Re: freebsd-update and sources of 9.1-RC3

2012-11-04 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/03/2012 05:03 PM, jb wrote: Eugene Grosbein eugen at grosbein.net writes: ... My real question is how make freebsd-update download sources they are not installed? I am not 110% sure, but you can not. When freebsd-update runs, it checks its config file /etc/freebsd-update.conf and

Re: Why is SU+J undesirable on SSDs?

2012-11-04 Thread Derek Kulinski
I personally let it be enabled during installation. I noticed that I was getting errors on fsck even after clean shutdown. After noticing it, I disabled it and the problems go away. Also, fsck works really fast so I don't see much advantage with SU+J. -- Sent from my phone. Please excuse my

Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

2012-11-04 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/04/2012 06:19 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote: There's an existing checkbox to disable it. There was substantial consensus for 9.0 that SUJ was something we wanted Nice to hear. I assume you mean check box during install process? Not mentioned in install guide in handbook. So, after I accept

Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

2012-11-04 Thread Adam Strohl
On 11/3/2012 1:31, Mateusz Guzik wrote: Currently when you try to take a snapshot, the kernel checks whether SUJ is enabled on specified mount-point, and if yes it returns EOPNOTSUPP. See this commit (MFCed as r230725): http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionamp;revision=230250 Ahhh

Re: WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS buildworld broken on STABLE-9

2012-11-04 Thread Oleg V. Nauman
Quoting Dimitry Andric d...@freebsd.org: On 2012-11-02 19:22, Oleg V. Nauman wrote: ... /usr/src/lib/libc++/../../contrib/libc++/include/cstdlib:134:9: error: no member named 'at_quick_exit' in the global namespace using ::at_quick_exit; ~~^ This was fixed in head by r242472, I

Re: freebsd-update and sources of 9.1-RC3

2012-11-04 Thread jb
Bas Smeelen b.smeelen at ose.nl writes: ... Can't this be accomplished by setting StrictComponents yes in /etc/freebsd-update.conf ? Then feebsd-update does not try to figure out the components to update by itself, but updates the components mentioned in Components src world kernel

Re: Why is SU+J undesirable on SSDs?

2012-11-04 Thread Adam Strohl
On 11/4/2012 5:32, Karl Denninger wrote: It is utter insanity to enable, by default, filesystem options that break _*the canonical backup solution*_ in the handbook (dump, when used with -L, which it must be to dump a live filesystem SAFELY.) Exactly. -- Adam Strohl

Re: freebsd-update and sources of 9.1-RC3

2012-11-04 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/04/2012 11:25 AM, jb wrote: Bas Smeelen b.smeelen at ose.nl writes: ... Can't this be accomplished by setting StrictComponents yes in /etc/freebsd-update.conf ? Then feebsd-update does not try to figure out the components to update by itself, but updates the components mentioned in

Failed to attach P_CNT - FreeBSD 9.1 RC3

2012-11-04 Thread Shiv. Nath
Dear FreeBSD Community Friends, It is FreeBSD 9.1 RC3, i get the following warning in the message log file. i need assistance to understand the meaning of this error, how serious is it? acpi_throttle23: failed to attach P_CNT History: This error is following FreeBSD for long time because when i

Re: freebsd-update and sources of 9.1-RC3

2012-11-04 Thread jb
Bas Smeelen b.smeelen at ose.nl writes: ... To file a PR it will require some work to find out exactly what the PR should be about. Since freebsd-update is meant to update the system I don't really see a point to make it install sources (or others things) if they are not present on the

Re: freebsd-update and sources of 9.1-RC3

2012-11-04 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/04/2012 12:08 PM, jb wrote: Bas Smeelen b.smeelen at ose.nl writes: ... To file a PR it will require some work to find out exactly what the PR should be about. Since freebsd-update is meant to update the system I don't really see a point to make it install sources (or others things)

Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

2012-11-04 Thread HATANO Tomomi
Hi all. The point is: There is completely no way to take a snapshot of SU+J partition unless modify one's kernel. Whether some issue still exist or not, how about enabling snapshoting SU+J partition through sysctl variable? Would you mind to see patch attached? 1. Taking a snapshot of

Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

2012-11-04 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/04/2012 01:13 PM, HATANO Tomomi wrote: Hi all. The point is: There is completely no way to take a snapshot of SU+J partition unless modify one's kernel. Whether some issue still exist or not, how about enabling snapshoting SU+J partition through sysctl variable? Would

Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

2012-11-04 Thread HATANO Tomomi
Hi Bas, thank you for your response. When taking a snapshot of a SU+J filesystem we already get the nice not supported error instead of getting into trouble. It's not nice. Hiding problem will never solve problem. Currently we have no choice. If we have a way to choose (e.g. through sysctl),

Re: Why is SU+J undesirable on SSDs?

