Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-16 Thread Ivan Voras
On 13.8.2010 18:01, Kevin Oberman wrote: For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I see variations of up to 22% in identical operations. This is not a degradation as the performance moves up and down.

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
From: Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:03:23 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org On 13.8.2010 18:01, Kevin Oberman wrote: For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-16 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 07:46:38AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: From: Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:03:23 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org On 13.8.2010 18:01, Kevin Oberman wrote: For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-16 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:33:16AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 07:46:38AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: From: Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:03:23 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org On 13.8.2010 18:01, Kevin Oberman

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-15 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 00:07:40 +0200 From: Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 02:36:31AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: Both figures seem quite low to me? I cannot

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-15 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:37:03PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: OK. It's pretty clear that disk IO is terrible on this system. I suspect it's the SATA/PATA converter that is the throttle. In any case, snip I still have no explanation for the variation. It's not vibration. Some of my best times

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-14 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:06:58 +0800 From: TJ Varghese t...@tjvarghese.com [..] You're using a laptop with 2 HDDs, so does that mean you're using the Ultrabay for the 2nd HDD? Perhaps anything connected to that drops down to ATA33 (pure

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-14 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Saturday 14 August 2010 05:57:51 Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:33:57 +0800 From: TJ Varghese t...@tjvarghese.com The deviation in your disk I/O isn't a major surprise (to me anyway), given the system specs. What *does* surprise me is your abysmal I/O speeds in

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-14 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 02:36:31AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: Both figures seem quite low to me? I cannot exactly reproduce your test, because I don't have an empty second disk handy, but doing dd if=/dev/zero bs=1m

Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I see variations of up to 22% in identical operations. This is not a degradation as the performance moves up and down. This is a very simplistic case. I have two

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Stefan Bethke
Am 13.08.2010 um 18:01 schrieb Kevin Oberman: Note the dramatic differences even on the same kernel. For the December 6 kernel, for example, I see a maximum of 23,676,086 and a minimum of just 18,304,565. Are the disks still OK? If any sectors have been remapped between runs,

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
From: Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:23:08 +0200 Am 13.08.2010 um 18:01 schrieb Kevin Oberman: Note the dramatic differences even on the same kernel. For the December 6 kernel, for example, I see a maximum of 23,676,086 and a minimum of just 18,304,565.

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I see variations of up to 22% in identical operations. This is not a degradation as the

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I see variations of up to 22% in identical operations. This is not a degradation as the

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Clifton Royston
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:32:05PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I see variations of up to 22% in

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: Both figures seem quite low to me? I cannot exactly reproduce your test, because I don't have an empty second disk handy, but doing dd if=/dev/zero bs=1m count=100 of=/tmp/foo With a total write size of 100MB,

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:32:05 +0200 From: Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I see variations

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:29:54 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I see

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread TJ Varghese
Maybe there is a hardware component here? Are both disks on the same controller? Or if not are both controllers using the same interrupt line? No. Each is on its one controller and is the only disk on that controller. You should have a look at 'systat -vmstat' with dd running in the

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread TJ Varghese
The deviation in your disk I/O isn't a major surprise (to me anyway), given the system specs. What *does* surprise me is your abysmal I/O speeds in general. 18MB/sec min, 24MB/sec max?! ICH6-M can do a lot more than that. Something isn't right. it's possible that the hw is...suboptimal.

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:06:58 +0800 From: TJ Varghese t...@tjvarghese.com Maybe there is a hardware component here? Are both disks on the same controller? Or if not are both controllers using the same interrupt line? No. Each is on its one controller and is the only disk on

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:32:05PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:33:57 +0800 From: TJ Varghese t...@tjvarghese.com The deviation in your disk I/O isn't a major surprise (to me anyway), given the system specs. What *does* surprise me is your abysmal I/O speeds in general. 18MB/sec min, 24MB/sec max?! ICH6-M can do a lot