Re: TOP shows above 100% WCPU usage

2006-08-23 Thread Kip Macy
I've seen with libthr. What libraries are you using?

  -Kip



On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Jiawei Ye wrote:

 On 8/16/06, Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   How can mysql use 160%? Is this a reporting bug in top because mysql is
   threaded?
 
  You have multiple CPUs, so a threaded process can theoretically reach
  100*ncpus cpu usage.
 
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 I am seeing this on a UP system too.

 last pid: 35355;  load averages:  0.36,  0.08,  0.03up 1+12:11:39  
 12:20:56
 205 processes: 3 running, 202 sleeping
 CPU states: 97.8% user,  0.0% nice,  1.5% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.7% idle
 Mem: 122M Active, 52M Inact, 59M Wired, 7808K Cache, 34M Buf, 524K Free
 Swap: 1024M Total, 40M Used, 984M Free, 3% Inuse

   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 35343 www22   40   275M 64620K accept   0:21 271.92% java
   767 jabber  1  910  8836K  1284K select   7:07  0.00% perl5.8.8
   875 pgsql   1  910 19880K  1748K select   0:20  0.00% postgres
   840 vscan   1   40 22892K 18304K accept   0:17  0.00% clamd
  4733 www27   40 17428K  3268K kqread   0:10  0.00% httpd

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Re: TOP shows above 100% WCPU usage

2006-08-23 Thread Jiawei Ye

On 8/23/06, Kip Macy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've seen with libthr. What libraries are you using?

  -Kip

libthr :)

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suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Willem Jan Withagen

Hi,

I've ran into sort of a snag with building a 2T file server.
Given all the good press here for 3ware and the talk to the guys at the CeBIT 
I decided to go for a 9550SX-LP8.

With that I bought a ASUS serverboard: K8N-LR with 165 dual core opteron.

In itself is this a combo that I thing would do for a long time at my home. ;)

However the 3ware controler decided not to play nice with 2 of the PCI-X 
boards I have here. It gets stuck in the bios disc scan. I've RMA-ed the card, 
but my guess is that it'll take a too long a time to fix/replace it for my 
patience.


So I'm looking for alternatives with good support under amd64. I've seen that 
the Adaptecs are supported under aac(4). But what about Promisse or Highpoint 
RAID controllers?


Thanx,
--WjW
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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Steven Hartland

The Areca cards I can recommend. Highpoint 1820a is surprisingly good
for its price and the later cards have better performance still apparently.
N.B. Use the min stripe size when creating the array for max performance
with this card under FreeBSD.

   Steve

Willem Jan Withagen wrote:

Hi,

I've ran into sort of a snag with building a 2T file server.
Given all the good press here for 3ware and the talk to the guys at
the CeBIT I decided to go for a 9550SX-LP8.
With that I bought a ASUS serverboard: K8N-LR with 165 dual core
opteron. 


In itself is this a combo that I thing would do for a long time at my
home. ;) 


However the 3ware controler decided not to play nice with 2 of the
PCI-X boards I have here. It gets stuck in the bios disc scan. I've
RMA-ed the card, but my guess is that it'll take a too long a time to
fix/replace it for my patience.

So I'm looking for alternatives with good support under amd64. I've
seen that the Adaptecs are supported under aac(4). But what about
Promisse or Highpoint RAID controllers?




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_malloc_prefork not found

2006-08-23 Thread S.N.Grigoriev
Hi All,

I've updated from amd64 6.1-RELEASE to 6-STABLE.
All works fine. The only problem: when xmms or
firefox starts the following message appears:

/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libpthread.so.2: Undefined symbol _malloc_prefork

The Ports tree is fresh. Both xmms and firefox have been rebuilt.
Who knows what have I do to fix the problem?

Thanks,
Serguey.
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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Willem Jan Withagen

Steven Hartland wrote:

The Areca cards I can recommend. Highpoint 1820a is surprisingly good
for its price and the later cards have better performance still apparently.
N.B. Use the min stripe size when creating the array for max performance
with this card under FreeBSD.


I was more thinking along the lines of a HighPoint 2720, but perhaps a 1820 
would also do fine. What device driver would one use with that.


