Re: ltmain.sh not found

2019-04-25 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
Hello,

it does have a good man page, as well as a chapter in the official
handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports-poudriere.html

I assume you build your ports because you have non-standard options,
otherwise I'd recommend going with the prebuilt packages, the handling of
prebuilt packages has become much more solid now.

Best regards
Andreas

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:14 PM Willem Offermans 
wrote:

> Dear FreeBSD friends,
>
> No, I have not yet considered using poudriere.
>
> I’m using portmaster for years now and I was too lazy to look for a
> better/another tool.
>
> When I have time, I will dig into poudriere. I assume there is
> documentation/tutorial around that will get me going.
> The man pages will also be helpful.
>
> Thank you for your suggestion.
>
>
>
> Wiel Offermans
> wil...@offermans.rompen.nl
>
>
>
>
> On 25 Apr 2019, at 14:58, Andreas Nilsson  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 2:28 AM Kevin Oberman  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:05 AM Christoph Moench-Tegeder <
>> c...@burggraben.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > ## Willem Offermans (wil...@offermans.rompen.nl):
>> >
>> > > Unfortunately it is probably not gawk in my case, which causes
>> trouble.
>> > > However, your response indicates that the problem will be solved
>> after I
>> > > have updated/reinstalled the guilty one.
>> >
>> > There's sysutils/bsdadminscripts, which provides pkg_libchk: that's a
>> > tool for checking if any port misses a shared library. It has been
>> > rather helpful back when I was using portupgrade...
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Christoph
>> >
>>
>> I believe bsdadminscripts has been withdrawn. You should use "pkg check
>> -B"
>> to check.
>> --
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>> E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com
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>>
>>
> Have you considered using poudriere to build your packages? It usually
> avoids these types of failures.
>
> Best regards
> Andreas
>
>
>
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Re: ltmain.sh not found

2019-04-25 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 2:28 AM Kevin Oberman  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:05 AM Christoph Moench-Tegeder <
> c...@burggraben.net>
> wrote:
>
> > ## Willem Offermans (wil...@offermans.rompen.nl):
> >
> > > Unfortunately it is probably not gawk in my case, which causes trouble.
> > > However, your response indicates that the problem will be solved after
> I
> > > have updated/reinstalled the guilty one.
> >
> > There's sysutils/bsdadminscripts, which provides pkg_libchk: that's a
> > tool for checking if any port misses a shared library. It has been
> > rather helpful back when I was using portupgrade...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Christoph
> >
>
> I believe bsdadminscripts has been withdrawn. You should use "pkg check -B"
> to check.
> --
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> E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com
> PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
>
>
Have you considered using poudriere to build your packages? It usually
avoids these types of failures.

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: Using drm-next in 11.2

2018-09-11 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 14:52 Pete French  wrote:

> So, I was trying to switch to using this, as I realise its where things
> are heading, and I rather like the look of it. But I cant get it to see my
> multiple monitors. I install the port, set 'kld_list="amdgpu"' and it boots
> up with the new modules, and appears to find all my displays in dmesg. But
> when I start X it only uses the single display port, mirroring it to DVI.
>
>
> When I start X what I am seeing in dmesg is this:
>
> module_register: cannot register drmn from drm2.ko; already loaded from
> drm.ko
> Module drmn failed to register: 17
> KLD radeonkms.ko: depends on drmn - not available or version mismatch
> linker_load_file: Unsupported file type
>
> Which make me think theres some clash with the old modules and thats why
> its not
> working properly. Also xrandr only lists a single screen, as default,
> unlike
> the list I get using the old drm, which lists all the outpus correctly.
>
> Anyone got any advice, or can point me to the coorrect place for this ?
>
> cheers,
>
> -pete.
>

I think you have to use kld_list="/boot/modules/amdgpu.ko" to get the new
one.

Best regards
Andreas

>
>
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Re: Boot partition size

2017-01-31 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
Well,  100mb might be relevant if you ever want to dual-boot. The relevant
efi file seems to be < 100k

It may go up in size, but I doubt we will see a 100x increase.

/A

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:03 PM, krad  wrote:

> Its worth noting you should also go for GPT layout and have a 100meg or so
> partition provisioned as well so you can do a uefi boot. Even if you arent
> going to use it right now.
>
>
> On 30 January 2017 at 03:41, Aristedes Maniatis  wrote:
>
> > On 30/1/17 2:20pm, Freddie Cash wrote:
> > > And, you may be able to do that on the existing disks, as ZFS now
> leaves
> > a MB or two of "slack space" at the end of the device used in the vdev.
> > This allows for using drives/partitions that are the same size in MB but
> > have different numbers of sectors. This was an issue on the early ZFS
> days.
> > >
> > > So, you may be able to resize the freebsd-zfs partition by a handful of
> > KB without actually changing the size of the vdev.
> >
> >
> > Brilliant, thank you. That worked a treat with a new boot size of 256k.
> >
> >
> > Note that this page: https://wiki.freebsd.org/
> RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror
> > needs to be adjusted. This line:
> >
> > gpart add -b 34 -s 128k -t freebsd-boot ad0
> >
> > needs to instead be
> >
> > gpart add -a 4k -s 512k -t freebsd-boot ad0
> >
> >
> > I don't have edit rights. Probably someone needs to clean up and merge
> > many of these pages: https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/
> >
> >
> > Ari
> >
> >
> >
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Re: suspend/resume on Skylake (Lenovo T460s) with FreeBSD11 stable

2016-12-19 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Christian Schwarz  wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 08:00:19AM +0100, Chris Ernst wrote:
> > it never worked.
> > I tried using the FreeBSD 11-STABLE (Revision 310008).
> > As i pointed out in my first post. Suspend is working but i am unable to
> > resume again.
>
> Same experience that I had ;)
>
> One idea that just came across my mind: maybe it's the graphics that
> don't resume.
>
> You could start some network service on the laptop, then suspend &
> resume, and check if the network service is reachable.
>
>
Hello,

my Lenovo X1 yoga exhibits the same traits, it does suspend, but graphics
are corrupted after resume. Machine usually is reachable over the network
though.

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: Routing stops working when we create a new vlan

2015-08-07 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Marcelo Gondim gon...@bsdinfo.com.br
wrote:

 On 07-08-2015 10:16, Andrey V. Elsukov wrote:

 On 07.08.2015 01:57, Marcelo Gondim wrote:

 For all work again I need to restart the router.
 I don't know if I could correctly explain the problem.

 Do you have gateway_enable=YES in your /etc/rc.conf?

 I have net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 but when I create a new vlan, the system
 is changing to: net.inet.ip.forwarding=0. Why?
 I try to go back to the value 1 and the system does not return to work.
 Only back to work if I restart the system.


 []'s
 Gondim

 The change to 0 is probably due to not having gateway_enable=YES in
rc.conf

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 30

2013-03-25 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kai Gallasch galla...@free.de wrote:

 Hi.

 On one of my fresh installed servers I am seeing the following output
 during boot:

 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 30
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 30
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31
 gptzfsboot: error 4 lba 31

 (Not shortened, exactly those lines)

 The server then manages to boot from a mirrored zpool.
 What is the cause of error 4 lba 30/31 ?

 - controller is a hp/compaq p400 (ciss)
 - da0 - da7 are raid0 volumes (controller not jbod capable)
 - freebsd 9.1 REL (same error message with 9-STABLE from 2013-03-24)
 - server is zfs-only


*snip*

Normally  one gets ( there were some mails about this just the other day )

 gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 32
 gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 1

on hp-machines with p410i disk controller. I think there is work ongoing to
fix it, and for at least the p410i adding a simple printf in the right
place in zfsboot.c allows it to boot.

--- sys/boot/i386/zfsboot/zfsboot.c (revision 245604)
+++ sys/boot/i386/zfsboot/zfsboot.c (working copy)
@@ -453,6 +453,7 @@
heap_end = (char *) PTOV(bios_basemem);
 }

+printf(\n);
 dsk = malloc(sizeof(struct dsk));
 dsk-drive = *(uint8_t *)PTOV(ARGS);
 dsk-type = dsk-drive  DRV_HARD ? TYPE_AD : TYPE_FD;

works fine on a dl360g7, as well as a dl360g5.

Best regards
Andreas Nilsson
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Re: What is the Right Way(™) to run X?

2013-03-17 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Daniel O'Connor dar...@dons.net.au wrote:

 Hi,
 I recently updated my 9.1-PRE system's ports and my previous X config now
 results in no mouse (but the keyboard does work).

 I found that I needed to add the following..
 Section ServerFlags
 Option  AllowEmptyInput False
 EndSection

 I am pretty sure this used to be necessary, then wasn't, but now seems
 required again.. From what I can see this means a 'startx' with no config
 is broken which is a bit of a step backwards.

 BTW I have dbus  hald running.

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On my intel-based systems there is no xorg.conf and on my nVidia-systems
there is one, but it contains only:
 Section Device
Identifier  nvidia
Driver  nvidia
Option  NoLogo true
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier default screen
Device nvidia
EndSection

so I think your setup is somehow broken. You didn't mention which version
of xorg you are using.

