Re: SATA 6g 4-port non-RAID controller ?

2011-07-28 Thread Jan Mikkelsen
Hi,

On 28/07/2011, at 2:55 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 [ … ]
 Perhaps I'm being thick, but this says a 16x slot on this board does not 
 support a display card not a 16x slot on this board only supports a 
 display card.
 
 The examples you cite only support the vice-versa part of your claim, not 
 the primary claim that 16x slots on some motherboards are only for display 
 cards. Do you have a reference for that?
 
 You're not being thick.  I'm simply using what's in the manual as a
 hard, validated example that the *type* of card that goes into a PCIe
 x16 slot can matter, and that some types are compatible while others are
 not.
 
 I cannot find you a hard documented reference for my claims right now,
 so you can consider them lies/FUD/whatever for the time being, that's
 fine by me at this point.
 
 I can find you examples on Google of people who invested in Areca
 ARC-1220 cards (PCIe x8) only to find out that when inserted into one of
 their two PCIe x16 slots the mainboard wouldn't start (see above).  I can
 also find you examples on Google of people with Intel 915GM chipsets
 whose user manuals explicitly state the PCIe x16 slot on their board is
 intended for use with graphics cards only.

Just trying to understand; I think I can recall reading about issues with the 
915 chipset. I agree a check, don't assume warning is reasonable.

Regards,

Jan.


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UDP Packet reassembly

2011-07-28 Thread Stephen Clark

Hello List,

Could someone enlighten me as to when FreeBSD 6.3 does UDP packet 
reassembly?


I am having a problem where I am getting a fragmented udp packet (2 
pieces) everthing is
fine if I get the first frag first. but if the second frag comes first 
then both fragments get dropped.


I am using ipfilter and a bimap to redirect these packets to a host 
inside of the FreeBSD box,

so I suspicion it is ipfilter causing the drops.

I know, I know 6.3 is ancient history, but any insight would be appreciated.

Thank,
Steve

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decreases.  (Thomas Jefferson)



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Re: UDP Packet reassembly

2011-07-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Stephen Clark wrote:
 Could someone enlighten me as to when FreeBSD 6.3 does UDP packet reassembly?

Packet reassembly is done at the IP layer, not the UDP layer.  Normally, 
reassembly is performed on the destination host, but routers or firewalls along 
the path conceivably might also reassemble packets.

 I am having a problem where I am getting a fragmented udp packet (2 pieces) 
 everthing is
 fine if I get the first frag first. but if the second frag comes first then 
 both fragments get dropped.
 
 I am using ipfilter and a bimap to redirect these packets to a host inside of 
 the FreeBSD box,
 so I suspicion it is ipfilter causing the drops.
 
 I know, I know 6.3 is ancient history, but any insight would be appreciated.

It's probably the firewall dropping the traffic, yes-- running tcpdump on the 
firewall versus the destination host would confirm this.  Something like keep 
frags on your pass rules would help if it is ipfilter...

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: UDP Packet reassembly

2011-07-28 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 7/28/2011 3:01 PM, Stephen Clark wrote:
 Hello List,
 
 Could someone enlighten me as to when FreeBSD 6.3 does UDP packet
 reassembly?
 
 I am having a problem where I am getting a fragmented udp packet (2
 pieces) everthing is
 fine if I get the first frag first. but if the second frag comes first
 then both fragments get dropped.
 
 I am using ipfilter and a bimap to redirect these packets to a host
 inside of the FreeBSD box,
 so I suspicion it is ipfilter causing the drops.

Not sure, but you try pf instead ?  And use

scrub log fragment reassemble

---Mike

 
 I know, I know 6.3 is ancient history, but any insight would be
 appreciated.
 