[Ahhh, 'man -k highpoint' is your friend]
Now what I liked about the 3ware stuff was that there are tools to work the 
raid from within FreeBSD. So that would require the newers ones...


But the hardware list is only showing the 2320 and 2322 with a rr232x(4) 
driver. Which sort of makes me wonder for all the other stuff and their drivers.


The motherboard has both PCI-X and PCI-E so that should not be a connector 
problem. Now which bus is faster: 64Bit PCI-X at 133 Mhz, or a PCI-E 16x?


--WjW


Willem Jan Withagen wrote:

Hi,

I've ran into sort of a snag with building a 2T file server.
Given all the good press here for 3ware and the talk to the guys at
the CeBIT I decided to go for a 9550SX-LP8.
With that I bought a ASUS serverboard: K8N-LR with 165 dual core
opteron.
In itself is this a combo that I thing would do for a long time at my
home. ;)
However the 3ware controler decided not to play nice with 2 of the
PCI-X boards I have here. It gets stuck in the bios disc scan. I've
RMA-ed the card, but my guess is that it'll take a too long a time to
fix/replace it for my patience.

So I'm looking for alternatives with good support under amd64. I've
seen that the Adaptecs are supported under aac(4). But what about
Promisse or Highpoint RAID controllers?


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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Steven Hartland

Willem Jan Withagen wrote:

Steven Hartland wrote:

The Areca cards I can recommend. Highpoint 1820a is surprisingly good
for its price and the later cards have better performance still
apparently. N.B. Use the min stripe size when creating the array for
max performance with this card under FreeBSD.


I was more thinking along the lines of a HighPoint 2720, but perhaps
a 1820 would also do fine. What device driver would one use with that.


I've had no direct experience with the newer cards I'm afraid so cant
comment. If you go for the 1820 it must be the 1820a which is hardware
raid vs the 1820 which is software.


[Ahhh, 'man -k highpoint' is your friend]
Now what I liked about the 3ware stuff was that there are tools to
work the raid from within FreeBSD. So that would require the newers
ones... 


All the tools for the 1820a work nicely under FreeBSD 6.1 :)


But the hardware list is only showing the 2320 and 2322 with a
rr232x(4) driver. Which sort of makes me wonder for all the other
stuff and their drivers.


232x has native support but I've never heard of the 2720 not even
mentioned on their site 2220 perhaps? This has a driver for FreeBSD
also including an open source version.


The motherboard has both PCI-X and PCI-E so that should not be a
connector problem. Now which bus is faster: 64Bit PCI-X at 133 Mhz,
or a PCI-E 16x? 


Not really the right question as most cards are only x1 PCI-E cards.
That said I dont know for sure but I suspect they have very similar
capabilites.
   
   Steve




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Re: _malloc_prefork not found

2006-08-23 Thread Daniel Eischen

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, S.N.Grigoriev wrote:


Hi All,

I've updated from amd64 6.1-RELEASE to 6-STABLE.
All works fine. The only problem: when xmms or
firefox starts the following message appears:

/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libpthread.so.2: Undefined symbol _malloc_prefork

The Ports tree is fresh. Both xmms and firefox have been rebuilt.
Who knows what have I do to fix the problem?


Your system is not consistent.  There is no _malloc_prefork()
(or _malloc_foofork()) in -stable; it only exists in -current.
You've got -current libraries (at least libpthread) on -stable.
libpthread is installed in /usr/lib in RELENG_6, not /lib.
So if you've downgraded from -current, you'll need to remove
the -current libraries that have different locations in
RELENG_6 (no, I don't think there is an automated way to do
this).

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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Bob Willcox
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:02:47PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
 Steven Hartland wrote:
 The Areca cards I can recommend. Highpoint 1820a is surprisingly good
 for its price and the later cards have better performance still apparently.
 N.B. Use the min stripe size when creating the array for max performance
 with this card under FreeBSD.
 
 I was more thinking along the lines of a HighPoint 2720, but perhaps a 1820 
 would also do fine. What device driver would one use with that.
 
 [Ahhh, 'man -k highpoint' is your friend]
 Now what I liked about the 3ware stuff was that there are tools to work the 
 raid from within FreeBSD. So that would require the newers ones...
 
 But the hardware list is only showing the 2320 and 2322 with a rr232x(4) 
 driver. Which sort of makes me wonder for all the other stuff and their 
 drivers.
 