Does lshal show any inputdevices?

Have you tried to do the build from a clean environment?

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: What is the Right Way(™) to run X?

2013-03-17 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Daniel O'Connor dar...@dons.net.au wrote:


 On 17/03/2013, at 22:44, Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com wrote:
  so I think your setup is somehow broken. You didn't mention which
 version of xorg you are using.

 Very possibly :)
 I have xorg-server 1.7.7_6,1

  Does lshal show any inputdevices?

 I see the following..

 udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbdc_0'
   freebsd.driver = 'atkbdc'  (string)
   freebsd.unit = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer'  (string)
   info.product = 'Keyboard controller (i8042)'  (string)
   info.subsystem = 'platform'  (string)
   info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbdc_0'  (string)
   platform.id = 'atkbdc.0'  (string)
   pnp.description = 'IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)'
  (string)
   pnp.id = 'PNP0303'  (string)

 udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbd_0'
   freebsd.device_file = '/dev/atkbd0'  (string)
   freebsd.driver = 'atkbd'  (string)
   freebsd.unit = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   info.addons.singleton = {'hald-addon-input'} (string list)
   info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.keyboard', 'input.keys', 'button'}
 (string list)
   info.category = 'input'  (string)
   info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbdc_0'  (string)
   info.product = 'AT Keyboard'  (string)
   info.subsystem = 'platform'  (string)
   info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbd_0'  (string)
   input.device = ''  (string)
   input.x11_driver = 'kbd'  (string)
   platform.id = 'atkbd.0'  (string)


Looks promising. Just to make sure, have you verified that hald is still
running? Things can crash...



  Have you tried to do the build from a clean environment?

 Not really, I can't just nuke the existing packages and do an install (I
 suppose I could do it in a chroot).


That is a problem yes. Have you considered using poudriere to build
packages? It is rather nice, it can build old-school and new-school
packages, and is very configurable. It does require zfs though ;)



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 Best regards
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Re: What is the Right Way(™) to run X?

2013-03-17 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Daniel O'Connor dar...@dons.net.au wrote:


 On 17/03/2013, at 23:08, Matthew D. Fuller fulle...@over-yonder.net
 wrote:
  However, some time back, X _did_ start being all stupid about finding
  the mouse for me.  Un/re-plugging it (USB) after starting X made it
  show up working, but that's annoying and stupid (and not an option on
  other systems with e.g. PS/2 meece).  I wound up sticking the other
  half of that oft-cargo-culted incantation:
 
  Section ServerFlags
 Option AutoAddDevices off
  EndSection
 
  in my config, and it's worked OK since.  's probably worth a try...


 Yeah, that does work too. It's just annoying it's necessary :)


Sure is. One thing that also comes to mind is moused. Do you have it
running? I seem to remember having weird troubles when moused wasn't
running.

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: rc.d/sysctl fails to parse sysctl.conf

2013-02-28 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 08:45:11AM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
   On 27 February 2013 21:19, Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
   
I tried to get my sound working, and long story short: rc.d/sysctl
 parses
sysctl.conf wrongly if there are sysctls of the form
   
mib=val1=val2
   
which is what you need for sound. For reference I needed/wanted
   
dev.hdaa.4.nid25_config=as=1,seq=15
dev.hdaa.4.nid31_config=as=1
   
I believe the following patch would address the incorrect parsing:
   
--- /etc/rc.d/sysctl.old2013-02-27 22:00:00.0 +0100
+++ /etc/rc.d/sysctl2013-02-27 22:05:24.0 +0100
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
\#*|'')
;;
*)
-   mib=${var%=*}
+   mib=${var%%=*}
val=${var#*=}
   
if current_value=`${SYSCTL} -n ${mib}
2/dev/null`; then
  
   I think that this is the right thing to do here.
  
   Chris
 
  As a follow-up question: is sysctl.conf supposed to handle  all valid
 input
  one can give sysctl on the command line? Using the above example would
  normally be typed:
  sysctl dev.hdaa.4.nid25_config=as=1 seq=15
  which works, but fails to work from sysctl.conf

 This has to do with how your shell parses things (quotes, etc.) versus
 how shell scripts like /etc/rc.d/sysctl do.

 Assuming you read/speak sh: read /etc/rc.d/sysctl.  It's not very long,
 and fairly easy to follow, barring the %, %%, and # pattern modifier
 parts (read sh man page for how those work).  /etc/rc.d/sysctl is not a
 file parser -- instead it relies on sh to do the work.

 Once you read the script, you'll understand how/why apostrophes, double
 quotes, and spaces in /etc/sysctl.conf are a problem.  Solving this
 dilemma in sh is a pain in the ass and often involves utter nonsense
 like escaping (\) every character and making exceptions; folks who have
 written extensive shell scripts will know what I mean when I use the
 term quoting hell.

 That said, here's the general guideline: your /etc/sysctl.conf should
 not contain quotes or double-quotes or spaces after the assignment (=),
 generally speaking.  If there is a sysctl MIB that actually
 ***requires*** spaces in its value, then whoever coded their driver/bit
 that way should be taken out back and flogged.  Hard.  This is why you
 probably see Andreas using a comma-delimited model (and if that works,
 fantastic+great!).

 That said: you can get spaces to work in /etc/sysctl.conf by escaping
 them, i.e.:

 some.mib=foo\ bar

 You might be able to escape some types of quotes, but this gets into
 quoting hell like I said above.  Don't bother.  As I said, apostrophes
 (') and double-quotes () and spaces ( ), will cause problems, and if
 you read the script it'll become apparent why.

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Yes, the parsing hell is not a nice place to be in.

I found that easiest solution was to split the config into separate lines
like
dev.hdaa.4.nid25_config=as=1
dev.hdaa.4.nid25_config=seq=15
dev.hdaa.4.nid31_config=as=1

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rc.d/sysctl fails to parse sysctl.conf

2013-02-27 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
Hello,

I tried to get my sound working, and long story short: rc.d/sysctl parses
sysctl.conf wrongly if there are sysctls of the form

mib=val1=val2

which is what you need for sound. For reference I needed/wanted

dev.hdaa.4.nid25_config=as=1,seq=15
dev.hdaa.4.nid31_config=as=1

I believe the following patch would address the incorrect parsing:

--- /etc/rc.d/sysctl.old2013-02-27 22:00:00.0 +0100
+++ /etc/rc.d/sysctl2013-02-27 22:05:24.0 +0100
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
\#*|'')
;;
*)
-   mib=${var%=*}
+   mib=${var%%=*}
val=${var#*=}

if current_value=`${SYSCTL} -n ${mib}
2/dev/null`; then


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Andreas
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Re: rc.d/sysctl fails to parse sysctl.conf

2013-02-27 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On 27 February 2013 21:19, Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I tried to get my sound working, and long story short: rc.d/sysctl parses
  sysctl.conf wrongly if there are sysctls of the form
 
  mib=val1=val2
 
  which is what you need for sound. For reference I needed/wanted
 
  dev.hdaa.4.nid25_config=as=1,seq=15
  dev.hdaa.4.nid31_config=as=1
 
  I believe the following patch would address the incorrect parsing:
 
  --- /etc/rc.d/sysctl.old2013-02-27 22:00:00.0 +0100
  +++ /etc/rc.d/sysctl2013-02-27 22:05:24.0 +0100
  @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
  \#*|'')
  ;;
  *)
  -   mib=${var%=*}
  +   mib=${var%%=*}
  val=${var#*=}
 
  if current_value=`${SYSCTL} -n ${mib}
  2/dev/null`; then

 I think that this is the right thing to do here.

 Chris



As a follow-up question: is sysctl.conf supposed to handle  all valid input
one can give sysctl on the command line? Using the above example would
normally be typed:
sysctl dev.hdaa.4.nid25_config=as=1 seq=15
which works, but fails to work from sysctl.conf

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: Ports and WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS

2013-02-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.comwrote:

 03.02.2013 15:28, Dimitry Andric:

  Thanks for trying this out.  Is there also a list of ports that *do*
 compile (and hopefully run) successfully? :-)


 I already switched to libc++ on my unstable STABLE-9 machines. Currently
 I'm using this config:

 *: CXXFLAGS= -stdlib=libc++ -std=c++11 | LDFLAGS= -stdlib=libc++

 audio/flac databases/db5 devel/binutils devel/doxygen devel/qt4-designer
 devel/qt4-qt3support devel/qt4-script devel/yasm graphics/libopenraw
 graphics/tesseract lang/gcc multimedia/phonon-gstreamer
 net-p2p/transmission-cli net-p2p/transmission-daemon sysutils/smartmontools
 textproc/hunspell www/qt4-webkit x11/nvidia-driver x11/qt4-opengl:
 !CXXFLAGS | !LDFLAGS

 databases/mariadb-client emulators/pearpc www/libxul x11-toolkits/qt4-gui:
 USE_GCC=4.6+ | !CXXFLAGS | !LDFLAGS

 www/squid32: USE_GCC=any | !CXXFLAGS | !LDFLAGS

snip

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Could you clarify where you have these settings?

