WAS: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? New: port annoyance LibreOffice
On 06/10/12 17:43, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: On 06/10/12 09:54, Martin Sugioarto wrote: Am Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100 schrieb Chris Reescr...@freebsd.org: Er... people always test their commits. Sometimes edge cases will creep in, such as the libreoffice failure which was due to different configurations, but to suggest that the commit wasn't tested is quite frankly insulting-- it built on a clean system perfectly well. Hi, I don't mean to insult anyone. As I have already told, I am really thankful that people invest their precious time into updating the ports collection. Whatever clean system means. It is surely not the default case that someone has got a freshly installed set of ports. Among all the default problems with ports, libreoffice[1] adds to the group of annoyances[2] at the moment. I don't know when I have seen portmaster -ad run through successfully last time. I need more and more -x options to exclude ports which fail to build. [1] german/libreoffice and libreoffice fails all the time in (LOCALIZED_LANG is set to de): Module 'lingucomponent' delivered successfully. 12 files copied, 2 files unchanged --- Oh dear - something failed during the build - sorry ! For more help with debugging build errors, please see the section in: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development internal build errors: ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /usr/workdir-ports/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/vcl/prj it seems that the error is inside 'vcl', please re-run build inside this module to isolate the error and/or test your fix: --- Whatever this tries to tell me. I don't get it. This is a completely useless error message for me. Not even in german/libreoffice. i try to build the standard version and I receive the same error. I can fix this by doing what the buildsystem suggests, but then I have a stop in sfx2 and others and it ends up in some module called tail_, where the build never ends when performing the repair as suggested. I had once a box running all the night looping building in this folder. [2] The default annoyances are for example: - After updating perl, php or whatever, it makes sense to enforce updating the modules that belong to these ports. I've seen 100x the same message that p5-XML-Parser does not work and know what it means, but this should be resolved by the port system. I mean, when you update perl, the perl modules won't work anymore. This is totally clear and it makes sense to update them first before going on. I can confirm that. I fixed that for me by portmaster p5- in case p5-SAX-XXX failed. - When specifying WITHOUT_X11 the ports should respect this and not try to pull in the X11 variants of ports. I regularly see some ports pulling ImageMagick instead of the already installed ImageMagick-nox11. I still do not fully understand what is going on with WITHOUT_GNOME, but I'll try to figure it out later. But I am quite sure that some ports pull in unneeded Gnome dependencies. - Ports are being marked as interactive and stop the update process. The idea behind portmaster was (earlier) to avoid interactive building of ports and ask all the needed questions, before the builds start. I mean, earlier, I could get out and enjoy some coffee outdoors, now I have to sit at the keyboard. This is unacceptable! ;) portmaster does even more damage. Sometimed a port reels in some newly updates, a port gets deleted. if on of the to be updated prerquisits fail, the port in question isn't there anymore. portmaster fails quite often in oberwriting remnant files. If a port gets corrupted by accident, like graphics/netpbm, One need to delete all binaries manually from /usr/local/bin, otherwise the installation fails. Somehow I wish to have a brute force knob to overwrite everything in a brutal way. - It would be nice to have a mechanism that tells you that your perl, mysql or whatever is not the default version anymore and you should consider updating to the default (and recommended) port. Martin From /etc/defaults/periodic.conf: # 400.status-pkg weekly_status_pkg_enable=YES# Find out-of-date pkgs pkg_version=pkg_version # Use this program pkg_version_index=/usr/ports/INDEX-9 # Use this index file There's an override script in ports-mgmt/portupgrade that uses it's database, also. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: WAS: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? New: port annoyance LibreOffice
