Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
7492 was just >>>>> committed to "main" by rscheff@ with a two week MFC, so it >>>>> should be in stable/13 soon. Not sure if an errata can be done >>>>> for it for releng13.0? >>>> >>>> That update is reported to be

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ted to be causing "rack" related panics: >>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/dev-commits-src-main/2021-May/004440.html >>> >>> reports (via links): >>> >>> panic: _mtx_lock_sleep: recursed on non-recursive mutex so_snd @ >>&

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
aller/managers/i386/kernel/sys/modules/tcp/rack/../../../netinet/tcp_stacks/rack.c:10632 >> >> Still, I have a non-debug update to main building and will >> likely do a debug build as well. llvm is rebuilding, so >> the builds will take a notable time. I got the following built

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
so the builds will take a notable time. > Thanks for isolating this, rick > ps: Co-incidentally, I've been thinking of buying an RBPi4 as a toy. I'll warn that the primary "small arm" development/support folk(s) do not work on the RPi*'s these days, beyond committing what others provide and

odd behaviour using lagg on bridge

2021-05-21 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
Hi List, I’m observing some odd behaviour after I decided to put the 2 interfaces in my system into a lagg failover bond - Can’t add the lagg to a bridge, it will say: $ sudo ifconfig vm-public addm lagg0 ifconfig: BRDGADD lagg0: Device busy I also witnessed that starting a vm after having it

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context) [RPi4B genet0 involved in problem]

2021-05-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
et0 or its supporting software is contributing to the problems that I had reported. It is interesting that there were no examples of the content of files reporting a mismatch, just some file names/paths not finding matches, some with truncated names or obvious-garbage bytes in names. Note: T

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ain vs. stable/13 vs. release/13.0.0 based? Is it okay to stick to the base version things are now based on --or do you want me to update to more recent? (That last only applies if main or stable/13 is to be put to use.) > . . . old history deleted . . . === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-o

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
t; I'll have to figure out how to experiment with such. Things >>> are at defaults rather generally on the systems. I'm not >>> literate in the subject areas. >>> >>> I'm the only user of the machines and network. It is not >>> outward facing. It is

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
they are often broken >>> in various network device drivers. >> >> I'll have to figure out how to experiment with such. Things >> are at defaults rather generally on the systems. I'm not >> literate in the subject areas. >> >> I'm the only user of the machines an

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
t; literate in the subject areas. > > I'm the only user of the machines and network. It is not > outward facing. It is a rather small EtherNet network. > >> rick >> >> ____ >> From: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org on >> behal

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
faults rather generally on the systems. I'm not literate in the subject areas. I'm the only user of the machines and network. It is not outward facing. It is a rather small EtherNet network. > rick > > ________ > From: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org on > b

releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
odd result of the diff -r no longer happened: no differences reported. For reference (both machines reported): # uname -apKU FreeBSD CA72_16Gp_ZFS 13.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE #0 releng/13.0-n244733-ea31abc261ff-dirty: Thu Apr 29 21:53:20 PDT 2021 root@CA72_4c8G_ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/13_0R-CA72-n

Re: ENOTCAPABLE returned without Capsicum

2021-05-15 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-16 11:48:24 +1000, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable wrote: >I am running 13-stable from a couple of weeks ago, without Capsicum >(neither CAPABILITY_MODE nor CAPABILITIES are specified in my kernel). >Despite this, I am getting Capsicum-related errors. As an example: &g

ENOTCAPABLE returned without Capsicum

2021-05-15 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
, it seems that there's a non-trivial amount of code in kern/vfs_lookup.c that's capable of returning capability-related errors but isn't protected by CAPABILITY_MODE. This seems undesirable since it means that FreeBSD is defaulting to being locked down but unless I build it with Capsicum, ther

fileargs_init(3) doesn't work without CAPABILITIES (was: Re: tail(1) broken in 13-stable)

2021-05-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-06 19:07:23 -0400, monochrome wrote: ... >On 5/6/21 7:49 AM, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable wrote: ... >> server% tail /COPYRIGHT <&- >> Assertion failed: (procfd > STDERR_FILENO), function service_clean, file >> /usr/src/lib/libcasper/libcasper/servi

Fresh releng/13.0 release/13.0.0 install: "newsyslog: malformed 'at' value" messages