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Re: Ports and WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS

2013-02-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.comwrote:

 05.02.2013 13:59, Andreas Nilsson:


  Thanks for trying this out.  Is there also a list of ports that
 *do*
 compile (and hopefully run) successfully? :-)


 I already switched to libc++ on my unstable STABLE-9 machines.
 Currently I'm using this config:

 *: CXXFLAGS= -stdlib=libc++ -std=c++11 | LDFLAGS= -stdlib=libc++

 audio/flac databases/db5 devel/binutils devel/doxygen
 devel/qt4-designer devel/qt4-qt3support devel/qt4-script devel/yasm
 graphics/libopenraw graphics/tesseract lang/gcc
 multimedia/phonon-gstreamer net-p2p/transmission-cli
 net-p2p/transmission-daemon sysutils/smartmontools textproc/hunspell
 www/qt4-webkit x11/nvidia-driver x11/qt4-opengl: !CXXFLAGS | !LDFLAGS

 databases/mariadb-client emulators/pearpc www/libxul
 x11-toolkits/qt4-gui: USE_GCC=4.6+ | !CXXFLAGS | !LDFLAGS

 www/squid32: USE_GCC=any | !CXXFLAGS | !LDFLAGS

 snip


  Could you clarify where you have these settings?


 This is my desktops that I use @home and @work. I'm not going that
 experimental on any production machine.


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Ah, sorry for being unclear. I meant which config files :)

Best regards
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Re: Ports and WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS

2013-02-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.comwrote:

 05.02.2013 15:06, Andreas Nilsson:

  Ah, sorry for being unclear. I meant which config files :)


 I'm using ports-mgmt/portconf to keep track of all knobs.


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Thanks. I'll look into that, and how it will fit in with poudriere.

Regards
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Re: Ports and WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS

2013-02-03 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Dimitry Andric d...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On 2013-02-03 11:39, Andreas Nilsson wrote:

 I wanted to try the new c++ stuff, ie clang-3.2, libc++ and libcxxrt, so I
 used poudriere to build a jail setup for that ( WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS=yes in
 src.conf, CXXFLAGS+=-stdlib=libc++ and libsupc++.so.1  libcxxrt.so.1 in
 libmap.conf ), and started to build my normal set of packages ( see
 desktop.list ). Please note that I also have WITH_NEW_XORG=yes and
 WITH_KMS=yes, as well as using the devel xorg repo.

 First Great work for moving FreeBSD towards a more modern c++ world!

 Results:
 Some stuff works, some don't ;) Some may be due to clang and not just
 libc++. Here is a list of packages that fails:

 audio/libofa
 databases/akonadi
 devel/binutils
 devel/kBuild
 devel/libftdi
 devel/libplist
 devel/qca
 devel/qt4-qdbusviewer
 devel/qt4-script
 emulators/qemu-devel
 graphics/cairo
 graphics/graphite2
 graphics/libfpx
 graphics/opencv-core
 graphics/podofo
 graphics/vigra
 lang/sbcl
 math/cln
 net-im/libmsn
 net-p2p/libtorrent
 net/hupnp
 net/ns3
 net/xmlrpc-c-devel
 science/openbabel
 security/pinentry
 sysutils/fusefs-kmod
 sysutils/synergy
 textproc/clucene
 x11/nvidia-driver


 Thanks for trying this out.  Is there also a list of ports that *do*
 compile (and hopefully run) successfully? :-)

I didn't save the output for successful packages, but looking through just
the files gives libcpp.built at same URL.


 I expect there will be quite a few ports that are very difficult to get
 building and running properly with libc++.  Some programs rely on
 undocumented (or half-documented) libstdc++ internals, or on behaviour
 specific to libstdc++.

 Also, it would not suprise me if there are programs that even depend on
 a very specific version of libstdc++, and its accompanying version of
 gcc.

 In short, we need some sort of system to specify the general C++ library
 to use by default (e.g. in make.conf or ports.conf), and for ports that
 only work with a very specific version, a variable similar to USE_GCC,
 for example:

 USE_LIBSTDCXX=4.6+


Sounds good :) Perhaps something like
if (( CLANG_IS_CC || CC==clang )  WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS )
CXXFLAGS+=-stdlib=libc++
endif
could be added to correct mk-file




  where at least ns3 can be ignored ( I created that port myself ). I think
 nvidia-driver and fusefs-kmod now fails due to -stdlib=libc++ in LDFLAGS,
 normally fusefs-kmod just fails install-phase due to missing pkg-message
 file.

 I saved the workdirs for poudriere, and they are available at
 http://benriach.widell.net/~**andrnils/libc++/http://benriach.widell.net/~andrnils/libc++/,
  both as individual tarballs
 and one tarball that includes all the others. There is also the lists of
 packages I try to build, as well as the ones that fails.


 One general question: How am I supposed to include -stdlib=libc++ in
 LDFLAGS just for c++? Having -stdlib=libc++ in LDFLAGS causes c compiles
 to
 fail linking with ld: unrecognized option '-stdlib=libc++'


 This is as yet an unsolved problem, as LDFLAGS is the same for both C
 and C++ link jobs.  I think the easiest way would be to set your CXX
 variable to:

 CXX=cc -stdlib=libc++

Wouldn't CXX=CC -stdlib=libc++ be more appropriate, as cc is for c and CC
for c++, or have that convention gone away?



 The -std=c++11 flag should only have to be specified in CXXFLAGS.  I
 don't think it has any influence on linking.


My adding them to LDFLAGS comes from
https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewC++Stackwhere it says Add -stdlib=libc++
to your compile and link flags... It
actually made a bunch of the qt4- packages build, they wouldn't without it.

I guess a wiki page tracking the failing packages would be good, but I
couldn't get the hang of creating a page there :(

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Re: Ports and WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS

2013-02-03 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Dimitry Andric d...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On 2013-02-03 14:56, Andreas Nilsson wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Dimitry Andric d...@freebsd.org wrote:

 ...

  This is as yet an unsolved problem, as LDFLAGS is the same for both C
 and C++ link jobs.  I think the easiest way would be to set your CXX
 variable to:

 CXX=cc -stdlib=libc++

  Wouldn't CXX=CC -stdlib=libc++ be more appropriate, as cc is for c and
 CC
 for c++, or have that convention gone away?


 Sorry, I should have taken one more cup of coffee. :-)  'CC' is not
 really recommended anymore, just use:

 CXX=c++ -stdlib=libc++


Ah, yes. To little coffee here as well.



  My adding them to LDFLAGS comes from
 https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewC+**+Stackwherehttps://wiki.freebsd.org/NewC++Stackwhereit
  says Add -stdlib=libc++

 to your compile and link flags...


 Yes, that advice is just fine, but in some cases you cannot influence
 the link flags used only for C++ linking.  In those cases, you will have
 to trick the build system into doing so.

 In most cases (but probably not all), this can be done by adding the
 required flags to ${CXX}.


Good point.




  It
 actually made a bunch of the qt4- packages build, they wouldn't without
 it.

 I guess a wiki page tracking the failing packages would be good, but I
 couldn't get the hang of creating a page there :(


 This would better be done by a normal exp-run procedure, but those are
 offline for the time being.


On a side note: I forget the actual logs. They are now available as
logs.tgz at same base URL.

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: pkgng and updated packages

2013-01-28 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
I just wanted to add that when I today went about upgrading a computer I
had a very similar thing happen (with pkg-1.0.6 on 9.1-RELEASE): The new
version of the package reported conflicts with the old one.

Best regards
Andreas


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.dewrote:


 Am 28.01.2013 um 18:31 schrieb Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org:

  On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 06:28:02PM +0100, Rainer Duffner wrote:
  I go from PERL 5.10 to PERL 5.16, for example and it complains that
  perl5.16 conflicts with perl5.10...
 
  This I needed, too:
 
  pkg set -o long/perl5.10:lang/perl5.16
  pkg remove perl
  pkg set -o devel/pkg-config:devel/pkgconf
  pkg remove -f pkg-config
 
 
  Hmm, you should not have needed to remove perl or pkg-config.  They
  should have been upgraded as any other package.
 


 I tried it without and it said it conflicted. It wanted to install
 perl5.16, without doing anything to 5.10.
 Maybe it is because I already had PERL_VERSION=5.16.2 in /etc/make.conf?

 I still have a couple of those to upgrade.
 I can send pkg_info etc. and the commands I ran from the next server on
 Wednesday night.





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Re: How do I circumvent the use of clang during build?

2012-12-17 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
Wouldn't this be a case where man src.conf on his system actually wouldn't
tell the OP what he wanted, as clang was not available as option in 8? Of
course the online version of that man page from RELENG_9* would.