On 10 June 2012 18:10, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: On 06/10/12 17:43, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: On 06/10/12 09:54, Martin Sugioarto wrote: Am Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100 schrieb Chris Reescr...@freebsd.org: Er... people always test their commits. Sometimes edge cases will creep in, such as the libreoffice failure which was due to different configurations, but to suggest that the commit wasn't tested is quite frankly insulting-- it built on a clean system perfectly well. Hi, I don't mean to insult anyone. As I have already told, I am really thankful that people invest their precious time into updating the ports collection. Whatever clean system means. It is surely not the default case that someone has got a freshly installed set of ports. Among all the default problems with ports, libreoffice[1] adds to the group of annoyances[2] at the moment. I don't know when I have seen portmaster -ad run through successfully last time. I need more and more -x options to exclude ports which fail to build. [1] german/libreoffice and libreoffice fails all the time in (LOCALIZED_LANG is set to de): Module 'lingucomponent' delivered successfully. 12 files copied, 2 files unchanged --- Oh dear - something failed during the build - sorry ! For more help with debugging build errors, please see the section in: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development internal build errors: ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /usr/workdir-ports/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/vcl/prj it seems that the error is inside 'vcl', please re-run build inside this module to isolate the error and/or test your fix: --- Whatever this tries to tell me. I don't get it. This is a completely useless error message for me. Not even in german/libreoffice. i try to build the standard version and I receive the same error. I can fix this by doing what the buildsystem suggests, but then I have a stop in sfx2 and others and it ends up in some module called tail_, where the build never ends when performing the repair as suggested. I had once a box running all the night looping building in this folder. [2] The default annoyances are for example: - After updating perl, php or whatever, it makes sense to enforce updating the modules that belong to these ports. I've seen 100x the same message that p5-XML-Parser does not work and know what it means, but this should be resolved by the port system. I mean, when you update perl, the perl modules won't work anymore. This is totally clear and it makes sense to update them first before going on. I can confirm that. I fixed that for me by portmaster p5- in case p5-SAX-XXX failed. There's an UPDATING message written for that very purpose. - When specifying WITHOUT_X11 the ports should respect this and not try to pull in the X11 variants of ports. I regularly see some ports pulling ImageMagick instead of the already installed ImageMagick-nox11. I still do not fully understand what is going on with WITHOUT_GNOME, but I'll try to figure it out later. But I am quite sure that some ports pull in unneeded Gnome dependencies. - Ports are being marked as interactive and stop the update process. The idea behind portmaster was (earlier) to avoid interactive building of ports and ask all the needed questions, before the builds start. I mean, earlier, I could get out and enjoy some coffee outdoors, now I have to sit at the keyboard. This is unacceptable! ;) portmaster does even more damage. Sometimed a port reels in some newly updates, a port gets deleted. if on of the to be updated prerquisits fail, the port in question isn't there anymore. portmaster fails quite often in oberwriting remnant files. If a port gets corrupted by accident, like graphics/netpbm, One need to delete all binaries manually from /usr/local/bin, otherwise the installation fails. Somehow I wish to have a brute force knob to overwrite everything in a brutal way. FORCE_PKG_REGISTER. - It would be nice to have a mechanism that tells you that your perl, mysql or whatever is not the default version anymore and you should consider updating to the default (and recommended) port. Martin From /etc/defaults/periodic.conf: # 400.status-pkg weekly_status_pkg_enable=YES # Find out-of-date pkgs pkg_version=pkg_version # Use this program pkg_version_index=/usr/ports/INDEX-9 # Use this index file There's an override script in ports-mgmt/portupgrade that uses it's database, also. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send
Re: WAS: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? New: port annoyance LibreOffice
