Re: ZFS...

2019-04-29 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Comments inline.. Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 30 Apr 2019, at 03:06, Alan Somers wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:23 AM Michelle Sullivan >> wrote: >> >> I know I'm not going to be popular for this, but I'll just drop it here >> anyhow. >> >>

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-29 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 30 Apr 2019, at 03:13, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > > Hi! > >> I know I'm not going to be popular for this, but I'll just drop it here >> anyhow. >> >> http://www.michellesullivan.org/blog/1726 > > With all due respect, I think if that

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Joe Maloney
With CFT version you chose to build, and package individual components such as sendmail with a port option. That does entirely solve the problem of being able to reinstall sendmail after the fact without a rebuild of the userland (base) port but perhaps base flavors could solve that problem

Creating jails from packagebase

2019-04-29 Thread Martin Jakob
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Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <201904291441.x3tefmid072...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. Grimes" writes: > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:09 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > > freebsd-...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using specific to > > > FreeNAS /

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-29 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > I know I'm not going to be popular for this, but I'll just drop it here > anyhow. > > http://www.michellesullivan.org/blog/1726 With all due respect, I think if that filesystem/server you describe has not kept with all those mishaps, I think it's not perfect, but nothing is. > Perhaps

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-29 Thread Alan Somers
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:23 AM Michelle Sullivan wrote: > > I know I'm not going to be popular for this, but I'll just drop it here > anyhow. > > http://www.michellesullivan.org/blog/1726 > > Perhaps one should reconsider either: > > 1. Looking at tools that may be able to recover corrupt ZFS

ZFS...

2019-04-29 Thread Michelle Sullivan
I know I'm not going to be popular for this, but I'll just drop it here anyhow. http://www.michellesullivan.org/blog/1726 Perhaps one should reconsider either: 1. Looking at tools that may be able to recover corrupt ZFS metadata, or 2. Defaulting to non ZFS filesystems on install. --

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:09 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > freebsd-...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using specific to > > FreeNAS / TrueOS, which is why I didn't originally mention it as apart of > > our CFT. > > > > Then please it is

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread kris
> -Original Message- > From: Matthias Apitz > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 10:50 AM > To: Emmanuel Vadot > Cc: Kris Moore ; FreeBSD Stable sta...@freebsd.org>; freebsd-...@freebsd.org; freebsd- > hack...@freebsd.org; FreeBSD Current ; > freebsd-pkgb...@freebsd.org;

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread kris
> -Original Message- > From: Rodney W. Grimes > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 10:41 AM > To: Kris Moore > Cc: Rodney W. Grimes ; Goran Mekić > ; Emmanuel Vadot ; FreeBSD > Stable ; FreeBSD Current curr...@freebsd.org>; freebsd-pkgb...@freebsd.org; freebsd- > p...@freebsd.org;

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Matthias Apitz
Why this thread has to go to all these lists? I receive any mail 5 times! matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub N € I N zur EU! "Gegen das EU-Europa der Banken, Konzerne und

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 10:05:59 -0400 Kris Moore wrote: > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:55 AM Emmanuel Vadot > wrote: > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:25:05 -0400 > > Kris Moore wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 AM Emmanuel Vadot > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > > > > >

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread kris
> > > > > Incorrect, os/kernel-debug installs /boot/kernel-debug which is (on > > 13-CURRENT) the Witness enabled kernel. os/kernel-debug-symbols are > > the /usr/lib/debug bits. > > I only see kernel-20190420203550_1.txz and kernel-debug- > 20190420203550.txz in

Re: Concern: ZFS Mirror issues (12.STABLE and firmware 19 .v. 20) [[UPDATE w/more tests]]

2019-04-29 Thread Warner Losh
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 4:03 PM Karl Denninger wrote: > On 4/20/2019 15:56, Steven Hartland wrote: > > Thanks for extra info, the next question would be have you eliminated > > that corruption exists before the disk is removed? > > > > Would be interesting to add a zpool scrub to confirm this

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Kris Moore
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:09 AM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using specific to > FreeNAS / TrueOS, which is why I didn't originally mention it as apart of > our CFT. > > Then please it is "CFT: FreeNAS/TrueOS

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using specific to FreeNAS > / TrueOS, which is why I didn't originally mention it as apart of our CFT. Then please it is "CFT: FreeNAS/TrueOS pkg base, ZFS only", calling this FreeBSD pkg base when it is not was wrong, and miss leading.

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Kris Moore
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:55 AM Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:25:05 -0400 > Kris Moore wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 AM Emmanuel Vadot > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:52:21 -0400 > > > wrote: > > > > > > > FreeBSD Community,

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:25:05 -0400 Kris Moore wrote: > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 AM Emmanuel Vadot > wrote: > > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:52:21 -0400 > > wrote: > > > > > FreeBSD Community, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread kris
Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using specific to FreeNAS / TrueOS, which is why I didn't originally mention it as apart of our CFT. For UFS, there will need to be additional care taken when doing updates. -- Kris Moore Vice President of Engineering iXsystems, Inc Ph:

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Goran Mekić
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Kris Moore wrote: > We've written our own tool "sysutils/sysup" in GO which handles this. It > performs updates using Boot-Environments to ensure that kernel/world are > updated at same time. If I'm right, UFS doesn't support boot environments, so how

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Kris Moore
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 AM Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > Hi Kris, > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:52:21 -0400 > wrote: > > > FreeBSD Community, > > > > > > > > I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and > 13-current > > using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
Hi Kris, On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:52:21 -0400 wrote: > FreeBSD Community, > > > > I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and 13-current > using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock FreeBSD images which > will allow users to perform all updating via the

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/04/2019 11:52, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: This situation should be improved. Given that etcupdate is in all supported releases, we can even update UPDATING and the Handbook. So, does anyone have a pointer to the official procedure? Basically run: # etcupdate towards the end of

FreeBSD Continuous Weekly Report 2019-04-28

2019-04-29 Thread Li-Wen Hsu
(bcc -current and -stable for more audience) FreeBSD CI Weekly Report 2019-04-28 === Here is a summary of the FreeBSD Continuous Integration results for the period from 2019-04-22 to 2019-04-28. During this period, we have: * 2358 builds (96.9% passed, 3.1%

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Christoph Moench-Tegeder (c...@burggraben.net): > in a few entries without any detail. The Handbook (chapter 25.3) only ^ 23.5, of course. Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space ___

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Lars Engels (lars.eng...@0x20.net): > > What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as “mergemaster”? > > Is there anything exciting and new there either in base or any of the > > ixSystems projects? > > There's /usr/sbin/etcupdate in base. Unfortunately, the official documentation

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 09:29:37PM -0400, Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable wrote: > > > What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as “mergemaster”? > Is there anything exciting and new there either in base or any of the > ixSystems projects? There's /usr/sbin/etcupdate in base.