Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-04-17 Thread George V. Neville-Neil
At Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:39:51 +0100, Tom Evans wrote: > > [1 ] > > On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 15:46 +0100, Ruben van Staveren wrote: > > On 5 Mar 2008, at 15:32, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > >> - IPv6 provides almost no technological upgrades beyond additional > > >> address > > >> space. DHCP addre

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-04-17 Thread Tom Evans
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 15:46 +0100, Ruben van Staveren wrote: > On 5 Mar 2008, at 15:32, Mark Andrews wrote: > > >> - IPv6 provides almost no technological upgrades beyond additional > >> address > >> space. DHCP addressed the auto configuration feature, VPNs addressed > >> IPsec. > > > > Th

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-06 Thread Randall Stewart
check with Michael and see what h is status is on it.. Thanks R Robert Watson wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Vadim Goncharov wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:50:33 -0800; Xin LI wrote about 'Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?': I'm not interested in enabling support for IPv6 for now.

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:42:25 -0800 > From: "Peter Wemm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Mark Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is a reasonable cha

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 2008-03-05 22:42, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Oh, one more thing. If you are IPv6-enabled, you get to bypass the 10 > > minute greylisting delay on mx1.freebsd.org. Your email goes through > > instantly instead of potentially being delayed by 10-30 minutes. > > Until the spammers start using IPv

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Peter Wemm
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Dimitry Andric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-03-05 22:42, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Oh, one more thing. If you are IPv6-enabled, you get to bypass the 10 > > minute greylisting delay on mx1.freebsd.org. Your email goes through > > instantly instead of potenti

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2008-03-05 22:42, Peter Wemm wrote: > Oh, one more thing. If you are IPv6-enabled, you get to bypass the 10 > minute greylisting delay on mx1.freebsd.org. Your email goes through > instantly instead of potentially being delayed by 10-30 minutes. Until the spammers start using IPv6... Then we'

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Peter Wemm
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Mark Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a reasonable chance that this mail will leave here > > over IPv6 for some of the recipients. It will almost > > ce

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Peter Wemm
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Mark Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a reasonable chance that this mail will leave here > over IPv6 for some of the recipients. It will almost > certainly travel over IPv6 for at least one hop. > > Mark It did: drugs.dv

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Andy Dills
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Mark Andrews wrote: > Service providers get paid to push IP packets. They shouldn't > care which protocol version is in the header. What they > should be worried about is ensuring that they are here in > 4 years time. Sure they should. The ASICs in th

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Vadim Goncharov
Hi Andy Dills! On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:40:20 -0500 (EST); Andy Dills wrote about 'Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?': >> O.K., have snipped all the above IPv4 stuff, which actually seems quite >> reaosnable (though appears to foorget about STF), but this line... >&g

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Ruben van Staveren
On 5 Mar 2008, at 15:32, Mark Andrews wrote: - IPv6 provides almost no technological upgrades beyond additional address space. DHCP addressed the auto configuration feature, VPNs addressed IPsec. That extra address space really is a big advantage. It really is so much bette

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Andrews
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > It would be better to remove the option all together. IPv6 > > is no longer a protocol under development. There is no > > need to make it optional any more. Having it there really > > sends the wrong signal. > > With all due resp

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Andy Dills
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Pete French wrote: > O.K., have snipped all the above IPv4 stuff, which actually seems quite > reaosnable (though appears to foorget about STF), but this line... > > > In the meantime, I'd like to only enable IPv6 on IPv6 enabled networks. > > ...I fail to see how not wanting

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Pete French
O.K., have snipped all the above IPv4 stuff, which actually seems quite reaosnable (though appears to foorget about STF), but this line... > In the meantime, I'd like to only enable IPv6 on IPv6 enabled networks. ...I fail to see how not wanting to enable it leads to you wanting to remove it from

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Andy Dills
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Mark Andrews wrote: > It would be better to remove the option all together. IPv6 > is no longer a protocol under development. There is no > need to make it optional any more. Having it there really > sends the wrong signal. With all due respect, let'

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Vadim Goncharov
Hi Mark Andrews! On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:07:56 +1100; Mark Andrews wrote about 'Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?': >>>> I'm not interested in enabling support for IPv6 for now. >>>> >>>> When I remove INET6 from the kernel configuration,

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Vadim Goncharov wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:50:33 -0800; Xin LI wrote about 'Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?': I'm not interested in enabling support for IPv6 for now. When I remove INET6 from the kernel configuration, I cannot compile the

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-04 Thread Mark Andrews
> Hi Xin LI! > > On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:50:33 -0800; Xin LI wrote about 'Re: INET6 required fo > r SCTP in 7.0?': > > >> I'm not interested in enabling support for IPv6 for now. > >> > >> When I remove INET6 from the kernel configuration, I cannot compile the > >> kernel without disabling SC

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-04 Thread Vadim Goncharov
Hi Xin LI! On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:50:33 -0800; Xin LI wrote about 'Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?': >> I'm not interested in enabling support for IPv6 for now. >> >> When I remove INET6 from the kernel configuration, I cannot compile the >> kernel

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-03 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:29:55PM -0500, Andy Dills wrote: > Is this intended and/or a known issue? Known and well-documented. If you need/want SCTP, you need to keep the INET6 option. Otherwise, remove INET6 and remove SCTP as well. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc

Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-03 Thread Xin LI
Andy Dills wrote: Hi there, I'm not interested in enabling support for IPv6 for now. When I remove INET6 from the kernel configuration, I cannot compile the kernel without disabling SCTP. With fresh 7.0-STABLE source, here's the error output (INET6 disabled, but SCTP enabled): Yes, INET6 i

INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0?

2008-03-03 Thread Andy Dills
Hi there, I'm not interested in enabling support for IPv6 for now. When I remove INET6 from the kernel configuration, I cannot compile the kernel without disabling SCTP. With fresh 7.0-STABLE source, here's the error output (INET6 disabled, but SCTP enabled): uipc_syscalls.o(.text+0x3c1): In