On 06/10/12 19:20, Chris Rees wrote: On 10 June 2012 18:10, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: On 06/10/12 17:43, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: On 06/10/12 09:54, Martin Sugioarto wrote: Am Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100 schrieb Chris Reescr...@freebsd.org: Er... people always test their commits. Sometimes edge cases will creep in, such as the libreoffice failure which was due to different configurations, but to suggest that the commit wasn't tested is quite frankly insulting-- it built on a clean system perfectly well. Hi, I don't mean to insult anyone. As I have already told, I am really thankful that people invest their precious time into updating the ports collection. Whatever clean system means. It is surely not the default case that someone has got a freshly installed set of ports. Among all the default problems with ports, libreoffice[1] adds to the group of annoyances[2] at the moment. I don't know when I have seen portmaster -ad run through successfully last time. I need more and more -x options to exclude ports which fail to build. [1] german/libreoffice and libreoffice fails all the time in (LOCALIZED_LANG is set to de): Module 'lingucomponent' delivered successfully. 12 files copied, 2 files unchanged --- Oh dear - something failed during the build - sorry ! For more help with debugging build errors, please see the section in: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development internal build errors: ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /usr/workdir-ports/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/work/libreoffice-core-3.5.2.2/vcl/prj it seems that the error is inside 'vcl', please re-run build inside this module to isolate the error and/or test your fix: --- Whatever this tries to tell me. I don't get it. This is a completely useless error message for me. Not even in german/libreoffice. i try to build the standard version and I receive the same error. I can fix this by doing what the buildsystem suggests, but then I have a stop in sfx2 and others and it ends up in some module called tail_, where the build never ends when performing the repair as suggested. I had once a box running all the night looping building in this folder. [2] The default annoyances are for example: - After updating perl, php or whatever, it makes sense to enforce updating the modules that belong to these ports. I've seen 100x the same message that p5-XML-Parser does not work and know what it means, but this should be resolved by the port system. I mean, when you update perl, the perl modules won't work anymore. This is totally clear and it makes sense to update them first before going on. I can confirm that. I fixed that for me by portmaster p5- in case p5-SAX-XXX failed. There's an UPDATING message written for that very purpose. And even WITH this message written in /usr/ports/UPDATING and follwoing those instrauctions, I have had the very same problem as for years now with this port. The problem is, if you'd like to do an automated or unattended update of the ports, you stumble very quickly in such a kind of show stopper. If you do not update on a regular basis, those problems develop in very serious problems. By the way, the reason why I update also the ports on a regular basis IS because of 100% sure problems if I wait for weeks or months. - When specifying WITHOUT_X11 the ports should respect this and not try to pull in the X11 variants of ports. I regularly see some ports pulling ImageMagick instead of the already installed ImageMagick-nox11. I still do not fully understand what is going on with WITHOUT_GNOME, but I'll try to figure it out later. But I am quite sure that some ports pull in unneeded Gnome dependencies. - Ports are being marked as interactive and stop the update process. The idea behind portmaster was (earlier) to avoid interactive building of ports and ask all the needed questions, before the builds start. I mean, earlier, I could get out and enjoy some coffee outdoors, now I have to sit at the keyboard. This is unacceptable! ;) portmaster does even more damage. Sometimed a port reels in some newly updates, a port gets deleted. if on of the to be updated prerquisits fail, the port in question isn't there anymore. portmaster fails quite often in oberwriting remnant files. If a port gets corrupted by accident, like graphics/netpbm, One need to delete all binaries manually from /usr/local/bin, otherwise the installation fails. Somehow I wish to have a brute force knob to overwrite everything in a brutal way. FORCE_PKG_REGISTER. Enabled by default in /etc/make.conf in my configuration. And the problem still persists ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
WAS: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? New: port annoyance LibreOffice
O. Hartmann writes: Among all the default problems with ports, libreoffice[1] adds to the group of annoyances[2] at the moment. I don't know when I have seen portmaster -ad run through successfully last time. I need more and more -x options to exclude ports which fail to build. [1] german/libreoffice and libreoffice fails all the time in (LOCALIZED_LANG is set to de): There is a known problem with libreoffice and boost, specifically a conflict between the boost port and the internal version. There is a work-around; however, at the moment the libreoffice maintainer does not have the time to rectify matters. See the recent/ongoing thread in either ports@ or office@ for more information. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
