On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Ponticello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
i'm experiencing periodic kernel panics on a server with FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE
#0: Tue May 20 19:09:43 CEST 2008.
My big problem is that the system is not performing memory dumping and/or
automatic reoboot,
it
On 6/7/08, Jo Rhett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The question I raised is simply: given the number of bugs opened and
fixed since 6.3-RELEASE shipped, why is 6.3 the only supported
version? Why does it make sense for FreeBSD to stop supporting a
stable version and force people to choose between
Hi,
Has anybody else had a chance to try the gmirror patches I posted here a
few weeks ago ?
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123630
I ran that patch against 7-stable, build flawless. I currently build a
kernel, by accident I made a small mistake. I installworld'd but forgot to
Hello Jack!
There was a problem in the watchdog path, I don't recall if
it was checked in to STABLE, I will check after the weekend.
But, there is also the question of why you are in the watchdog
path in the first place.
I tried to apply the latest patch 1.184.2.3 2008/05/21 21:34:05 which
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:17:20 +0800
Adrian Chadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and users should be happy that there's even a project here they can
get access to without some kind of warez-like upload/download ratio.
Although I agree that FreeBSD's availability to the public is great I
do not agree
--On June 7, 2008 2:16:26 PM -0700 Jo Rhett jrhett at netconsonance.com
wrote:
On Jun 5, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
It's not quite that simple. To do that, I have to block out time to
drive 45 miles during my supposed off hours and do the upgrade
there. Because, if it breaks
Andy Kosela wrote:
Then you can even
remotely mount iso images from your laptop at home directly on the
server (very handy sometimes).
Incidentally, when I tried to use a Supermicro IPMI card for networked
remote media, FreeBSD boot loader crashed the machine (video went
haywire and it didnt
Hello,
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:11:42PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote:
On Jun 7, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
Upgrading your systems to 6.3 takes _precisely_ the same amount
of work as upgrading to 6-STABLE as of today 00:00 GMT.
No, it doesn't. You can get to 6.3 with
- Original Message -
From: Patrick M. Hausen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have never ever had a single problem caused by running RELENG_N.
We changed that only because as the number of machines increases
it pays to run the same software on all of them, and RELEASE
provides a convenient (!)
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:11:42PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote:
On Jun 7, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
This is why EoLing 6.2 and forcing people to upgrade to a release
with lots of known issues is a problem.
People who have issues with RELENG_6_3 should upgrade to RELENG_6
which
On 6/8/08, Freddie Cash fjwcash at gmail.com wrote:
On 6/7/08, Jo Rhett jrhett at netconsonance.com wrote:
The question I raised is simply: given the number of bugs opened and
fixed since 6.3-RELEASE shipped, why is 6.3 the only supported
version? Why does it make sense for FreeBSD to stop
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 11:05:44PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
I have tested if it is working or not without using powerd. However you are
right, SpeedStep in bios seem to be adding some ACPI support which looks
like kind of broken.
In either case, I get error when I have HTT as powerd
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 11:34:41PM +0200, Daniel Ponticello wrote:
Hello,
i'm experiencing periodic kernel panics on a server with FreeBSD
7.0-STABLE #0: Tue May 20 19:09:43 CEST 2008.
My big problem is that the system is not performing memory dumping and/or
automatic reoboot,
it just
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Andrew Snow wrote:
Andy Kosela wrote:
Then you can even
remotely mount iso images from your laptop at home directly on the
server (very handy sometimes).
Incidentally, when I tried to use a Supermicro IPMI card for
networked remote media, FreeBSD boot loader crashed
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 07:53:32PM +1000, Andrew Snow wrote:
Andy Kosela wrote:
Then you can even
remotely mount iso images from your laptop at home directly on the
server (very handy sometimes).
Incidentally, when I tried to use a Supermicro IPMI card for networked
remote media, FreeBSD
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
Supermicro IPMI cards are notoriously buggy. A few of the system
engineers at Yahoo! who I know continually bitch and moan about how
horrible they are. My advice: do not install the IPMI card which is
causing your problems.