2021-05-06 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
of the content in: # more /etc/newsyslog.conf # configuration file for newsyslog # $FreeBSD$ # # Entries which do not specify the '/pid_file' field will cause the # syslogd process to be signalled when that log file is rotated. This # action is only appropriate for log files which are written

Re: tail(1) broken in 13-stable

2021-05-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-06 12:59:54 +0200, Mariusz Zaborski wrote: >Could you provide details how to reproduce this? > >On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 12:13, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable > wrote: >> >> Since updating from 12-stable to 13-stable, I've found that tail(1) >> crashes,

tail(1) broken in 13-stable

2021-05-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
Since updating from 12-stable to 13-stable, I've found that tail(1) crashes, reporting: Assertion failed: (procfd > STDERR_FILENO), function service_clean, file /usr/src/lib/libcasper/libcasper/service.c, line 394. tail: unable to init casper: Socket is not connected unless all three of stdin,

Re: zpool list -p 's FREE vs. zfs list -p's AVAIL ? FREE-AVAIL == 6_675_374_080 (199G zroot pool)

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-5, at 17:01, Yuri Pankov wrote: > Mark Millard via freebsd-current wrote: >> Context: >> >> # gpart show -pl da0 >> => 40 468862048da0 GPT (224G) >> 40 532480 da0p1 efiboot0 (260M) >> 532520 2

zpool list -p 's FREE vs. zfs list -p's AVAIL ? FREE-AVAIL == 6_675_374_080 (199G zroot pool)

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
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Re: ZFS rename with associated snapshot present: odd error message

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-5, at 05:28, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-5, at 02:47, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> On 05/05/2021 01:59, Mark Millard via freebsd-current wrote: >>> I had a: >>> # zfs list -tall >>> NAME USED AVAIL

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [aarch64 test did not reproduce the issue]

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
(so: armv7) from aarch64' test > next. That was the context for the original discovery and > report. > > The armv7 builds and installs get the same sort of diff results as the aarch64 ones. So it does not look like I can readily reproduce the problem files that had differences. Given the time it takes to run the experiments, I would not expect to reproduce the problem on any given timescale. I'll stop the reporting as I go along in my activities --unless I end up with a repetition of the problem. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: ZFS rename with associated snapshot present: odd error message

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-5, at 02:47, Andriy Gapon wrote: > On 05/05/2021 01:59, Mark Millard via freebsd-current wrote: >> I had a: >> # zfs list -tall >> NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT >> . . . >> zroot/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA72

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [aarch64 test did not reproduce the issue]

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
toolchain metadata from build at CA72_4c8G_ZFS on Tue May 4 10:55:26 PDT 2021 +.info Using cached toolchain metadata from build at CA72_4c8G_ZFS on Tue May 4 16:14:24 PDT 2021 _LOADED_TOOLCHAIN_METADATA=t COMPILER_VERSION=110001 X_COMPILER_VERSION=110001 I may run a 'target cortex-a7 (so

ZFS rename with associated snapshot present: odd error message

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
name -apKU FreeBSD CA72_4c8G_ZFS 13.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE #0 releng/13.0-n244733-ea31abc261ff-dirty: Thu Apr 29 21:53:20 PDT 2021 root@CA72_4c8G_ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/13_0R-CA72-nodbg-clang/usr/13_0R-src/arm64.aarch64/sys/GENERIC-NODBG-CA72 arm64 aarch64 1300139 1300139 === Mark Milla

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [Ignore recent test: -dirty vs. checked-in usage difference]

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
lly discovered the presence of the few files with differences. My new experiments were different and I'd not though of needing to vary the procedure to get you the right evidence. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)

diffoscope's odd UnicodeDecodeError error message: reason found

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ad return loads(fp.read(), File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/codecs.py", line 504, in read newchars, decodedbytes = self.decode(data, self.errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb7 in position 18: invalid start byte Not exactly an obvious error message for the issue. === Mark

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [Ignore recent test: -dirty vs. checked-in usage difference]

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
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Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
.strtab STRTAB 51c8 0363 0 0 1 > 50c4-50b8 == 0xC Note: 0xC+0x4 == 0x10 (the size), so the last 4 bytes of .gnu_debuglink > For all I know, some individual byte(s) in the 4 might accid

