Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 9:18 PM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 19 Jan, Mike Tancsa wrote: >> On 1/19/2018 5:45 PM, Don Lewis wrote: And it just hangs there. No segfaults, but it just hangs. A ctrl+t shows just shows load: 0.16 cmd: python2.7 65754 [usem] 589.51r 10.52u 1.63s 0% 122360k

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Don Lewis
On 19 Jan, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 5:29 PM, Don Lewis wrote: >> On 19 Jan, Pete French wrote: >>> Out of interest, is there anyone out there running Ryzen who *hasnt* >>> seen lockups ? I'd be curious if there a lot of lurkers thinking "mine >>> works fine" >> >> No hangs or silent

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Don Lewis
On 19 Jan, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 6:16 PM, Don Lewis wrote: >>> >>> 0(ms-v1)# kldload amdtemp >>> 0(ms-v1)# dmesg | tail -2 >>> ums0: at uhub0, port 3, addr 1 (disconnected) >>> ums0: detached >>> 0(ms-v1)# >> >> What FreeBSD version are you running? It looks like the amdtemp changes

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Don Lewis
On 19 Jan, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 5:45 PM, Don Lewis wrote: >>> >>> And it just hangs there. No segfaults, but it just hangs. >>> >>> A ctrl+t shows just shows >>> >>> load: 0.16 cmd: python2.7 65754 [usem] 589.51r 10.52u 1.63s 0% 122360k >>> make: Working in: /usr/ports/net/samba47 >>

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 5:29 PM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 19 Jan, Pete French wrote: >> Out of interest, is there anyone out there running Ryzen who *hasnt* >> seen lockups ? I'd be curious if there a lot of lurkers thinking "mine >> works fine" > > No hangs or silent reboots here with either my original CPU

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 6:09 PM, Don Lewis wrote: > > I just tried building samba47 here. Top shows python spending a lot of > time in that state and steadily growing in size, but forward progress > does happen. I got a successful build: > [00:07:54] [01] [00:06:31] Finished net/samba47 |

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 6:16 PM, Don Lewis wrote: >> >> 0(ms-v1)# kldload amdtemp >> 0(ms-v1)# dmesg | tail -2 >> ums0: at uhub0, port 3, addr 1 (disconnected) >> ums0: detached >> 0(ms-v1)# > > What FreeBSD version are you running? It looks like the amdtemp changes > for Ryzen are only in 12.0-CURRENT.

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 5:45 PM, Don Lewis wrote: >> >> And it just hangs there. No segfaults, but it just hangs. >> >> A ctrl+t shows just shows >> >> load: 0.16 cmd: python2.7 65754 [usem] 589.51r 10.52u 1.63s 0% 122360k >> make: Working in: /usr/ports/net/samba47 > > I sometimes seen build runaways when

Re: Ancient FreeBSD update path

2018-01-19 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:28:41 +0100 Andrea Brancatelli wrote: Andrea Brancatelli writes: > Hello guys. > > I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into > this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) > > I'm talking about a FreeBSD

Re: Ancient FreeBSD update path

2018-01-19 Thread Don Lewis
On 19 Jan, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 01:28:41PM +0100, Andrea Brancatelli wrote: >> Hello guys. >> >> I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into >> this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) >> >> I'm talking about a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 and a

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Don Lewis
On 19 Jan, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 3:22 PM, Lucas Holt wrote: >> I have an Asus Prime X370-pro and a Ryzen 7 1700 that I bought in late > > Thanks! Thats the board I have, but no luck with amdtemp. Did you have > to change the source code for it to work ? > > dmidecode shows > >

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Don Lewis
On 19 Jan, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 3:48 PM, Peter Moody wrote: >> >> weirdly enough though, with SMT enabled, building net/samba47 would >> always hang (like compilation segfaults). with SMT disabled, no such >> problems. > > wow, thats so strange! I just tried,and the same thing and

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Don Lewis
On 19 Jan, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 3:48 PM, Peter Moody wrote: >> >> weirdly enough though, with SMT enabled, building net/samba47 would >> always hang (like compilation segfaults). with SMT disabled, no such >> problems. > > wow, thats so strange! I just tried,and the same thing and

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Don Lewis
On 19 Jan, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 3:32 PM, Peter Moody wrote: >> >> I have a ryzen5 1600X and an ASRock AB350M and I've tried just about >> everything in all of these threads; disabling C state (no effect), >> setting the sysctl (doesn't exist on my 11.1 RELEASE), tweaking >> voltage

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Don Lewis
On 19 Jan, Pete French wrote: > Out of interest, is there anyone out there running Ryzen who *hasnt* > seen lockups ? I'd be curious if there a lot of lurkers thinking "mine > works fine" No hangs or silent reboots here with either my original CPU or warranty replacement once the shared page

Re: Ancient FreeBSD update path

2018-01-19 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 1/19/18 4:59 AM, Mike Pumford wrote: I've just done a 9.3 to 10.3 upgrade with freebsd-update and pkg. Networking wasn't avalable when the system was running 10.3 kernel with 9.3 userland so I did that part of the update on the console. I have run into this problem with 9.3 -> 10.x

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 4:27 PM, Peter Moody wrote: >> And it just hangs there. No segfaults, but it just hangs. > > yeah whoops, sorry. I had compilation segfaults on my mind b/c of the > linked amd forums posts about gcc segfaults. > > anyway, try disabling SMT and see if that helps .. ? > Strange,

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Peter Moody
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 3:48 PM, Peter Moody wrote: >> >> weirdly enough though, with SMT enabled, building net/samba47 would >> always hang (like compilation segfaults). with SMT disabled, no such >> problems. > > wow, thats so strange!

