Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you ask me, kernel developer | server install should be on disc1, and desktop^*$ should go on disc99. FreeBSD ...the power to serve. ^ eh ? ??? So what do you propose to use as workstations with your

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-03 Thread gregoryd . freebsd
Quoting Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi ! In this context, I believe that it makes more sense to place the server related install on the first disc. This makes it possible to install a server with the least amount of effort. Granted. It /also/ makes it quite possible for a would-be desktop

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-03 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Monday, March 03, 2008 02:20:49 -0800 Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would assert that FreeBSD is first and foremost a Server OS. The fact that it can also provide a full blown desktop, is so much the better. In this context, I believe that it makes more sense to place the server

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --On Monday, March 03, 2008 02:20:49 -0800 Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would assert that FreeBSD is first and foremost a Server OS. The fact that it can also provide a full blown desktop, is so much the better. In this context, I believe that it

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-02 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Ken Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 19:18 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: Another approach might be to make one cd the desktop install cd, including all of the apps commonly used to install the desktop (xorg, kde, gnome, etc.) This is already in place, as best I can.

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-02 Thread gregoryd . freebsd
Quoting Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you ask me, kernel developer | server install should be on disc1, and desktop^*$ should go on disc99. FreeBSD ...the power to serve. ^ eh ? ??? So what do you propose to use as workstations with your FreeBSD servers ? (Not that

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-02 Thread Eugene Grosbein
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:01:56AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what do you propose to use as workstations with your FreeBSD servers ? (Not that I see much difference in philosophy, nowadays: servers used to be those machines with high throughput all along the night, and now they

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just spent the whole morning installing it on my office desktop. It was an awful experience: installing packages

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:18:52 -0600 Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does seem to me that some work in this area would pay dividends. Suggestion for a quick fix (hack might be the right word): 1. first time one of the extra cd's is read, the user gets a choice to copy the cd to hard

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread David Marec
Le Thursday 28 February 2008 13:18:30 Kris Kennaway, vous avez écrit : freebsd update requires a known state to upgrade from, i.e. so it can apply the right set of diffs to bring your system from one known state to another. This basically means previously installed from the release media and

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
Chris H. wrote: * log on as root - or su to root after logging on as regular user * type /usr/sbin/sysinstall - this brings up the installer again * choose post install * choose install additional ports/packages * choose net/cvsup-without-gui * when finished, exit the installer A very nice

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread gregoryd . freebsd
Quoting Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BSD is /different/. Which is /not/ bad, just /different/. :) Never said it was bad (on the *very* contrary) Been using it for a little more than 10 years now: would I have been if I had thought otherwise ? ;-) * choose net/cvsup-without-gui no longer

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthew Seaman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just spent the whole morning installing it on my office desktop. It was an awful experience: installing packages from the

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chris H. wrote: * log on as root - or su to root after logging on as regular user * type /usr/sbin/sysinstall - this brings up the installer again * choose post install * choose install additional ports/packages * choose net/cvsup-without-gui * when

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread Chris H.
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BSD is /different/. Which is /not/ bad, just /different/. :) Never said it was bad (on the *very* contrary) Been using it for a little more than 10 years now: would I have been if I had thought otherwise ? ;-) * choose

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread Ken Smith
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 19:18 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: Another approach might be to make one cd the desktop install cd, including all of the apps commonly used to install the desktop (xorg, kde, gnome, etc.) This is already in place, as best I can. X.org is on disc1 (on purpose since it's

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread Julian Stacey
But I'm not up to it right now. I'll save it for another posting. Posting come go forgotten, so I suggest send your final script as a send-pr to eg the doc/ tree. That (doc/ tree) ( www tree generated from it, copied in advanced to local host) people can have available eg on local laptop,

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-03-01 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:32 PM +0800 Nawfal bin Mohmad Rouyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can actually use csup instead of cvsup and it is already included in the base. I knew that, but old habits die hard. Plus I haven't read the csup man page yet. :-) Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-29 Thread gregoryd . freebsd
Quoting Ken Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi ! On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just spent the whole morning installing it on my office desktop. It was an awful experience: installing packages from the three CDs kept