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
match sometimes. The addition offset after .gnu_debuglink's file offset does vary (0xC and 0x10 above). The content of those differences do not look like file path components, for example the 0x08 byte. I do build with: # Avoid stripping but do not control host -g status as well: DEBUG_FLAGS+= # WITH_REPRODUCIBL

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
self.decode(data, self.errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb7 in position 18: invalid start byte === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-3, at 21:27, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-3, at 19:26, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On 2021-May-3, at 10:51, Mark Millard wrote: >> >>> On 2021-May-3, at 07:47, Ed Maste wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 02:

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-3, at 19:26, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-3, at 10:51, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On 2021-May-3, at 07:47, Ed Maste wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 02:50, Mark Millard via freebsd-current >>> wrote: >>>> >>

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-3, at 10:51, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-3, at 07:47, Ed Maste wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 02:50, Mark Millard via freebsd-current >> wrote: >>> >>> Files /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-chroot/sbin/ping and >>> /usr

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-3, at 07:47, Ed Maste wrote: > On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 02:50, Mark Millard via freebsd-current > wrote: >> >> Files /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-chroot/sbin/ping and >> /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-poud/sbin/ping differ >> Files /usr/obj/DESTDI

Re: Slow iSCSI discovery on boot halting the boot process.

2021-04-30 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
On 2021-04-30 11:12, Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote: > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Andrea Brancatelli via > freebsd-stable wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm having an annoying problem with FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p6, iscsid, >> geom mul

Re: Slow iSCSI discovery on boot halting the boot process.

2021-04-30 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Hello, On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having an annoying problem with FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p6, iscsid, > geom multiparty, a Dell MD3200i and fstab. > > Long story short, iSCSI login/connection/whate

Re: Slow iSCSI discovery on boot halting the boot process.

2021-04-30 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
On 2021-04-30 10:29, Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having an annoying problem with FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p6, iscsid, > geom multiparty, a Dell MD3200i and fstab. Geom multiparty is probably the best typo/autocorrect ever. --- Andrea

Slow iSCSI discovery on boot halting the boot process.

2021-04-30 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
Hello, I'm having an annoying problem with FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p6, iscsid, geom multiparty, a Dell MD3200i and fstab. Long story short, iSCSI login/connection/whatever is slower than the boot process and the machine always get stuck with "cannot find /san_storage (/dev/multipath/...) p

FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-04-29 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
I did 2 test buildworld's based on: # ~/fbsd-based-on-what-freebsd.sh branch: releng/13.0 merge-base: ea31abc261ffc01b6ff5671bffb15cf910a07f4b merge-base: CommitDate: 2021-04-09 00:14:30 + ea31abc261ff (HEAD -> releng/13.0, tag: release/13.0.0, freebsd/releng/13.0) 13.0: update to RELE

Re: Updated to 13-STABLE in VirtualBox; on shutdown stuck after uhub[01] being detached

2021-04-28 Thread parv/freebsd
(Changed my email address to the one I used to subscribe to the mailing list.) On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:05 AM Guido Falsi wrote: Hi, On 28/04/21 00:12, parv wrote: > > I had updated FreeBSD, in VirtualBox 5.22 on Windows with EFI, from > > 12-STABLE > > to 13-STABLE; upgr

Re: Updated to 13-STABLE in VirtualBox; on shutdown stuck after uhub[01] being detached

2021-04-28 Thread Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable
On 28/04/21 00:12, parv wrote: Hi there, I had updated FreeBSD, in VirtualBox 5.22 on Windows with EFI, from 12-STABLE to 13-STABLE; upgraded the ZFS pools & the EFI boot loader. Currently testing with 13 GENERIC kernel. You mean you enabled EFI inside virtualbox? Why do you need that?

