13.0-RC5 crash/reboot on cold-start, how do I get a textdump ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

I have a new laptop (Lenovo P14s), installed freebsd 13.0-RC5 on it
with ZFS, geli encryption.

If I cold-start the laptop, the first boot will crash before
going multi-user and reboot, and the next boot will be fine.

I activated /var/log/kern for kern.*, but the crash happens
so early that nothing is logged.

How can I get a textdump of that crash ?

Would boot_ddb="YES" in /boot/loader.conf help ?

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Re: FreeBSD 13.0-RC3 Now Available

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Hi!

> The third RC build of the 13.0-RELEASE release cycle is now available.

Upgrading a 13.0-RC2 poudriere jail to RC3 seems to fail ?

# poudriere jail -u -j 130 -t 13.0-RC3
[...]
To install the downloaded upgrades, run "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update.fixed 
install".
Installing updates...Scanning //usr/share/certs/blacklisted for certificates...
Scanning //usr/share/certs/trusted for certificates...
 done.
No updates are available to install.
Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update.fixed fetch' first.
[00:00:42] Error: Fail to upgrade system

A second attempt:

Fetching metadata signature for 13.0-RC3 from update4.freebsd.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... done.
Fetching 1 metadata patches. done.
Applying metadata patches... done.
Fetching 1 metadata files... done.
Inspecting system... done.
Preparing to download files... done.

No updates needed to update system to 13.0-RC3-p0.
touch: 
f465c3739385890c221dff1a05e578c6cae0d0430e46996d319db7439f884336-install/kernelfirst:
 No such file or directory
To install the downloaded upgrades, run "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update.fixed 
install".
No updates are available to install.
Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update.fixed fetch' first.
[00:01:08] Error: Fail to upgrade system

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Re: FreeBSD 13/stable and zpool upgrade

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Hi!

> We can't do that. gptzfsboot is for something else that we can't get rid
> of: BIOS/CMS booting. It's never been used for EFI booting at all. There's
> no way to for EFI to use it, nor is there anyway for us to build it to just
> work. You have to copy BOOTx64.efi to your ESP. What we could do, but don't
> currently, is automate this process.

We do not need it automated. We need it to be described in enough detail
that we can write that BOOTx64.efi to the proper place. If there are some
steps to find out where to write it etc., fine. Describe those steps.

But mentioning a vague solution without more details lets far
more unexperienced people try to fix complex issues, which will
end in desasters.

> That's been bogged down in
> implementation details. It's easy if there's only one, but if you have a
> USB stick installed, you don't want that to accidentally be upgraded, for
> example... and I have test boxes with a dozen ESPs to test different boot
> scenarios... And multiboot systems also can be screwed up by automatically
> copying things into the ESP...

Then, before automating it, give us enough details so that we
can at least do it manually.

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Re: FreeBSD 13/stable and zpool upgrade

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Hi!

> You can upgrade to 13 w/o hassle. The upgrade process doesn't automatically
> upgrade the zpools. The only problem is if you also do a 'zpool upgrade'
> which will change your zpool features. The fix is easy: upgrade your boot
> loader (bootx64.efi) on the ESP at the same time before rebooting...

In the past there was this nice warning explaining what to do:

gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0

Now, what would be the new procedure for that ?

> There's nothing really to fix here.

Well, it's very dangerous, and having a way to know how to fix
it would be very important.

> All the code is there. It all works.
> The upgrade is fail safe up until the point you do the zpool upgrade, which
> has to be done by the system administrator. It's not done in the installer
> or as part of 'make installworld'.

I understand. But if the installer does not know that she/he needs to
do something with some bootx64.efi file... ?

Can't zpool upgrade mention the necessary steps, as it did before ?

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Re: FreeBSD 13/stable and zpool upgrade

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Hi!

> > Unfortunately it contains an old version of the boot loader:
[...]
> We should be better about upgrading boot blocks, but EFI is kinda new and
> kinda different than the other out-of-root-filesystem boot blocks we've had
> in the past, so there's still some rough edges.

We run many systems at remote sites. If we can't remotely upgrade
without drama from 12.x to 13.x, that would be a catastrophe.

Any chance this can be fixed before 13.0-REL ?

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Re: 12.2-RELEASE and ctwm

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Hi!

> I just upgraded a machine from 11.4-RELEASE to 12.2-RELEASE.  Using
> the same version of ctwm (4.0.3,1 installed from packages) with the
> same .ctwmrc, things behave differently and I don't know why.
> 
> My first problem is the middle button on my Logitech TrackMan Marble
> PS/2 mouse is no longer recognized by ctwm.
> 
> Button2 =   : root  : f.menu "windowops"

Thanks -- I've seen the same with tvtwm (from 12.1 to 12.2!)

> Can someone recommend some things to look at to resolve these issues?

I hope for the same answer 8-}

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Re: 12.2-RC1: RTL8251/8153 1000BASE-T seemingly stuck at 100Mbps

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> sreehari wrote this message on Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 21:02 -0700:
> > I have a USB C hub that supports gigabit ethernet under any other OS,
> > but under FreeBSD it seems to detect it properly, but I never get
> > speeds exceeding 100Mbps transfer rate on the whole thing. Is this a
> > known issue? Also is there any way to check what the perceived link
> > speed is? I've attached dmesg.boot if that helps.
> 
> This is a known issue w/ the ure driver on FreeBSD.  This has been
> fixed in -current, and in a few months I'll look at merging it to
> stable/12, but it definitly will not make the 12.2 release:
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25809

The changes seem to be limited to the driver itself -- is some
structural change in 13 stopping a merge to 12.2 ?

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Re: Sg driver not working for makemkv in 12-stable/12.2 Beta

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> It seems that the Linux-compatible "scsi-generic" driver is not working
> in 12-stable when using multimedia/makemkv; it never finds a blu-ray
> player, which it does on 12.1.
> 
> The change that seems to have done it is revision 361038
> 
> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/12/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_sg.c
[...]
> Should I also file a bugzilla report or is this sufficient?

File a bugzilla report and give it to the commiter of 361038.

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Re: assfail

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Boots from a Samsung SSD 840EVO.

Can you check smart values ?

smartctl -a /dev/ada0

(or whatever drive you have) ?

If it's that old, maybe the SSD wear leveling comes to its ends ?

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Re: Upgrading, 11.4 -> 12.1

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Hi!

> > I'm guessing: Do you have the dbus and hald daemon running ?
> >
> > hald_enable="YES"
> > dbus_enable="YES"
> >
> > in /etc/rc.conf ?
> >
> Yes, I do.  Should I disable them, then? -- George

No, they are needed.

You mentioned that you build the x11 stuff on 11.3. I do not know
if this works, I have my doubts.

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Re: Upgrading, 11.4 -> 12.1

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> 1. Is there a way to shut "make delete-old" up?  For most minor
> upgrades, of course, it never says anything.  But for an upgrade such
> as this, it forces me to type "y" upwards of a hundred times.

I use:

yes | make delete-old

> Does this mean I need to provide a configuration file?  Where are the
> input drivers it couldn't find?  Since I have so far tried the upgrade
> on only one machine, the X server was compiled under 11.3:

I'm guessing: Do you have the dbus and hald daemon running ?

hald_enable="YES"
dbus_enable="YES"

in /etc/rc.conf ?