 The motherboard has both PCI-X and PCI-E so that should not be a connector 
 problem. Now which bus is faster: 64Bit PCI-X at 133 Mhz, or a PCI-E 16x?

The x16 PCI-E has considerably faster theoretical speed than 133 PCI-X
(appx. 4GBs vs. 1GBs). However, the RAID controllers that I've seen are
at most x8 so they are only capable of transfer rates half that fast
(2GBs). Personally, I would go with PCI-E since in some performance
tests I did with Areca cards last year (both PCI-E and PCI-X) there
appeared to be a slight performance advantage to the PCI-E cards (sorry,
I don't recall any of the specifics anymore, so please take that for
what it's worth).

BTW, I've had good experience with the Areca cards in FreeBSD (recent
stable).

Bob

 
 --WjW
 
 Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've ran into sort of a snag with building a 2T file server.
 Given all the good press here for 3ware and the talk to the guys at
 the CeBIT I decided to go for a 9550SX-LP8.
 With that I bought a ASUS serverboard: K8N-LR with 165 dual core
 opteron.
 In itself is this a combo that I thing would do for a long time at my
 home. ;)
 However the 3ware controler decided not to play nice with 2 of the
 PCI-X boards I have here. It gets stuck in the bios disc scan. I've
 RMA-ed the card, but my guess is that it'll take a too long a time to
 fix/replace it for my patience.
 
 So I'm looking for alternatives with good support under amd64. I've
 seen that the Adaptecs are supported under aac(4). But what about
 Promisse or Highpoint RAID controllers?
 
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Re: _malloc_prefork not found

2006-08-23 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 07:17:40AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
 Your system is not consistent.  There is no _malloc_prefork()
 (or _malloc_foofork()) in -stable; it only exists in -current.
 You've got -current libraries (at least libpthread) on -stable.
 libpthread is installed in /usr/lib in RELENG_6, not /lib.
 So if you've downgraded from -current, you'll need to remove
 the -current libraries that have different locations in
 RELENG_6 (no, I don't think there is an automated way to do
 this).
 
We don't provide any convenience scripts for downgrades.


Cheers,
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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Greg Martin
I find it hard to believe nobody has mentioned 3ware, they are a bit
more expensive but you pay for top notch quality, stability...

Their newer cards support PCI-X and SATA II /w hotswap.


-Greg
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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Willem Jan Withagen

Greg Martin wrote:

I find it hard to believe nobody has mentioned 3ware, they are a bit
more expensive but you pay for top notch quality, stability...

Their newer cards support PCI-X and SATA II /w hotswap.


Well the message started by saying that I got caught by a 3ware card that did 
not want to play nice with me.

So I guess nobody deared suggesting another 3ware card.
;)

--WjW

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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Bob Willcox
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:05:18AM -0500, Greg Martin wrote:
 I find it hard to believe nobody has mentioned 3ware, they are a bit
 more expensive but you pay for top notch quality, stability...
 
 Their newer cards support PCI-X and SATA II /w hotswap.

BTW, just as a data point, my Areca controller (ARC-1210) has on several
occasions demonstrated it's ability to recover nicely from drive
failures. One of my Maxtor disks has this bad habit of periodically
hanging. Popping the drive out and putting it back in causes the
controller to immediately notice it and begin an automatic background
rebuild (its a RAID5 configuration w/four 500GB disks). The rebuild
takes about three hours to complete (on an unloaded system).

Bob

 
 
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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Greg Martin

 Well the message started by saying that I got caught by a 3ware card that did 
 not want to play nice with me.
 So I guess nobody deared suggesting another 3ware card.
 ;)

My apologies, I now understand its a hardware issue.  Before you toss
the 3ware completely try the following (although I am sure you have)

1. Force PCI-x 64bit in the bios on the slot
2. Disable APIC or force old APIC mode
3. Disable onboard raid and/or SATA controller if its avail.

My experience with some boards you really have to tweak around to get
pci-x going.

Sorry if I've wasted your time !

-Greg
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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 8/23/06, Willem Jan Withagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I've ran into sort of a snag with building a 2T file server.
Given all the good press here for 3ware and the talk to the guys at the CeBIT
I decided to go for a 9550SX-LP8.
With that I bought a ASUS serverboard: K8N-LR with 165 dual core opteron.