Best regards
Andreas


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Beeblebrox zap...@berentweb.com wrote:

 have a look at /etc/src.conf and
 $ man src.cof
 you can set many buildworld options there.



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Re: Where do I purchace an unlock code to build a custom kernel?

2012-11-24 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
I full-heartedly agree that include-statement is good, but still
$ wc -l /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/MINI
 174 /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/MINI

And this is just after removing network cards ( (usb)ethernet, (usb)wlan,
raid drivers and firewire) for my pretty standard lenovo t510. There is so
much in GENERIC today that seems to work just as well as modules. I guess
one thread on a mailing list this summer tried to achieve a more modular
config, which would make the include statement even more useful.

Best regards
Andreas


On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Chris H chris#@1command.com wrote:

  On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Chris H wrote:
 
  Hi Chris,
 
  Friday, November 23, 2012, 11:50:16 PM, you wrote:
 
  Thank you! Yes, I _did_ know k7 was actually i(x)86, but figured
 config(8)
  would throw me a bone if it were wrong.
 Greetings, and thank you for your reply.
  Anyway, I'll take your advice.
 
  There are some architecture specific settings there, so it is best to
  actually do this and fail it early (well if you would do buildkernel
  it would be earlier :) than getting some strange errors.
 
  If you were thinking to just copy it to i386 directory, to save you
  future issues, I would recommend you to redo the config based on
  GENERIC in i386 directory.
 
  Understood. That's what I did (i386/GENERIC -- CUSTOM).
  I _knew_ there would be issue(s) otherwise.
 
  Thank you again for the advice. Looks to be working as expected. :)
 
  Rather than copy and modify, a custom config can include the GENERIC
  config and override settings.  That generally makes the custom config
  file smaller and easier to maintain:
  http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/kernelconfig.html

 Excellent advice. In fact I now feel fairly embarrassed, as your
 suggestion seems so _obvious_. :P

 Thanks, that will _definitely_ be my course of action, going forward
 (as will cross-compiling on my 6 core AMD64 for this k7)  :)

 Best wishes.

 --Chris
 

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Re: natd in a jail

2012-11-23 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Morgan Reed morgan.s.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Morgan Reed morgan.s.r...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  So it turns out I'd not bought bpf into the jails, however even with
  that and raw_sockets enabled I'm still having no joy with natd.
 
  I've been looking at ipfw a bit today but I've run into an issue,
  loading ipfw_nat causes my kernel to instantly panic, I need to
  recompile with KDB and DDB turned on so I can actually catch the trace
  though... Might look at netgraph before going too far down that path.

 Scratch that, netgtaph isn't in the GENERIC kernel, so I'll have to
 rebuild anyway.

 Why not just load the module?

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Re: Hangs with nvidia-driver.

2012-11-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:03 AM, arrowdodger 6year...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've started experiencing hangs after 9.1-RC2 update. These hangs are
 caused by indefinitly looping somewhere inside nvidia_drv.so. As time
 passes, X server figures it out somehow and escapes from loop, but after
 short time everything hangs again.

 I've tried downgrading to RC1 and upgrading to RC3, downgrading NVIDIA
 driver to 295 and upgrading to the latest, downgrading Xorg and friends to
 1.7.7 and upgrading to the latest with WITHOUT_NOUVEAU set. Nothing helped.

 Interesting lines from dmesg:

 NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 8, Channel 
 NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 8, Channel 
 NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 8, Channel 
 NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 13,  e0014a00 004a 0100 
 0010
 NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 12, COCOD  e0013900 0039 0300
 0006

 Xorg.0.log:

 (WW) Nov 05 10:54:18 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (1, 6, 0x8000, 0xf7a0, 0xfb54)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:54:26 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 6, 0x8000, 0x06e8, 0x06e8)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:54:29 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0x06e8, 0x0814)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:54:37 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0xbc38, 0xc520)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:55:10 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 7, 0x8000, 0x5c30, 0x5c30)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:55:13 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 7, 0x8000, 0x5c54, 0x5c54)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:55:16 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 7, 0x8000, 0x5c78, 0x5c78)
 [mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
 (WW) Nov 05 10:55:41 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0xd100, 0xe444)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:55:48 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (1, 6, 0x8000, 0xd100, 0xe444)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:55:51 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0xd100, 0xf8c0)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:56:04 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0xc340, 0xd534)
 (WW) Nov 05 10:56:18 NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0xeb10, 0xeee4)
 [mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.

 uname -a:

 FreeBSD alore 9.1-RC1 FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 #0: Tue Aug 14 03:56:40 UTC 2012
 r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386

 My video card is GeForce 6600.
 Please CC me, since i'm not subscribed to the list.


I have similar experience, but for me it only happens after a
suspend-to-ram cycle, and more often then with external screen connected.

I use WITH_NEW_XORG and the xorg-dev repo.

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Re: buildworld fails on recent stable

2012-11-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all.

 When CLANG_IS_CC build fails at sys/boot/i386/boot2:

 ld -static -N --gc-sections -nostdlib -m elf_i386_fbsd -Ttext 0x2000 -o
 boot2.out /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/**i386/boot2/../btx/lib/crt0.o
 boot2.o sio.o
 objcopy -S -O binary boot2.out boot2.bin
 btxld -v -E 0x2000 -f bin -b 
 /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/**i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx
 -l boot2.ldr  -o boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin
 kernel: ver=1.02 size=690 load=9000 entry=9010 map=16M pgctl=1:1
 client: fmt=bin size=1575 text=0 data=0 bss=0 entry=0
 output: fmt=bin size=1e05 text=200 data=1c05 org=0 entry=0
 -5 bytes available
 *** [boot2] Error code 1

 The relevant output before r242562 looked like:

 ld -static -N --gc-sections -nostdlib -m elf_i386_fbsd -Ttext 0x2000 -o
 boot2.out /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/**i386/boot2/../btx/lib/crt0.o
 boot2.o sio.o
 objcopy -S -O binary boot2.out boot2.bin
 btxld -v -E 0x2000 -f bin -b 
 /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/**i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx
 -l boot2.ldr  -o boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin
 kernel: ver=1.02 size=690 load=9000 entry=9010 map=16M pgctl=1:1
 client: fmt=bin size=1569 text=0 data=0 bss=0 entry=0
 output: fmt=bin size=1df9 text=200 data=1bf9 org=0 entry=0
 7 bytes available
 dd if=boot2.ld of=boot2 obs=7680 conv=osync

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I can confirm, for at least revisions  242602 and 242605.

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Re: make release fails on find

2012-11-01 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 08:30:29AM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
  On a more whislist topic: I'd really appreciate if  .zfs dirs would be
  excluded from  the tarballs.
 

 Hmm, I didn't realize this was happening.

 So I can verify my change works for all environments, are you using any
 local zfs dataset properties, specifically unhiding the snapshot
 directory?

 Glen

 Yes, I have the following:
 tank/cvs/9.1/src  snapdir   visibleinherited
from tank/cvs

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Re: make release fails on find

2012-10-31 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 08:11:15PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:
   Oops, my bad. Yes exact same behavior;  make -C release cdrom fails
 with
   ...
   find //tank/cvs/9.1/src/release/dist/doc -empty -delete
   find //tank/cvs/9.1/src/release/dist/games -empty -delete
   find: -delete: //tank/cvs/9.1/src/release/dist/games: relative path
   potentially not safe
   *** [distributeworld] Error code 1
   on 9.1-RC3. I can try with 9-stable as well (tomorrow).
  
 
  Ok, thanks.  I do not want to assume anything more at this point.
 
  I am still waiting for my build machine to finish a few queued things.
  Once it frees up, I will roll a release using sudo (just for my own
  sanity), and without sudo, with your src.conf and make.conf.
 
  Anyway, thanks for all of the details you have provided.  It is all
  helpful, and hopefully this will finally be tracked down.
 

 Ugh...  Ok, so this is my fault.

 I do not remember why, specifically, but the change in question was not
 merged to the releng/9.1 branch.

 Please try the following, in the top-level directory of your releng/9.1
 source checkout:

 svn merge -c240077 ^/head/Makefile.inc1 Makefile.inc1

 It worked for me fine.  Unfortunately, it is far too late in the release
 cycle for that change to make it into 9.1-RELEASE.

Great that you found the bug!


 Unfortunately, this does not have anything to do with the recursing in
 the usr/src tarball.  Please let me know if you continue to see that
 happen, as this is the _single_ most reported issue that I have had zero
 luck reproducing...

 With just the merge above now 9.1-RC3 ends up recursing. (  Just tried
them one at a time ).

 Thanks.

 Glen

 PS:  Sorry about being the cause of your release build failure...

 No problem really :)  Thanks for hunting this down now.

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Re: make release fails on find

2012-10-31 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:19:12PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:
  So, please also do:
 
  svn merge -c241451 ^/head/release release
 

 You'll want to merge one more revision:

 svn merge -c241596 ^/head/release release

 Same as before - I _think_ this should work. :-)

 Glen



Excelent :) That did the trick, ie no recursion :) Thank you very much for
finding the bugs.

