Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-22 Thread Pete French
Buggy compilers are indefensible, yes, but why try to apologise for it? I dont see it as a bug. Without an 'L' the right hand side of that expression is a 16 bit int. For which 65536 is out of range. If I wrote 'int y = 65535; long x = y;' then I would get the same result for the same reason.

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-22 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 12:26:03PM +, Pete French wrote: Buggy compilers are indefensible, yes, but why try to apologise for it? I dont see it as a bug. Without an 'L' the right hand side of that expression is a 16 bit int. For which 65536 is out of range. If I wrote 'int y = 65535;

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-22 Thread Pete French
The type of a decimal integer constant without any suffix is the first of 'int', 'long', 'long long' in which the constant can be represented. It is ? Well, you learn something new every day I guess! I stand corrected in that case. Appologies. (For C89 it was the first of 'int', 'long',

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-22 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:25:14 + Pete French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The type of a decimal integer constant without any suffix is the first of 'int', 'long', 'long long' in which the constant can be represented. It is ? Well, you learn something new every day I guess! I stand corrected

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-22 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 02:25:14PM +, Pete French wrote: The type of a decimal integer constant without any suffix is the first of 'int', 'long', 'long long' in which the constant can be represented. It is ? Well, you learn something new every day I guess! I stand corrected in that

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-21 Thread Pete French
I'd really like to see support for the AMD64 architecture become rock solid, too, because 64 bit Athlons are starting to sell at great prices. Sadly I went back to running i386 on my AMD64's - not because of problems with FreeBSD, but because of problems with ports. It seems that theres a lot

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-21 Thread Brett Glass
It's the C language. While it's claimed to be portable, it really doesn't address integer size and endianism well enough. Oddly enough, even FORTRAN did a better job. You could declare a variable to be INTEGER*4 and that would be that, regardless of architecture. Which ports were causing you

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-21 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Tue, 2004-Dec-21 11:17:22 +, Pete French wrote: I'd really like to see support for the AMD64 architecture become rock solid, too, because 64 bit Athlons are starting to sell at great prices. Sadly I went back to running i386 on my AMD64's - not because of problems with FreeBSD, but

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-21 Thread Pete French
It's the C language. While it's claimed to be portable, it really doesn't address integer size and endianism well enough. All the more reason to be careful you might have thought :-) Mind you, trying to explain to students why 'long x = 65535;' set x equal to -1 always made me feel like I was

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-21 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 07:08:50PM +, Pete French wrote: It's the C language. While it's claimed to be portable, it really doesn't address integer size and endianism well enough. All the more reason to be careful you might have thought :-) Mind you, trying to explain to students why

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-21 Thread Craig Boston
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 05:59:14AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: One problem is that Unix first became popular (outside academia) with the advent of the 32-bit workstations and then took off with the rise of Linux on 32-bit i386. Lots of Unix code has never seen an environment were sizeof(int)

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-19 Thread Mike Jakubik
there will be a 5.3.1-RELEASE. Would you please explain what are these ``glitches'' and ``performance issues''? Are they believed to have been fixed in recent -CURRENT? How about the problems the amd64 platform has with memory configurations above 4GB? These prevent a successful install

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-19 Thread Brett Glass
At 10:40 PM 12/18/2004, Xin LI wrote: Would you please explain what are these ``glitches'' and ``performance issues''? Are they believed to have been fixed in recent -CURRENT? 5.3 has been reported to be significantly slower on many machines -- something that we've seen in our own tests. Some

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-19 Thread Colin Percival
Brett Glass wrote: Would anyone else besides me like to see a 5.3.1 minor release sometime around, say, February? No, but quite a few people would like to see a 5.4 minor release sometime around, say, late February or early March. Colin Percival

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-19 Thread Brett Glass
At 06:14 PM 12/19/2004, Colin Percival wrote: No, but quite a few people would like to see a 5.4 minor release sometime around, say, late February or early March. That would work too. It's a slightly shorter than usual time between point releases, but then, a lot of progress is being made

Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-18 Thread Brett Glass
else besides me like to see a 5.3.1 minor release sometime around, say, February? --Brett Glass ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-18 Thread Andrew Thompson
(rather than 4.10 or 4.11) for production servers. Would anyone else besides me like to see a 5.3.1 minor release sometime around, say, February? Why not just track RELENG_5? It would give you the same thing. Andrew ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Will there be a 5.3.1?

2004-12-18 Thread Xin LI
(rather than 4.10 or 4.11) for production servers. RELENG_5_3 is considered ``errata branch'' so if there is some serious issues then some of us may request an errata candidate to re@ and there may be an ``errata advisory''. Generally speaking, I don't think there will be a 5.3.1-RELEASE. Would