On 11/04/2012 06:19 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote:
There's an existing checkbox to disable it. There was substantial
consensus for 9.0 that SUJ was something we wanted
Nice to hear. I assume you mean check box during install
process? Not mentioned in install guide in handbook.
So, after I accept
On 11/3/2012 1:31, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
Currently when you try to take a snapshot, the kernel checks whether SUJ
is enabled on specified mount-point, and if yes it returns EOPNOTSUPP.
See this commit (MFCed as r230725):
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionamp;revision=230250
Ahhh
Hi all.
The point is:
There is completely no way to take a snapshot of SU+J partition
unless modify one's kernel.
Whether some issue still exist or not,
how about enabling snapshoting SU+J partition
through sysctl variable?
Would you mind to see patch attached?
1. Taking a snapshot of
On 11/04/2012 01:13 PM, HATANO Tomomi wrote:
Hi all.
The point is:
There is completely no way to take a snapshot of SU+J partition
unless modify one's kernel.
Whether some issue still exist or not,
how about enabling snapshoting SU+J partition
through sysctl variable?
Would
Hi Bas, thank you for your response.
When taking a snapshot of a SU+J filesystem we already get the nice not
supported error instead of getting into trouble.
It's not nice.
Hiding problem will never solve problem.
Currently we have no choice.
If we have a way to choose (e.g. through sysctl),
On 11/03/12 15:09, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
(Please keep me CC'd, as I'm not subscribed to -stable)
I've CC'd Nathan Whitehorn, who according to bsdinstall(8) is the
author (not sure if maintainer) of the code.
This default has already begun to bite users/SAs in the ass:
On 11/04/2012 03:43 PM, George Mitchell wrote:
On 11/03/12 15:09, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
(Please keep me CC'd, as I'm not subscribed to -stable)
I've CC'd Nathan Whitehorn, who according to bsdinstall(8) is the
author (not sure if maintainer) of the code.
This default has already begun to
Just rebooting to single user mode after the install and then tunefs -j
disable /dev/ada0p2 works for me.
After a reboot then I just removed /.sujournal
That crystillized to me as a correct way in this situation.
Just one fsck at the very beginning? Manual says about
some options available
On 11/04/2012 04:33 PM, Zoran Kolic wrote:
Just rebooting to single user mode after the install and then tunefs -j
disable /dev/ada0p2 works for me.
After a reboot then I just removed /.sujournal
That crystillized to me as a correct way in this situation.
Just one fsck at the very beginning?
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:00:27 +0100
Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote:
Though the last 10 years I have not had the inconvenience of having to
deal with long fsck' s or bgfsck' s on servers or workstation installs,
so I think this should not be default on new installs.
This is one man's
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:13:43 +0100
Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote:
I have submitted a PR with patch, see how it goes
Cheers
Why aren't we patching the dump utility to error/exit saying it's not
compatible with SUJ at this time? Update the descriptions in the installer, but
leave SUJ as
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote:
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:13:43 +0100
Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote:
I have submitted a PR with patch, see how it goes
Cheers
Why aren't we patching the dump utility to error/exit saying it's not
compatible with SUJ at this
On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 09:08 -0500, Mark Felder wrote:
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:00:27 +0100
Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote:
Though the last 10 years I have not had the inconvenience of having to
deal with long fsck' s or bgfsck' s on servers or workstation installs,
so I think this
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:18:55 -0400
Maxim Khitrov m...@mxcrypt.com wrote:
If I understood Mateusz correctly, r230725 already took care of the
panic, so there is no need to modify dump. That, however, still
doesn't solve all problems:
I still use 8 and plan to install branch 9 on new laptop
with ssd. If journaling comes as default on 9.1, I plan to
accept defaults on partitioning and use tunefs to remove it
with -h disable. Any idea what steps should I take for that?
As far as I read, journaling uses it's own partitions. Do
I
Zoran Kolic zkolic at sbb.rs writes:
I still use 8 and plan to install branch 9 on new laptop
with ssd. If journaling comes as default on 9.1, I plan to
accept defaults on partitioning and use tunefs to remove it
with -h disable. Any idea what steps should I take for that?
As far as I
(Please keep me CC'd, as I'm not subscribed to -stable)
I've CC'd Nathan Whitehorn, who according to bsdinstall(8) is the
author (not sure if maintainer) of the code.
This default has already begun to bite users/SAs in the ass:
There's an existing checkbox to disable it. There was substantial
consensus for 9.0 that SUJ was something we wanted -- I'd personally be
very hesitant to change the defaults without more input from FS people.