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Re: The spkr driver

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I'd like to retire the spkr driver. It was a cute hack before sound cards
> were ubiquitous, but it's not been kept up to date, and it's not clear that
> it still works It is still Giant locked, and though it's not a huge
> effort to do the locking I literally have no way to test it that I trust...

It works on PC Engines APU devices, and together with morse, it's
very, very cool 8-}

So, please keep it and un-giant it, if possible.

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Re: Ethernet interface Watchdog timeout

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> # uname -a
> FreeBSD lash.internal 12.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE-p2 GENERIC  amd64

See here:

https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-20:09.igb.asc

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Re: Firefox pkg for 11.4-RELEASE amd64

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> After looking at this some more I see the problem.
> 
> http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:11:amd64/release_4/All/
[...]
> Anyone know why firefox didn't make it into release_4?

No, but I've started a build on https://repo.nepustil.net/114/, so
that you can get it from there in a few hours.

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Re: possible problem with pkg in FreeBSD11.4-BETA2

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> This might be due to cockpit error, but I don't remember the exact history
> of this machine.  I have a test machine that was running 11.3-RELEASE, and
> had been upgraded with freebsd-update.  I upgraded it to 11.4-BETA1 last
> week, and BETA2 this weekend.  Then I tried "pkg upgrade" and got an
> error:

Use

pkg bootstrap -f

There's some hickup in the upgrade path between your version
and the most current, so...

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Re: FreeBSD 12.1-RC1 Now Available

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> The first RC build of the 12.1-RELEASE release cycle is now available.

If I try to update a 12.1-BETA3 poudriere jail to 12.1-RC1,
this happens:

poudriere jail -j 121 -u -t 12.1-RC1
[...]
To install the downloaded upgrades, run "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update.fixed 
install".
Installing updates... done.
No updates are available to install.
Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update.fixed fetch' first.
[00:00:40] Error: Fail to upgrade system
[...]

And poudriere jail -l confirms the failed update.

So it somehow tries to run a freebsd-update.fixed program, but
this seems to fail. Any ideas how to fix this ?

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Re: FreeBSD 12.1-BETA2 Now Available

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> The second BETA build of the 12.1-RELEASE release cycle is now
> available.

Upgrading a 12.1-BETA1 poudriere install with

poudriere jail -u -t 12.1-BETA2 -j 121

fails with:

No updates needed to update system to 12.1-BETA2-p0.
touch: 
f465c3739385890c221dff1a05e578c6cae0d0430e46996d319db7439f884336-install/kernelfirst:
 No such file or directory
To install the downloaded upgrades, run "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update.fixed 
install".
No updates are available to install.
Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update.fixed fetch' first.
[00:00:26] Error: Fail to upgrade system

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Re: FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins.

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Hi!

> > > Alternative is to for announcers to do Less work: 
> > > Send each announcement when ready.

> > The problem is not the announcement, the problem is providing
> > the freebsd-update.

> > If announcements are send when ready, and the freebsd-update is
> > not ready, therefore, the timeframes to attack systems with unpatched
> > problems are much longer.

> True as far as that goes for binary users, but often source patches
> are available faster, which begs the question: when to announce ?
> When there's diffs ? When diffs are commited to src/ (used to be the norm *) ?
> When there's some binary update ? 
> Whne a whole bunch of 8 arrive in 3 minutes ? Gasp !

Now I understand why you bring this up.

I guess the majority of users are using the binary update path.

Maybe re@ can explain how the process is for these steps ?

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Re: FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins.

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Hi!

> > > PR headline : "FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins."
> > > 
> > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2019-May/date.html
> > > 
> > > Volunteers who contribute actual fixes are very much appreciated;
> > > But those styled as 'management' who delay announcements to batch floods
> > > damage us.
> > 
> > 8 announcements and one freebsd-update is easier on the
> > admin and the re-team than 8 announcements and 8 freebsd-update runs.
> > 
> > That's probably why they are batched. Because all of the fixes
> > are bundled in one update.
> > 
> > If the re-team-capacity is limited, what would be the alternative?

> Alternative is to for announcers to do Less work: 
> Send each announcement when ready.

The problem is not the announcement, the problem is providing
the freebsd-update.

If announcements are send when ready, and the freebsd-update is
not ready, therefore, the timeframes to attack systems with unpatched
problems are much longer.

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Re: FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins.

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> PR headline : "FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins."
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2019-May/date.html
> 
> Volunteers who contribute actual fixes are very much appreciated;
> But those styled as 'management' who delay announcements to batch floods
> damage us.

8 announcements and one freebsd-update is easier on the
admin and the re-team than 8 announcements and 8 freebsd-update runs.

That's probably why they are batched. Because all of the fixes
are bundled in one update.

If the re-team-capacity is limited, what would be the alternative?

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Re: ZFS...

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Hi!

> If one triggers such a fault on a production server, how can one
> justify transferring from backup multiple terabytes (or even petabytes
> now) of data to repair an unmountable/faulted array because all
> backup solutions I know currently would take days if not weeks to
> restore the sort of store ZFS is touted with supporting.

Isn't that the problem with all large storage systems ?

Even mainframe storage (with very different concepts behind it) can
become messed up so much that there's no hope left.

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Re: ZFS...

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I know I'm not going to be popular for this, but I'll just drop it here
> anyhow.
> 
> http://www.michellesullivan.org/blog/1726

With all due respect, I think if that filesystem/server you describe
has not kept with all those mishaps, I think it's not perfect, but
nothing is.

> Perhaps one should reconsider either:
> 
> 2. Defaulting to non ZFS filesystems on install.

I had more cases of UFS being toast than ZFS until now.

> 1. Looking at tools that may be able to recover corrupt ZFS metadata, or

Here I agree! Making tools available to dig around zombie zpools,
which is icky in itself, would be helpful!

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Re: possibly silly binmiscctl question

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Hi!

> If I give binmiscctl the magic for arm6 and then for say mips64, will
> this break things?
> 
> Let's say I'm using an amd64 box to cross-compile using poudriere
> for arm6 and mips64 ports. Can I do both on the same box at the same
> time? Or do I need to let's say the arm6 run to finish, then give
> binmiscctl
> its magic strings for mips64, and THEN run the build run for that arch?

I used two archs in parallel in the past, that was no problem.

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Re: Java support

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> With the Java FreeBSD mailing list pretty quiet, I thought I might ask 
> here whether anyone was working on porting the latest Java versions over 
> to FreeBSD.

There's the openjdk port, java/openjdk8.

You are asking about input from the FreeBSD community to openjdk9, 10 and 11 ?

> While Java 8 will be quite satisfactory for a while, the longer Java 
> advances without BSD patches the harder it will be to bring across all 
> the good work done for Java 8 on FreeBSD.

This is correct.

> Are there plans for the Foundation to sponsor some work in this area? 

Your point is, that the FreeBSD community should do regular testbuilds for

https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk-jdk9u/
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk-jdk10u/
https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk-jdk11u/

and provide patches if something does not build or work, right ?

