Re: Two questions for FreeBSD 11: libgcc & pkg

[Matthieu Volat]

First, thanks for your time!

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:14:49 -0700
Kevin Oberman  wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Matthieu Volat  wrote:
> 
> > Hi, if somebody would be kind enough to educate me, I've two small
> > questions about the 11 release.
> >
> >
> > First, https://wiki.freebsd.org/WhatsNew/FreeBSD11 mention that libgcc
> > was replaced by libcompiler_rt, yet after the freebsd-update
> > upgrade/install/install/portmaster -af/install routine, I still have a
> > (recently updated) libgcc:
> >
> >   # ls -l /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
> >   -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  56608 Jul 26 14:13 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
> >
> > Is it normal?
> >  
> 
> I think so, but I am not sure. Is libcompiler_rt found? It seems likely the
> old library is retrained for existing images linked to it while
> libcompiler_rt is now used when new images are linked. (N.B. This is a
> guess, though.)

Things are a bit strange: there is a  static libcompiler_rt library in 
/usr/lib. A few executable in /usr/bin seems to still use libgcc (groff/troff 
stuff mainly). So maybe this is still in a transitional stage... Base cc/c+++ 
seems to be sane since I managed to rebuild all the installed ports.

> 
> 
> > Second question is about the talks that the base system would be
> > pkg-ized (https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase). Do base pkgs share the same
> > pkg database as ports pkgs? Can I now damage base installation with bad pkg
> > usage?
> >  
> 
> I don't have the message handy, but several issues popped up that forced
> the delay if the packaging of teh base system until at least 11.1. You can
> probably look in the current@ archive to find the note.

Thanks, I was not sure I did not miss some pre-release instruction to migrate 
settings as nothing would show up in pkg info and such.

> 
> 
> > Thanks a lot for answers!
> >
> > --
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> >  
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Re: Two questions for FreeBSD 11: libgcc & pkg

[Kevin Oberman]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Matthieu Volat  wrote:

> Hi, if somebody would be kind enough to educate me, I've two small
> questions about the 11 release.
>
>
> First, https://wiki.freebsd.org/WhatsNew/FreeBSD11 mention that libgcc
> was replaced by libcompiler_rt, yet after the freebsd-update
> upgrade/install/install/portmaster -af/install routine, I still have a
> (recently updated) libgcc:
>
>   # ls -l /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
>   -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  56608 Jul 26 14:13 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
>
> Is it normal?
>

I think so, but I am not sure. Is libcompiler_rt found? It seems likely the
old library is retrained for existing images linked to it while
libcompiler_rt is now used when new images are linked. (N.B. This is a
guess, though.)


> Second question is about the talks that the base system would be
> pkg-ized (https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase). Do base pkgs share the same
> pkg database as ports pkgs? Can I now damage base installation with bad pkg
> usage?
>

I don't have the message handy, but several issues popped up that forced
the delay if the packaging of teh base system until at least 11.1. You can
probably look in the current@ archive to find the note.


> Thanks a lot for answers!
>
> --
> Matthieu Volat 
>
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Two questions for FreeBSD 11: libgcc & pkg

[Matthieu Volat]

Hi, if somebody would be kind enough to educate me, I've two small questions 
about the 11 release.


First, https://wiki.freebsd.org/WhatsNew/FreeBSD11 mention that libgcc was 
replaced by libcompiler_rt, yet after the freebsd-update 
upgrade/install/install/portmaster -af/install routine, I still have a 
(recently updated) libgcc:

  # ls -l /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
  -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  56608 Jul 26 14:13 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1

Is it normal?


Second question is about the talks that the base system would be
pkg-ized (https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase). Do base pkgs share the same pkg 
database as ports pkgs? Can I now damage base installation with bad pkg usage?


Thanks a lot for answers!