2012-11-04 Thread Jakub Lach
Imho, at least wiki page (http://wiki.freebsd.org/) on setting up FreeBSD on SSDs is needed. Lots of confusion and different opinions (sector size!)... -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Why-is-SU-J-undesirable-on-SSDs-tp5757733p5757907.html Sent from the

Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

2012-11-04 Thread George Mitchell
On 11/03/12 15:09, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: (Please keep me CC'd, as I'm not subscribed to -stable) I've CC'd Nathan Whitehorn, who according to bsdinstall(8) is the author (not sure if maintainer) of the code. This default has already begun to bite users/SAs in the ass:

Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

2012-11-04 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/04/2012 03:43 PM, George Mitchell wrote: On 11/03/12 15:09, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: (Please keep me CC'd, as I'm not subscribed to -stable) I've CC'd Nathan Whitehorn, who according to bsdinstall(8) is the author (not sure if maintainer) of the code. This default has already begun to

Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

2012-11-04 Thread Zoran Kolic
Just rebooting to single user mode after the install and then tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0p2 works for me. After a reboot then I just removed /.sujournal That crystillized to me as a correct way in this situation. Just one fsck at the very beginning? Manual says about some options available

Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

2012-11-04 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/04/2012 04:33 PM, Zoran Kolic wrote: Just rebooting to single user mode after the install and then tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0p2 works for me. After a reboot then I just removed /.sujournal That crystillized to me as a correct way in this situation. Just one fsck at the very beginning?

Re: FreeBSD 9.1 stability/robustness?

2012-11-04 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:56:45 -0400 schrieb Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: Am Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:14:51 -0600 (MDT) schrieb Brett Glass br...@lariat.net: I need to build up a few servers and routers, and am

Re: FreeBSD 9.1 stability/robustness?

2012-11-04 Thread Brett Glass
At 10:28 AM 11/4/2012, Rainer Duffner wrote: Oh - will were be an 8.4 release? That would be interesting. I'd like to see a trend toward more point versions of FreeBSD. Particularly in 9.x, because it incorporates most of the items that have been on people's wish lists. 4.11 was one of the

Re: FreeBSD 9.1 stability/robustness?

2012-11-04 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! Oh - will were be an 8.4 release? That would be interesting. I'd like to see a trend toward more point versions of FreeBSD. Particularly in 9.x, because it incorporates most of the items that have been on people's wish lists. 4.11 was one of the most robust and stable releases ever,

mod_fcgid doesn't work in 9-stable jails after upgrade from 8.x

2012-11-04 Thread Attila Nagy
Hi, I've just tried to upgrade a machine running an older 8-stable to 9-stable@r242549M without success. It runs an apache with mod_fcgid in a jail and the latter can't start with the error message of: [Sun Nov 04 16:09:12 2012] [emerg] (78)Function not implemented: mod_fcgid: Can't create

Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 not booting

2012-11-04 Thread Thomas Krause
Hi, after upgrading Kernel from 9.1-RC2 # freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC3 # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now the Kernel ist not booting. It just reboot's after the boot loader. There no kernel.old. Safe mode also reboots. What can I do to recover the machine? (It was booting/running

[releng_9_1 tinderbox] failure on mips/mips

2012-11-04 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-11-04 19:42:16 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-11-04 19:42:16 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 UTC 2012 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-11-04

[releng_9_1 tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2012-11-04 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-11-04 19:48:09 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-11-04 19:48:09 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 UTC 2012 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-11-04

[releng_9_1 tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2012-11-04 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-11-04 19:53:34 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-11-04 19:53:34 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 UTC 2012 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-11-04

[releng_9_1 tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2012-11-04 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-11-04 19:59:03 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-11-04 19:59:03 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 UTC 2012 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-11-04

Re: [releng_9_1 tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2012-11-04 Thread George Mitchell
On 11/04/12 14:59, FreeBSD Tinderbox wrote: TB --- 2012-11-04 19:53:34 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-11-04 19:53:34 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 UTC 2012

[releng_9 tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2012-11-04 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-11-04 20:04:49 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-11-04 20:04:49 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 UTC 2012 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-11-04

[releng_9 tinderbox] failure on arm/arm

2012-11-04 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-11-04 20:10:27 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-11-04 20:10:27 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 UTC 2012 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-11-04

[releng_9 tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2012-11-04 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-11-04 20:15:59 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-11-04 20:15:59 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 UTC 2012 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-11-04

Re: [releng_9_1 tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2012-11-04 Thread Chris Rees
On 4 Nov 2012 20:12, George Mitchell george+free...@m5p.com wrote: On 11/04/12 14:59, FreeBSD Tinderbox wrote: TB --- 2012-11-04 19:53:34 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-11-04 19:53:34 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct

Re: [releng_9_1 tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2012-11-04 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, George. You wrote 5 ноября 2012 г., 0:07:00: GM Gosh, I'm SO looking forward to depending on svn instead of csup for GM software updates.-- George It is planned server outage (migration). -- // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org

Re: FreeBSD 9.1 stability/robustness?

2012-11-04 Thread Rick Miller
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: Oh - will were be an 8.4 release? That would be interesting. History shows that every release, since 4.x has gone to at least .4. I'd be willing to bet we will see an 8.4. The branch is still being developed.