Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:52:06PM -0800, Matthew Tippett wrote: > Hmm... No sure what happened there again. What I sent (pulled from my > "Sent" folder... > === > > Thanks for the comment Arnaud. For comparative benchmarking on > Phoronix.com , Michael invariable leaves

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM,   wrote: >> Thanks. >> >> My request for the person documenting the tunings also runs the benchmark to >> ensure expected behaviour. >> > Why should you have to tune anything ? Did you tune the Oracle

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:31:55 -0800 wrote: >Thanks for the comment Arnaud. For comparative benchmarking > on[1]Phoronix.com, Michael inva configuration 'in the way the > developers or production'. This is by rule. However, i poor > scores on be 'it should be tuned, is configur

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Hmm... No sure what happened there again. What I sent (pulled from my "Sent" folder... === Thanks for the comment Arnaud. For comparative benchmarking on Phoronix.com , Michael invariable leaves it in the default configuration 'in the way the developers or vendor wanted

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Thanks for the comment Arnaud. For comparative benchmarking on [1]Phoronix.com, Michael inva= riable leaves it in the default configuration 'in the way the developers or= vendor wanted it for production'. This is by rule. However, i= nvariable the community or vendor for platfor

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Hi, On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM, wrote: > Thanks. > > My request for the person documenting the tunings also runs the benchmark to > ensure expected behaviour. > Why should you have to tune anything ? Did you tune the Oracle Server install ? If not, you should not have to tune the FreeBSD i

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 23/12/2011 20:23, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: >> On 23/12/2011 02:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> There is a wiki page http://wiki.freebsd.org/SystemTuning which is >> currently more or less tuning(7) with some annotations, the idea being >> to

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > On 23/12/2011 02:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Jeremy Chadwick >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Hi, > >>

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/23/11 16:24, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:00:05AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: >> On Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:58:46 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Hi,

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:00:05AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:58:46 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > > > On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > while the discussion con

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:58:46 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > > On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > while the discussion continued here, some work started at some other place. Now... in case someon

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 23/12/2011 02:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >>> On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, while the discussion continued here, some work started at some oth

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >> On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> while the discussion continued here, some work started at some other place. >>> Now... in case someone here is will

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > while the discussion continued here, some work started at some other place. > > Now... in case someone here is willing to help instead of talking, feel > > free to go to h

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Hi, > > while the discussion continued here, some work started at some other place. > Now... in case someone here is willing to help instead of talking, feel free > to go to http://wiki.freebsd.org/BenchmarkAdvice and have a look what can be > imp

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Hi, while the discussion continued here, some work started at some other place. Now... in case someone here is willing to help instead of talking, feel free to go to http://wiki.freebsd.org/BenchmarkAdvice and have a look what can be improved. The page is far from perfect and needs some additio

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 03:29:25PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > This also interested me: > > * Linux system crashed > http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2011-11/msg8.html > > * OpenIndiana system crashed same way as Linux system > http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchiv

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Am 21.12.2011 06:22, schrieb Ian Smith: > I find the results on this page very strange, but perhaps indicative: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_kfreebsd_h210&num=1 > > Here we see scant difference in results between Debian running FreeBSD > 7.3 or 8.0 or Linux 2.6.3

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/20/2011 11:22 PM, Ian Smith wrote: [performance@ & current@ ccs trimmed, I'm not subscribed. Feel free ..] On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Samuel J. Greear wrote: > 2011/12/19 Lev Serebryakov [1]: > > Hello, Samuel. > > You wrote 15 ÿÿ 2011 ÿÿ., 16:32:47: > > > >> Other benchmark

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

[performance@ & current@ ccs trimmed, I'm not subscribed. Feel free ..] On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Samuel J. Greear wrote: > 2011/12/19 Lev Serebryakov : > > Hello, Samuel. > > You wrote 15 ÿÿ 2011 ÿÿ., 16:32:47: > > > >> Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Any version is fine that's PTS 3.0 or newer in terms of being compatible, since the test profiles are versioned separately and automatically fetched to match the result file. However, I'd recommended the newest (PTS 3.6) as it contains the best FreeBSD support at present in terms of hardware/so