And, if necessary, fund someone to do that work ?

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Re: Binary update to -STABLE? And if so, what do I get?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I know (and have done) binary updates between -RELEASE versions
[...]
> How do I do this, say, coming from 11.2 and wanting to target 12 post
> the IPv6 fix MFC?

You can't. Either wait until a 12.0 with the fix included or
12.1 is released, or you fetch the source with the fix included,
and build from source.

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Re: 11.2-STABLE kernel wired memory leak

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Hi!

> > Use following command to see how much memory is wasted in your case:
> > 
> > vmstat -z | awk -F, '{printf "%10s %s\n", $2*$5/1024/1024, $1}' | sort 
> > -k1,1 -rn | head
> 
> Oops, small correction:
> 
> vmstat -z | sed 's/:/,/' | awk -F, '{printf "%10s %s\n", $2*$5/1024/1024, 
> $1}' | sort -k1,1 -rn | head

On a 8 GB 11.2p8 box doing mostly routing:

  42.3047 abd_chunk
40 zio_buf_131072
 31.75 zio_data_buf_131072
   19.8901 swblk
   12.9224 RADIX NODE
   11.7344 zio_buf_16384
   10.0664 zio_data_buf_12288
   9.84375 zio_data_buf_40960
 9.375 zio_data_buf_81920
   7.96875 zio_data_buf_98304

So, how do I understand this ? Please note that I use:

vfs.zfs.arc_max=1216348160

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Re: Status of libarchive/bsdtar maintainership

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Hi!

> > Almost 3 months have passed and no response from upstream.
> > Should we go ahead and fix it despite of it is part of contrib?

> Do you have a fix? Can you put it up for review somewhere?

It's in the PR, see

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=199000

> We are no where
> near a release, so there is no reason to rush this in.

It's reported *because* production systems already *have* issues...

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Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD Errata Notice FreeBSD-EN-19:05.kqueue

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Hi!

> > Credits:Mark Johnston
> > Affects:FreeBSD 11.2
> > Corrected:  2019-11-24 17:11:47 UTC (stable/11, 11.2-STABLE)
> 
> Should this be 2018 or is this yet in the future?

And why does fbsd-update fail like this:

The update metadata is correctly signed, but
failed an integrity check.
Cowardly refusing to proceed any further.

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Re: APU2, legacy firmware 4.0.22, FreeBSD 12.0 hangs in boot

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> What do the newer firmwares give you ? i.e. why upgrade ? On my APU3s I
> am running

> and havent seen any issues with it ? Are there new features ?

I had an issue, FreeBSD 12.0 would only boot *very* slowly. That's why I started
upgrading to legacy 4.0.22, which would not boot at all, then to 4.8.05,
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Re: APU2, legacy firmware 4.0.22, FreeBSD 12.0 hangs in boot

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> It was my understanding FreeBSD only worked with the "legacy" firmware
> releases.

Well, that's what I thought as well, but when the legacy did not work,
I tried the mainline (the 4.8.0.5), it worked.

> Since 4.8.0.5 is a "mainline" release, is there any particular
> reason not to go for the newest "mainline" release (v4.8.0.7) ?

I did not test the .7, due to my fatfingering during the download/update 8-}
As it worked, I'm fine for now.

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Re: APU2, legacy firmware 4.0.22, FreeBSD 12.0 hangs in boot

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Has there been any progress on this?
> 
> I'm asking because I'd very much like to upgrade my apu's to FreeBSD 12 as
> well!

Well, if you can upgrade your firmware to 4.8.0.5, it should work (it
was a re-install).

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Re: APU2, legacy firmware 4.0.22, FreeBSD 12.0 hangs in boot

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Our developers ask for the full log you could provide.

Below the boot1 with 4.0.22, that stalled.

And the boot2, with 4.8.0.5, that worked.

Serial Number: 1086158

-boot1---
PC Engines apu2
coreboot build 20180312
BIOS version v4.0.22
4080 MB ECC DRAM

SeaBIOS (version rel-1.11.0.7-0-gdc51f90)

Press F10 key now for boot menu

Booting from Hard Disk...
//bbtt//ccoonnffiigg::  --DDhh  --SS5522000

0



CCoonnssoolleess::  iinntteerrnnaall  vviiddeeoo//kkeeyybbooaarrdd
sseerriiaall  ppoorrtt  

BBIIOOSS  ddrriivvee  CC::  iiss  ddiisskk00  

 ||// --\\||//-- \\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\ 
||//--\\||//BBIIOOSS  663399kkBB//3388779922kkBB  aavvaaiillaabbllee  
mmeemmoorryy  

 

FFrrBBSSDD//xx8866  bbttssttrraapp  llooaaddeerr,,  RReevviissiioonn  
11..11  

--\\||//-- \\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\|| 
//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//-- 
\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\ 
||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\ 
||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||// 
--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\|| 
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//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||//--\\||
 //LLooaaddiinngg  //bbtt//ddeeffaauullttss//llooaaddeerr..ccoonnff  