In itself is this a combo that I thing would do for a long time at my home. ;)

However the 3ware controler decided not to play nice with 2 of the PCI-X
boards I have here. It gets stuck in the bios disc scan.



Disable int 13. The card is probably trying to load it's boot BIOS and
another card is interfering with it... I had a Promise card that loved
to f**k with my HighPoint controller. The solution to the problem was
disabling int 13 on the HighPoint card by re-flashing the cards BIOS
with a special switch set, I didn't need to boot from this card
anyways.


So I'm looking for alternatives with good support under amd64. I've seen that
the Adaptecs are supported under aac(4). But what about Promisse or Highpoint
RAID controllers?



Stay away from Adaptec and Promise because they don't support FreeBSD.
I would recommend Areca and/or HighPoint because they do officially
support FreeBSD. 3Ware does support FreeBSD but I don't have
experience with their cards so I can't say anything good or bad about
them.

If you want to go 64-bit Areca drivers are open source and the FreeBSD
man page states that they work on amd64.


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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Willem Jan Withagen

Greg Martin wrote:
Well the message started by saying that I got caught by a 3ware card that did 
not want to play nice with me.

So I guess nobody deared suggesting another 3ware card.
;)


My apologies, I now understand its a hardware issue.  Before you toss
the 3ware completely try the following (although I am sure you have)

1. Force PCI-x 64bit in the bios on the slot
2. Disable APIC or force old APIC mode
3. Disable onboard raid and/or SATA controller if its avail.

My experience with some boards you really have to tweak around to get
pci-x going.


Thanx for the usefull suggestions.

However: I've already returned the board to the supplier after I fiddled for 
about a day with the bios.  Which was very cumbersome, since every change 
required:

power off
remove card
power on
change bios
power off
insert card
power on
test.
En start all over.

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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 8/23/06, Bob Willcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:02:47PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
 Steven Hartland wrote:
 The Areca cards I can recommend. Highpoint 1820a is surprisingly good
 for its price and the later cards have better performance still apparently.
 N.B. Use the min stripe size when creating the array for max performance
 with this card under FreeBSD.

 I was more thinking along the lines of a HighPoint 2720, but perhaps a 1820
 would also do fine. What device driver would one use with that.

 [Ahhh, 'man -k highpoint' is your friend]
 Now what I liked about the 3ware stuff was that there are tools to work the
 raid from within FreeBSD. So that would require the newers ones...

 But the hardware list is only showing the 2320 and 2322 with a rr232x(4)
 driver. Which sort of makes me wonder for all the other stuff and their
 drivers.

 The motherboard has both PCI-X and PCI-E so that should not be a connector
 problem. Now which bus is faster: 64Bit PCI-X at 133 Mhz, or a PCI-E 16x?

The x16 PCI-E has considerably faster theoretical speed than 133 PCI-X
(appx. 4GBs vs. 1GBs). However, the RAID controllers that I've seen are
at most x8 so they are only capable of transfer rates half that fast
(2GBs). Personally, I would go with PCI-E since in some performance
tests I did with Areca cards last year (both PCI-E and PCI-X) there
appeared to be a slight performance advantage to the PCI-E cards (sorry,
I don't recall any of the specifics anymore, so please take that for
what it's worth).



I agree. PCIe 8x is a faster bus and it's typically connected directly
to the MCH (north bridge) unlike PCI-X which is stuck on the ICH
(south bridge). Also the 2GB/s that was quoted for PCIe 8x is it's
one-way data rate after calculating in overhead. It's a dual simplex
interface meaning it has one path to send data and another path to
receive data. Imagine a simple two lane road.
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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 8/23/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 8/23/06, Bob Willcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:02:47PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
  Steven Hartland wrote:
  The Areca cards I can recommend. Highpoint 1820a is surprisingly good
  for its price and the later cards have better performance still apparently.
  N.B. Use the min stripe size when creating the array for max performance
  with this card under FreeBSD.
 
  I was more thinking along the lines of a HighPoint 2720, but perhaps a 1820
  would also do fine. What device driver would one use with that.
 