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

The benchmarks themselves are versioned. So in general most of the av= ailable versions of PTS itself should be fine. PTS can be considered = an execution shell that doesn't affect the benchmark itself. Note th= at you'll download a pile of the benchmarks, build and install the

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Is there a specific version of the test suite that should be used, to compare against the published results? Adrian On 20 December 2011 17:18, Matthew Tippett wrote: > For such a system, the greatest immediate value would be to attempt to > reproduce the benchmarks in question. > > Install PTS

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

For such a system, the greatest immediate value would be to attempt to reproduce the benchmarks in question. Install PTS from www.phoronix-test-suite.com or freshports.org. Run the benchmark against those used in the article phoronix-test-suite benchmark 1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 You will be

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/21/11 00:29, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:54:23PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >> On 12/20/11 22:45, Samuel J. Greear wrote: >>> http://www.osnews.com/story/25334/DragonFly_BSD_MP_Performance_Significantly_Improved >>> >>> PostgreSQL tests, see the linked PDF for #'s on Fr

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Bottom post this time to follow Oliver :). On 12/20/2011 02:54 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/20/11 22:45, Samuel J. Greear wrote: http://www.osnews.com/story/25334/DragonFly_BSD_MP_Performance_Significantly_Improved PostgreSQL tests, see the linked PDF for #'s on FreeBSD, DragonFly, Linux and S

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:54:23PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 12/20/11 22:45, Samuel J. Greear wrote: > > http://www.osnews.com/story/25334/DragonFly_BSD_MP_Performance_Significantly_Improved > > > > PostgreSQL tests, see the linked PDF for #'s on FreeBSD, DragonFly, Linux > > and Solaris. Ste

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/20/11 22:45, Samuel J. Greear wrote: > http://www.osnews.com/story/25334/DragonFly_BSD_MP_Performance_Significantly_Improved > > PostgreSQL tests, see the linked PDF for #'s on FreeBSD, DragonFly, Linux > and Solaris. Steps to reproduce these benchmarks provided. > > Sam > > On Tue, Dec 20

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

http://www.osnews.com/story/25334/DragonFly_BSD_MP_Performance_Significantly_Improved PostgreSQL tests, see the linked PDF for #'s on FreeBSD, DragonFly, Linux and Solaris. Steps to reproduce these benchmarks provided. Sam On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > Interestingly,

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/20/11 21:20, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on > criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative > benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to > benchmark real world performance, equally,

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to benchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered any numbers in relation to, for

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:01 AM, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Alexander Yerenkow > wrote: >> FreeBSD currently have very obscure, closed community. To get in touch, you >> need to subscribe to several mail lists, constantly read them, I've just >> found recently (my s

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: >        Release engineering for FreeBSD produces SHA256 checksums for all > official releases. AFAIK though they're only in the announcement emails and > not stored anywhere else. >        I can't speak for OpenBSD's release process. > Tha

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> >> As long as I have reliable checksums that match the what the upstream source >> says is the real thing, it doesn't practically matter where I get my images >> from. > > Check

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > As long as I have reliable checksums that match the what the upstream source > says is the real thing, it doesn't practically matter where I get my images > from. Checksums compared to what? How would you know what the correct checksum

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Alexander Yerenkow wrote: > FreeBSD currently have very obscure, closed community. To get in touch, you > need to subscribe to several mail lists, constantly read them, I've just > found recently (my shame of course) in mail list that there is service ( > pub.allbs

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/19/11 13:21, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On 19 dec 2011, at 12:50, "Samuel J. Greear" wrote: > >> 2011/12/19 Lev Serebryakov : >>> Hello, Samuel. >>> You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: >>> Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are similarly flawed, _AL

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

IMHO, no offence, as always. As were told, Phoronix used "default" setup, not tuned. So? Is average user will tune it after setup? No, he'll get same defaults, and would expect same performance as in tests, and he probably get it. The problem of FreeBSD is not it's default settings, some kind of v

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 19 dec 2011, at 12:50, "Samuel J. Greear" wrote: > 2011/12/19 Lev Serebryakov : >> Hello, Samuel. >> You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: >> >>> Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are >>> similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time >>

