on 18/11/2010 20:56 Alexander Best said the following:
On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of
Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus:
judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo.
Well, my (admittedly
on 19/11/2010 00:55 Daniel Nebdal said the following:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Alexander Kabaev kab...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 +
Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote:
well...i tried playing back a 1080p vide files while doing
`make -j64 buildkernel` and
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:17:10 +
Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote:
17:51 @ Genesys : Luigi Rizzo had a plugabble scheduler back in 4.*
or \ thereabouts
17:51 @ Genesys : you could kldload new ones and switch to them on
the fly 17:52 @ arundel : wow. that sounds cool. too bad it
Quoting Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org (from Fri, 19 Nov 2010
00:17:10 +):
17:51 @ Genesys : Luigi Rizzo had a plugabble scheduler back in 4.* or \
thereabouts
17:51 @ Genesys : you could kldload new ones and switch to them on the fly
17:52 @ arundel : wow. that sounds cool. too
on 18/11/2010 22:20 Julian Elischer said the following:
tty grouping is a variant of what we used to have at one stage which is
a kernel schedulable entity group.. KSEG
Or rather, I think, a concrete application of a variant of that.
the idea is that all items in a group share some
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk writes:
Hello,
Google suggests that the work was a GSoC project in 2005 on a pluggable
disk scheduler.
It seems that something similar has found its way in DFlyBSD, dsched.
Éric Masson
--
manquerait plus que les groupes soient pollués. c'est beaucoup plus
On 19/11/2010 12:42, Eric Masson wrote:
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk writes:
Hello,
Google suggests that the work was a GSoC project in 2005 on a pluggable
disk scheduler.
It seems that something similar has found its way in DFlyBSD, dsched.
And indeed to FreeBSD, man gsched. Added sometime
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 02:18:52PM +, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
On 19/11/2010 12:42, Eric Masson wrote:
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk writes:
Hello,
Google suggests that the work was a GSoC project in 2005 on a pluggable
disk scheduler.
It seems that something similar has found its
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:30:16 +0100
O. Hartmann ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On 11/18/10 19:55, Lucius Windschuh wrote:
2010/11/18 Andriy Gapona...@freebsd.org:
[Grouping of processes into TTY groups]
Well, I think that those improvements apply only to a very specific usage
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 02:18:52PM +, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
On 19/11/2010 12:42, Eric Masson wrote:
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk writes:
Hello,
Google suggests that the work was a GSoC project in 2005 on a pluggable
disk scheduler.
It seems that something similar has found its
http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/392
On 11/18/10, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote:
Just documenting regarding interactive performance things.
This one's from Linux.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2637_videonum=1
Well,
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Oliver Pinter oliver.p...@gmail.com wrote:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/392
On 11/18/10, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote:
Just documenting regarding interactive performance things.
This one's from Linux.
My desktop running 7-STABLE with 100Hz and NOPREEMPT (it's a 4core SMP system),
I tested 8-STABLE, but that is not too responsive, the solution is:
100Hz NOPREEMPT + kern.sched.preempt_thresh=224
After this setting, the system is likely responsive as 7-STABLE.
On 11/19/10, Garrett Cooper
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Oliver Pinter oliver.p...@gmail.com wrote:
My desktop running 7-STABLE with 100Hz and NOPREEMPT (it's a 4core SMP
system),
I tested 8-STABLE, but that is not too responsive, the solution is:
100Hz NOPREEMPT + kern.sched.preempt_thresh=224
After this setting,
In the last episode (Nov 19), Alexander Leidinger said:
Quoting Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org (from Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:17:10
+):
17:51 @ Genesys : Luigi Rizzo had a plugabble scheduler back in 4.* or
thereabouts
17:51 @ Genesys : you could kldload new ones and switch to them
On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote:
Just documenting regarding interactive performance things.
This one's from Linux.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2637_videonum=1
Well,
it would be nice to have those improvements in FreeBSD, but I doubt this
will make it in due time
on 18/11/2010 13:04 O. Hartmann said the following:
On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote:
Just documenting regarding interactive performance things.