Re: iPhone tethering not working

2021-04-26 Thread 宋立杰 via freebsd-stable
tly the same behavior on iOS 14 without that patch so upgrading to > a newer version might help. > > Best, > Li-Wen Sorry, I made another mistake , this is my first time to use a mailing list. Applying the 12.2-RELEASE-p6 patch doesn’t seem to work, how can I transfer to

Re: (D29934) Reorder commented steps in UPDATING following sequential order. (was: etcupdate -p vs. root on zfs (and bectl use and such): no /usr/src/etc/master.passwd (for example))

2021-04-25 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Apr-25, at 08:14, Graham Perrin wrote: > On 23/04/2021 08:39, Mark Millard via freebsd-current wrote: > >> [3] > > > With regard to mounting ZFS file systems in single user mode > > What's currently footnote 3 will probabl

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 terrible performance in KVM

2021-04-25 Thread dashdruid via freebsd-stable
Hello, I have reinstalled it with GPT/ZFS and your right it's much better. Same search taking 3-6 seconds so I have deleted now all my old UFS based FreeBSD images. I wonder how I didn't notice this earlier because I had 12.0, 12.2 base images and now that I retested them they had the exact

iPhone tethering not working

2021-04-24 Thread 宋立杰 via freebsd-stable
 I tried to connect my iPhone SE2 (iOS 13.7) to FreeBSD 12.2-stable. After loaded the kernel module if_ipheth, I connected my phone. > ugen0.2: at usbus0 Then I typed usbconfig -u 0 -a 2 set_config 3 > ipeth0 on uhub6 > Ipeth0: on usbus0 Then I chose to trust the computer, bu

Despite the documentation, "etcupdate extract" handles -D destdir (and its contribution to the default workdir)

2021-04-24 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
j/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-for-chroot/var/db/etcupdate/ I have not checked on if "etcupdate build" has a similar issue vs. not. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 terrible performance in KVM

2021-04-24 Thread Bane Ivosev via freebsd-stable
We have over 50 FreeBSD VM on KVM for years, several Proxmox (5x,6x) and Centos (6.x,7.x) servers, and never experienced performance problem like this. Your example on fresh new 13 VM: # time -p find / -name cacert.pem real 0.28 user 0.00 sys 0.13 12.2 our syslog server: # time -p find

FreeBSD 13.0 terrible performance in KVM

2021-04-24 Thread dashdruid via freebsd-stable
Hello List, I hope some other folks out there running FreeBSD on KVM as well. I set up a base VM while doing so I noticed that the disk operations are very slow. Many times I edit a file in vim or try to run a command there is a huge lag. I use UFS as the root filesystem. To have something

https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/?C=M=D messed up dates and HASHID-only use make things extremely hard to find "in time order"

2021-04-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/n??-HASHID/ where the ?? is from: git rev-list --first-parent --count (as used elsewhere by FreeBSD). (The HASHID might be just the 12 character prefix instead of the whole hash-id as well.) Such a convention would be more independent of dates possibly being

Re: zfs native encryption best practices on RELENG13

2021-04-23 Thread Xin Li via freebsd-stable
find for native OpenZFS encryption on FreeBSD > > i.e box gets rebooted, enter in passphrase to allow it to boot kind of > thing from the boot loader prompt ? I think loader do not support the native OpenZFS encryption yet. However, you can encrypt non-essential datasets on a boot pool (that is,

Is stable/13 going to start getting snapshot builds?

2021-04-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
Is stable/13 going to start getting snapshot builds? (As stands, main , stable/12 , and stable/11 are getting them.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https

etcupdate -p vs. root on zfs (and bectl use and such): no /usr/src/etc/master.passwd (for example)

2021-04-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ng / writable at this stage either.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send an

AR9462 runs only at 11g mode

2021-04-18 Thread 宋立杰 via freebsd-stable
 I newly installed FreeBSD 12.2-release, but I found my wireless card Dell 1901(AR9462) work only at 11g and not steadily . "Failed to add supported operating classes IE" occurs occasionally, why? _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing

13.0-RELEASE bsdinstall failure : looked for MANIFEST in wrong place (not with *.txz files)

2021-04-17 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
Booted RPi4 via micrsd card dd'd from: FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-arm64-aarch64-RPI.img I attempted a bsdinstall onto a USB3 SSD. The following reports what happened. # bsdinstall default keymap Select Hostname OK ftp mirror OK Auto (ZFS) OK Install Select stripe OK [*] da0 OK Last Chance! da0 YES

Re: freebsd-update and speed

2021-04-16 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
On 2021-04-15 14:20, Ferdinand Goldmann wrote: > I've noticed that ever since update3.freebsd.org is gone (which was in Czech > republic I think), FreeBSD updates are often quite slow for me (= > Austria/Europe) > Especially so for major release upgrades. In fact so slow that

Re: Deprecating base system ftpd

2021-04-10 Thread Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable
On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 07:32:12 +0900 aventa...@fastmail.fm wrote: >It makes me think that there should be an offering for two completely >different audiences: >(1) FreeBSD core (a very minimal offering for folks that want to build things, >like a Desktop, etc.) >(2)

Re: Vinum deprecation for FreeBSD 14 - are there any remaining Vinum users?