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Samuel J. Greear wrote: > FreeBSD actually does _BETTER_ (subjectively) in this test than the > Linux system when you look at what is really going on. FreeBSD is > favoring writes, which is _GOOD_. FreeBSD does not need to be fixed, > the benchmarks need to be fixe

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011/12/19 Lev Serebryakov : > Hello, Samuel. > You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: > >> Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are >> similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time >> should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer further evaluating

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/19/11 09:27, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Samuel. > You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: > >> Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are >> similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time >> should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer furt

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Hello, Adrian. You wrote 16 декабря 2011 г., 20:43:27: > Guys/girls/fuzzy things - this is 2011; people look at shiny blog > sites with graphs rather than mailing lists. Sorry, we lost that > battle. :) My thoughts exactly. -- // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov ___

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Hello, Samuel. You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: > Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are > similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time > should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer further evaluating this > garbage. (Yes, I have been do

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Thanks. My request for the person documenting the tunings also runs = the benchmark to ensure expected behaviour. The installation, execut= ion and comparison against the benchmarks in the article is fairly simple.<= br> Note that some tuning may not be relevant or recommended (i

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Can someone please write up a nice, concise blog post somewhere outlining all of this? Extra bonus points if it's a blog that is picked up by blogs.freebsdish.org and/or some of the other BSD sites. Guys/girls/fuzzy things - this is 2011; people look at shiny blog sites with graphs rather than ma

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Hi, [resend on the ml, my bad] On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Attilio Rao wrote: > 2011/12/16 Arnaud Lacombe : >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann >> wrote: >>> Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: >>> >>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_ite

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Am 16.12.2011 08:06, schrieb O. Hartmann: > For the underlying OS, as far as I know, the compiler hasn't as much > impact as on userland software since autovectorization and other neat > things are not used during system build. > > From my experience using gcc 4.2 or 4.4/4.5 does not have an impac

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011/12/16 Arnaud Lacombe : > Hi, > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann > wrote: >> Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: >> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA >> > it might be worth highlighting that despite Oracle Linux 6.1 Server is > usin

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/16/11 07:44, Joe Holden wrote: > Arnaud Lacombe wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann >> wrote: >>> Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: >>> >>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA >>> >> it might be worth highlighting that

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Arnaud Lacombe wrote: Hi, On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA it might be worth highlighting that despite Oracle Linux 6.1 Server is using a kernel + compiler a

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Hi, On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA > it might be worth highlighting that despite Oracle Linux 6.1 Server is using a kernel + compiler almost 2 years old, i

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 15 Dec 2011 21:25, "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 15 December 2011 17:58, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> Since ZFS in Linux can only be achieved via FUSE (ad far as I know), it > >> is legitimate to compare ZFS and ext4. It would be much more co

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > On 15 December 2011 17:58, O. Hartmann wrote: >> Since ZFS in Linux can only be achieved via FUSE (ad far as I know), it >> is legitimate to compare ZFS and ext4. It would be much more competetive >> to compare Linux BTRFS and FreeBSD ZFS. >>

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 15 December 2011 17:58, O. Hartmann wrote: > Since ZFS in Linux can only be achieved via FUSE (ad far as I know), it > is legitimate to compare ZFS and ext4. It would be much more competetive > to compare Linux BTRFS and FreeBSD ZFS. > Er... does ext4 guarantee data integrity? You're not com

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:58 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > Am 12/15/11 14:51, schrieb Daniel Kalchev: >> >> On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Stefan Esser wrote: >> >>> Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: No, the same hardware was used for each OS. In terms of the software, the stoc

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Am 12/15/11 14:58, schrieb Daniel Kalchev: > > On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > […] >> That said: thrown out, data ignored, done. >> >> Now what? Where are we? We're right back where we were a day or two >> ago; meaning no closer to solving the dilemma reported by users a

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Am 12/15/11 14:51, schrieb Daniel Kalchev: > > On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Stefan Esser wrote: > >> Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: >>> No, the same hardware was used for each OS. >>> >>> In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was used. >> >> Just curious: W

