Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2006-04-05 Thread Rutger Bevaart
It doesn't look like a power problem. We have it with several systems in different datacenters. I've tried the giantlock setting, let's hope it works! Am I safe to assume that it can (negatively) impact performance of the system? What can be the cause of fine grained locking causing the

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2006-04-04 Thread Rutger Bevaart
Argh. After all the fixes done on the 5.4-STABLE and 6.0 codebases my Dell PE1750 still reboots randomly. Again last night at 03.03 :- ( essages still shows nothing, nothing special was going on at the time (loadavg ~ 0.00). It's running: FreeBSD xyz 6.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p4

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2006-04-04 Thread Vivek Khera
On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:37 AM, Rutger Bevaart wrote: I'm completely at a loss, and inclined to remove FreeBSD and install another OS as it is an important management machine for us, that reboots about monthly. Any clues, tips, help, know bugs? Either bad hardware or pilot error. Here's

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2006-04-04 Thread Charles Swiger
On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:37 AM, Rutger Bevaart wrote: This because we have 2850's that experience exactly the same problems, just less frequently (about once every 4 months). I'm completely at a loss, and inclined to remove FreeBSD and install another OS as it is an important management machine

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2006-01-02 Thread Don Lewis
On 30 Nov, Dan Charrois wrote: This is encouraging - it's the first I've heard of someone who has found a way to trigger the problem on demand. The problems I was experiencing were on a dual Xeon with HTT enabled as well.Perhaps someone out there who knows much more about the inner

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-30 Thread Dan Charrois
This is encouraging - it's the first I've heard of someone who has found a way to trigger the problem on demand. The problems I was experiencing were on a dual Xeon with HTT enabled as well.Perhaps someone out there who knows much more about the inner workings of FreeBSD may have an

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-29 Thread Dan Charrois
Thanks everyone for replies made over the past few days about the unsolicited rebooting problem. At first, I thought there was a memory allocation bug as judged by the output of netstat -m, but apparently it's just a cosmetic statistics reporting bug and nothing related to the instability

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-29 Thread Claus Guttesen
Thanks everyone for replies made over the past few days about the unsolicited rebooting problem. At first, I thought there was a memory allocation bug as judged by the output of netstat -m, but apparently it's just a cosmetic statistics reporting bug and nothing related to the instability

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-29 Thread Vivek Khera
On Nov 29, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Claus Guttesen wrote: It's not any comfort to you but I have two Dell PE 1750's running very reliable using FreeBSD 5.4 stable as of Wed. the 28'th of Sep. 2005. I'd recommend running the Dell diags. They're pretty good at picking out hardware trouble, which

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-29 Thread Kevin Oberman
As far as I can tell, hyperthreading is not much of a win for anyone. See hte article at: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39237341,00.htmhttp://news.zdnet .co.uk/0,39020330,39237341,00.htm It reports that HTT slows performance even on threaded and, theoretically HTT ideal apps. (And this was

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-29 Thread Dan Charrois
Rutger Bevaart wrote: Same here on several 1750's, 1850's and 2850's. Tomorrow I'll disable USB in the BIOS on one of the 1750's and see if it makes a difference. It's the only one of the set that I could get downtime for because it rebooted yesterday ;-) I've disabled USB in the BIOS on

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-29 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
Dan Charrois wrote: It actually may be a comfort, since perhaps HTT is related to the culprit. Since the last crash, about a month ago, I disabled HTT, both in the kernel as well in the BIOS. So as far as I know, it's completely been disabled (and the boot messages and top only show 2

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-26 Thread Gino Ruopolo
], freebsd-stable@freebsd.org,Gino Ruopolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP? Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:09:19 -0500 On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 01:22:01PM +0100, Rutger Bevaart wrote: Hello Kris ( list), Thanks for helping the 1750 and 2850 owners on this list

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-25 Thread Rutger Bevaart
Hello Kris ( list), Thanks for helping the 1750 and 2850 owners on this list. Unfortunately I cannot find any references to the leak or the fix you are referring to in the Release errata (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/errata.html). We are trying really hard to resolve the stability issues

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 01:22:01PM +0100, Rutger Bevaart wrote: Hello Kris ( list), Thanks for helping the 1750 and 2850 owners on this list. Unfortunately I cannot find any references to the leak or the fix you are referring to in the Release errata

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-25 Thread Rutger Bevaart
On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:09 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: As I said twice already, the stats leak is ***HARMLESS***. It only gives the wrong value to counters that are unused for anything except reporting to the user. Aha, that's what I was trying to clear up when the whole counters issue came

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-24 Thread Rutger Bevaart
Hi Kris, I cannot find anything about that in the /usr/src/UPDATING for the 5.4 branch. We're running FreeBSD xyz 5.4-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p5 and p6 and later only fix some IPSEC and SSL stuff. Is it in 6.0 and if so, will somebody backport that fix? Regards Rutger On Wed, November

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 09:45:08AM +0100, Rutger Bevaart wrote: Hi Kris, I cannot find anything about that in the /usr/src/UPDATING for the 5.4 branch. I didn't say anything about UPDATING, I said the release errata. We're running FreeBSD xyz 5.4-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p5 and p6

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-24 Thread Dan Charrois
Hi Kris, Rutger, and others that have commented on this thread. I'm happy to hear that I'm not the only one experiencing problems like this. I posted a similar question a month or so ago about a PowerEdge 2850 using SMP (dual Xeons) and never received any responses that helped solve the

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-24 Thread Dan Charrois
I just thought of one other bit of info that may be relevant to the auto-rebooting problem I've experienced with our PowerEdge 2850. Since the problem may be related to memory allocation, I thought I should mention that we have more memory in that machine that is typical for some users.

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 02:36:01PM -0700, Dan Charrois wrote: But here's about where any troubleshooting on my own reaches its limit. I noticed that Kris mentioned it was a known problem in the stats counting for SMP machines and had been fixed, but haven't been able to find a

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 02:49:10PM -0700, Dan Charrois wrote: I just thought of one other bit of info that may be relevant to the auto-rebooting problem I've experienced with our PowerEdge 2850. Since the problem may be related to memory allocation, I thought I should mention that we

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 07:24:25PM +0100, Rutger Bevaart wrote: Strange indeed. On a 1750 with bge's: 475 mbufs in use 501/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/max) 0/3/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 1120 KBytes allocated to network 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-21 Thread Vivek Khera
On Nov 20, 2005, at 1:24 PM, Rutger Bevaart wrote: Both experience the auto reboot feature. The mbufs on the 2850 look like a counter (signed/unsigned) bug, maybe even just in the printing. Other than that I'm having a hard time interpreting these results. FreeBSD 4.x, 5.x, and 6.x have

Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP?

2005-11-20 Thread Rutger Bevaart
Strange indeed. On a 1750 with bge's: 475 mbufs in use 501/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/max) 0/3/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 1120 KBytes allocated to network 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 100 calls to protocol