2021-04-09 Thread Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable
Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 07.04.2021 12:49, Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable wrote: > > > At least w.r.t. gvinum's raid5, I can attest that the kernel panics > > are real. Before settling on ZFS raidz2 for my largest storage pool, I > > experimented with gstripe(

Re: Vinum deprecation for FreeBSD 14 - are there any remaining Vinum users?

2021-04-06 Thread Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable
Ed, On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 13:25:44 -0400 Ed Maste wrote: >Vinum is a Logical Volume Manager that was introduced in FreeBSD 3.0, >and for FreeBSD 5 was ported to geom(4) as gvinum. gvinum has had no >specific development at least as far back as 2010 and it is not clear >how well it

Re: Portsnap no updates since 3/31/2021 ?

2021-04-06 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable
> On Apr 6, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Gary Palmer wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 06:49:17AM -0400, Robert Blayzor via freebsd-stable > wrote: >> I have several servers running 11.4 and 12.2 that do nightly portsnap >> updates and the last time they've seen anything

Portsnap no updates since 3/31/2021 ?

2021-04-06 Thread Robert Blayzor via freebsd-stable
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Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-06 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
On 2021-04-05 02:05, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote: > My vote is for no. > > Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop? By continuously moving > stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel.  I strongly agree with this consideration.

Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable
spares on-site for less than what a year of SmartNet coverage would cost. My server platform of choice when I want a “support server” for this old stuff has always been FreeBSD. Stock tftpd and ftpd are wonderful, and anyone professing that those two tiny daemons are “bloat” just hasn’t used Lin

Re: FreeBSD 13.0-RC5 Now Available

2021-04-05 Thread Robert Blayzor via freebsd-stable
I don't know, ask yourself that, you did the same thing On 4/4/21 6:21 PM, Glen Barber wrote: Is it necessary to quote the*entire* email (including checksums)? Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. ___ freebsd

Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-05 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
> On 3 Apr 2021, at 22:39, Ed Maste wrote: > > I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system > before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447 > (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page. > I had originally planned to try to d

Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-04 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable
> On Apr 4, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable > wrote: > > My vote is for no. > > Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop? By continuously moving > stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel.  That’s a +1 her

Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-04 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
My vote is for no. Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop?  By continuously moving stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel.  On 4/3/2021 4:39 PM, Ed Maste wrote: I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system before FreeBSD 14

Re: ZFS (in virtual machine): $HOME being a dataset causes xauth to timeout- access delays?

2021-04-01 Thread parv/freebsd
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 3:38 PM parv/freebsd wrote: I am wondering if $SRC_BASE, $MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX, & $WRKDIRPREFIX being ZFS datasets now would increase compile time. I will found that out in few weeks (in case of buildworld & kernel) as earlier I had both $SRC_BASE & $MAKEOBJDIRPRE

ZFS (in virtual machine): $HOME being a dataset causes xauth to timeout- access delays?

2021-04-01 Thread parv/freebsd
Hi there, I have FreeBSD 12-STABLE in VirtualBox 5.2.44 on Windows 10. All the "disks" are file-backed virtual disks. I noticed that after making $HOME a ZFS dataset, there were delays ... - generally in start of Xorg; - exhibited by xauth (after using "startx") error me

Re: Update to the 13.0-RELEASE schedule

2021-03-31 Thread The Doctor via freebsd-stable
pdated schedule is available on the FreeBSD Project website: > > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/schedule/ > > As usual, we will continue to consider critical bug fixes only for the > duration of this release cycle. > > Thank you for your cooperation, and for your patience.