  [Ahhh, 'man -k highpoint' is your friend]
  Now what I liked about the 3ware stuff was that there are tools to work the
  raid from within FreeBSD. So that would require the newers ones...
 
  But the hardware list is only showing the 2320 and 2322 with a rr232x(4)
  driver. Which sort of makes me wonder for all the other stuff and their
  drivers.
 
  The motherboard has both PCI-X and PCI-E so that should not be a connector
  problem. Now which bus is faster: 64Bit PCI-X at 133 Mhz, or a PCI-E 16x?

 The x16 PCI-E has considerably faster theoretical speed than 133 PCI-X
 (appx. 4GBs vs. 1GBs). However, the RAID controllers that I've seen are
 at most x8 so they are only capable of transfer rates half that fast
 (2GBs). Personally, I would go with PCI-E since in some performance
 tests I did with Areca cards last year (both PCI-E and PCI-X) there
 appeared to be a slight performance advantage to the PCI-E cards (sorry,
 I don't recall any of the specifics anymore, so please take that for
 what it's worth).


I agree. PCIe 8x is a faster bus and it's typically connected directly
to the MCH (north bridge) unlike PCI-X which is stuck on the ICH
(south bridge). Also the 2GB/s that was quoted for PCIe 8x is it's
one-way data rate after calculating in overhead. It's a dual simplex
interface meaning it has one path to send data and another path to
receive data. Imagine a simple two lane road.



I take that back. For PCIe 8x imagine a divided highway with 8 lanes
in each direction. The speed limit for each lane of traffic is
250MegaBytes/sec. So if you can move 8 semi-trucks filled with data in
parallel your effective data rate is 2GigaBytes/sec. simple eh? :-)


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Junk Pointer Error

2006-08-23 Thread Matthias Schuendehuette

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Hi,

I compiled net/krb5 today on my 6.1-STABLE machine. As I tried to  
initialize Kerberos with '/usr/local/bin/kinit User@Domain I got  
the following error:


kinit in free(): error: junk pointer, too high to make sense
Abort trap: 6 (core dumped)

The same programs on my FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE server run OK without  
such an error.


'smbd' died with the same error later on...

This is a severe problem since I have to use MIT-Kerberos to connect  
to our AD-Domain...


Is there something I can do to avoid this problem?

Matthew
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Re: Junk Pointer Error

2006-08-23 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Matthias Schuendehuette wrote:
I compiled net/krb5 today on my 6.1-STABLE machine. As I tried to  
initialize Kerberos with '/usr/local/bin/kinit User@Domain I  
got the following error:


kinit in free(): error: junk pointer, too high to make sense
Abort trap: 6 (core dumped)


Sure your hardware is OK?  Try running memtest86 or a hardware  
diagnostic from your vendor, and double-check your fans  PSU...


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Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:07:45PM +0300, Todorov @ Paladin wrote:
 Also - why portupgrade is not always aware of
 previously chosen options for a port build?
 
It depends.  If options are OPTIONS (in the ports sense), they
are saved and independent of portupgrade.  If options are
makefile options specified in pkgtools.conf, they are only
taken into accont if the port is (re)build explicitly; they
are not taken into account if a port is (re)built as a
dependency of another port.  In plain text: if port B has
options in pkgtools.conf, and port A has B as its dependency,
and you portinstall/portupgrade A, B will be built (if needs
be) without pkgtools.conf options.  Be careful.


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Re: Junk Pointer Error

2006-08-23 Thread Matthias Schuendehuette

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Hi Chuck,

Am 23.08.2006 um 21:25 schrieb Chuck Swiger:

Sure your hardware is OK?  Try running memtest86 or a hardware  
diagnostic from your vendor, and double-check your fans  PSU...


Hmm, I fear I'm never sure...

But I'll try to compile krb5 on my laptop - a different machine,  
which should not have the same memory problems...
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Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Doug Barton
Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:07:45PM +0300, Todorov @ Paladin wrote:
 Also - why portupgrade is not always aware of
 previously chosen options for a port build?

 It depends.  If options are OPTIONS (in the ports sense), they
 are saved and independent of portupgrade.  If options are
 makefile options specified in pkgtools.conf, they are only
 taken into accont if the port is (re)build explicitly; they
 are not taken into account if a port is (re)built as a
 dependency of another port.  In plain text: if port B has
 options in pkgtools.conf, and port A has B as its dependency,
 and you portinstall/portupgrade A, B will be built (if needs
 be) without pkgtools.conf options.  Be careful.

sysutils/portconf does not have that limitation. If you specify flags using
that method, they will always be used.