LLooaaddiinngg  //bbtt//ddeevviiccee..hhiinnttss  

--\\||//--\\||//--\\ LLooaaddiinngg  //bbtt//llooaaddeerr..ccoonnff  

||//--\\||//--\\||//Loading /boot/loader.conf.local
   ```` s` `.---...--.```   -/ +o   .--`
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  ::/sy+:.  / `--  / `: 
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|_) |) | |__| | | |   | | |||| |  |  | |_|   |_|  
\___|\___||/|_/|_/ 
??Welcome
 to FreeBSD1. Boot Multi user [Enter]2. Boot Single user3. Escape to loader 
prompt4. RebootOptions:5. Kernel: default/2kernel (1 of 1)6. Boot 
OptionsAutoboot in 10 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 9 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 8 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 7 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 6 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 5 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 4 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 3 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 2 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 1 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Autoboot in 0 seconds, hit [Enter] to boot or any other key to stop 
Loading kernel...
/boot/kernel/kernel text=0x1678a68 data=0x1cd288+0x768b40 
syms=[0x8+0x174cd8+0x8+0x19224a]
Loading configured modules...
/boot/entropy size=0x1000
/boot/kernel/zfs.ko size 0x3a9a10 at 0x263e000
loading required module 'opensolaris'
/boot/kernel/opensolaris.ko size 0xa4f0 at 0x29e8000
---<>---
Copyright (c) 1992-2018 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE r341666 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on LLVM 
6.0.1)
VT(vga): resolution 640x480
CPU: AMD GX-412TC SOC(998.15-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x730f01  Family=0x16  Model=0x30  Stepping=1
  
Features=0x178bfbff
  
Features2=0x3ed8220b
  AMD Features=0x2e500800
  AMD 
Features2=0x1d4037ff
  Structured Extended Features=0x8
  XSAVE Features=0x1
  SVM: NP,NRIP,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=8
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 4815060992 (4592 MB)
avail memory = 4092137472 (3902 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
random: 

Re: Common Desktop Environment broken when compiling from ports tree on FreeBSD 12 RC3 (May also apply to the final build)

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > > PPC64 with the advent of Power9 is the only real alternative platform
> > > to amd64 in the data center [...]

> > I'm curious, isn't arm64 also a contender in this market ?

> Supposedly. The FF has invested in it greatly. Nonetheless, none of the
> offerings have been very good in practice.

That's interesting. Can you elaborate ?

Is it the stability of the hardware itself ? Are the hardware offerings too
diverse so that the boxes aren't compatible between each other ? Is the
performance not sufficient to compete with amd64 ? Are there legal issues
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Re: Common Desktop Environment broken when compiling from ports tree on FreeBSD 12 RC3 (May also apply to the final build)

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Hi!

> PPC64 with the advent of Power9 is the only real alternative platform
> to amd64 in the data center [...]

I'm curious, isn't arm64 also a contender in this market ?

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Re: APU2, legacy firmware 4.0.22, FreeBSD 12.0 hangs in boot

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Testing FreeBSD 12.0 on an apu2d4 with WLAN board, after upgrading to
> 
> http://pcengines.ch/file/apu2_v4.0.22.rom.tar.gz
> 
> the boot hangs after:

With apu2_v4.8.0.5.rom it boots.

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APU2, legacy firmware 4.0.22, FreeBSD 12.0 hangs in boot

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

Testing FreeBSD 12.0 on an apu2d4 with WLAN board, after upgrading to

http://pcengines.ch/file/apu2_v4.0.22.rom.tar.gz

the boot hangs after:

[...]
Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0
attimer0:  port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100
hpet0:  iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on acpi0
Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950
Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x818-0x81b on acpi0
acpi_button0:  on acpi0
pcib0:  port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0:  on pcib0

It booted with the former version, but very slowly.

I can provide a full boot log if required. Any ideas ?

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Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Well, another lockup. This time after ~ 10 days of uptime. Box was idle
> at the time and just a solid freeze.

Here's another datapoint: No lockups/problems with:

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X
Board: PRIME X399-A (not the -PRO)
BIOS from 10/12/2018
running: 13.0-CURRENT r340445
up 19 days, running as a package builder

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Re: OpenSSL version in -STABLE?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> As I understand it, there are plans for a major upgrade of OpenSSL in
> -CURRENT.

Yes.

> Will this likely be backported to 11-STABLE

As far as I understand: most probably not, it would break
too much on 11-STABLE (it's a mess on 12, too 8-})

> or should I prepare
> switching to 12 when it is ready? Would prefer not to be dependant on
> the security/openssl port.

Well, both have the same upstream, so in the end, both will
probably need/receive updates...

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Re: Error validating server certificate

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > You will not see this if you install the security/ca_root_nss port.

> Why is security/ca_root_nss not present in base?

There are several reasons:

- The project is hesistant to endorse certificate authorities (CAs), as some
  of them might be (or become) of questionable trust-worthyness
  during the lifetime of a release and adding/changing all or some to base
  would add workload to decide which ones to include or to exclude.

- The amount of work to cut a new release or a patch for a release
  is large. If you look at the update frequency for the port:
  https://www.freshports.org/security/ca_root_nss/
  it would burden the project with base updates just for the CAs.

- Some suggested that the FreeBSD project should operate its own CA and
  issue certs for project sites and include the CA into base.
  Running and securing a CA is not a simple endeavour so we hesitated
  to do so.

> I mean, on a brand new install, one goes to update the sources, and just 
> the sources. And this error is issued?
> 
> I think it looks bad. Do you agree?

Yes, we all agree that it looks bad, but we have not yet found a simple,
workable solution. Yes, it was discussed many times in the past.

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NFS via IPv6 between 11.2-REL amd64 and larger (>45 files) directories?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

I've seen a strange effect: NFS via IPv6 between 11.2-REL amd64
boxes failed for directories with more than 45 files or directories.
Small directories worked. It seems to be an issue with
ipv6 fragmentation (?), as can be seen by tcpdump:

17:54:16.855978 IP6 nfs-serv > nfs-client frag (0|1448) 2049 > 709: NFS reply 
xid 1536109002 reply ok 1440 readdir
17:54:16.855979 IP6 nfs-serv > nfs-client frag (1448|36)

As soon as the NFS request is sent with fragments, it stalls.

Is this a known issue ?

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Re: FreeBSD blocks on BOCHS serial port

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> 14.08.2018 3:15, Alexander Lochmann wrote:
> 
> >> You should not rely on defaults and make sure you disable modem control/CD
> >> either explicitly (using stty(1) etc.) or implicitly by switching to 
> >> /dev/cuau0
> >> instead of /dev/ttyu0. Flow control settings should match too, for both 
> >> sides
> >> of virtual port.
> > Thx. I cannot even run 'stty < /dev/ttyu1' to see the current settings.
> > It simply blocks...
> 
> Use /dev/ttyu1.init to see defaults and /dev/ttyu1.lock to set/show
> locked defaults that cannot be changed without disabling a lock first.

Thanks for this pointer! Is that behaviour written down/explained
somewhere in the man pages ?

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Re: py-fail2ban turned silent after syslogd rollout (r335059, stable/11)

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> >> Could you please give any advice or workaround for this issue?
> > I switched to a workaround for the time being which you might use as well 
> > in a similar way:
> >
> > #) configure fail2ban to use /var/log/faillog
> > #) run something like that in the background:
> >
> > nohup tail -q -F /var/log/fail2ban.log | logger -t fail2ban.filter -p 
> > daemon.notice &
> >
> > #) to let this workaround survive a reboot you need to use a script fired 
> > up from /etc/rc.d
> >
> >
> 
> I have rolled back to r334835. The issue has gone. Should a PR be
> created about this regression ?

Yes, please.

> BTW a few decent syslog daemons are available in /usr/ports/sysutils.

