How to update like Debian
hi, I think, I do not understand, how to update (security/bugfixes) my 8.2 machines :-) I searched a lot and tried, what I have found in the docs, but I had trouble ... What I have done (one thing was working, but didn't know, if it is correct): From the Docs: # /usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. Other docs: # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Tue Sep 13 12:54:18 CEST 2011 to Thu Sep 29 17:30:27 CEST 2011. Fetching 3 metadata patches.. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 3 metadata files... done. Fetching 3679 patches.10203040 (a lot of output) # portsnap extract pkg_add -r portmanager portmanager -u [...] my problem is especial, that portmanager asks me a lot, like Include support for X or opengl, LaTeX ... questions I don't want. My problem is now, that I have now a lot of programs installed, on a ISCSI target only machine. I want something like Debian with apt-get update apt-get upgrade So I'm sure that I have done something in a wrong way. I also know, that I can use /etc/make.conf: WITHOUT_X11=yes USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE=yes [...] but, is this needed to _keep_ a minimal system? cu denny___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to update like Debian
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Denny Schierz linuxm...@4lin.net wrote: I think, I do not understand, how to update (security/bugfixes) my 8.2 machines :-) I searched a lot and tried, what I have found in the docs, but I had trouble ... What I have done (one thing was working, but didn't know, if it is correct): Updating FreeBSD is done is two separate processes, which can be done independently of one another. There is a clear separation between the base FreeBSD OS and third-party apps installed on top. This is something that is missing in the land of the penguin, and tends to trip people up as they switch between FreeBSD and Linux (in either direction). To do a binary upgrade of the base OS, you use freebsd-update: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update update See the freebsd-update man page for more details and options. That updates only the base OS (stuff under / and /usr; it does not touch anything under /usr/local). There are several different ways to update your installed third-party software (stuff installed via either pkg_add or the ports tree), depending on whether or not you want to compile software. Since you want have a Debian-like experience, then you want to install via binary packages as much as possible. See the man page for pkg_add for information on doing the initial install of software, including remotely fetching software (this would be similar to apt-get install without any upgrade support). A nice tool for handling upgrades of binary packages, using only binary packages, is pkg_upgrade. This is part of the bsdadminscripts package, so you'll need to install that first. Using pkg_add and pkg_upgrade, you do not even need to install the ports tree (and can even rm -rf /usr/ports/*). That's about as close to a Debian-like experience as you'll get. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to update like Debian
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Denny Schierz linuxm...@4lin.net wrote: I think, I do not understand, how to update (security/bugfixes) my 8.2 machines :-) I searched a lot and tried, what I have found in the docs, but I had trouble ... What I have done (one thing was working, but didn't know, if it is correct): Updating FreeBSD is done is two separate processes, which can be done independently of one another. There is a clear separation between the base FreeBSD OS and third-party apps installed on top. This is something that is missing in the land of the penguin, and tends to trip people up as they switch between FreeBSD and Linux (in either direction). To do a binary upgrade of the base OS, you use freebsd-update: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update update See the freebsd-update man page for more details and options. That updates only the base OS (stuff under / and /usr; it does not touch anything under /usr/local). There are several different ways to update your installed third-party software (stuff installed via either pkg_add or the ports tree), depending on whether or not you want to compile software. Since you want have a Debian-like experience, then you want to install via binary packages as much as possible. See the man page for pkg_add for information on doing the initial install of software, including remotely fetching software (this would be similar to apt-get install without any upgrade support). Two other options to keep ports up to date are portupgrade in ports-mgmt/portupgrade and portmaster in ports-mgmt/portmaster . To see some real world example of using it check the man page for each and take a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING you will see some example of how to upgrade major port changes Check out the entry from 20110517 about upgrading to perl 5.14 and removing the older version and fixing all the depends. In the debian world there is no exact comparison for this , major changes like this could/would be done by the maintainers and pushed out as debs with some warnings. portmaster and portupgrade both do the same relative tasks, the best advice would be to try both and see which you like. Also stick to using one port management tool . If you want to manually upgrade try to do that, if you want a wrapper like portupgrade use portinstall / portupgrade . Mixing and matching ports management tools for me imho a bad idea for beginners. A nice tool for handling upgrades of binary packages, using only binary packages, is pkg_upgrade. This is part of the bsdadminscripts package, so you'll need to install that first. Using pkg_add and pkg_upgrade, you do not even need to install the ports tree (and can even rm -rf /usr/ports/*). That's about as close to a Debian-like experience as you'll get. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- mark saad | nones...@longcount.org ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to update like Debian
Am 29.09.2011 um 18:35 schrieb Freddie Cash: To do a binary upgrade of the base OS, you use freebsd-update: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update update That was the first, what I have found, but I get only errors: # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. There was also no solution for this problem. I think it has something to do with the release I run: 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 7 13:20:14 CEST 2011 and freebsd-updated wants to fetch GPG files, without success. cu denny___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to update like Debian
Hi, On 9/29/11 1:45 PM, Denny Schierz wrote: # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. There was also no solution for this problem. I think it has something to do with the release I run: 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 7 13:20:14 CEST 2011 This is indeed correct. freebsd-update(8) does not provide binary updates for the -STABLE branches (outside of -RC release candidates occasionally). Regards, Glen -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to update like Debian
On 29/09/2011 18:45, Denny Schierz wrote: There was also no solution for this problem. I think it has something to do with the release I run: 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 7 13:20:14 CEST 2011 8.2-STABLE isn't a release. It's from a development branch. You need to download sources in some fashion and rebuild the system yourself if you're going to track STABLE. There are numerous ways of pulling down the FreeBSD sources, well documented in the Handbook. The Handbook also covers building and updating your system by compiling those sources. The Handbook is your friend. If you want a more Debian-like experience, then you need to be running an actual released version of the OS. Releases are called things like 8.2-RELEASE-p2 In general, if it doesn't have 'RELEASE' in the name then it isn't one, and usually it won't be supported through freebsd-update(8). (Exceptions are -BETAx and -RCx (release candidate) versions generated for testing by freebsd-update users during the release process, but those only have a very limited lifespan.) Unfortunately to get from -STABLE to -RELEASE and to have that work with freebsd-update(8), you will basically have to reinstall your system from install media downloaded from one of the FreeBSD FTP sites. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to update like Debian
hi, Am 29.09.2011 um 21:06 schrieb Matthew Seaman: Releases are called things like 8.2-RELEASE-p2 In general, if it doesn't have 'RELEASE' in the name then it isn't one, and usually it Ah, ok, it's getting more clearly. We have some jbods connected on a LSI 9200-8e which uses the mps driver and this driver isn't in the RELEASE version, only in STABLE ... that could be the problem. Thanks cu denny___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
