message on Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 01:24 -0800:
You are putting words in the mouth of core@ -
Sorry. As said before, the topic is always struck down and nobody from
core has ever stood up to say we'll support this. I don't know whose on
core this week, nor will I at any
On 5 Jan, Denis Shaposhnikov wrote:
Hi!
Greg == Greg Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg It's taken more than a month, but the problem has recurred
Greg without snapshots ever having been run. I've got a good trace
I think that I have the same problem on a fresh CURRENT. For some
If you are running RELENG_5 and using WITNESS, you might want to try the
patch below. It speeds up WITNESS rather dramatically. This patch was
committed to HEAD in late August (subr_witness.c 1.198) and early
September (subr_witness.c 1.200). It was MFC'ed to RELENG_6 in the last
few days. I'd
Don == Don Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Don pid 519 wants to lock this vnode but some other thread is
Don holding the vnode lock. Unfortunately we don't know who the
Don lock holder is because the message is truncated.
Is it possible to find out the answer from the crashdump?
Don This
On 5 Jan, Denis Shaposhnikov wrote:
Don == Don Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Don pid 519 wants to lock this vnode but some other thread is
Don holding the vnode lock. Unfortunately we don't know who the
Don lock holder is because the message is truncated.
Is it possible to find out
Don == Don Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Don Are you using any unusual file systems, such as nullfs or
Don unionfs?
Yes, I'm use a lots of nullfs. This is a host system for about 20
jails with nullfs mounted ro system:
/dev/mirror/gm0s1a on / (ufs, local, read-only)
devfs on /dev (devfs,
Boy... what a major disappointment I just had...
I got in my SunFire X4100 dual opteron server and a LSI MegaRAID
320-2X PCI-X card. Unfortunately, the Sun seems to only accept 1/2
height cards. Totally lame.
Anyhow, I'm having a hard time finding 1/2 height U320 RAID cards
with dual
I just finished a buildworld/buildkernel/mergemaster on my Dell Inspiron
9300. Upon rebooting, I noticed that gdm seemed to start earlier in the
boot process than it used to. When the login screen appeared, the mouse
seemed to work fine, but nothing I typed appeared. Attempting to use
C-A-F1
On 5 Jan, Denis Shaposhnikov wrote:
Don == Don Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Don Are you using any unusual file systems, such as nullfs or
Don unionfs?
Yes, I'm use a lots of nullfs. This is a host system for about 20
jails with nullfs mounted ro system:
That would be my guess as to
On Jan 5, 2006, at 4:27 PM, Vivek Khera wrote:
Anyhow, I'm having a hard time finding 1/2 height U320 RAID cards
with dual channels (I can't imagine how the connectors would fit,
but hey I can hope). Does anyone have any recommendations?
Naturally I'm going to run 6.0-RELEASE on it.
Jo Rhett wrote this message on Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 01:24 -0800:
Sorry. As said before, the topic is always struck down and nobody from
core has ever stood up to say we'll support this. I don't know whose on
core this week, nor will I at any given time.
This information is publicly
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Scott Mitchell wrote:
Hi all,
I may be getting a new Dell PE1850 soon, to replace our ancient CVS server
(still running 4-STABLE). The new machine will ideally run 6.0 and have a
PERC4e/DC RAID card - the one with battery-backed cache. This is listed as
supported by
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:34:24PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Scott Mitchell wrote:
Hi all,
I may be getting a new Dell PE1850 soon, to replace our ancient CVS server
(still running 4-STABLE). The new machine will ideally run 6.0 and have a
PERC4e/DC RAID card - the
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:34:24PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Scott Mitchell wrote:
Hi all,
I may be getting a new Dell PE1850 soon, to replace our ancient CVS server
(still running 4-STABLE). The new machine will ideally run 6.0 and have a
PERC4e/DC RAID card - the
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 06:09:09PM -0600, David Sze wrote:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:34:24PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Scott Mitchell wrote:
supported by amr(4), but I'm wondering how well it actually works in the
case of a disk failure. Will the driver tell me that
[cross post to -current removed]
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:54, Jo Rhett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:36:11AM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
On each 'client' PC..
NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj
installkernel
reboot
installworld
Works fine on home computers behind firewalls.
Useless
Scott Mitchell wrote:
Hi all,
I may be getting a new Dell PE1850 soon, to replace our ancient CVS server
(still running 4-STABLE). The new machine will ideally run 6.0 and have a
PERC4e/DC RAID card - the one with battery-backed cache. This is listed as
supported by amr(4), but I'm wondering
ml (And, as well, that you do not even understand the role the core plays
ml in the project. Hint: it is not primarily technical in nature.)
For those curious to know how the project works, the following online
resources may help:
A project model for the FreeBSD Project
Vivek Khera wrote:
[ ... ]
The only other aac controller I have is a Dell PERC type which is god-
awful slow, but I hear that's dell's fault not adaptec's. I don't know
what to believe there. That card is quite stable however.
Any experiences with this that anyone wishes to share?
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