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Re: removable storage usability, devd, hald and X11-desktop in general

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

Thanks for the detailed report.

> For those who agree with my _user_ usability view, as a summary, can you 
> tell me:
> o How do you access mobile media like FAT UFDs and NTFS HDDs?

I sudo to root and mount it.

> o How do you access aribtrary DVDs (yes, besides data, I'm also curious 
> if someone watches video discs and how)?

Data dvds: See above.

Video:

I use one of those commands:

mplayer -mouse-movements dvdnav://
mplayer -dvd-device /dev/cd0 dvd://1
mplayer -dvd-device /dev/cd0 -alang en dvd://1
mplayer -identify dvd://

and a few other combinations. Works, I only vaguely remember one case where
no variant did work at all.

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Re: FreeBSD 11.1 ixl(4) interface does not negotiate at 100 Mbit/s

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> any ideas why a current RELENG_11_1 system with ixl(4)
> onboard interfaces might not negotiate with a switch that
> has only fast ethernet?
> 
> status: no carrieron the host
> line protocol is down (notconnect)on the switch
> 
> dmesg:
> https://imgur.com/9ri9is8

Please install

net/intel-ixl-kmod

and try again.

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Re: FreeBSD on AMD Epyc boards

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> To have a bit of a work around for the Intel Meltdown bug (yes, no
> Spectre), I wanted to try out some AMD based CPUs.  So far so good using
> a SuperMicro H11SSL-i.  A decent server board using an Epyc CPU.  All
> the things you need and expect for a server grade MB

On the plus side: 16+16 cores, on the minus: A low CPU tact of 2.2 GHz.
Would a box like this be better for a package build host instead of 4+4 cores
with 3.x GHz ?

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Re: Ancient FreeBSD update path

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into
> this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) 
> 
> I'm talking about a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 and a couple of FreeBSD
> 9.3-RELEASE-p53. 
> 
> What upgrade strategy would you suggest? 

The best way is to update stepwise using freebsd-update, so:

8.0 -> 8.3 -> 9.1 -> 9.3 -> 10.1 -> 10.3

> Direct jump into the future (8 -> 11)? Progressive steps (8 -> 9 -> 10
> -> 11)? Boiling water on the HDs? :-) 

Stepwise. Huge jumps have too many rough edges.

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Re: error instaling any ports

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> yes
> a lot of "> 10.4 RELEASE" and " current version"

Ah, so you skipped some of the questions during the update.

Well, that takes a bit of work to clean up, but it's no deal breaker.

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Re: error instaling any ports

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> After second freebsd-update install

Boot single-user and edit /etc/defaults/rc.conf and/or /etc/rc.conf,
there's some typo somewhere.

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Re: error instaling any ports

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Im with a 9.3 Release now (thanks Kurt)
> but When I try to install a port, same error
> 
> root@avvio-fw:/usr/src # cd /usr/ports/net-mgmt/rancid3/
> root@avvio-fw:/usr/ports/net-mgmt/rancid3 # make delete-old-libs
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1045: Unknown directive
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> Variable .CURDIR is recursive.
> 
> 
> Do I need to upgrade to 10?

Yes, as 9.3 is no longer supported, too.

https://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup

lists what is supported. But: You can update using
freebsd-update now. Try this:

freebsd-update -r 10.4-RELEASE upgrade
# Installation kernel
freebsd-update install
shutdown -r now
# installation some userspace
freebsd-update install
# pkg-update
freebsd-update install

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Re: error instaling any ports

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> ok, I will try this, becausa I did everthing, then I reboot, like this steps
> 
> svn checkout https://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.3.0/ .
> make buildworld
> make buildkernel
> make installkernel
> make installworld
> 
> mergemaster -UiP
> shutdown -r now

Yes, this works for small upgrades, most of the time. Sometimes
it fails.

I was lazy when I listed it that way.

The reboot should have been between installkernel and installworld.

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Re: error instaling any ports

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> yes I can boot single mode, mount / , etc

Try to boot single user mode with the new kernel, then re-run

make installworld
mergemaster -UiP

The normal way to do it is to reboot after

make installkernel

If you ran the installworld before the reboot, some files might
not be copied.

Another thing: Try to run

ifconfig

and see if it can list the interfaces of the box. Maybe it's the
old ifconfig binary still left.

> Why you think its a kernel problem not some file that I change
> in mergemaster questions

I vagely remember that there was an ifconfig thing sometime around
9.x.

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Re: error instaling any ports

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I follow the steps (that Kurt sent with his help)
> After the mergemaster -UiP
> the server stop at boot, after this point (see pictures attached)

Can you boot single-mode ?

Can you boot the old kernel ?

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Re: programm to edit rc.conf key/values ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> sysrc nrpe2_enable="YES"
> 
> for instance

Yes, that's it! Thanks!

man rc.conf and man rc need a pointer to this!

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programm to edit rc.conf key/values ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

I vaguely remember that there's a new way to edit the content of
/etc/rc.conf via some command, to be used in scripting system-setups.

Can someone point me into the right direction ?

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Re: error instaling any ports

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > uname -a
[...]
> > *server# uname -aFreeBSD server.avgroup.loc 9.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD

So you have a PRERELEASE version and you have a custom kernel.

Do you know why that is ? Any specific change that needs to
be in that kernel config ?

Please check if you have a 'svn' binary somewhere, because it looks
like you need to do a source upgrade first.

rm -rf /usr/obj /usr/src
mkdir /usr/src
cd /usr/src
svn checkout https://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.3.0/ .
make buildworld
make buildkernel
make installkernel
make installworld
mergemaster -UiP
shutdown -r now
cd /usr/src
make check-old
make delete-old
make delete-old-libs

> *server# freebsd-update -r 9.3-RELEASE upgradeLooking up update.freebsd.org
>  mirrors... 3 mirrors found.Fetching public key
> from update6.freebsd.org... failed.Fetching public key from
> update5.freebsd.org... failed.Fetching public key from
> update4.freebsd.org... failed.No mirrors remaining, giving up*

Well, freebsd-update only works on GENERIC kernels and systems, so
your first step needs to be a source upgrade.

Please note: Your binaries from 9.1-PRE will work on 9.3, and probably on
10.x, so no need to worry about the packages installed for now. 

You can rebuild your ports when you're on 10.x.

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Re: error instaling any ports

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Yes, I need help, its exactly what Im trying to do, upgrade
> to a newer version

So, what does

uname -a

say ?

What does

freebsd-version -ku

say ?

Can you try to do these steps to get to a slightly newer version first ?

freebsd-update -r 9.3-RELEASE upgrade
# installation kernel
freebsd-update install
shutdown -r now
# installation userspace
freebsd-update install
# pkg-update
freebsd-update install

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Re: error instaling any ports

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I have a 9.1 freebsd server, and every ports I try to install I get
> the follow error

9.1 is no longer supported. Any chance to upgrade ? Do you need
help to upgrade that box ?

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Re: firefox compilation problem

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > I've got the following problem: the firefox building from ports ends with 
> > errors:
[...]

There's a problem report for this:

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=222641

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Re: firefox compilation problem

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I've got the following problem: the firefox building from ports ends with 
> errors:
> 
> --
> x86_64-unknown-freebsd/release/libgkrust.a: could not read symbols: File 
> format not recognized

Same here, with a build in poudriere.