Will this be merge to 9-stable?

On a more whislist topic: I'd really appreciate if  .zfs dirs would be
excluded from  the tarballs.


Best regards
Andreas
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Re: make release fails on find

2012-10-31 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
First, late me state status more clearly: solved :) Big thanks for fixing
it.

On a side note, how has re-team not run into this?

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make release fails on find

2012-10-30 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
I'm trying to build some images for 9-stable ( r242349 ) and 9.1-RC3, but
using the release tools doesn't really work.

9.1-RC3 fails with:
...
cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src/libexec/rtld-elf;  make install -DNO_SUBDIR
DESTDIR=/tmp/newdist/lib32 SHARED=copies
install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555  -C -b -fschg -S ld-elf32.so.1
/tmp/newdist/lib32/libexec
/tmp/newdist/lib32/usr/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 - /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1
cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src/usr.bin/ldd; PROG=ldd32 MACHINE=i386 MACHINE_ARCH=i386
MACHINE_CPU=i686 mmx sse sse2 LD=ld -m elf_i386_fbsd -Y
P,/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32 AS=as --32
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/lib32
_SHLIBDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32 VERSION=FreeBSD
9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 901501
PATH=/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/games:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/games:/tmp/install.SgiYOaRS
CC=cc -m32 -march=core2 -DCOMPAT_32BIT  -isystem
/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/include/
 -L/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32
 -B/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32 CXX=c++ -m32 -march=core2
-DCOMPAT_32BIT  -isystem /usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/include/
 -L/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32
 -B/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32 LIBDIR=/usr/lib32
SHLIBDIR=/usr/lib32 make -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DCOMPAT_32BIT -DWITHOUT_BIND
-DWITHOUT_MAN -DWITHOUT_INFO -DWITHOUT_HTML -DNO_CTF -DNO_LINT -ECC -ECXX
-EAS -ELD -DNO_INCS distribute
cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src/usr.bin/ldd;  make install -DNO_SUBDIR
DESTDIR=/tmp/newdist/lib32 SHARED=copies
install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555   ldd32 /tmp/newdist/lib32/usr/bin
find //tmp/newdist/doc -empty -delete
find //tmp/newdist/games -empty -delete
find: -delete: //tmp/newdist/games: relative path potentially not safe
*** [distributeworld] Error code 1

Stop in /tank/cvs/9.1/src.
*** [distributeworld] Error code 1

And 9-stable ends up recursing when generating tarballs. The sources have
already been added to a tarball. The tarballs themselfs are also included.

Is anyone having the same problems?

Build machine is amd64 9.1-PRERELASE. Source trees are in separate zfs
datasets (tank/cvs/9/src and tank/cvs/9.1/src).

Regards
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Re: make release fails on find

2012-10-30 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 04:58:52PM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
  I'm trying to build some images for 9-stable ( r242349 ) and 9.1-RC3, but
  using the release tools doesn't really work.
 
  9.1-RC3 fails with:
  ...
  cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src/libexec/rtld-elf;  make install -DNO_SUBDIR
  DESTDIR=/tmp/newdist/lib32 SHARED=copies
  install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555  -C -b -fschg -S ld-elf32.so.1
  /tmp/newdist/lib32/libexec
  /tmp/newdist/lib32/usr/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 - /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1
  cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src/usr.bin/ldd; PROG=ldd32 MACHINE=i386
 MACHINE_ARCH=i386
  MACHINE_CPU=i686 mmx sse sse2 LD=ld -m elf_i386_fbsd -Y
  P,/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32 AS=as --32
  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/lib32
  _SHLIBDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32 VERSION=FreeBSD
  9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 901501
 
 PATH=/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/games:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/tmp/usr/games:/tmp/install.SgiYOaRS
  CC=cc -m32 -march=core2 -DCOMPAT_32BIT  -isystem
  /usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/include/
   -L/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32
   -B/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32 CXX=c++ -m32 -march=core2
  -DCOMPAT_32BIT  -isystem /usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/include/
   -L/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32
   -B/usr/obj/tank/cvs/9.1/src/lib32/usr/lib32 LIBDIR=/usr/lib32
  SHLIBDIR=/usr/lib32 make -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DCOMPAT_32BIT -DWITHOUT_BIND
  -DWITHOUT_MAN -DWITHOUT_INFO -DWITHOUT_HTML -DNO_CTF -DNO_LINT -ECC -ECXX
  -EAS -ELD -DNO_INCS distribute
  cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src/usr.bin/ldd;  make install -DNO_SUBDIR
  DESTDIR=/tmp/newdist/lib32 SHARED=copies
  install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555   ldd32 /tmp/newdist/lib32/usr/bin
  find //tmp/newdist/doc -empty -delete
  find //tmp/newdist/games -empty -delete
  find: -delete: //tmp/newdist/games: relative path potentially not safe
  *** [distributeworld] Error code 1
 
  Stop in /tank/cvs/9.1/src.
  *** [distributeworld] Error code 1
 

 Are you defining WITH*_GAMES in src.conf or make.conf?  If this looks
 like what I think it looks like, I fixed this a few months ago.


Used same command for building both, see below. And yes, WITHOUT_GAMES is
set in src.conf


  And 9-stable ends up recursing when generating tarballs. The sources have
  already been added to a tarball. The tarballs themselfs are also
 included.
 

 I have seen many reports on this, and cannot reproduce it.  How exactly
 are you running the release build?  What specific make(1) targets are
 you using, and what is your make.conf/src.conf contents?

 Glen


I did the following steps:
zfs create tank/cvs/9
zfs create tank/cvs/9/src
zfs create tank/cvs/9.1
zfs create tank/cvs/9.1/src
cd /tank/cvs/9/src ; sudo svn co
http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/base/releng/9 .
cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src ; sudo svn co
http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/base/releng/9.1 .
cd /tank/cvs/9/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf buildworld
buildkernel -sj16
cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf buildworld
buildkernel -sj16
cd /tank/cvs/9/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf -C release
cdrom
cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf -C release
cdrom

/relng/files/src.conf contains:
$ cat /relng/files/src.conf
WITHOUT_X11=true
WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=true
WITHOUT_CLANG=true
WITHOUT_ATM=true
WITHOUT_CTM=true
WITHOUT_CDDL=true
WITHOUT_DICT=true
WITHOUT_HTML=true
WITHOUT_IPFILTER=true
WITHOUT_IPX=true
WITHOUT_IPX_SUPPORT=true
WITHOUT_LOCALES=true
WITHOUT_LPR=true
WITHOUT_NCP=true
WITHOUT_NIS=true
WITHOUT_OBJC=true
WITHOUT_RCMDS=true
WITHOUT_RCS=true
WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true
WITHOUT_SSP=true
WITHOUT_ZFS=true
WITHOUT_BIND_DNSSEC=true
WITHOUT_GAMES=true
WITHOUT_IPX=true
WITHOUT_NIS=true
WITHOUT_PF=true
WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true
WITHOUT_WIRELESS=true

make.conf contains:
$ cat /etc/make.conf
CPUTYPE?=core2
CFLAGS=-pipe -O2
BUILD_JOBS=8
WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true
WITHOUT_X11=true
DISTDIR=/tank/distfiles
WRKDIRPREFIX?=/tmp/ports
PACKAGES?=/tmp/ports/packages
#
WITH_KMS=yes
WITH_NEW_XORG=yes
# added by use.perl 2012-10-15 17:24:41
PERL_VERSION=5.14.2

Some of the stuff there could be removed I guess...


Best regards
Andreas
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Re: make release fails on find

2012-10-30 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
   Are you defining WITH*_GAMES in src.conf or make.conf?  If this looks
   like what I think it looks like, I fixed this a few months ago.
  
 
  Used same command for building both, see below. And yes, WITHOUT_GAMES is
  set in src.conf
 
 
And 9-stable ends up recursing when generating tarballs. The sources
 have
already been added to a tarball. The tarballs themselfs are also
   included.
   
  
   I have seen many reports on this, and cannot reproduce it.  How exactly
   are you running the release build?  What specific make(1) targets are
   you using, and what is your make.conf/src.conf contents?
  