Re: qlnxe driver not in 13.0 arm64

2021-03-31 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
/unibia/freebsd/misc/arm64/qlnxe_13.0-RC4-arm64.log On 3/30/21 2:31 PM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote this message on Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 03:23 -0400: I installed 13.0-RC3 ARM64 from the DVD ISO image (FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso <h

powerpc64le is missing in: https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/

2021-03-30 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
When I looked at https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ I noticed that "64-bit little-endian PowerPC" powerpc64le is not listed. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org ma

Re: qlnxe driver not in 13.0 arm64

2021-03-30 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
e-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/qlnx_ioctl.c optional qlnxe pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/qlnx_os.c optional qlnxe pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}"| On 3/30/21 3:00 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 3/30/21 8:31 PM, John-Mark Gurney wr

Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update

2021-03-30 Thread Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable
On 30/03/21 17:38, tech-lists wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 05:22:30PM +0200, Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable wrote: No, as you can see in the commit in the official git [1] while for current and stable the new upstream version of openssl was imported for the release the fix was applied

Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update

2021-03-30 Thread Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable
On 30/03/21 15:35, tech-lists wrote: Hi, Recently there was https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2021-March/010380.html about openssl. Upgraded to 12.2-p5 with freebsd-update and rebooted. What I'm unsure about is the openssl version. Up-to-date 12.1-p5 instances report OpenSSL

Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update

2021-03-30 Thread Ruben via freebsd-stable
Hi, Did you mean 12.1-p5 or 12.2-p5 ? I'm asking because you refer to both 12.1-p5 and 12.2-p5 (typo?). If you meant 12.2-p5: Perhaps the FreeBSD security team did not bump the version, but "only" backported the patches to version 1.1.1h ? Regards, Ruben On 3/30/21 3:35 PM,

qlnxe driver not in 13.0 arm64

2021-03-28 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
I installed 13.0-RC3 ARM64 from the DVD ISO image (FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso <http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso>). There is no "if_qlnxe" kernel model present on the install media, or on

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
in under a minute and performance seldom dropped below 1.4 MB/s. >> >> Did you find a resolution? I wonder if setting kern.hz is kicking >> some process(es) to get some time more frequently due to bugs >> elsewhere in the system (interrupts, IPI handling, wake-ups, etc) >

Re: FreeBSD 13.0-RC3 Now Available

2021-03-22 Thread Goran Mekić via freebsd-stable
Hello, I see the RC3 in the "Latest News" but not here: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/schedule/ I hope I'm writing to the proper channels/list about this. Regards, meka signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 unable to boot 13.0-RC1

2021-03-20 Thread Fred via freebsd-stable
On 3/20/21 10:26 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 8:35 AM Fred via freebsd-stable < freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote: On 3/19/21 7:59 PM, Mathias Picker wrote: Fred Hall via freebsd-stable writes: I have a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 (20FCS0NB00) which has happi

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 unable to boot 13.0-RC1

2021-03-20 Thread Fred via freebsd-stable
On 3/19/21 7:59 PM, Mathias Picker wrote: Fred Hall via freebsd-stable writes: I have a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 (20FCS0NB00) which has happily run FreeBSD 11 and 12, but which can't boot 13.0-RC1 from memstick or via freebsd-update. In both cases the boot process locks up on the line

Request: Mount zfs encrypted datasets at boot? Re: FreeBSD 13.0-RC2 Now Available

2021-03-20 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
Hi, > On 13 Mar 2021, at 1:11, Glen Barber wrote: > > The second RC build of the 13.0-RELEASE release cycle is now available. Might it be interesting to change the zfs mount -a / zfs unmount -a in /etc/rc.d/zfs to zfs mount -al / zfs unmount -au so that filesystems using the openzfs

ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 unable to boot 13.0-RC1

2021-03-19 Thread Fred Hall via freebsd-stable
I have a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 (20FCS0NB00) which has happily run FreeBSD 11 and 12, but which can't boot 13.0-RC1 from memstick or via freebsd-update. In both cases the boot process locks up on the line "hwpstate_intel0: on cpu0" If running freebsd-update, a work around

13-RC2 Serial Console not accepting Input

2021-03-18 Thread Dean E. Weimer via freebsd-stable
nsole" comconsole_speed="115200" boot_serial="YES" Am I missing something else that has changed requiring a new option to be set for serial consoles? -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ _______ freebsd-stable@

Re: Updating to 13-stable and existing ZFS pools: any gotchas?

