Re: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-25 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 02:37:24 pm Doug Barton wrote: Vivek Khera wrote: I guess I wasn't clear about my confusion. What was broken about putting all this in make.conf that necessitated a src.conf file too? One could argue that they didn't need to be moved at all. One of the

Re: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-23 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday 22 January 2008 12:36:47 pm Vivek Khera wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Doug Barton wrote: There is a cross-reference to src.conf(5) at the end of make.conf(5), but IMO the connection needs to be made more explicit. Anyone want to take that on? This should also go in

Re: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-23 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jan 23, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Baldwin wrote: What was broken that required this to be fixed? Inconsistent use of what NO_FOO= meant. Some places only checked if it was set, other places required it to be set to yes, so NO_FOO=no might disable FOO or it might not. The WITHOUT_* /

Re: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-23 Thread Doug Barton
Vivek Khera wrote: I guess I wasn't clear about my confusion. What was broken about putting all this in make.conf that necessitated a src.conf file too? One could argue that they didn't need to be moved at all. One of the rationales at the time was that we didn't want the knobs for the base

Re: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-22 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jan 21, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Doug Barton wrote: There is a cross-reference to src.conf(5) at the end of make.conf(5), but IMO the connection needs to be made more explicit. Anyone want to take that on? This should also go in the release notes if it's not already. So do I need to move my

NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-21 Thread Toomas Aas
Hello! In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? At least they are not listed in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf, or make.conf(5). I'm

RE: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-21 Thread Johan Hendriks
Hello! In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? At least they are not listed in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf, or make.conf(5). I'm

Re: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-21 Thread Pete French
In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? They turned into 'WITHOUT_XXX' I'm specifically curious about NO_SENDMAIL. WITHOUT_SENDMAIL

RE: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-21 Thread Johan Hendriks
Hello! In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? At least they are not listed in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf, or make.conf(5). I'm

Re: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-21 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 03:03:13PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? At least they are not listed in /usr

Re: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

2008-01-21 Thread Doug Barton
Toomas Aas wrote: Hello! In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? There is a cross-reference to src.conf(5) at the end of make.conf(5