   Glen
  
  
  I did the following steps:
  zfs create tank/cvs/9
  zfs create tank/cvs/9/src
  zfs create tank/cvs/9.1
  zfs create tank/cvs/9.1/src
  cd /tank/cvs/9/src ; sudo svn co
  http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/base/releng/9 .
  cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src ; sudo svn co
  http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/base/releng/9.1 .
  cd /tank/cvs/9/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf buildworld
  buildkernel -sj16
  cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf buildworld
  buildkernel -sj16
  cd /tank/cvs/9/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf -C release
  cdrom
  cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf -C release
  cdrom
 
  /relng/files/src.conf contains:
  $ cat /relng/files/src.conf
  WITHOUT_X11=true
  WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=true
  WITHOUT_CLANG=true
  WITHOUT_ATM=true
  WITHOUT_CTM=true
  WITHOUT_CDDL=true
  WITHOUT_DICT=true
  WITHOUT_HTML=true
  WITHOUT_IPFILTER=true
  WITHOUT_IPX=true
  WITHOUT_IPX_SUPPORT=true
  WITHOUT_LOCALES=true
  WITHOUT_LPR=true
  WITHOUT_NCP=true
  WITHOUT_NIS=true
  WITHOUT_OBJC=true
  WITHOUT_RCMDS=true
  WITHOUT_RCS=true
  WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true
  WITHOUT_SSP=true
  WITHOUT_ZFS=true
  WITHOUT_BIND_DNSSEC=true
  WITHOUT_GAMES=true
  WITHOUT_IPX=true
  WITHOUT_NIS=true
  WITHOUT_PF=true
  WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true
  WITHOUT_WIRELESS=true
 
  make.conf contains:
  $ cat /etc/make.conf
  CPUTYPE?=core2
  CFLAGS=-pipe -O2
  BUILD_JOBS=8
  WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true
  WITHOUT_X11=true
  DISTDIR=/tank/distfiles
  WRKDIRPREFIX?=/tmp/ports
  PACKAGES?=/tmp/ports/packages
  #
  WITH_KMS=yes
  WITH_NEW_XORG=yes
  # added by use.perl 2012-10-15 17:24:41
  PERL_VERSION=5.14.2
 

 I don't really see any reason this should not work.  However, I have not
 tested with sudo.  Maybe that is the piece of the puzzle I am missing...

 Glen


Hmm,

interesting idea, would be pretty bad if sudo caused that.

I gave it run without direct sudo call ( ie sudo bash, then make ... ) and
no go.

Doing just su - and cd'ing to proper dir and the make ... is still not
working.

Overnight I'll try to build world and kernel without src.conf ( ie
SRCCONF=/dev/null ) and same for make release. I'll posts results in the
morning.

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: make release fails on find

2012-10-30 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
   Are you defining WITH*_GAMES in src.conf or make.conf?  If this looks
   like what I think it looks like, I fixed this a few months ago.
  
 
  Used same command for building both, see below. And yes, WITHOUT_GAMES
 is
  set in src.conf
 
 
And 9-stable ends up recursing when generating tarballs. The
 sources have
already been added to a tarball. The tarballs themselfs are also
   included.
   
  
   I have seen many reports on this, and cannot reproduce it.  How
 exactly
   are you running the release build?  What specific make(1) targets are
   you using, and what is your make.conf/src.conf contents?
  
   Glen
  
  
  I did the following steps:
  zfs create tank/cvs/9
  zfs create tank/cvs/9/src
  zfs create tank/cvs/9.1
  zfs create tank/cvs/9.1/src
  cd /tank/cvs/9/src ; sudo svn co
  http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/base/releng/9 .
  cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src ; sudo svn co
  http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/base/releng/9.1 .
  cd /tank/cvs/9/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf buildworld
  buildkernel -sj16
  cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf
 buildworld
  buildkernel -sj16
  cd /tank/cvs/9/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf -C release
  cdrom
  cd /tank/cvs/9.1/src ; sudo make SRCCONF=/relng/files/src.conf -C
 release
  cdrom
 
  /relng/files/src.conf contains:
  $ cat /relng/files/src.conf
  WITHOUT_X11=true
  WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=true
  WITHOUT_CLANG=true
  WITHOUT_ATM=true
  WITHOUT_CTM=true
  WITHOUT_CDDL=true
  WITHOUT_DICT=true
  WITHOUT_HTML=true
  WITHOUT_IPFILTER=true
  WITHOUT_IPX=true
  WITHOUT_IPX_SUPPORT=true
  WITHOUT_LOCALES=true
  WITHOUT_LPR=true
  WITHOUT_NCP=true
  WITHOUT_NIS=true
  WITHOUT_OBJC=true
  WITHOUT_RCMDS=true
  WITHOUT_RCS=true
  WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true
  WITHOUT_SSP=true
  WITHOUT_ZFS=true
  WITHOUT_BIND_DNSSEC=true
  WITHOUT_GAMES=true
  WITHOUT_IPX=true
  WITHOUT_NIS=true
  WITHOUT_PF=true
  WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true
  WITHOUT_WIRELESS=true
 
  make.conf contains:
  $ cat /etc/make.conf
  CPUTYPE?=core2
  CFLAGS=-pipe -O2
  BUILD_JOBS=8
  WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true
  WITHOUT_X11=true
  DISTDIR=/tank/distfiles
  WRKDIRPREFIX?=/tmp/ports
  PACKAGES?=/tmp/ports/packages
  #
  WITH_KMS=yes
  WITH_NEW_XORG=yes
  # added by use.perl 2012-10-15 17:24:41
  PERL_VERSION=5.14.2
 

 I don't really see any reason this should not work.  However, I have not
 tested with sudo.  Maybe that is the piece of the puzzle I am missing...

 Glen


 Hmm,

 interesting idea, would be pretty bad if sudo caused that.

 I gave it run without direct sudo call ( ie sudo bash, then make ... ) and
 no go.

 Doing just su - and cd'ing to proper dir and the make ... is still not
 working.

 Overnight I'll try to build world and kernel without src.conf ( ie
 SRCCONF=/dev/null ) and same for make release. I'll posts results in the
 morning.

 Best regards
 Andreas


Just a quick update; running a new buildworld+buildkernel and then make
release from su - does not work :(

Regards
Andreas
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Re: make release fails on find

2012-10-30 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:11:22AM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
   interesting idea, would be pretty bad if sudo caused that.
  

 Indeed, but sudo only keeps certain environment variables, so it's not
 entirely unexpected if this is the case.

   I gave it run without direct sudo call ( ie sudo bash, then make ... )
 and
   no go.
  
   Doing just su - and cd'ing to proper dir and the make ... is still not
   working.
  
   Overnight I'll try to build world and kernel without src.conf ( ie
   SRCCONF=/dev/null ) and same for make release. I'll posts results in
 the
   morning.
  
   Best regards
   Andreas
  
 
  Just a quick update; running a new buildworld+buildkernel and then make
  release from su - does not work :(
 

 You've said 'does not work' twice.  Can you elaborate more?  What
 specifically isn't working?  Same behavior as before, or...?

 Glen

 Oops, my bad. Yes exact same behavior;  make -C release cdrom fails with
...
find //tank/cvs/9.1/src/release/dist/doc -empty -delete
find //tank/cvs/9.1/src/release/dist/games -empty -delete
find: -delete: //tank/cvs/9.1/src/release/dist/games: relative path
potentially not safe
*** [distributeworld] Error code 1
on 9.1-RC3. I can try with 9-stable as well (tomorrow).

Regards
Andreas
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Re: kern.maxswzone is gone... what next?

2012-10-11 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.comwrote:

 11.10.2012 18:37, Sergey Kandaurov wrote:

 On 11 October 2012 19:32, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.

 I prefer to build all ports in /tmp, which is actually a tmpfs
 filesystem. I
 have 8G partition. But when I tried to compile Apache OpenOffice system
 starts shooting processes when I was near 6G of swap.

 Oct 11 18:12:32 ar1l0u kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase
 kern.maxswzone
 Oct 11 18:12:32 ar1l0u kernel: pid 1334 (java), uid 818, was killed: out
 of
 swap space
 Oct 11 18:12:32 ar1l0u kernel: pid 74518 (thunderbird), uid 1001, was
 killed: out of swap space
 Oct 11 18:12:32 ar1l0u kernel: swap zone ok


 How much RAM (avail memory) do you have?


 2G


I can chime in with the exact same error. I was using poudriere to build
some ports, and on apache-oo the machine actually had a kernel panic.
Machine has 16gb of ram and 16gb swap.

I had top running (update every 1 sec) and there was 10gb of swap free
when panic happened.

The OS is fbsd 9.1-PRERELEASE, from before problematic changes with
nullfs/zfs interaction.

Best regards
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Re: how to update ports while using pkgng?

2012-09-16 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Mike Manilone crtm...@gmx.us wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm using ports with pkgng enabled. But I found that portmaster won't
 work. Is there any way to update ports? Thanks!


Since no one asked: Why would you want to do it this way? If you are using
pkgng updating is as easy as: pkg upgrade.

If you have some programs installed not available from official pkgng
repositories you are on thin ice and should consider using something like
ports-mgmt/poudriere to build pkgng packages of those ports and host your
own repo from which you can then install them.

As others already said: pkgng is drastically different from previous
package management, so they do should not be used in parallel.

Best regards
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Re: Clang as default compiler

2012-09-12 Thread Andreas Nilsson 


  in src.conf. No problem so far. However I wanted to avoid building base
 gcc
  ( the whole collection ). Is  WITHOUT_GCC what I'm looking for?
 

 It probably is. However, WITHOUT_GCC is not supported yet.