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just spent the whole morning installing it on my office desktop. It was an awful experience: installing packages from the three CDs kept making me switch

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-29 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, February 29, 2008 11:54 PM + Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just spent the whole morning installing it on my office desktop. It

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-29 Thread Nawfal bin Mohmad Rouyan
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 19:18 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Friday, February 29, 2008 11:54 PM + Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread David Marec
Le Wednesday 27 February 2008 23:32:55 Ken Smith, vous avez écrit : http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I am trying to use the freebsd-update script for the first time.

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread David Marec
Le Thursday 28 February 2008 12:32:28 David Marec, vous avez écrit : I am trying to use the freebsd-update script for the first time. sh -x freebsd-update.sh -f freebsd-update.conf -r 7.0-RELEASE upgrade -- + fetch -q http://update1.FreeBSD.org/6.3-STABLE/i386/pub.ssl + true + [ -r pub.ssl ]

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
Thank you all and Congrats! :) Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ - Original Message From: Ken Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-stable freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:32:55 AM Subject:

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
David Marec wrote: Le Thursday 28 February 2008 12:32:28 David Marec, vous avez écrit : I am trying to use the freebsd-update script for the first time. sh -x freebsd-update.sh -f freebsd-update.conf -r 7.0-RELEASE upgrade freebsd update requires a known state to upgrade from, i.e. so it

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread Georgi Iovchev
Congrats :)) I have been waiting it : p.s. yesteday csuped sources and rebuilded world, but my tag in supfile was RELENG_7 not 7_0 and now in dmesg i am stil getting FreeBSD 7 PRERELEASE is this a problem, and should i csup again and rebuild world again? Georgi Iovchev

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
Georgi Iovchev wrote: Congrats :)) I have been waiting it : p.s. yesteday csuped sources and rebuilded world, but my tag in supfile was RELENG_7 not 7_0 and now in dmesg i am stil getting FreeBSD 7 PRERELEASE is this a problem, and should i csup again and rebuild world

RE: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread Johan Hendriks
Congrats :)) I have been waiting it : p.s. yesteday csuped sources and rebuilded world, but my tag in supfile was RELENG_7 not 7_0 and now in dmesg i am stil getting FreeBSD 7 PRERELEASE is this a problem, and should i csup again and rebuild world again? Georgi Iovchev

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:32:11PM +0200, Georgi Iovchev wrote: p.s. yesteday csuped sources and rebuilded world, but my tag in supfile was RELENG_7 not 7_0 and now in dmesg i am stil getting FreeBSD 7 PRERELEASE is this a problem, and should i csup again and rebuild world again?

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread Stefan Lambrev
Greetings, Georgi Iovchev wrote: Congrats :)) I have been waiting it : p.s. yesteday csuped sources and rebuilded world, but my tag in supfile was RELENG_7 not 7_0 RELENG_7 will show 7.0-STABLE. If you want release use RELENG_7_0. I guess there is not big difference between

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread freebsd
Thank you all for answers. I guess i'll use stable (R_7) in home and release (R_7_0 for now) on servers Have a good rebuilding night! : Stefan Lambrev wrote .. Greetings, Georgi Iovchev wrote: Congrats :)) I have been waiting it : p.s. yesteday csuped sources and

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-28 Thread bazzoola
Terrific job! Thanks for anyone contributed to this fine release :) On Feb 27, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Ken Smith wrote: Just in case some interested parties are not subscribed to the freebsd-announce mailing list... FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE has been formally released. If you would like to see the

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-27 Thread Dirk Arlt
Ken Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. Thanks for all your work (done and to be done). Dirk

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Ken Smith wrote: Just in case some interested parties are not subscribed to the freebsd-announce mailing list... FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE has been formally released. If you would like to see the release announcement it's here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html On behalf of the