http://people.freebsd.org/~pi/logs/firefox-56.0_1,1.log

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Re: ABI changes within stable branch

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Now that we are on a faster upgrade policy for minor branches, it is expected 
> that we'll upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1 to 11.2 much faster than in the old 
> days. I can cope with that, but it appears that functional changes are also 
> being made within the stable branch as seen here:
> 
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=221672
> 
> A new fdatasync()  method is available in 11.1 but not in 11.0 which means 
> that I now need to maintain separate ports trees for each minor update. I've 
> never done this before, assuming (correctly for me until now) that all ports 
> build on the latest minor release within the stable branch would work on 
> older releases until I was ready to upgrade them.

I think it was the other way around: All ports build on the .0 of
a RELEASE work on all later .x of that RELEASE. Which makes it a bit
difficult, if a .0 is no longer supported/patched by the secteam.

A pointer to the official policy would be nice 8-}

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Re: Mirror the freebsd-update server?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > is it possible or even allowed to just mirror one of the freebsd-update 
> > servers locally?
[...]

> Take a look at https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/hubs/index.html.
> This doc discusses setting up a mirror (found via quick Google
> search).

That's a mirror of some FTP server, but a fbsd-update repo is
somewhat different. A fbsd-update repo setup is described here:

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-update-server/article.html

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Re: Is it worth waiting for AMD Opteron X3000 support in FreeBSD? Bug [221350]

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> The full details with boot console outputs: 
> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/61936/
> 
> Bugzilla bug: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=221350

Please compare with

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213155
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214242

If this matches your problem, Martin Waschbuesch is working
with the FreeBSD Foundation and Ed Maste to get this reproduced
and fixed.

If this does not match, please give a short heads up -- if possible,
elaborate.

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Re: mdconfig and UDF

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Is there any chance to mount UDF filesystem under FreeBSD with mdconfig 
> and ISO image ? Mount -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt/cdrom gives me the 
> readme.txt with "This is UDF, you idiot" and mount -t udf /dev/md0 
> /mnt/cdrom gives me
> 
> 
> # mount -t udf /dev/md0 cdrom
> mount_udf: /dev/md0: Invalid argument

sysutils/udfclient

provides some rough way to access the image -- would
that help ?

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Re: Compile-time check for clock_nanosleep()

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

>   Some time ago, I ported a linux program that was using clock_nanosleep().
> I see now that the extra code I'd put in isn't needed anymore in 11-stable,
> as it appears this call was added in 11.1.  My question is, to
> properly protect these changes, what is the best way to know at
> compile time, either (a) that that call is in libc, or (b) that
> I'm compiling on FreeBSD 11.1 or later ?

Use __FreeBSD_version from sys/param.h:

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/versions.html

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Re: No TCP-MD5 in 11.1-PRERELEASE.

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> After upgrading to 11.1-PRERELEASE, none of my MD5 BGP connections are
> coming up.  They were fine in 11.0-RELEASE.

Please submit a PR via bugs.freebsd.org and send the PR number.

We should bring this to the attention of re@.

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Re: 10.3-stable random server reboots - finding the reason

[Kurt Jaeger]

> Hello stable@
> 
> I have an up-to-date 10.3 server that is randomly rebooting, after being
> up for days. Previously it had been up for many months. The problem is,
> nothing seems to be left in the logs to indicate why it's doing this. I
> have all.log and console.log enabled.
> 
> So, what I'm asking is, how can I capture its last gasp?

Do you have a serial port on that server ? Use it as a console port:

1)
echo '-Dh -S115200' > /boot.config
2)
vi /boot/loader.conf

console="comconsole"
comconsole_speed=115200


Then: connect it to some kermit session from a different box,
and write a session log. This might capture some last gasp.

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Re: How to copy ACLs on ZFS with tar ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > I have a file with the following ACL (in fact, a whole tree with files
> > like that):
> > 
> > srv$ getfacl myfile
> > # file: myfile
> > # owner: myuser
> > # group: domain-users
> >  group:myuser:rw-p--aARWcCo-:---:allow
> >group@:rw-p--a-R-c---:---:allow
> > everyone@:rw-p--a-R-c---:---:allow
> > 
> > How do I copy this file or the tree with tar, while preserving the ACLs ?
> > Or do I have to use something else ?
> 
> Not sure about tar, but plain "cp -p" should do the trick.

This worked fine. Thanks! Shouldn't tar work, too ?

According to this commit to libarchive:

https://github.com/libarchive/libarchive/commit/59e3c3919b66cc1f1a59a9c32307befe015f40e8

it will be supported soon.

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How to copy ACLs on ZFS with tar ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

I have a file with the following ACL (in fact, a whole tree with files
like that):

srv$ getfacl myfile
# file: myfile
# owner: myuser
# group: domain-users
  group:myuser:rw-p--aARWcCo-:---:allow
group@:rw-p--a-R-c---:---:allow
 everyone@:rw-p--a-R-c---:---:allow

How do I copy this file or the tree with tar, while preserving the ACLs ?
Or do I have to use something else ?

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Re: Updating from 10.2 to 11.0 fails integrity check

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I'm trying to update from 10.20 to 11.0 and am failing:
> 
> $ sudo freebsd-update -r 11.0-RELEASE upgrade
> Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found.
> Fetching metadata signature for 10.2-RELEASE from update6.freebsd.org... done.
> Fetching metadata index... done.
> Inspecting system... done.
> 
> The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed:
> kernel/generic src/src world/base world/games world/lib32
> 
> The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed:
> world/doc
> 
> Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y
> 
> Fetching metadata signature for 11.0-RELEASE from update6.freebsd.org... done.
> Fetching metadata index... done.
> 
> The update metadata is correctly signed, but
> failed an integrity check.
> Cowardly refusing to proceed any further.
> 
> 
> Can any one give me some ideas as to why the integrity check is failing?

Please update to 10.2p first. It provides a new
freebsd-update which correctly calculates some metadata
for you to update to 11.0 after that.

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Re: reset not working like 70% of the time

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > I had some cases in the past where xterm was hanging, too -- but
> > not with *that* high rate of problems.
> 
> Hmm that doesn???t sound too good. Potentially exploitable bug? 

I assume so, yes. Needs more fuzzying 8-}

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Re: reset not working like 70% of the time

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> does anyone suffer from this too ? Right now (and for several last
> years) a 100% decent way to reset a terminal session (for instance,
> after a connection reset, after acidentally displaying a binary file
> with symbols that are treated as terminal control sequence, after
> breaking a cu session, etc) is to launch midnight commander and then
> quit from it. And the reset is working like in 30% of cases only.
[...]
> Am I the only person seeing this ?

I had some cases in the past where xterm was hanging, too -- but
not with *that* high rate of problems.

Most of the times, xterm's Full Reset options works fine.

The question is: how to debug that... ?

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Re: broken source upgrade 9.3-STABLE to 10.3-STABLE

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I've got legacy FreeBSD server running 8.4-STABLE and I'm trying to upgrade 
> it.
> Source upgrade for 8.4 to 9.3-STABLE r310015 went flawlessly.
> After reboot, I checked out stable/10 r310043 sources and ran buildworld 
> again.
> It fails:

I suggest two different approaches (have not tried that, but...)

1) sidegrade (with build-from-source) to 9.3-RELEASE, then use
   freebsd-update to 10.x

2) don't upgrade to 10-STABLE, but surce-upgrade to 10.0 or 10.1-RELEASE

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Re: ue1 and ue2 swinging