  On another clang note: Is there a page specifying valid settings for
  -march, my google-foo is failing me. Ie, I'm looking for the equivalent
 of
 
 http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.7.1/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.htm
  l#i386-and-x86_002d64-Options
 

 Take a look at lines 120 and below of contrib/llvm/lib/Target/X86/X86.td in
 the FreeBSD source directory for supported march switches.


 There is no specific PR.  We have not yet placed the requirement on our
 ports maintainers to deal with clang.

Is there a time frame for this requirement?

And for the know broken ports, how are the users supposed to deal with them
until the ports is fixed? Modifying the port by hand in the local ports
tree?

Best regards
Andreas
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Clang as default compiler

2012-09-11 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
Today I decided to take the plunge and make clang the default compiler, ie
I set

WITH_CLANG=yes
WITH_CLANG_IS_CC=yes
WITH_CLANG_EXTRAS=yes

in src.conf. No problem so far. However I wanted to avoid building base gcc
( the whole collection ). Is  WITHOUT_GCC what I'm looking for?

On another clang note: Is there a page specifying valid settings for
-march, my google-foo is failing me. Ie, I'm looking for the equivalent of
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.7.1/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html#i386-and-x86_002d64-Options

After successful install I went on to upgrade some ports. Is there a specif
PR to use for ports that fails with clang and does not specify to use gcc (
devel/cdecl and deskutils/calibre so were the culprits so far)

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available...

2012-08-28 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Ken Smith kensm...@buffalo.edu wrote:

 

The freebsd-update(8) utility supports binary upgrades of i386 and amd64
 systems running earlier FreeBSD releases.  Systems running 9.0-RELEASE
 can upgrade as follows:

 # freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC1

 This has not been working for me on i386 for the last few days. It fails
with:

[root@mist /usr/home/andrnils]# freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC1
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found.
Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.

Best regards
Andreas

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Re: battery state

2012-08-15 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Dominic Fandrey kamik...@bsdforen.dewrote:

 For a while now acpiconf -i0 always shows the battery state that
 was correct when booting the system. It's never updated.

 snip

It wont solve the problem, but does the sysctl hw.acpi.battery.time update
correctly?

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: battery state

2012-08-15 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Dominic Fandrey kamik...@bsdforen.dewrote:

 On 15/08/2012 10:40, Andreas Nilsson wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Dominic Fandrey kamik...@bsdforen.de
 wrote:

 For a while now acpiconf -i0 always shows the battery state that
 was correct when booting the system. It's never updated.

 snip


 It wont solve the problem, but does the sysctl hw.acpi.battery.time update
 correctly?


 Thanks for the fast reply, right now it shows -1 (the system was plugged
 in during boot).

 I just unplugged it and it still shows -1:

 sysctl hw.acpi.battery

 hw.acpi.battery.life: 99
 hw.acpi.battery.time: -1
 hw.acpi.battery.state: 0
 hw.acpi.battery.units: 2
 hw.acpi.battery.info_expire: 5


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Sounds like there is some acpi-problem then. On my thinkpad it takes maybe
five seconds for it to go from -1 to an estimate. Also
hw.acpi.battery.state=0 for me equals AC plugged in and battery full. I
have this in my .xinitrc to monitor my battery ( in a loop which then uses
xsetroot to show the info ):
case `sysctl -n hw.acpi.battery.state` in
0) batstate=AC full ;;
1) batstate=`sysctl -n hw.acpi.battery.time` m ;;
2) batstate=AC charing ;;

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Re: new desktop box

2012-06-27 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs wrote:

 Dear list!
 This evening my 7 years old node powers down for it's own sake.
 After a bit of panic, I made a decision to get new box.
 Regarding fast development of hardware, I cannot choose what is
 the correct way to go. For long time I use AMD and would like to
 have another one, but would listen to advice, if proves better
 to have intel. What are features I'd like:
 - to be silent and cold
 - to stay on not-expensive side
 Finally, questions.
 Phenom II 1100 or something else?
 Mobo for said cpu with eth, well working with freebsd?
 Graphical card, silent, that would work with amd64, branch 9?
 No games, nothing fancy. To last next few years. I plan to com-
 pile kernel or two. Half of usage is in console, startx then.
 I will give additional information for my taste, if needed.
 Best regards

   Zoran

 You did not specify what expensive is to you, nor if you want prebuilt or
if you want to assemble it yourself.

I'd go with Intel today. We just got Dell Vostro 460 desktops, with Intel
core i5-2400 cpu with integrated graphics. Works really good, almost quiet.

You would need to go with 9-stable and use new xorg though, so once X is
started, you would lose console.

The only bad thing is perhaps the ethernet, it's some lousy
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller

If you want a few hdds the chassi is not that good.

Regards
Andreas
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Re: ULE Scheduler

2012-06-08 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Momchil Ivanov momc...@xaxo.eu wrote:

 At Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:54:15 +0200,
 Martin Sugioarto wrote:
 
  [1  text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)]
  Am Thu, 07 Jun 2012 03:01:07 +0200
  schrieb Момчил Иванов momc...@xaxo.eu:
 
   Is there some remedy?
 
  Hi,
 
  I remember this series, I've had a T60p and when I compiled world, I
  placed a fan in front of it to cool it down from 100°C. The difference
  with T60p was that it simply shut off reaching 101°C.
 
  The problem is the hardware, not FreeBSD. T60p and obviously T60, too,
  was made by some crazy people who had the idea to cool the CPU und the
  GPU under the same heat sink. The funny thing is that the GPU is
  running at 70°C all the time, because FreeBSD does not implement
  voltage regulation for the VGA chipset. The result is that the GPU
  warms up the CPU to at least 55°C while idle.
 
  If you want to have a cooler CPU implement power saving for the Radeon
  chipset there.
 
  Martin
  [2 signature.asc application/pgp-signature (7bit)]
 
 Hi,

 well, that is not true, I have been using the laptop since more than 4
 years without any problems. The thing is that yesterday I had it
 docked and that seems to raise the idle temperature by about 10°C, so
 I get docked somewhere about 42°C when doing nothing computationally
 intensive:

 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 50.0C
 hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature: 42.0C
 dev.cpu.0.temperature: 42.0C
 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 42.0C

 So I probably have to shift things around to give the dock a bit more
 room. However, the dust, the thermal liquid and the screws seem to
 have contributed to the temperature increase too. The GPU (Nvidia
 Quadro NVS 140M) might be an issue, nvidia-settings says 58°C (I am
 not running any fancy graphics) and I've seen it getting over
 100-120°C before, when I am doing some opengl stuff. With the latter I
 mean, that I know how to intentionally kill it.

 Anyway, I have solved my problem and that seems to not be related to
 ULE at all. However, it was still surprising for me to find out how
 ULE schedules computationally intensive tasks.

 Regards,
 Momchil


My t61p also had overheating problems with fbsd, but never in linux. For me
the fan control was somewhat broken: I had to turn off auto-mode and set
max myself to get any heavy usage out of it.

You might want to check that as well.

Regards
Andreas
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Re: FreeBSD9 and the sheer number of problem reports

2012-02-24 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Erich Dollansky 
erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:

 Hi,

 On Friday 24 February 2012 04:21:12 Peter Maloney wrote:
  Am 23.02.2012 21:15, schrieb Mark Felder:
   On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:25:01 -0600, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote:
  
  
   Now, I find the number of problem reports regarding 9.0-RELEASE
 alarming
   and I'm growing more and more fearful towards it.
  
  I suggest these concepts should be tested:
 
 I can tell you what in practical terms stops me from testing very often.
 The switch back to the running version.

 Let me suggest this.

 Currently, we have on the disk normally two kernels. The current one and
 the last one. Why not add a third one called testing?

 Add then an entry into the boot menu that users can switch between the
 current kernel and a kernel they just installed for testing.


Well, as you would want to test both kernel + userland its get a bit tricky
on ufs based system, as you have to setup several slices/partitions. For
ZFS its easier, as the only thing required would be a snapshot of clean
install, which the user then can just zfs recv, modify vfs.root.mountfrom
and so on.

Just my thoughts.

Andreas


 I know that I can do this manually. But this is the point where it becomes
 difficult for the majority of people.

 As FreeBSD needs a large amount of testing on unknown hardware, this could
 increase the number of actual testers without much effort.

 Ok, the developers must then be ready to deal with reports which miss many
 things.

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Re: nmbclusters: how do we want to fix this for 8.3 ?

2012-02-23 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Fabien Thomas fabien.tho...@netasq.comwrote:


 Le 22 févr. 2012 à 22:51, Jack Vogel a écrit :

  On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Luigi Rizzo ri...@iet.unipi.it wrote:
 
  On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 09:09:46PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
  On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 21:52 +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
  ...
  I have hit this problem recently, too.
  Maybe the issue mostly/only exists on 32-bit systems.
 
  No, we kept hitting mbuf pool limits on 64-bit systems when we started
  working on FreeBSD support.
 
  ok never mind then, the mechanism would be the same, though
  the limits (especially VM_LIMIT) would be different.
 