This one's from Linux.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2637_videonum=1
Well,
it would be nice to have those
On Thu Nov 18 10, Andriy Gapon wrote:
on 18/11/2010 13:04 O. Hartmann said the following:
On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote:
Just documenting regarding interactive performance things.
This one's from Linux.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2637_videonum=1
On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Alexander Best wrote:
On Thu Nov 18 10, Andriy Gapon wrote:
on 18/11/2010 13:04 O. Hartmann said the following:
On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote:
Just documenting regarding interactive performance things.
This one's from Linux.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:39, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
Frankly, I'm also turned off by the attempt to popup a full page ad in
addition to the rest of the advertising content which surrounds what is
nominally supposed to be the real content. That doesn't mean there is
anything
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of
Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus:
judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo.
Well, my (admittedly limited, and certainly anecdotal) experience is
that Linux's interactive response when under heavy load
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM +, Alexander Best wrote:
On Thu Nov 18 10, Andriy Gapon wrote:
on 18/11/2010 13:04 O. Hartmann said the following:
On 11/18/10 02:30, grarpamp wrote:
Just documenting regarding interactive performance things.
This one's from Linux.
On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of
Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus:
judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo.
Well, my (admittedly limited, and certainly anecdotal) experience is
that
On Thu Nov 18 10, Rob Farmer wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:39, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
Frankly, I'm also turned off by the attempt to popup a full page ad in
addition to the rest of the advertising content which surrounds what is
nominally supposed to be the real content.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of
Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus:
judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo.
2010/11/18 Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org:
[Grouping of processes into TTY groups]
Well, I think that those improvements apply only to a very specific usage
pattern
and are greatly over-hyped.
But there are serious issue if you use FreeBSD as a desktop OS with
SMP and SCHED_ULE, or?
Because
On 11/18/10 19:28, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of
Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus:
judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo.
Well, my (admittedly limited, and certainly anecdotal) experience is
that Linux's
On 11/18/10 19:55, Lucius Windschuh wrote:
2010/11/18 Andriy Gapona...@freebsd.org:
[Grouping of processes into TTY groups]
Well, I think that those improvements apply only to a very specific usage
pattern
and are greatly over-hyped.
But there are serious issue if you use FreeBSD as a
On 11/18/10 10:55 AM, Lucius Windschuh wrote:
2010/11/18 Andriy Gapona...@freebsd.org:
[Grouping of processes into TTY groups]
Well, I think that those improvements apply only to a very specific usage
pattern
and are greatly over-hyped.
But there are serious issue if you use FreeBSD as a
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 +
Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of
Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus:
judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact
On Thu Nov 18 10, Alexander Kabaev wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 +
Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of
Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus:
judging from
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:59:43PM +, Alexander Best wrote:
well i did exactly what they did in the video. watch a 1080p video and move
the output window around while compiling the kernel.
It is trivial to bring ULE to its knees. If you
have N cores then all you need is N+1 cpu
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Alexander Kabaev kab...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 +
Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of
Alexander Best, and lo! it spake
On Fri Nov 19 10, Daniel Nebdal wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Alexander Kabaev kab...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 +
Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the
On 11/18/10 3:37 PM, Alexander Best wrote:
On Fri Nov 19 10, Daniel Nebdal wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Alexander Kabaevkab...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 +
Alexander Bestarun...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Thu Nov 18 10, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Nov
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Steve Kargl
s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:59:43PM +, Alexander Best wrote:
well i did exactly what they did in the video. watch a 1080p video and move
the output window around while compiling the kernel.
It is
On Thu Nov 18 10, Julian Elischer wrote:
On 11/18/10 3:37 PM, Alexander Best wrote:
On Fri Nov 19 10, Daniel Nebdal wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Alexander Kabaevkab...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:56:35 +
Alexander Bestarun...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Thu Nov 18
On Nov 18, 2010, at 18:43, Julian Elischer wrote:
we are part of the way there..
at least we did abstract the scheduler to the point where we have
two completely different ones. you are welcome to develop a
'framework as you describe and plug it into the abstraction we
already have.
It
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM +, Alexander Best wrote:
you think so? judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact
imo.
On Linux. Have you ever seen those sorts of UI problems on FreeBSD? I don't
watch much video on my systems, but I haven't seen that. FreeBSD has
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