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I had a very similar problem, which led me to throw this together:
> 
> https://github.com/eborisch/ethname
> 
> I think the comments in it are fairly complete, let me know if anything
> doesn't make sense.

Can you submit a PR via bugs.freebsd.org so that this script can be added
as port or to the base system ?

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Re: FreeBSD 11 RC1 - no wifi

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> After upgrade and a last reboot the iwn driver gets loaded but no iwn0
> interface pops up.

In 11, the hardware interfaces no longer appear.

They still can be found with

sysctl net.wlan.devices

> Doing a 'service netif restart' crashes the machine
> and a core is written.

The crash should not happen.

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Re: lots of security advisories rehashed

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I subscribe to the RSS feed of FreeBSD security advisories 
> (http://vuxml.freebsd.org/freebsd/rss.xml). Today, it told me that there 
> were forty-something advisories. I went to the VuXML site and saw that a 
> stack of old entries have been updated to have today as their "Entry" 
> date. What's the reason? Is it something to be worried about?

No, as far as I know.

Mark Feld added some VuXML entries to ancient bugs, for completeness.

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Re: Problems with em0 driver after upgrade to r303832

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I upgraded my local machine to the above revision a few days ago. Since then 
> I have seen the local em0 card locking up and getting he following
> messages in dmesg
> 
> em0: Watchdog timeout -- resetting
> em0: link state changed to DOWN
> em0: link state changed to UP
> 
> 
> I thought it was the physical card, but I have swapped this out
> for a completely different one and the problems remain.

What does pciconf -lvb display for the PCI IDs for this card ?

If you use r303832, this is CURRENT (12.x) ? Then maybe the
question should be discussed on curr...@freebsd.org.

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Re: unionfs bugs, a partial patch and some comments [Was: Re: 1-BETA3 Panic: __lockmgr_args: downgrade a recursed lockmgr nfs @ /usr/local/share/deploy-tools/RELENG_11/src/sys/fs/unionfs/union_vnops.c

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Since then I'm draging a minimal patch which prevents at least the
> kernel panics for me.
> Unfortunately I don't have the skills to continue Attilio Raos work.
> 
> Just for anybody else needing unionfs:
> https://people.freebsd.org/~attilio/unionfs_missing_insmntque_lock.patch

Is this referenced in any PR ? If not, can you create one ?

> First thing to do for me, after I won in lottery, was to find someone
> who can be sponsored fixing unionfs ;-) And bringing MNAMELEN into 21st
> century state, matching ZFS needs:
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2015-November/048640.html
> This is another patch I'm carrying for a very long time which solves
> tremendous limitations for me. Without that, I couldn't use ZFS
> snapshots in real world, along with a human-friendly dataset naming :-)

And is there a PR for that ?

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Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Is there any information available on when freebsd-update might
> be corrected to upgrade some 9.3 systems to 11.0?

Does

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211354

help ?

> I have a number of production systems on 9.3 that need to be
> upgraded.  I can't go to 10.x as it won't boot on that hardware.
> However, 11.0 does boot.  I can't afford the downtime to completely
> rebuild them.

Uh, that sounds complicated.

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Re: rc scripts new login_class, default can break old rc scripts

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> So my question is this, should old rc scripts adapt to this new default, or
> should the default be changed to avoid issues like I just found?

There should be a PR about this, and please give it to re
(release engineering).

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Re: FreeBSD 10.3 slow boot on Supermicro X11SSW-F

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > Before: ca. 660 seconds to reboot, now 77 seconds to reboot.
> > Now, if someone could explain, why...

> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2016-June/084865.html

Any pointer to a commit or three that fixed it ?

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Re: FreeBSD 10.3 slow boot on Supermicro X11SSW-F

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > I installed FreeBSD 10.3 on brand new machine Supermicro X11SSW-F. It 
> > sits on top of 4x 1TB Samsung SSDs on ZFS RAIDZ2.
> > 
> > The booting is painfully slow from BTX to menu to kernel loading.
> 
> I have the same problem on a Supermicro X11SSH-LN4F.

> > I found this blog post solving the same problem
> > http://smyck.net/2016/06/15/freebsd-slow-zfs-bootloader/
> 
> I'll test that solution. Thanks for the pointer!

Tested, works -- I took the 12.0-CURRENT boot files:

gpart bootcode -b pmbr ada0
gpart -p gptzfsboot -i 1 ada0
cp zfsloader /boot/zfsloader

Before: ca. 660 seconds to reboot, now 77 seconds to reboot.

Now, if someone could explain, why...

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Re: FreeBSD 10.3 slow boot on Supermicro X11SSW-F

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I installed FreeBSD 10.3 on brand new machine Supermicro X11SSW-F. It 
> sits on top of 4x 1TB Samsung SSDs on ZFS RAIDZ2.
> 
> The booting is painfully slow from BTX to menu to kernel loading.

I have the same problem on a Supermicro X11SSH-LN4F.

> Progress indicated by \ | / - characters is changing by speed of 1 
> character per 2 seconds.
> The whole boot process takes about 10 minutes.
> 
> I found this blog post solving the same problem
> http://smyck.net/2016/06/15/freebsd-slow-zfs-bootloader/

I'll test that solution. Thanks for the pointer!

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Re: freebsd-update fetch/install for 10.2-RELEASE => different kernel/userland patch versions?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I currently issued 
> 
> freebsd-update fetch
> freebsd-update install
> 
> and after reboot have
> 
> freebsd-version -ku
> 10.2-RELEASE-p18
> 10.2-RELEASE-p19
> 
> Please note that kernel version is p18, userland p19.
> 
> Is this intended behavior or is something broken with freebsd-update?

This is the intended behaviour. p19 is a userland-only patch, see

https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-16:24.ntp.asc

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Re: WARNING ioctl sign-extension ioctl FFFFFFFF8004667e / CommVault

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> It seems this is a general problem, but mostly on the application
> side. See for example:
> 
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=147938
> 
> which shows that the application code uses the wrong type
> for an ioctl argument.

See

/usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:sys_ioctl()

where the wrong parameter is detected and the error sent to the
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Re: WARNING ioctl sign-extension ioctl FFFFFFFF8004667e / CommVault

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I get many CommVault-related warnings  (ioctl sign-extension
> ioctl) similar to those discussed for ages related to Python (June
> 2010 and before).

It seems this is a general problem, but mostly on the application
side. See for example:

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=147938

which shows that the application code uses the wrong type
for an ioctl argument.

> This only happens on amd64, not on the previously used i386 system,
> so might be 32/64bit related.

It looks like it's an application error. So maybe upstream (CommVault)
can comment on this ?

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Re: VLAN problem on some em(4) cards

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> while replacing a switch I ran into a problem with using 802.1q VLANs
> (vlan(4)) on a em(4) card - that is, I could not get the card to work
> with VLANs.

Have you tried fiddeling with the flags ?

options=4219b

examples:

ifconfig em0 -rxcsum -txcsum -wol
ifconfig em0 -vlanmtu -vlanhwtag

I have a 10.3-i386 box with 82574L and VLANs on that interface,
works fine (but I'm not using it for production, only as a test box).

Can you show

sysctl -a | grep dev.em | grep desc

I have:

dev.em.5.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Legacy Network Connection 1.1.0
dev.em.4.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Legacy Network Connection 1.1.0
dev.em.3.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k
dev.em.2.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k
dev.em.1.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k
dev.em.0.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k

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Re: Skylake Loader Performance 10.3-BETA3