2021-03-17 Thread Dean E. Weimer via freebsd-stable
Everything worked as expected. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-uns

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-15 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
13G throughout hte > operatioin. > >>> > then things got really bad and behaved in a manner that was baffling to >>> > me. The screen froze again, but stayed frozen after half a minute. I >>> > clicked on a couple of buttons in Firefox to no effect and t

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-14 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ss I > do something that tries a bulk disk data move. Building world takes about 75 > minutes. I just have a very hard time building big ports. Almost like things were stuck-sleeping and then the sleep(s) finished? === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 RC1 UEFI RAID-10 boot problems under VMware Fusion

2021-03-14 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
I’ve updated the installation to RC2, the behaviour has changed in vmware fusion to when I installed one of the BETA releases. The initial boot fails, the system will reboot again and then it succeeds, though more predictable than with the BETAs I’m trying to see the differences in screen

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 RC1 UEFI RAID-10 boot problems under VMware Fusion

2021-03-10 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
?) interaction is a bug in VMware or an edge case that needs to be supported too. Btw, bhyve is looking nice these days! Cheers, Ruben _______ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 RC1 UEFI RAID-10 boot problems under VMware Fusio

2021-03-09 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
> Also, I’m missing /boot/*efifat* in FreeBSD13. What is the procedure for > updating EFI loaders? > > They have been removed because they are no longer needed (filesystem images > for boot blocks trouble me too). Agree, but I’ve felt I’ve missed the memo > > mount -t msdos /dev/da0pX /mnt

FreeBSD 13.0 RC1 UEFI RAID-10 boot problems under VMware Fusio

2021-03-09 Thread Ruben van Staveren via freebsd-stable
Hi List, With FreeBSD 13 getting near release I was trying out a new hardware setup for a future upgrade, in where a zfs SATA RAID-10 array would be accelated by some NVME devices for cache, log, and special meta data. However, booting the setup under VMWare fusion gives me a lot of zio_read

Re: geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later on armv8

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Mar-06 10:39:02 -0800, Oleksandr Tymoshenko wrote: >Peter Jeremy via freebsd-current (freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org) wrote: >> [Adding arm@ and making it clearer that this is armv8-only] >> >> On 2021-Mar-06 20:26:19 +1100, Peter Jeremy >> wrote: >> >

Re: geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later on armv8

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
[Adding arm@ and making it clearer that this is armv8-only] On 2021-Mar-06 20:26:19 +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: >On 2021-Mar-06 19:18:37 +1100, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable > wrote: >>Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4 >>(releng/13.0-n244592-

Re: geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Mar-06 19:18:37 +1100, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable wrote: >Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4 >(releng/13.0-n244592-e32bc253629), geli (at least on my RockPro64 - >RK3399, arm64) has changed so that a geli-encrypted partition (using >

geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4 (releng/13.0-n244592-e32bc253629), geli (at least on my RockPro64 - RK3399, arm64) has changed so that a geli-encrypted partition (using AES-XTS 128) that was readable on 13.0-ALPHA2 becomes garbage on 13.0-BETA4. I've verified

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
4TB HDDs models) > > > > FreeBSD 12.2p4 > > > >99.45 real34.90 user59.63 sys > > 100.00 real34.91 user59.97 sys > >82.95 real 35.98 user60.68 sys > > > > FreeBSD 13.0-RC1 > > >

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
/output operation count issues.) > (13.0-BETA2 showed a large "voluntary context switches" > difference as well, but I ignore that middle step in > the version sequence here.) > > So I expect publishing the "rm -fr /usr/ports" figures > from "time -l" would

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
. I do not know if the reports should be via separate topic or not but I doubt the figures with large differences will be the same for most-modern vs. older: I do not expect notable IPC from "rm -fr". > -- > > FreeBSD 12.2p4 > >98.18 real35.31 use

Re: Trying do mount a slice containing a r/o mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-03-03 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Dear All, On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 10:55:15AM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > On 02/03/2021 09:50, Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 04:34:52PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori via > > freebsd-stable wrote: > >

Re: FreeBSD 13.0-BETA2 and slow IO

2021-03-02 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
s are seeing? I'll note that someone submitted: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2021-March/100124.html against 13.0-BETA4 for the UFS journaled soft-updates related performance issue(s). They compared something to 12.1-RELEASE for illustration. === Mark Millard marklmi

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