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

15.12.2011 17:36, Michael Larabel пишет: On 12/15/2011 07:25 AM, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: No, the same hardware was used for each OS. In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was used. Just curious: Why did you choose ZFS on FreeB

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

15.12.2011 15:48, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: I'm getting to the point where I'm considering formulating a private mail to Jeff Roberson, requesting that he be aware of the discussion that's happening (not that he necessarily follow or read it), and that based on what I can tell we're at a roadblock -

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/15/2011 08:26 AM, Sergey Matveychuk wrote: 15.12.2011 17:36, Michael Larabel пишет: On 12/15/2011 07:25 AM, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: No, the same hardware was used for each OS. In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was u

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: […] > That said: thrown out, data ignored, done. > > Now what? Where are we? We're right back where we were a day or two > ago; meaning no closer to solving the dilemma reported by users and > SCHED_ULE. Heck, we're not even sure if there is

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: >> No, the same hardware was used for each OS. >> >> In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was used. > > Just curious: Why did you choose ZFS on FreeBSD, while UFS2 (with >

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 05:32:47AM -0700, Samuel J. Greear wrote: > > Well, the only way it's going to get fixed is if someone sits down, > > replicates it, and starts to document exactly what it is that these > > benchmarks are/aren't doing. > > > > I think you will find that investigation is lar

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: > No, the same hardware was used for each OS. > > In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was used. Just curious: Why did you choose ZFS on FreeBSD, while UFS2 (with journaling enabled) should be an obvious choice since it is mo

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/15/2011 07:25 AM, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: No, the same hardware was used for each OS. In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was used. Just curious: Why did you choose ZFS on FreeBSD, while UFS2 (with journaling enabled) s

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

> Well, the only way it's going to get fixed is if someone sits down, > replicates it, and starts to document exactly what it is that these > benchmarks are/aren't doing. > I think you will find that investigation is largely a waste of time, because not only are some of these benchmarks just downr

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 04:55:16AM -0600, Michael Larabel wrote: > On 12/15/2011 04:41 AM, Michael Ross wrote: > >Am 15.12.2011, 11:10 Uhr, schrieb Michael Larabel > >: > > > >>On 12/15/2011 02:48 AM, Michael Ross wrote: > > > >>>Anyway these tests were performed on different hardware, FWIW. > >>>A

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Hi, all, Am 15.12.2011 um 12:18 schrieb Michael Ross: > Following Steven Hartlands' suggestion, > from one of my machines: > > /usr/ports/sysutils/dmidecode/#sysctl -a | egrep "hw.vendor|hw.product" > > /usr/ports/sysutils/dmidecode/#dmidecode -t 2 > # dmidecode 2.11 > SMBIOS 2.6 present. > > H

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Am 15.12.2011, 11:55 Uhr, schrieb Michael Larabel : On 12/15/2011 04:41 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Am 15.12.2011, 11:10 Uhr, schrieb Michael Larabel : On 12/15/2011 02:48 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Anyway these tests were performed on different hardware, FWIW. And with different filesystems,

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/15/2011 02:48 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Am 15.12.2011, 08:32 Uhr, schrieb O. Hartmann : Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of the benchmark

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 12/15/2011 04:41 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Am 15.12.2011, 11:10 Uhr, schrieb Michael Larabel : On 12/15/2011 02:48 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Anyway these tests were performed on different hardware, FWIW. And with different filesystems, different compilers, different GUIs... No, the same

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Am 15.12.2011, 11:10 Uhr, schrieb Michael Larabel : On 12/15/2011 02:48 AM, Michael Ross wrote: Anyway these tests were performed on different hardware, FWIW. And with different filesystems, different compilers, different GUIs... No, the same hardware was used for each OS. The pictur

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Am 15.12.2011, 08:32 Uhr, schrieb O. Hartmann : Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of the benchmark. A difference of a factor 10 or 100 is simp

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

On 14 December 2011 23:32, O. Hartmann wrote: > Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA > > It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of > the benchmark. A difference of a factor 10 or 100 is

Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of the benchmark. A difference of a factor 10 or 100 is simply far beyond disapointing, it is more than inaccepta