The remote KVM control feature was an
Hello,
disabling acpi is not an option, since i'm running SMP.
I have several other systems running 7.0 Release without problems,
so it might be something on 7-Stable.
Thanks,
Daniel
Jeremy Chadwick ha scritto:
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 11:34:41PM +0200, Daniel Ponticello wrote:
Hello,
Sorry, I did not read well you suggestion ;)
Anyway, the system reboots correctly if I issue the reboot command from
command line.
Should i adjust those values anyway?
Thanks,
Daniel
Daniel Ponticello ha scritto:
Hello,
disabling acpi is not an option, since i'm running SMP.
I have
Hi!
pkg_delete core dumps on me when it tries to remove linux-tiff.
I can reproduce this reliably.
nirvana# pkg_delete linux-tiff-3.7.1
pkg_delete: file '/compat/linux/usr/bin/bmp2tiff' doesn't exist
pkg_delete: file '/compat/linux/usr/bin/fax2ps' doesn't exist
pkg_delete: file
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:07:08PM +0200, Daniel Ponticello wrote:
Sorry, I did not read well you suggestion ;)
Anyway, the system reboots correctly if I issue the reboot command from
command line.
Should i adjust those values anyway?
I'd recommend adjusting them and see if the bug (not
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:52:37PM +1000, Andrew Snow wrote:
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
Supermicro IPMI cards are notoriously buggy. A few of the system
engineers at Yahoo! who I know continually bitch and moan about how
horrible they are. My advice: do not install the IPMI card which is
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
Okay, so then your original comment (The same thing happened when
trying to use a USB CDROM drive, so I suspect USB boot support is at
fault somehow) might actually not be caused by FreeBSD at all? The
reason I say that:
OK, good point. I didn't try any other OS, I
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Andrew Snow wrote:
Thats interesting - I regularly use USB sticks to boot freebsd as its
easier for installation on cluster machines/routers that lack CDROM
drives. I've used it on, I think, half a dozen different
motherboards/architectures and its worked well on all of
Jona Joachim wrote:
Hi!
pkg_delete core dumps on me when it tries to remove linux-tiff.
I can reproduce this reliably.
FWIW you can find the core dump here:
http://www.hcl-club.lu/~jaj/stuff/pkg_delete.core
You need to obtain the backtrace, see the developers handbook.
Kris
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Chris Marlatt wrote:
Adrian Chadd wrote:
The project is doing what it can with what people are contributing. If
What if it can accomplish the same or more by simply reorganizing what it's
already doing? I completely understand the apparent situation - if you look
at it
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Josh Carroll wrote:
While it would be interesting to see the response here, it still doesn't
necessarily provide a solution. It will still involved developers' time to
QA the user-submitted patches, so it won't entirely eliminate the additional
workload for maintainers.
Andy Kosela wrote:
... a really beutiful and elaborate post on the subject ...
However, being an ordinary user with few machines running FreeBSD, i
have seen on my limited sample that 2 machines worked better with 6.3
than 6.2 (two old Athlon machines, which work perfectly OK in fact) and
one
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 07:53:32PM +1000, Andrew Snow wrote:
[...]
Additionally, the IPMI card which piggyback on top of one of the
onboard Ethernet ports are going to force the use of something called
ASF (at least in Broadcom land it's called that), where the NIC
Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This thread solves nothing. Two positions are clear.
Also, I recall harder words on openbsd list, with a
lot shorter thread. The whole thing is finished and
should stay in that state. All next posts could be
written, but no need to be sent.
Aha, perhaps
I just checked the link you have reported.
It looks like the problem is present only on SMP machines with both
ULE and 4BSD scheduler.
I can confirm that the problem is also present on 6.3-Stable.
Basically, it freezes before collecting dump and before being able to
reboot.
I wish i could
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 12:18:22PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Patrick M. Hausen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have never ever had a single problem caused by running RELENG_N.
We changed that only because as the number of machines increases
it pays to run the
--On June 8, 2008 7:53:32 PM +1000 Andrew Snow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy Kosela wrote:
Then you can even
remotely mount iso images from your laptop at home directly on the
server (very handy sometimes).