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Re: sed command does not behave equal from 10.3 to 11.0

[Kimmo Paasiala]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Tomoaki AOKI  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> There were some collation related changes (*1) between 10.3 and 11.
> So the results can be changed even with the same locale.
>
> *1: For example, r302512.
>   https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2016-July/088919.html
>
> But I cannot understand why ASCII range of characters are affected with
> UTF-8 encoding.
>
>
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:19:06 +0200
> Jos〓 Garc〓a Juanino  wrote:
>
>> On 27 July 2016 at 11:01, Matthew D. Fuller  wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 09:45:23AM +0100 I heard the voice of
>> > krad, and lo! it spake thus:
>> >> are you sure you aren't hitting a port or something?
>> >
>> > Locale dependant.
>> >
>> > % echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=C sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
>> > ABC
>> >
>> > % echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
>> > bcABCdef
>> >
>> > (pre-branch -CURRENT)
>> >
>>
>> The issue is that, under the same locale, the output is not the same
>> in 10.3 as 11.0. It sounds to me a bug ...
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If I change the invocation to this I get the correct output:

% echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sed -e 's/[^ABC]//g'

Is the real problem that the UTF-8 locale messes up character ranges
(e.g. A-Z) in sed(1)?

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Re: FreeBSD 11.0-BETA2 won't boot on an Acer Aspire 5560

[Kubilay Kocak]

On 27/07/2016 7:22 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> I'm trying to boot the 11.0-BETA2/amd64 memory stick image and the
> kernel panics: (Following copied by hand):
> 
> ACPI APIC Table: 
> ...
> acpi0:  on motherboard
> ACPI Error: Hardware did not change modes (20160527/hwacpi-160)
> ACPI Error: Could not transition to APCI mode (20160527/evxfevnt-105)
> ACPI Warning: AcpiEnable failed (20160527/utxfinit-184)
> acpi0: Could not enable ACPI: AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
> device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6
> 
> Followed by a NULL dereference panic at nexus_acpi_attach+0x89
> 
> The system boots a 10.0-RELEASE/amd64 memstick (the only other image I
> have conveniently to date) without problem.
> 

Thank you for the report Peter

Did it boot prior to 11.0-BETA2? ie; is it a regression?

Please report a bug in bugzilla with version: 11.0-BETA2 and cc
r...@freebsd.org

If it's possible to obtain a backtrace of the panic, please include it
as an attachment:

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html

Setting debug.debugger_on_panic=1 in loader may help get it to the debugger.


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Re: sed command does not behave equal from 10.3 to 11.0

[Tomoaki AOKI]

Hi.

There were some collation related changes (*1) between 10.3 and 11.
So the results can be changed even with the same locale.

*1: For example, r302512.
  https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2016-July/088919.html

But I cannot understand why ASCII range of characters are affected with
UTF-8 encoding.


On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:19:06 +0200
Jos〓 Garc〓a Juanino  wrote:

> On 27 July 2016 at 11:01, Matthew D. Fuller  wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 09:45:23AM +0100 I heard the voice of
> > krad, and lo! it spake thus:
> >> are you sure you aren't hitting a port or something?
> >
> > Locale dependant.
> >
> > % echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=C sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
> > ABC
> >
> > % echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
> > bcABCdef
> >
> > (pre-branch -CURRENT)
> >
> 
> The issue is that, under the same locale, the output is not the same
> in 10.3 as 11.0. It sounds to me a bug ...
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FreeBSD 11.0-BETA2 won't boot on an Acer Aspire 5560

[Peter Jeremy]

I'm trying to boot the 11.0-BETA2/amd64 memory stick image and the
kernel panics: (Following copied by hand):

ACPI APIC Table: 
...
acpi0:  on motherboard
ACPI Error: Hardware did not change modes (20160527/hwacpi-160)
ACPI Error: Could not transition to APCI mode (20160527/evxfevnt-105)
ACPI Warning: AcpiEnable failed (20160527/utxfinit-184)
acpi0: Could not enable ACPI: AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6

Followed by a NULL dereference panic at nexus_acpi_attach+0x89

The system boots a 10.0-RELEASE/amd64 memstick (the only other image I
have conveniently to date) without problem.