FYI,

Doug

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Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 12:23:00PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 
 In practice, however, pretty much all software nowadays depends on  
 shared libraries, so it's reasonable to do a pkg_delete -a after  
 upgrading to a new major version of FreeBSD, and then reinstall all  
 of the ports you use once you've finished upgrading.  Run pkg_info  
 before the upgrade and keep track of this output to help you remember  
 what ports you've got installed...

As a possible point of clarification, my comments earlier (and, I
suspect similar comments of others) were not meant to imply that one
should not rebuild ports after a major upgrade, but only that one need
not do so _before_ upgrading.

[...probably ... it worked for me ... YMMV ... if it is a critical
package, then it wouldn't hurt to rebuild it first ... usw.]


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Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Aug 23, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Greg Byshenk wrote:

As a possible point of clarification, my comments earlier (and, I
suspect similar comments of others) were not meant to imply that one
should not rebuild ports after a major upgrade, but only that one need
not do so _before_ upgrading.

[...probably ... it worked for me ... YMMV ... if it is a critical
package, then it wouldn't hurt to rebuild it first ... usw.]


Oh, certainly-- FreeBSD's COMPAT stuff will let you run binaries  
compiled against an older version of FreeBSD just fine for almost all  
circumstances.  However, as soon as you try to install a new port  
which depends on something already installed, or upgrade anything,  
you pretty much really need to upgrade *everything* to be sure that  
you don't compile new executables which depend on a mixture of COMPAT  
and current libraries...


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Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Helge Oldach
Chuck Swiger:
FreeBSD's COMPAT stuff will let you run binaries  
compiled against an older version of FreeBSD just fine for almost all  
circumstances.  However, as soon as you try to install a new port  
which depends on something already installed, or upgrade anything,  
you pretty much really need to upgrade *everything* to be sure that  
you don't compile new executables which depend on a mixture of COMPAT  
and current libraries...

Yep. Also beware of make delete-old and make delete-old-libs, and
ports that build differently depending on the OS version...

Helge
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Re: suggestions for SATA RAID cards

2006-08-23 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:23:00AM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote:
 The Areca cards I can recommend. Highpoint 1820a is surprisingly good

Many many years ago I bought a HighPoint HPT366 ATA66 controller.
Thought its a good deal because it was cheap.
Thought, an ATA interface can't be that complicated anymore
so that its safe to buy a cheap product.

Turned out that I was very wrong with my theorie.
I ran into timeout problems, that couldn't be fixed.

After days and nights of troubleshooting and testing
I didn't get it to work reliably.

I replaced it by buying a more expensive Promise controller.
Since then I had zero problems.

Since that time I lost trust in HighPoint products.

Good stuff has its price. It must not always be the
most expensive hardware. But going with the cheapest
(and I assume the HighPoint product will again be
in the low price segment) can be troublesome.

Andreas ///

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Re: _malloc_prefork not found

2006-08-23 Thread S.N.Grigoriev
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:17:40 -0400 (EDT)
Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, S.N.Grigoriev wrote:
 
  Hi All,
 
  I've updated from amd64 6.1-RELEASE to 6-STABLE.
  All works fine. The only problem: when xmms or
  firefox starts the following message appears:
 
  /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libpthread.so.2: Undefined symbol 
  _malloc_prefork
 
  The Ports tree is fresh. Both xmms and firefox have been rebuilt.
  Who knows what have I do to fix the problem?
 
 Your system is not consistent.  There is no _malloc_prefork()
 (or _malloc_foofork()) in -stable; it only exists in -current.
 You've got -current libraries (at least libpthread) on -stable.
 libpthread is installed in /usr/lib in RELENG_6, not /lib.
 So if you've downgraded from -current, you'll need to remove
 the -current libraries that have different locations in
 RELENG_6 (no, I don't think there is an automated way to do
 this).
 
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Daniel,

I thank You very much for Your comment.
I've removed all the -current libraries from my system
and now all works fine.

Regards,
Serguey.
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