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > Its worth noting you can also select BEs from beastie now as well.

> While this is a great feature I still find it strange that I have to
> install a 3rd party app (beadm) to get FreeBSD core functionality (BE) .
> Why not make it part of the OS?

Similar to pkg: Because the update-cycles for ports are faster
than for the base system.

And because the packaged base system is 'just around the corner',
it's supposed to come with 11.0 RELEASE, the lines between the two
parts will blurr, soon.

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status of freebsd-update mirrors ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

I recently tried to get some host updated using freebsd-update:

It failed on all sites with this:

# freebsd-update -r 10.2-RELEASE upgrade -s update4.freebsd.org
Looking up update4.freebsd.org mirrors... none found.
Fetching metadata signature for 10.1-RELEASE from update4.freebsd.org... failed.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.

except update5, which returned:

# freebsd-update -r 10.2-RELEASE upgrade -s update5.freebsd.org
Looking up update5.freebsd.org mirrors... none found.
Fetching metadata signature for 10.1-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... fetch: 
http://update5.freebsd.org/10.1-RELEASE/i386/t/ee71a3e074f038728efd7aa6ef7a0777e8c7c64ea01aa684f6fc181e544c6a41:
 Permission denied
failed.

always failing on the same file.

Any ideas on what's up ?

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Re: ipfw dscp cs4

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Not sure if this is the right place to enquire about this. If not please 
> direct me to the right place and accept my apologies.

It's a good place, if you run a stable version. What version of FreeBSD
do you run ?

And it's an interesting bug-report. Other places where it might
be useful are:

1) https://bugs.freebsd.org/
   (preferred)
2) freebsd-i...@freebsd.org

Would you mind filling in a bug report ?

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Re: net-im/skype4 under FreeBSD 10.3

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> But isn't 'CentOS 6.7' is already in ports tree?

It's in HEAD ports tree, but probably not in the quarterly. Can this be the
cause ?

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Re: MRSAS driver/LSI MegaRaid 92XX-93XX admin question: When one of the Raid's physical drives break, how is it reported in the logs?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> So my final question then is, how do you extract it into userland (in 
> the absence of an "mfiutil" as the MFI driver has)?

They renamed the util to StorCLI, it looks very similar to the old tw_cli,
and can be downloaded from

http://www.avagotech.com/products/server-storage/raid-controllers/megaraid-sas-9266-8i#downloads

as MR_SAS_StorCLI_1-16-06.zip, unpacking it yields storcli_all_os.zip,
unpacking that yields storcli_all_os/FreeBSD/storcli64.tar,
and finally unpacking that gives

$ file storcli64
storcli64: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically 
linked, for FreeBSD 7.4, stripped

which at least looks like it might work with the MRSAS controller.

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Re: Is UEFI required for ZFS?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I have a new Asus H170-Plus-D3 motherboard that will be used for a DOM0 Xen 
> Server.  It uses an Intel i5-6300 processor and a Samsung 840 EVO SSD.  I 
> would like to use ZFS on this new installation.  The Xen Kernel does not have 
> UEFI support at this time, so I installed FreeBSD CURRENT r295345 in 'legacy 
> mode'. It takes about 7 minutes to go from the first '|' character to 
> getting the 'beastie' menu.

This is strange. To answer the question in the subject, no, UEFI is
not required for ZFS.

> How can I dig deeper into my problem?  I would like to use ZFS with my Xen 
> Server.

Can you put a dmesg.boot from the server ? An pciconf -lvb ?

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Re: Periodic jobs triggering panics in 10.1 and 10.2

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> I could be recalling wrongly but I'm pretty sure a number of emails have
> been seen on @freebsd.org lists that say, "don't use zfs on single
> spindle machines"

We do ZFS on single-spindle/SSD devices regularly. No problems
as of now.

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Re: LACP with 3 interfaces.

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> We have a NFS server witch has three network ports.
> 
> We have bonded these interfaces as a lagg interface, but when we use the
> server it looks like only two interfaces are used.
> 
> This is our rc.conf file
> 
> ifconfig_igb0="up"
> ifconfig_igb1="up"
> ifconfig_igb2="up"
> cloned_interfaces="lagg0"
> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto lacp laggport igb0 laggport igb1 laggport igb2
> 192.168.100.222 netmask 255.255.255.0"

This says you are lagg'in igb0 to igb2.

> ifconfig tell us the following.
[...]
> laggport: igb1 flags=1c
> laggport: igb2 flags=1c
> laggport: igb3 flags=1c

This says it's lagg'in igb1 to igb3 ? Why the difference ?

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Re: LACP with 3 interfaces.

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > Is there something we can do to make sure lagg0 uses all the interfaces.
> 
> Nope.  LACP doesn't actively load balance its interfaces.

On FreeBSD 11

man lagg(4)

says:

The driver currently supports the aggregation protocols failover (the
default), lacp, loadbalance, roundrobin, broadcast, and none.

with

 roundrobin   Distributes outgoing traffic using a round-robin scheduler
  through all active ports and accepts incoming traffic from
  any active port.

If the three ports are needed for sending, shouldn't this work ?

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Re: when the sshd hits the fan

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> > I'm trying to understand why the sshd still starts after local daemons,
> > out-of-the-box, and what it takes to make this extremely vital service
> > to start before non-system (local) ones. I bet I'm not the first one to
> > ask, so why isn't this already done ? Seems quite easy for me.
> 
> The fix is quite simple:  Add
> 
> # BEFORE: mail
> 
> to /etc/rc.d/sshd
> 
> I tried to submit a PR on that about a year ago, but it never
> seemed to make it into the PR system.

It did enter the PR system.

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190447

I'll have a look at it, it annoys me as well 8-}

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Re: freebsd-update to 10.2-RELEASE broken ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

 Or run tcpdump for port 53;   also curious if it might be an IPv4
 vs. IPv6 issue?

I did run tcpdump on port 53 on both the client and the
dns server for this, everything looked normal. It was no IPv6 issue.

I'll retest with more detail this evening.

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Re: freebsd-update to 10.2-RELEASE broken ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

[bob wrote]
 [ck wrote]
  I have been trying to update several of my FreeBSD 10.1 amd64
  VM to 10.2-RELEASE with freebsd-update and have been failing with
  an incorrect hash error.

 FWIW I had the same issue yesterday on a couple of systems.
 Repeating freebsd-update worked after two or three goes.

I've seen the same problem on several hosts and discussed it by mail
with gjb@.

We assumed that I have a DNS problem because of this line:

 Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found.

This happens with this query inside the freebsd-update script, at
line 950:

host -t srv _http._tcp.update.FreeBSD.org

If you prime your DNS cache with manual queries, then freebsd-update
will sometimes find the hosts and will report that it found some hosts.

But, I just tried to reproduce this and failed, the problem persists.

So, yes, it looks like a real issue.

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Re: freebsd-update to 10.2-RELEASE broken ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

 It could be the classic fall back to TCP on SRV records problem on
 your upstream DNS forwarder if you're using one:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2012-May/074801.html

If I query that same DNS resolver using the line from
the script, it works every time. It's a 10.1p16 host with
a very recent ports build, and directly connected (no NAT, no
fw etc).

If that would be the problem, how could I diagnose it in depth ?

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Re: HEADS-UP: PCI ID driver conflict with ahd(4) and pms(4)

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

 prior to the releng/10.2 branch), please exercise caution when upgrading
 to the latest stable/10 or releng/10.2 if your storage controller
 matches any of the following PCI device IDs:

Which field of pciconf -lvb or sysctl output needs to be compared ?

Is it the device= field ?

dev.atapci.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x1002 device=0x439c subvendor=0x15d9 
subdevice=0xa711 class=0x01018a

  0x0100
  0x0101
  0x0102
[...]

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