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Re: sed command does not behave equal from 10.3 to 11.0

[José García Juanino]

On 27 July 2016 at 11:01, Matthew D. Fuller  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 09:45:23AM +0100 I heard the voice of
> krad, and lo! it spake thus:
>> are you sure you aren't hitting a port or something?
>
> Locale dependant.
>
> % echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=C sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
> ABC
>
> % echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
> bcABCdef
>
> (pre-branch -CURRENT)
>

The issue is that, under the same locale, the output is not the same
in 10.3 as 11.0. It sounds to me a bug ...
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Re: sed command does not behave equal from 10.3 to 11.0

[José García Juanino]

On 27 July 2016 at 10:45, krad  wrote:
> are you sure you aren't hitting a port or something?
>
> #  uname -r ; echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g' ; which sed ; md5
> /usr/bin/sed
> 10.3-STABLE
> ABC
> /usr/bin/sed
> MD5 (/usr/bin/sed) = 34e6aedf3b42cbd6dd8379342626e0db

In 10.3 I get the following:

$ freebsd-version -ku
$ which sed ; md5 /usr/bin/sed
/usr/bin/sed
MD5 (/usr/bin/sed) = 858696b78b6d8ed26a1e9835b1bcd89f


In 11.0-BETA2 I get:

$ freebsd-version -ku
$ which sed ; md5 /usr/bin/sed
/usr/bin/sed
MD5 (/usr/bin/sed) = 229d361061fcf528be12d513ad9a2cf3



I think that the issue is locale or encoding related, as it happens
also with gsed, but *not* with LANG=C:

 $ locale
LANG=es_ES.ISO8859-15
LC_CTYPE="es_ES.ISO8859-15"
LC_COLLATE="es_ES.ISO8859-15"
LC_TIME="es_ES.ISO8859-15"
LC_NUMERIC="es_ES.ISO8859-15"
LC_MONETARY="es_ES.ISO8859-15"
LC_MESSAGES="es_ES.ISO8859-15"
LC_ALL=

$ echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
bcABCdef ### wrong


$ export LANG=C
$  locale
LANG=C
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_ALL=

$ echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
ABC  ##  right
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Re: sed command does not behave equal from 10.3 to 11.0

[Matthew D. Fuller]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 09:45:23AM +0100 I heard the voice of
krad, and lo! it spake thus:
> are you sure you aren't hitting a port or something?

Locale dependant.

% echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=C sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
ABC

% echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
bcABCdef

(pre-branch -CURRENT)


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Re: sed command does not behave equal from 10.3 to 11.0

[krad]

are you sure you aren't hitting a port or something?

#  uname -r ; echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g' ; which sed ;
md5 /usr/bin/sed
10.3-STABLE
ABC
/usr/bin/sed
MD5 (/usr/bin/sed) = 34e6aedf3b42cbd6dd8379342626e0db


#  uname -r ; echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g' ; which sed ;
md5 /usr/bin/sed
11.0-BETA2
ABC
/usr/bin/sed
MD5 (/usr/bin/sed) = d3fddd6bcca17fc597d7c4598c3311d1






On 27 July 2016 at 09:20, José García Juanino  wrote:

> Hi FreeBSD stable,
>
> After upgrade to 11.0-BETA2, a lot of sed scripts are no longer valid:
>
> FreeBSD 10.3
> -
> $ echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
> ABC
>
>
> FreeBSD 11.0
> 
> $ echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
> bcABCdef
>
>
> Indeed, in 11.0 you need to re rewrite the sentence as follows:
>
> $ echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^[:upper:][:digit:]]//g'
> ABC
>
> In linux, sed behaves exactly as 10.3.
>
> Is this behaviour expected or is a bug?
>
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sed command does not behave equal from 10.3 to 11.0

[José García Juanino]

Hi FreeBSD stable,

After upgrade to 11.0-BETA2, a lot of sed scripts are no longer valid:

FreeBSD 10.3
-
$ echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
ABC


FreeBSD 11.0

$ echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g'
bcABCdef


Indeed, in 11.0 you need to re rewrite the sentence as follows:

$ echo "abc_ABC.def" | sed -e 's/[^[:upper:][:digit:]]//g'
ABC

In linux, sed behaves exactly as 10.3.

Is this behaviour expected or is a bug?

Best regards
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