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 4:14 PM, Pete French wrote: > To be honest this thread has put me off building my machine, the pile of > boxes with motherboard, case, cpu and ram is still sitting next to me > desk at work! It is quite discouraging, isnt it :( From my POV however, I really want a "plan b" to

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 3:48 PM, Peter Moody wrote: > > weirdly enough though, with SMT enabled, building net/samba47 would > always hang (like compilation segfaults). with SMT disabled, no such > problems. wow, thats so strange! I just tried,and the same thing and see it as well. [ 442/3804] Generating

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Pete French
Out of interest, is there anyone out there running Ryzen who *hasnt* seen lockups ? I'd be curious if there a lot of lurkers thinking "mine works fine" To be honest this thread has put me off building my machine, the pile of boxes with motherboard, case, cpu and ram is still sitting next to

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Nimrod Levy
I can try lowering my memory clock and see what happens. I'm a little skeptical because I have been able to run memtest with no errors for some time. I'm glad to give anything a try... On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 3:49 PM Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 3:23 PM, Ryan Root

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Peter Moody
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/19/2018 3:32 PM, Peter Moody wrote: >> >> I have a ryzen5 1600X and an ASRock AB350M and I've tried just about >> everything in all of these threads; disabling C state (no effect), >> setting the sysctl (doesn't exist on

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 3:23 PM, Ryan Root wrote: > This looks like the QVL list for your MB -> > http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ax370-Gaming5.pdf Its an Asus MB, but the memory I have is in the above PDF list I dont see CT16G4DFD824A, but I do see other crucial products with

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 3:32 PM, Peter Moody wrote: > > I have a ryzen5 1600X and an ASRock AB350M and I've tried just about > everything in all of these threads; disabling C state (no effect), > setting the sysctl (doesn't exist on my 11.1 RELEASE), tweaking > voltage and cooling settings, rma'ing the

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Lucas Holt
We have the same bios version. I have corsair RAM Handle 0x003B, DMI type 17, 40 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0032 Error Information Handle: 0x003A Total Width: 64 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 16384 MB Form Factor: DIMM Set: None

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Peter Moody
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Drag :( I have mine disabled as well as lowering the RAM freq to 2100 > from 2400. For me the hangs are infrequent. Its only been a day and a > half, so not sure if its gone or I have been "lucky"... Either ways, > this

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Ryan Root
Have you double checked the qualified vendors list data for your motherboard.  Sometimes memory chips not on the list will work as it's probably only a list of ones they've tested but it might be the problem in this situation.  If that was already brought up by someone else sorry for butting in.

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/19/2018 3:22 PM, Lucas Holt wrote: > I have an Asus Prime X370-pro and a Ryzen 7 1700 that I bought in late Thanks! Thats the board I have, but no luck with amdtemp. Did you have to change the source code for it to work ? dmidecode shows Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Lucas Holt
I have an Asus Prime X370-pro and a Ryzen 7 1700 that I bought in late April. Make sure you have the latest BIOS for these boards or else it will randomly freak out. While i haven't used it much with FreeBSD, I can confirm that I had a lot of stability issues solved with a December BIOS

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
Drag :( I have mine disabled as well as lowering the RAM freq to 2100 from 2400. For me the hangs are infrequent. Its only been a day and a half, so not sure if its gone or I have been "lucky"... Either ways, this platform feels way too fragile to deploy on anything :( ---Mike On

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Nimrod Levy
Looks like disabling the C- states in the bios didn't change anything. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:22 PM Nimrod Levy wrote: > That looks promising. I just found that seeing in the bios and disabled > it. I'll see how it runs. > > Thanks > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 18:38 Don

Re: Ancient FreeBSD update path

2018-01-19 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Kurt Jaeger wrote on 2018/01/19 15:24: Hi! I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) I'm talking about a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 and a couple of FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p53. What upgrade strategy would you suggest? The best

Re: Ancient FreeBSD update path

2018-01-19 Thread Mathieu Arnold
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 01:28:41PM +0100, Andrea Brancatelli wrote: > Hello guys. > > I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into > this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) > > I'm talking about a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 and a couple of FreeBSD > 9.3-RELEASE-p53. >

Re: Ancient FreeBSD update path

2018-01-19 Thread Freddie Cash
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:28 AM, Andrea Brancatelli < abrancate...@schema31.it> wrote: > Hello guys. > > I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into > this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) > > I'm talking about a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 and a couple of FreeBSD >

Re: Ancient FreeBSD update path

2018-01-19 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into > this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) > > I'm talking about a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 and a couple of FreeBSD > 9.3-RELEASE-p53. > > What upgrade strategy would you suggest? The best way is to update stepwise

Re: Ancient FreeBSD update path

2018-01-19 Thread Mike Pumford
On 19/01/2018 12:28, Andrea Brancatelli wrote: Hello guys. I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) I'm talking about a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 and a couple of FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p53. I've just done a 9.3 to 10.3 upgrade

Ancient FreeBSD update path

2018-01-19 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Hello guys. I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) I'm talking about a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 and a couple of FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p53. What upgrade strategy would you suggest? Direct jump into the future (8 -> 11)?