Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
Tom Samplonius wrote: - Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more reliable environment other than PAE? Besideds PAE some people have mentioned running an amd64 system. One thing to consider is that PAE in 6-stable

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Pete French
Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more reliable environment other than PAE? I was faced with a similar problem last autmumn - we had been running 6.2 on a set of servers with 4 gig or RAM, but purchased new servers with 16 gig in them. I experimented with various

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Vivek Khera
On Feb 20, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote: And is there some really stability fear about FreeBSD on x86-64? Seems just the same as i386. Some poorly written software fails to run properly in 64-bit environment. I have one such package, and my solution was to compile it on a

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Oliver Fromme
Kevin K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a box that we recently installed 16GB of RAM on. The box is i386 FreeBSD 6.2. It only recognizes 4gb. Several people have already pointed out that you can either run FreeBSD/i386+PAE or FreeBSD/amd64 (64bit). However, there's an important piece of

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Ivan Voras
Tom Samplonius wrote: Is PAE really that stable? I thought it was fairly unpolished, mainly because PAE is seen as a weak kludge implemented by Intel because they all thought we would all be using Itanium's by now. Intel reversed their folly pretty quickly, adopted the x86-64

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Pete French
Architecturally, it's a nasty kludge. As far as stability on FreeBSD is concerned, my only machine under PAE with 4 GB RAM (without PAE it would use a bit over 3 GB) is very solid on 6-STABLE. To the original poster - does a PAE kernel actually boot on your 16 gig machines ? My problem was

RE: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Kevin K
and rock-solid logic ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ivan Voras Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:35 AM To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM Tom Samplonius wrote

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Tom Samplonius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080219 23:00] wrote: - Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more reliable environment other than PAE? Besideds PAE some people have mentioned running an amd64 system.

Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-19 Thread Kevin K
I have a box that we recently installed 16GB of RAM on. The box is i386 FreeBSD 6.2. It only recognizes 4gb. I am currently recompiling the kernel to support options PAE (KERNCONF=PAE) in order to see this. I understand this is still considered a Beta implementation ,and this is a production

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 05:10:17PM -0500, Kevin K wrote: Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more reliable environment other than PAE? You have two options, and these are the only two I'm aware of: 1) Run amd64 (64-bit). 2) Run i386 with PAE enabled. I would choose

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-19 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 05:10:17PM -0500, Kevin K wrote: I have a box that we recently installed 16GB of RAM on. The box is i386 FreeBSD 6.2. It only recognizes 4gb. I am currently recompiling the kernel to support options PAE (KERNCONF=PAE) in order to see this. I understand this is

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Kevin K [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080219 14:40] wrote: I have a box that we recently installed 16GB of RAM on. The box is i386 FreeBSD 6.2. It only recognizes 4gb. I am currently recompiling the kernel to support options PAE (KERNCONF=PAE) in order to see this. I understand this is still

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-19 Thread Tom Samplonius
- Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more reliable environment other than PAE? Besideds PAE some people have mentioned running an amd64 system. One thing to consider is that PAE in 6-stable (6.3 and beyond)