Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-31 Thread K. Macy
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:16:16 -0700 > "K. Macy" wrote: > >> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016, Mark Linimon >> wrote: >> >> > But for me an attraction has always

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-31 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:16:16 -0700 "K. Macy" wrote: > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016, Mark Linimon > wrote: > > > But for me an attraction has always been "you can build it out of > > the box", even if I rarely do it (e.g. I am not working in the >

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-31 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:16:16PM -0700, K. Macy wrote: > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > I'll demur just a bit on your points. > > > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 08:51:02PM -0700, K. Macy wrote: > > > "we need a compiler to build the system" (a

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-31 Thread K. Macy
On Wednesday, August 31, 2016, Mark Linimon wrote: > I'll demur just a bit on your points. > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 08:51:02PM -0700, K. Macy wrote: > > "we need a compiler to build the system" (a prebuilt package does that > > just fine), > > Well, yes, for a tier-1

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-31 Thread Mark Linimon
I'll demur just a bit on your points. On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 08:51:02PM -0700, K. Macy wrote: > "we need a compiler to build the system" (a prebuilt package does that > just fine), Well, yes, for a tier-1 machine; and one that is connected to the network. > I can't speak for the whole universe

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-30 Thread Łukasz Wąsikowski
W dniu 2016-08-30 o 11:35, Fernando Herrero Carrón pisze: > 2016-08-30 9:04 GMT+02:00 Andrea Brancatelli : > >> >> >> Il 2016-08-30 05:51 K. Macy ha scritto: >> >> I can't speak for the whole universe of users, but I think it's safe >> to say that most users are not

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-30 Thread Fernando Herrero Carrón
2016-08-30 9:04 GMT+02:00 Andrea Brancatelli : > > > Il 2016-08-30 05:51 K. Macy ha scritto: > > I can't speak for the whole universe of users, but I think it's safe > to say that most users are not power users who individually configure > ports tailored to their needs.

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-30 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Il 2016-08-30 05:51 K. Macy ha scritto: > I can't speak for the whole universe of users, but I think it's safe > to say that most users are not power users who individually configure > ports tailored to their needs. I think my experiences on Ubuntu, where > I'm definitely not a power user, are

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-29 Thread K. Macy
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Micheal continued: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=FreeBSD-OpenMP-Base > > I just wonder if not enabling an option in base because the option is > not required in base would make the

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Micheal continued: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=FreeBSD-OpenMP-Base I just wonder if not enabling an option in base because the option is not required in base would make the documentation of the program useless except it is documented. The problem here is now that e.b. I

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 01:41:42 +0200 Fernando Herrero Carrón wrote: > El 28/8/2016 0:06, "Erich Dollansky" > escribió: > > > > Hi, > > > > Micheal did a plain compiler benchmark on FreeBSD 11: > > > > >

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-27 Thread Fernando Herrero Carrón
El 28/8/2016 0:06, "Erich Dollansky" escribió: > > Hi, > > Micheal did a plain compiler benchmark on FreeBSD 11: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=freebsd11-clang-gcc=1 > > It shows clearly how slow CLang is compared to GCC. > > This is the price

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Micheal did a plain compiler benchmark on FreeBSD 11: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=freebsd11-clang-gcc=1 It shows clearly how slow CLang is compared to GCC. This is the price FreeBSD has to pay to be free of GPL in the base system. Erich