I think this discussion should be moved to freebsd-fs@ or
freebsd-current@ instead
There's an existing checkbox to disable it. There was substantial
consensus for 9.0 that SUJ was something we wanted
Nice to hear. I assume you mean check box during install
process? Not mentioned in install guide in handbook.
So, after I accept guided partitioning, I should go to
modify or
Hi
Why are journaled soft updates the default when installing a new system
from a 9.1-RC2 ISO?
I admit I did not pay too much attention when installing a new system
from an 9.1-RC2 ISO and found out when taking a snapshot with dump (dump
-0Lauf) to clone the system. Other systems (9-STABLE,
On 11/2/2012 23:47, Bas Smeelen wrote:
Hi
Why are journaled soft updates the default when installing a new system
from a 9.1-RC2 ISO?
I admit I did not pay too much attention when installing a new system
from an 9.1-RC2 ISO and found out when taking a snapshot with dump (dump
-0Lauf) to clone
On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 00:05 +0700, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/2/2012 23:47, Bas Smeelen wrote:
Hi
Why are journaled soft updates the default when installing a new system
from a 9.1-RC2 ISO?
Can SU+J be disabled for the 9.1-RELEASE or do you think this is not
going to be a problem
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Mike Jakubik
mike.jaku...@intertainservices.com wrote:
On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 00:05 +0700, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/2/2012 23:47, Bas Smeelen wrote:
Hi
Why are journaled soft updates the default when installing a new system
from a 9.1-RC2 ISO?
Can SU+J
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik wrote:
You can disable SU+J after installing, though it would be nice if the
installer gave you a choice.
This assumes that you know about this flaw, which most people do not.
I didn't until I discovered it by panic-ing a perfectly fine running
server.
On Fri, 2012-11-02 at 13:23 -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
I don't think SU+J should even be an option in the installer as long
as this bug persists. If you don't use dump, go ahead and enable
journaling after the installation, but it's not a decision that new
users should be asked to make. This
On 11/02/2012 06:27 PM, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik wrote:
You can disable SU+J after installing, though it would be nice if the
installer gave you a choice.
This assumes that you know about this flaw, which most people do not.
I didn't until I discovered it by
On 11/02/2012 06:27 PM, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik wrote:
You can disable SU+J after installing, though it would be nice if the
installer gave you a choice.
This assumes that you know about this flaw, which most people do not.
I didn't until I discovered it by
On 11/02/2012 07:08 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 06:27 PM, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik wrote:
You can disable SU+J after installing, though it would be nice if the
installer gave you a choice.
This assumes that you know about this flaw, which most people do not.
On 11/02/2012 07:17 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:08 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 06:27 PM, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik wrote:
You can disable SU+J after installing, though it would be nice if the
installer gave you a choice.
This assumes that you
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 12:27:18AM +0700, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik wrote:
You can disable SU+J after installing, though it would be nice if the
installer gave you a choice.
This assumes that you know about this flaw, which most people do not.
I didn't until I
On 11/02/2012 07:31 PM, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 12:27:18AM +0700, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik wrote:
You can disable SU+J after installing, though it would be nice if the
installer gave you a choice.
This assumes that you know about this flaw, which
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 07:30:04PM +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:17 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:08 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 06:27 PM, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik wrote:
You can disable SU+J after installing, though it would be
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 07:41:31PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 07:30:04PM +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:17 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:08 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 06:27 PM, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik
On 11/02/2012 07:41 PM, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 07:30:04PM +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:17 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:08 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 06:27 PM, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/3/2012 0:13, Mike Jakubik wrote:
You can disable
On 11/02/2012 07:59 PM, Gary Palmer wrote:
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 07:41:31PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 07:30:04PM +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:17 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:08 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 06:27 PM, Adam Strohl
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 02:59:29PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote:
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 07:41:31PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 07:30:04PM +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:17 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:08 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/02/2012
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/2/2012 23:47, Bas Smeelen wrote:
Hi
Why are journaled soft updates the default when installing a new system
from a 9.1-RC2 ISO?
I admit I did not pay too much attention when installing a new system
from an 9.1-RC2 ISO and found out when taking a
On 11/02/2012 10:42 PM, Daniel Eischen wrote:
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 11/2/2012 23:47, Bas Smeelen wrote:
Hi
Why are journaled soft updates the default when installing a new system
from a 9.1-RC2 ISO?
I admit I did not pay too much attention when installing a new system
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