Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-31 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, If you'd like space on the freebsd wiki site, please create an account and then email me (or grab me on IRC) to sort out access. Non-developers can have access to the Wiki. I don't know why people think it's developers only. :) Adrian On 14 July 2011 17:22, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-28 Thread Jim Bryant
heh, the dv-series really nice exterior, but, inside, poor choices in cable routing, increased use of polymer ribbons prone to breakage and open circuit from even a single disassembly (lint/dust is the #1 laptop killer, they have to be cleaned out regularly, no less than twice a year in

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-18 Thread Tom Evans
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Jim Bryant kc5vdj.free...@gmail.com wrote: stay away from newer hp laptops. HP also like to lock-down which wifi cards you can use from BIOS - the machines won't complete POST with a 'bad' wifi card, so that's another strike as far as I am concerned. I've never

recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-18 Thread Zoran Kolic
I'm typing this on a Dell Latitude E6410 - Core i5, iwn wifi, em lan, nvidia graphics, webcam supported by webcamd... There seems to be one interesting new laptop, lenovo e320, coded as 685D089. It is i3, 3000hd graphics, probably 5100 wifi. Model with freedos for about 460 euros. Matte screen,

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-18 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Tom Evans tevans...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Jim Bryant kc5vdj.free...@gmail.com wrote: stay away from newer hp laptops. HP also like to lock-down which wifi cards you can use from BIOS - the machines won't complete POST with a

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-14 Thread Ian Smith
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Rick Macklem wrote: Kevin Oberman wrote: On Jul 13, 2011 7:31 AM, Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs wrote: There is this list for laptops: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Been there. Seen that. Obsolete. My very idea would be to have recent models in

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-14 Thread Zoran Kolic
Zoran's comments that http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ is 'obsolete' are a bit misplaced regarding older kit that some of us use by choice or necessity (eg my 2.5 Thinkpad T23s :) Sorry for the word chosen in this case. I use one even older lapper, HP nx9020, with real 4:3 screen, matte.

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-14 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Zoran Kolic wrote: Zoran's comments that http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ is 'obsolete' are a bit misplaced regarding older kit that some of us use by choice or necessity (eg my 2.5 Thinkpad T23s :) Sorry for the word chosen in this case. I use one even older lapper, HP nx9020, with

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-07-14 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 0n Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 04:08:48PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Zoran Kolic wrote: Zoran's comments that http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ is 'obsolete' are a bit misplaced regarding older kit that some of us use by choice

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-14 Thread Jim Bryant
stay away from newer hp laptops. been repairing laptops for money in recent years. HP laptops made after 2008 generally have serious issues with BGA lifting, and usually require motherboard replacement after 1-2 years. also their manuals have even more undocumented disassembly instructions,

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-14 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Jim Bryant on Thursday, 14 July 2011: stay away from newer hp laptops. been repairing laptops for money in recent years. HP laptops made after 2008 generally have serious issues with BGA lifting, and usually require motherboard replacement after 1-2 years. also their manuals have

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-14 Thread Randy Bush
I might be able to admin such a wiki, but I have no place to put it. want a vm guest all for yourself in the westin? randy ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-14 Thread Randy Bush
I might be able to admin such a wiki, but I have no place to put it. want a vm guest all for yourself in the westin? apologies, this was supposed to be private ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-13 Thread Zoran Kolic
There is this list for laptops: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Been there. Seen that. Obsolete. My very idea would be to have recent models in some kind of wiki. I believe that at least hundred guys on the list could post quality articles on the subject regarding lap- tops they regurarly

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Jul 13, 2011 7:31 AM, Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs wrote: There is this list for laptops: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Been there. Seen that. Obsolete. My very idea would be to have recent models in some kind of wiki. I believe that at least hundred guys on the list could post

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-13 Thread Rick Macklem
Kevin Oberman wrote: On Jul 13, 2011 7:31 AM, Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs wrote: There is this list for laptops: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Been there. Seen that. Obsolete. My very idea would be to have recent models in some kind of wiki. I believe that at least hundred guys

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-13 Thread Vladimir Zorin
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 13, 2011 7:31 AM, Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs wrote: There is this list for laptops: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Been there. Seen that. Obsolete. My very idea would be to have recent models in some kind

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
I agree that a wiki would be ideal, but it would require active management. That's the real issue. It's also the reason wiki.FreeBSD.org would not be practical. I might be able to admin such a wiki, but I have no place to put it. But I'm retired, so I should have time. R. Kevin Oberman,

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Vladimir Zorin wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 13, 2011 7:31 AM, Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs wrote: There is this list for laptops: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Been there. Seen that. Obsolete. My very idea would be to have

recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-12 Thread Zoran Kolic
Comes a time to ask again and again the same question. More I read, less I know. Just as I found that candida- te for my new laptop, dell latitude 13 comes with anti- glare screen and all hardware well supported, forums reveal that it's 320gb hard drive heats a lot. It makes vostro v13 better

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-12 Thread John Nielsen
On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote: Comes a time to ask again and again the same question. More I read, less I know. Just as I found that candida- te for my new laptop, dell latitude 13 comes with anti- glare screen and all hardware well supported, forums reveal that it's 320gb

Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-12 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:18:58 +0200 Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs wrote: Comes a time to ask again and again the same question. More I read, less I know. Just as I found that candida- te for my new laptop, dell latitude 13 comes with anti- glare screen and all hardware well supported, forums