Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life

2020-02-18 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi all, > Am 18.02.2020 um 18:44 schrieb Pete French : > Both the DRM issue and VirtualBox are fixed by making sure you recompile and > install the kernel modules from the source in /usr/ports when you upgrade the > OS, or if 'pkg upgrade' overwrites them. Its a bit annnoying, but hardly a >

Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life

2020-02-18 Thread Pete French
On 18/Feb/2020 17:19, Tomasz CEDRO wrot> But also as this DRM user (for Intel and AMD) I have experienced the related hiccups, problems, and problems solutions. It does not look like a FreeBSD way, but more like Linux way. I never noticed anything like this before. Sure, I can see this only as

Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life

2020-02-18 Thread Tomasz CEDRO
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ed Maste wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 05:37, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > > > Maybe its a time to give OpenBSD a try.. > > I really don't understand this comment, either. Certainly give OpenBSD > a try and if it fits your needs better that's great. > > As far as

Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life

2020-02-18 Thread Tomasz CEDRO
Hello Ed, thanks for your input :-) On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:46 PM Ed Maste wrote: > > 12.0 was a problematic release. 12.1 brings even more problems. > > The major issue with 12.1 is a problem with the Intel graphics kernel > module, and fixing that was held up by both 12.0 and 12.1 being >

Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life

2020-02-18 Thread Ed Maste
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 05:37, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > Maybe its a time to give OpenBSD a try.. I really don't understand this comment, either. Certainly give OpenBSD a try and if it fits your needs better that's great. As far as I'm aware OpenBSD issues a release every six months and supports

Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life

2020-02-18 Thread Ed Maste
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 22:24, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > Why so short End-Of-Life? Why so many fast and short releases? What for? > > Why pushing problems to production? What was wrong with having one > well tested stable system for a long time? I really don't understand this - FreeBSD 12 is

Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life

2020-02-18 Thread Tomasz CEDRO
wt., 18 lut 2020, 10:20 użytkownik Steve O'Hara-Smith napisał: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 04:23:35 +0100 > Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > > Why so short End-Of-Life? Why so many fast and short releases? What for? > > The new(ish) release and support policy has been announced and well > documented,