Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread perryh
Pete French petefre...@ticketswitch.com wrote: Is there a way inside the install environment to see what the kernel has detected and created in /dev ? Go into Fixit# and examine /dev and/or the dmesg. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:00:34 -0800 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Go into Fixit# and examine /dev and/or the dmesg. The problem is there's no ls in FixIt mode so you need to use echo * to see what files are present. -- Bruce Cran ___

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 20:01:32 +1000 Andy Farkas chuzzwa...@gmail.com wrote: Why is this so? I think the Fixit environment only contains tools necessary for installing the system and has traditionally needed to be small enough to fit on a 1.44MB floppy disk. So since ls wasn't required it wasn't

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Andy Farkas
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:00:34 -0800 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Go into Fixit# and examine /dev and/or the dmesg. The problem is there's no ls in FixIt mode so you need to use echo * to see what files are present. Why is

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Andy Farkas
So since ls wasn't required it wasn't included. I just booted an old 6.1-RELEASE CD and selected Fixit mode... ls -lF works as expected! -andyf ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 20:29:31 +1000 Andy Farkas chuzzwa...@gmail.com wrote: So since ls wasn't required it wasn't included. I just booted an old 6.1-RELEASE CD and selected Fixit mode... ls -lF works as expected! I should clarify that by saying that ls is included in the live filesystem

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 09:17:27AM +, Bruce Cran wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:00:34 -0800 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Go into Fixit# and examine /dev and/or the dmesg. The problem is there's no ls in FixIt mode so you need to use echo * to see what files are present. Sort of.

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Pete French petefre...@ticketswitch.com wrote: I am not burning a CD or using any physical media. I am booting directly off the image file using iLO. Hence the stuff in that thread doesnt apply. It's defintely 8 specific - I can boot an mage from 7 it works

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 16:40:35 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote: If there is a physical CD-ROM drive which is upsetting sysinstall, I wouldn't be surprised (sysinstall is depressing, please don't get me started on it. :-) ). I'm willing to bet it makes the assumption

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-07 Thread Pete French
If there's more than one CD device you'll get a prompt asking which to use. ...which is precisely what happens under 7.X So, now that I have it installed, when I am logged into the machine I have these devices in /dev: crw-r- 1 root operator0, 89 7 Dec 02:39 /dev/acd0 crw-r-

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-07 Thread Pete French
My problem was that the ILO CDROM presented it's drive as starting from block one (or somesuch nonsense). I ended up doing a netinstall because the boot would work (BIOS understood what was going on) but FreeBSD did not. Interesting ... I've never seen that, but it's always good to know that

FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
Trying to re-install a set of HP servers over the iLO, and every time I tried to install the 8.1 CD I ended up with an error message telling me that the CD looked more like an audio CD than a FreeBSD distibution. I ouzzled over it a bit, and then remembered that I originally installed these

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 07/12/2010 00:51 Pete French said the following: Trying to re-install a set of HP servers over the iLO, and every time I tried to install the 8.1 CD I ended up with an error message telling me that the CD looked more like an audio CD than a FreeBSD distibution. I ouzzled over it a bit,

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 10:51:36PM +, Pete French wrote: Trying to re-install a set of HP servers over the iLO, and every time I tried to install the 8.1 CD I ended up with an error message telling me that the CD looked more like an audio CD than a FreeBSD distibution. I ouzzled over it

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
Basically if it feels like you are the first one to report the problem, then, unfortunately, the onus is on you... Sure, I've been around here long enough to know this - was just trying to see if anyone else knew about it, as it takes so long to boot over the network that I really didn't want

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 07/12/2010 01:27 Pete French said the following: Actually my expereice of filing PR's has been pretty positive over the years. Am a bit surprised you feel this way. Investigating and posting here also generates reseults, but I do like to tag them onto a PR in the end, just so they dont get

Efficacy of PR's [was Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD]

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
Apparently you've been born with a silver spoon or something :-) ...more likely an ability to irritate people until it gets fixed ;-) Because few thousand other people do not seem to be as lucky: http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gnats/gnats-openpercategorycummulative.html ah, not good graph

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
So, I just gave the 8.1 CD a try - which didnt take nearly as long as anticipated. End result is that it also fails to insall. Pr filed as http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=152874 Am wndering if this could be due to the change in the USB stack somehow though - I have a feeling that iLO

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
This problem has been reported many times in the past and almost certainly has nothing to do with 8.x. Here's a thread about the matter where a user states the same as you but about 7.1: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2008-10/msg00307.html I found that - it

Re: Efficacy of PR's [was Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD]

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 07/12/2010 01:44 Pete French said the following: Apparently you've been born with a silver spoon or something :-) ...more likely an ability to irritate people until it gets fixed ;-) That's exactly the reason why I said unless the reporter also actively pursues it :-) Because as my

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 06:46 pm, Pete French wrote: So, I just gave the 8.1 CD a try - which didnt take nearly as long as anticipated. End result is that it also fails to insall. Pr filed as http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=152874 Am wndering if this could be due to the change

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 07/12/2010 01:46 Pete French said the following: So, I just gave the 8.1 CD a try - which didnt take nearly as long as anticipated. End result is that it also fails to insall. Pr filed as http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=152874 BTW, that error message is produced by sysinstall on

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
This problem may be a reverse problem of this PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=138789 In other words, your virtual CD-ROM reads correct TOC from mounted image but block size is wrong? Maybe old umass(4) corrects this case heuristicly but the new USB stack doesn't? Might be

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 11:52:25PM +, Pete French wrote: This problem has been reported many times in the past and almost certainly has nothing to do with 8.x. Here's a thread about the matter where a user states the same as you but about 7.1:

Re: Efficacy of PR's [was Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD]

2010-12-06 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Pete French on Monday, 06 December 2010: Apparently you've been born with a silver spoon or something :-) ...more likely an ability to irritate people until it gets fixed ;-) Because few thousand other people do not seem to be as lucky:

Re: Efficacy of PR's [was Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD]

2010-12-06 Thread Ian Smith
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 07/12/2010 01:44 Pete French said the following: Apparently you've been born with a silver spoon or something :-) ...more likely an ability to irritate people until it gets fixed ;-) That's exactly the reason why I said unless the