Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-30 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Andy Farkas wrote: >> There's still plenty of laptops that would be crippled if these were >> removed. >> > > Indeed: > > dc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem > 0x8800-0x880003ff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 > > -andyf > Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting to ret

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Andy Farkas
There's still plenty of laptops that would be crippled if these were removed. Indeed: dc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x8800-0x880003ff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 -andyf ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Thomas Mueller
> In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=231135&postcount=4 > Would it be a good time to remove those from GENERIC since the > hardware they are for is becoming so seriously outdated? > There's always an option to load those drivers a

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Warner Losh
On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > .. after tinkering in the USB world, i wonder what's wrong with this: > > * created a basic markup / description language to encapsulate what PCI/USB > probing requires; > * generated both config files _and_ .c / .h files for drivers to includ

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Adrian Chadd
.. after tinkering in the USB world, i wonder what's wrong with this: * created a basic markup / description language to encapsulate what PCI/USB probing requires; * generated both config files _and_ .c / .h files for drivers to include; * have the kernel build process do .device_description -> .c

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Boris Kochergin
On 08/29/13 11:52, Warner Losh wrote: > On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > >> In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: >> >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=231135&postcount=4 >> >> Would it be a good time to remove those from GENERIC since the >> hardware they are for i

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Warner Losh
On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=231135&postcount=4 > > Would it be a good time to remove those from GENERIC since the > hardware they are for is becoming so seriously outdated? > > There

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Warner Losh
On Aug 29, 2013, at 8:54 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:56:53 am Adrian Chadd wrote: >> Hm! Are they dynamically loaded if you insert the cards? >> >> (Ie, has devd been taught about them as appropriate?) > > These are drivers for the bridges, not for cards you plug in

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:56:53 am Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hm! Are they dynamically loaded if you insert the cards? > > (Ie, has devd been taught about them as appropriate?) These are drivers for the bridges, not for cards you plug into the bridges. If you autoloaded them at all you would lo

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hm! Are they dynamically loaded if you insert the cards? (Ie, has devd been taught about them as appropriate?) -adrian On 29 August 2013 02:15, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=231135&postcount=4 > > Would it be a

Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:15:17 +0300, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > To: FreeBSD current , > "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , > freebsd-hardw...@freebsd.org Just to -stable, as the OP in that forum post's thread was well advised. > In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: > > http://forums.f

Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC?

2013-08-29 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=231135&postcount=4 Would it be a good time to remove those from GENERIC since the hardware they are for is becoming so seriously outdated? There's always an option to load those drivers as modules if needed. -Kim