  Here is a possible approach:
 
  1. nmbclusters consume the kernel virtual address space so there
must be some upper limit, say
 
 VM_LIMIT = 256000 (translates to 512MB of address space)
 
  2. also you don't want the clusters to take up too much of the
  available
memory. This one would only trigger for minimal-memory systems,
or virtual machines, but still...
 
 MEM_LIMIT = (physical_ram / 2) / 2048
 
  3. one may try to set a suitably large, desirable number of buffers
 
 TARGET_CLUSTERS = 128000
 
  4. and finally we could use the current default as the absolute
 minimum
 
 MIN_CLUSTERS = 1024 + maxusers*64
 
  Then at boot the system could say
 
 nmbclusters = min(TARGET_CLUSTERS, VM_LIMIT, MEM_LIMIT)
 
 nmbclusters = max(nmbclusters, MIN_CLUSTERS)
 
 
  In turn, i believe interfaces should do their part and by default
  never try to allocate more than a fraction of the total number
  of buffers,
 
  Well what fraction should that be?  It surely depends on how many
  interfaces are in the system and how many queues the other interfaces
  have.
 
  if necessary reducing the number of active queues.
 
  So now I have too few queues on my interface even after I increase the
  limit.
 
  There ought to be a standard way to configure numbers of queues and
  default queue lengths.
 
  Jack raised the problem that there is a poorly chosen default for
  nmbclusters, causing one interface to consume all the buffers.
  If the user explicitly overrides the value then
  the number of cluster should be what the user asks (memory permitting).
  The next step is on devices: if there are no overrides, the default
  for a driver is to be lean. I would say that topping the request between
  1/4 and 1/8 of the total buffers is surely better than the current
  situation. Of course if there is an explicit override, then use
  it whatever happens to the others.
 
  cheers
  luigi
 
 
  Hmmm, well, I could make the default use only 1 queue or something like
  that,
  was thinking more of what actual users of the hardware would want.
 

 I think this is more reasonable to setup interface with one queue.
 Even if the cluster does not hit the max you will end up with unbalanced
 setting that
 let very low mbuf count for other uses.


If interfaces have the possibility to use more queues, they should, imo so
I'm all for rasing the default size.

For those systems with very limited memory it's easily changed.



  After the installed kernel is booted and the admin would do whatever post
  install
  modifications they wish it could be changed, along with nmbclusters.
 
  This was why i sought opinions, of the algorithm itself, but also anyone
  using
  ixgbe and igb in heavy use, what would you find most convenient?
 
  Jack
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Re: New BSD Installer

2012-02-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM, George Kontostanos
gkontos.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 I don't think that reverting is either an option or a solution at this
 point. You can consider filing PRs.


How compatible is bsdinstaller with pc-sysinstaller? Are there any notes on
why a new installer was created over reusing pc-sysinstall?

Regards
Andreas Nilsson



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Re: New BSD Installer

2012-02-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On 13 feb 2012, at 17:08, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:

 pc-sysinstall doesn't work (well?) on non-x86 platforms so bsdinstall was 
 created as an interim solution.
I'll take your word for it, but as far as I know the backend is
shell-based as well.

/Andreas

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 On 13 Feb 2012, at 15:44, Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM, George Kontostanos
 gkontos.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 I don't think that reverting is either an option or a solution at this
 point. You can consider filing PRs.


 How compatible is bsdinstaller with pc-sysinstaller? Are there any notes on
 why a new installer was created over reusing pc-sysinstall?

 Regards
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Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
2012/2/10 Marek 'Buki' Kozlovský free...@dev.null.cz

 On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 02:56:04PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
  Hi,
 
  during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one
  of the problems was that some people would like to use
  freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel. With all
  the kernel modules we provide, the need for a custom kernel should
  be small, but on the other hand, we do not provide a small
  kernel-skeleton where you can load just the modules you need.
 
  This should be easy to change. As a first step I took the generic
  kernel and removed all devices which are available as modules, e.g.
  the USB section consists now only of the USB_DEBUG option (so that
  the module is build like with the current generic kernel). I also
  removed some storage drivers which are not available as a module.
  The rationale is, that I can not remove CAM from the kernel config
  if I let those drivers inside (if those drivers are important
  enough, someone will probably fix the problem and add the missing
  pieces to generate a module).
 
  Such a kernel would cover situations where people compile their own
  kernel because they want to get rid of some unused kernel code (and
  maybe even need the memory this frees up).
 
  The question is, is this enough? Or asked differently, why are you
  compiling a custom kernel in a production environment (so I rule out
  debug options zhich are not enabled in GENERIC)? Are there options
  which you add which you can not add as a module (SW_WATCHDOG comes
  to my mind)? If yes, which ones and how important are they for you?

 I need (not on every machine, granted) IPSEC and MROUTING

  Bye,
  Alexander.
 
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If you help a friend in need, he is sure to remember you--
the next time he's in need.
 
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IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, DEVICE_POLLING and HZ=1000.

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Re: SVN checkout

2012-01-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson 

On 01/13/2012 09:51 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:

On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Julian Kennedy wrote:


Hi All

Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask
svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a
bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I
want the 9.0 code.


$ cd /usr/src
$ svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.0.0 .
Can I just ask a for a clarification then: would .../release/8.2.5 get 
me what after buildworld+buildkernel results in 8.2-RELEASE-p5?


I ask because I have some interest in having a tree from which i easily 
can check out a given patch-version.




Cheers,
-Garrett
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Re: SVN checkout

2012-01-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Garrett Cooper yaneg...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jan 13, 2012, at 1:55 PM, John Baldwin wrote:

  On Friday, January 13, 2012 4:40:08 pm Andreas Nilsson wrote:
  On 01/13/2012 09:51 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
  On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Julian Kennedy wrote:
 
  Hi All
 
  Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask
  svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a
  bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I
  want the 9.0 code.
 
  $ cd /usr/src
  $ svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.0.0 .
  Can I just ask a for a clarification then: would .../release/8.2.5 get
  me what after buildworld+buildkernel results in 8.2-RELEASE-p5?
 
  I ask because I have some interest in having a tree from which i easily
  can check out a given patch-version.
 
  I don't think we tag the patches, I think they are just committed to
  releng/8.2 directly.  However, you could look at the logs for a given
  branch (e.g. svn log --stop-on-copy releng/8.2) and figure out the svn
  revision that would correspond to 8.2-p5.


Thanks.


 That would be my recommendation too. Things aren't always
 consistent between CVS and SVN because they're two separate systems, but it
 should be more consistent with 9.0.0+ (or at least it appeared to have been
 that way because now releng is using SVN primarily for release from what I
 saw and not CVS, which was the way things were in the past).
 Thanks,
 -Garrett

Thanks.

I had some inkling of this :) Shame on my for not keeping checkouts in a
more consistent way.

/Andreas
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Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Andreas Nilsson 
On 19 dec 2011, at 12:50, Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote:

 2011/12/19 Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org:
 Hello, Samuel.
 You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47:

 Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are
 similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time
 should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer further evaluating this
 garbage. (Yes, I have been down this rabbit hole).
  Here is one problem: we have choice from three items:

 (1) Make FreeBSD looks good on benchmarks by fixing FreeBSD

 (2) Make FreeBSD looks good on benchmarks by fixing Phoronix
 (communication with them, convincing, that they benchamrks are unfare
 / meaningless, ets)

 (3) Lose [potential] userbase.

  You know, that these benchmarks are bad. I know. But potential (and
  even some current!) user doesn't. And it seems, that these benchmarks
  become popular over Internet.

 --
 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org


 Here is where you completely derail the train, let me paste again what
 I said before.

 ...
 Take the first test as an example, Blogbench read. This doesn't raise
 any red flags, right? At least not until you realize that Blogbench
 isn't a read test, it's a read/write test. So what they have done here
 is run a read/write test and then thrown away the write results for
 both platforms and reported only the read results. If you dig down
 into the actual results,
 http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 -- you will
 see two Blogbench numbers, one for read and another for write. These
 were both taken from the same Blogbench run, so FreeBSD optimizes
 writes over reads, that's probably a good thing for your data but a
 bad thing when someone totally misrepresents benchmark results.
 ...

 FreeBSD actually does _BETTER_ (subjectively) in this test than the
 Linux system when you look at what is really going on. FreeBSD is
 favoring writes, which is _GOOD_. FreeBSD does not need to be fixed,
 the benchmarks need to be fixed to represent reality rather than
 throwing half of the results in the trash. To be quite frank, fixing
 FreeBSD to look good on this benchmark will make it a worse real-world
 OS. But you guys go ahead and foot-shoot over these ridiculous
 benchmarks all you want.

 Sam


I seem to remember that before ULE people were fleeing to Linux as the
os to run apache on since 4BSD didn't scale all too well. That may
have changed over time though.

However ULE could perhaps be made aware technologies like turbo-boost,
ie with few threads higher performance might be gained by utilizing
all virtual cores on a physical core before spreading tasks to too
different cores.

Just my speculations though :)

Regards
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