 Thank,
 Steve
 


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Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop

2011-07-28 Thread Jim Bryant
heh, the dv-series  really nice exterior, but, inside, poor choices 
in cable routing, increased use of polymer ribbons prone to breakage and 
open circuit from even a single disassembly (lint/dust is the #1 laptop 
killer, they have to be cleaned out regularly, no less than twice a year 
in most environments), undocumented screws and chinese finger puzzles, 
undocumented cables, incorrect instructions, parts that don't exist, 
parts that exist but aren't documented, incorrect part numbers


Interestingly, my primary laptops (two of them for me, and one for the 
lady) are Compaq C-300 series (upgraded to the 945GM motherboard and 
T7600 65nm Core2 Duo) are reliable to the extreme, well-documented 
(except for that one screw with the silk-screened arrow pointing at it 
in the upper left of the mobo), a complete airpath cleaning with 
practice can be done in about an hour with three screwdrivers, a muffin 
tin, pad and paper (which screws in which muffin hole), a toothbrush, 
unscented toilet paper (wipe the silicon to a mirror finish again), and 
arctic silver 5.  The series is also labeled as the HP G-3000 series.  
The Compaq C-500 series is in the same chassis with only minor changes.  
The problem lies in that most of these were sold with the 940GML chipset 
(Celery only), but 945GM was an option and those mobos are about $100 
USD +- $30 USD on eBay, mostly HannStar refurbs from China.  These were 
introduced in 2007, and must be flashed to the most recent BIOS before 
putting in a Core2 Duo T7200 to T7600.  My only complaint under BSD has 
been the Mini-PCI has bad ACPI, as the broadcom and intel driver both 
will panic the system at the worst, or at minimum refuse to load the 
driver with a could not allocate resource.  No biggie, it works under 
winblowz xp and 7.  Under BSD, just use a USB wifi.  Interestingly, 
under SuSE, the NDIS driver for the broadcom wifi does work.  
Conclusion: Get a Compaq C-300 or C-500 series system, preferably 
non-working (most likely a 940GML/Celery anyway), put in a good 945GM 
replacement board, and you will have a reliable, reasonably recent, 
low-cost laptop, just remember to clean it out when idle is in the mid 
to high 70's Celsius.


The newer dv-series laptops are slick and all that on the outside, and 
very tempting when you play with it at the store, but they were made 
with the intent that people throw them away instead of having regular 
maintenance performed (cleaning), based on the number I have repaired, 
all needing new motherboards.  Don't spend $800-1500 on a laptop that 
will fail in a year or two and be that hard to clean without having to 
buy replacement parts (ribbons, cable bundles, etc).  STAY AWAY FROM HP 
dv-ANYTHING ESPECIALLY!!!  THE AMD VERSIONS ARE EVEN MORE PRONE TO 
FAILURE!!!


Chip Camden wrote:

Quoth Jim Bryant on Thursday, 14 July 2011:
  

stay away from newer hp laptops.

been repairing laptops for money in recent years.  HP laptops made after 
2008 generally have serious issues with BGA lifting, and usually require 
motherboard replacement after 1-2 years.  also their manuals have even 
more undocumented disassembly instructions, as well as incorrect 
disassembly instructions (use common sense and your eyes, following 
instructions will destroy hp laptops).





Another data point: I bought an hp dv9000t in 2007, three years later the
motherboard died.  I agree with avoiding HP.  I like my ASUS K72F, except
that the Ironlake graphics aren't yet supported (soon, right Kostik?)

  


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Re: SATA 6g 4-port non-RAID controller ?

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2011-Jul-28 17:57:52 +1000, Jan Mikkelsen j...@transactionware.com wrote:
On 28/07/2011, at 2:55 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 I can find you examples on Google of people who invested in Areca
 ARC-1220 cards (PCIe x8) only to find out that when inserted into one of
 their two PCIe x16 slots the mainboard wouldn't start (see above).  I can
 also find you examples on Google of people with Intel 915GM chipsets
 whose user manuals explicitly state the PCIe x16 slot on their board is
 intended for use with graphics cards only.

Just trying to understand; I think I can recall reading about issues
with the 915 chipset. I agree a check, don't assume warning is
reasonable.

I have also run into problems (wouldn't POST from memory) trying to
use a NIC in the x16 slot of Dell GX620 boxes, which use an i945
chipset.

-- 
Peter Jeremy


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