Incidentally, when I tried to use a Supermicro IPMI card for networked
remote media,
On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 07:45 -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:
On Wednesday 04 June 2008 07:25:13 am Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:13:27AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Based on my experiences with
--On June 8, 2008 1:49:35 PM +0200 Andy Kosela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
FreeBSD has always been known for its legendary stability and mature
code base which is why many commercial companies depend on it every
day. The anomaly as someone said of long term support for 4.x releases
only helped to
--On June 8, 2008 4:52:36 PM +0100 Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Just to be clear here, Adrian's claim that if someone else provided
patches for 6.2, they would be committed, is incorrect. The cost of
committing the patch is almost zero -- the cost of QA'ing the patch,
doing
--On June 8, 2008 5:49:20 PM +0200 Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I think it is very unreasonable for end users to ask maintaining, e.g.
6.2 ad vitam eternam. The real stable branch is now 7.* and diverting
effort to polish the 6.* is a waste of time. People wanting a very
stable system
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:17:20AM +0800, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Ok everyone, I think thats enough about this for now.
I think the developers and users have made their points clear, and
they're no going to agree any more (but they may agree less) over
time.
Well, *please* don't assume all
On Sunday 08 June 2008 02:03:33 pm Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko wrote:
On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 07:45 -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:
On Wednesday 04 June 2008 07:25:13 am Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:13:27AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 2008-Jun-08 17:49:20 +0200, Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and it is now working perfectly well without any trouble. The only
gotcha is the slowness of X problem when compiling, but i live with that.
Have you tried SCHED_ULE? In my experience, it does a better job of
scdeduling than
Andy
I am currently using HP MSA1500cs SAN setups on FreeBSD 7 and 6.3
using qlogic cards in HP DL380G4 and G5 servers. I am not yet using
multipath fiber channel which is supported in 7 and I want to test this
out soon. As for Redhat ES 4 and 5 I am also using the same hardware
setup , I have
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Andy Kosela wrote:
Define the terms stable and unstable, how you measure said stability
and instability, and what you are comparing them against.
This whole discussion is really interesting as it clearly showcases two
common trends in computing (rapid development vs
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 06:55:06AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2008-Jun-08 17:49:20 +0200, Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and it is now working perfectly well without any trouble. The only
gotcha is the slowness of X problem when compiling, but i live with that.
Have you tried
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Andy Kosela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/8/08, Freddie Cash fjwcash at gmail.com wrote:
On 6/7/08, Jo Rhett jrhett at netconsonance.com wrote:
The question I raised is simply: given the number of bugs opened and
fixed since 6.3-RELEASE shipped, why is 6.3 the
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Freddie Cash wrote:
Define the terms stable and unstable, how you measure said stability
and instability, and what you are comparing them against.
This whole discussion is really interesting as it clearly showcases two
common trends in computing (rapid development vs
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:01:47 -0700
From: Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Richard Arends wrote:
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 07:45:12AM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:
Hi,
I'm interested in whatever cooling solutions people have...
I didn't follow this thread
Y'know, I've been sort of skimming this thread, and I think a
lot of this time could be better spent by just looking at the
PRs and giving the original poster tips and encouragement for
providing the information needed by FreeBSD to solve his problems.
Really...
-Alfred
* Mike Edenfield [EMAIL
* Jo Rhett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080607 14:37] wrote:
Mike, could you do me a favor and provide me with a set of words that
will make what I am trying to say on this topic clear? I keep saying
the same thing over and over again and nobody is hearing me, so could
you perhaps help me
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko wrote:
On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 07:45 -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:
On Wednesday 04 June 2008 07:25:13 am Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:13:27AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Jeremy
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:48:12 -0700
From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 05:51:38PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
By the way, there is another thing I am wondering about. If I enable HTT
and Intel Enhanced SpeedStep in bios on a
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:13:43PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:48:12 -0700
From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 05:51:38PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
By the way, there is another thing I am wondering
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