Re: 4.9-STABLE -- 4.8-RELEASE downgrade. Pitfalls?

2004-06-08 Thread Parv
wrote Chuck Swiger thusly...

 Parv wrote:
 [ ... ]
 Port making will fail if you keep ports trees updated at least due
 to use of new make(1) syntax introduced, in 4.9, in a port's
 Makefile.  The problem i noticed was related to use of parenthesis
 in .if ... .endif structure.

 Thanks for the response, Parv, but ugh!  I cringe at the notion that
 continually tweaking make and the port Makefiles causes problems
 with backwards compatibility to a still-supported FreeBSD release.

That looks like the message that i sent to one of the FreeBSD lists.
After searching PR database, it seems somebody else found the exact
reason...

  http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/60288


I think life w/ NetBSD would not be so bad via its FreeBSD ports
equivalent pkgsrc.  One other known benefit, via pkgviews, is that
multiple versions of a particular an be simultaneously installed/used
at the cost of use of many symbolic links.

Here are some things on pkgsrc ...

  http://www.NetBSD.org/~jlam/pkgsrcCon/presentations.html
  http://www.NetBSD.org/Documentation/pkgsrc/
  http://www.NetBSD.org/Documentation/software/packages.html
  http://www.NetBSD.org/Documentation/software/pkgviews.pdf


The last time i read papers/slides listed on pkgsrcCon, ugly
symbolic links would have been the only problem for me after the
problem of potentially missing ported software that i currently use on
FreeBSD. (No, i have not checked the pkgsrc list).

Mind you that i have no experience of NetBSD or pkgsrc, so both may
have their own problems currently unknown to me.


  - Parv

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kern/53717: 4.8-RELEASE kernel panic (page fault)

2003-10-20 Thread Keith Lee
Anyone knows howt to solve this prob?

Keith.
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Re: Repeated panics with 4.8-RELEASE

2003-10-19 Thread Brian Clapper
On 20 October, 2003, at 00:40 (+0400)
Alex Povolotsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello!

 I'm experiencing repeated (1-4 times a week) non-reproductable panics on 
 4.8-RELEASE-p13. Actually, they have begun with 4.5-RELEASE, and I hoped that 
 upgrade helped me.

 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
 mp_lock = 0002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 0300
 fault virtual address   = 0x6c

Here's another possibility. A year ago, I saw similar behavior with a brand
new box on which I'd loaded 4.7-RELEASE. The problem was bad RAM, which
memtest86 (www.memtest86.com) confirmed for me. I replaced the memory, and
the problem hasn't recurred since.

- Brian Clapper, http://www.clapper.org/bmc/

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FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE 4.8-RELEASE 4-9-RC-2 4.9-RC2 4.9-RC3 floppy install problem.

2003-10-19 Thread Evgeny Larionov
I just try install some versions FreeBSD from floppy disks via FTP
(HTTP-proxy). During instalation system unsuccessfully trying download
necessary files from
ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snaphots/i386/release name
bacuase this directory (snapshots/i386) on primary and others
ftp sites is empty. After setting URL manualy in
ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386 system try download files
from
ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386
How must installed from floppy via ftp ??

/Evgeny Larionov


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Re: 4.8-RELEASE

2003-04-02 Thread Maxim M. Kazachek
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Bruce A. Mah wrote:

If memory serves me right, Georgi Hristov wrote:
 I just noticed that the 4.8-Release has populated
 the mirror servers around the world.

 I think this is the final, even though RE has not
 acknoledge it ... What are the chances of droping the
 tag, making some changes, and repopulating the FTP
 mirrors .. SLIM .. if there is any further issues with
 4.8-Release ...the problems with be noted in the
 Errata ... and patches would be release instead of
 making changes to the the one on the FTP server.

 I am not a FreeBSD guru, nor I am on the development
 team ... so this is just my assumpions ... that may
 happen to be correct. :)))

There's been no release announcement yet.  Until you see one, just
pretend that anything labeled 4.8-RELEASE doesn't exist.  It's that
simple, OK?  :-)

In an ideal world, the release engineering team could put the
releases, well, somewhere, they'd magically get pushed out
instantaneously to all of the mirror sites all around the world, and
be guaranteed to be correct.

In the real world, it takes a non-zero amount of time to get the data
to a reasonable subset of the mirrors.  Not all of the data is
available at the same time, and even if it were, it takes about a day
(at least) for most of the mirrors to get it, depending on what time
of the day and what day of the week we make the bits available.

There were (are?) two ongoing wrinkles in that the machine that was
holding disc1.iso (for the i386) went down for awhile yesterday, plus
we generally agreed that sending out a release announcement on 1 April
was a Bad Idea (TM).

Please be patient.

Bruce.
(RE team member, but speaking for myself)


Well, RELEASEing of software and POPULATEing (released) software onto
mirrors is different, I think :-). I'd rather vote for following order of
operations:
1.label RELEASE
2.announce RELEASE in CVS tree
3.build RELEASE
4.populate ISOs
5.announce RELEASE in binary distribution
6.announce RELEASE on web site (if we want to say that RELEASE is OUT when
binary distribution is available)

This will eleminate situation RELEASE is labeled but not
announced by RE. I think that people that don't track source tree can
wait for RELEASE (in binary distribution)... Please correct me if I'm
wrong...

P.S.If you see Rabbit label on cell with tiger - don't trust for
your eyes... :-)

   Sincerely, Maxim M. Kazachek
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Re: 4.8-RELEASE

2003-04-02 Thread Michael W . Lucas
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 11:08:08PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
 ...plus
 we generally agreed that sending out a release announcement on 1 April
 was a Bad Idea (TM).

Oh, come on!  That would have certainly fixed Slashdot once and for
all... :-)

==ml

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