Re: Stable does not boot after make buildworld, ... Was: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-14 Thread Kevin
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Christoph Sold wrote: A-Ha! Now we get closer to the problem... read on, suggestions follow... "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: Christoph Sold wrote: Summary of Officially Sanctioned Update Procedure: make buildworld make buildkernel make

Re: Stable does not boot after make buildworld, ... Was: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Christoph Sold wrote: IMHO, when big changes like aout-elf, or, recently, new tool chain tools make changes to the build process unavoidable, /prominent/ hints for stupid stable-only-readers like me should be placed everywhere*) -- in case of aout-elf, I was warned, so that went through.

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-13 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 01:33:58PM -0500, Shawn Barnhart wrote: I guess I don't care which tools I use, so long as they do the right thing, and, most importantly THAT THE METHODS ARE TOTALLY DOCUMENTED WITH ALL THE QUIRKS IN THE FSCK'N HANDBOOK AND NOT JUST IN THE MAILING LIST ARCHIVE! One

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-13 Thread Shawn Barnhart
- Original Message - From: "Nik Clayton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] | # cd /usr/gnats/docs | # grep -i barnhart * | # | | S'funny, this seems to be the first time you've told any of us. Next | time, please use send-pr(1) with the category set to "docs". It would be | appreciated if

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-13 Thread Ben Smithurst
Shawn Barnhart wrote: I guess it's not a question of finding glaring errors that seemed worthy of send-pr, but things I found misleading, confusing or outdated by "newer and better" procedures like make buildkernel. I got my commit bit by sending PRs which were as simple as typos sometimes.

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-12 Thread Michael Robinson
"Jordan K. Hubbard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Once you add up his full benefit package (medical, dental, 401K, insurance, etc) and salary, it still takes another 1199 of you to pay for the rest of him just through buying CDs at full price, three times a year. [...] To summarize, it counts, but

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-12 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
1. The other 1199 new FreeBSD CD-ROM customers you need to get, are they more likely to be CVSUPping, mailing-list tracking, make-worlding-since-2.0.1 The people who buy the CDs tend to be more "expert" in nature, it's the newcomers who generally FTP install the system. experience?

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message 00b801bfeb66$94ab2960$9b239fc0@mobocracy "Shawn Barnhart" writes: : I guess I don't care which tools I use, so long as they do the right : thing, and, most importantly THAT THE METHODS ARE TOTALLY DOCUMENTED : WITH ALL THE QUIRKS IN THE FSCK'N HANDBOOK AND NOT JUST IN THE MAILING :

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-11 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: Well, I didn't see you very active with the 20-odd people who posted the same build error this time around. And I think it makes much more sense to teach people to use a tool which won't have dependency problems in the first place than to catch them all

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-11 Thread Vivek Khera
"KK" == Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KK support after the fact, and so people should be using the buildkernel KK target if they want their kernel builds to work across upgrades. Which is a very different claim than saying you should *always* use buildkernel, and no other method is

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-10 Thread Vivek Khera
"KK" == Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KK On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: So you're saying that even after upgrading from 3.4 to 4.0 you should use make buildkernel? That seems counter to what has been discussed before, and is way non-BSD-ish. KK Buildkernel internally

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-10 Thread Jeff Wyman
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Doug Barton wrote: There is also the option of naming your kernel config file "kernel". Yes, but some people don't like to name their children "kernel" for whatever reason. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in