Re: em driver testing

2006-11-08 Thread Mike Jakubik
On Tue, November 7, 2006 6:18 pm, Scott Long wrote: It's just unclear to me how you're associating bce problems with checksum offloading and IP fragmentation to em problems with design issues in the watchdog code. You are correct, the bce watchdog timeouts seem to be related to hw checksums,

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-08 Thread Nikolay Pavlov
On Monday, 6 November 2006 at 22:42:18 -0800, Jack Vogel wrote: On 11/6/06, Adrian Chadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiousity - why wasn't the offending MPSAFE related changes to em just reverted after discovering the em instability? The driver -was- stable a couple of months ago,

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-08 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 04:40:03PM +0200, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: Well i have 5.5 box with very similar symptomatic :) I do not see watchdog timeouts on it, but a lot of UP/DOWN events. Are you sure this is the same problem as what's being discussed here? If you revert to a previous kernel or em

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-08 Thread Scott Long
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 04:40:03PM +0200, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: Well i have 5.5 box with very similar symptomatic :) I do not see watchdog timeouts on it, but a lot of UP/DOWN events. Are you sure this is the same problem as what's being discussed here? If you revert

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-08 Thread Nikolay Pavlov
On Wednesday, 8 November 2006 at 7:41:02 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 04:40:03PM +0200, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: Well i have 5.5 box with very similar symptomatic :) I do not see watchdog timeouts on it, but a lot of UP/DOWN events. Are you sure this is the same

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-08 Thread Nikolay Pavlov
On Wednesday, 8 November 2006 at 9:26:26 -0700, Scott Long wrote: Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 04:40:03PM +0200, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: Well i have 5.5 box with very similar symptomatic :) I do not see watchdog timeouts on it, but a lot of UP/DOWN events. Are you sure

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-08 Thread Steven Hartland
Scott Long wrote: I don't doubt that there are users with other problems. We spent some time collecting as much user data as we could in order to find patterns and weed out the uncommon cases. But this timer/watchdog thing looks to be a strong candidate for being the root cause of many of the

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-08 Thread Scott Long
Steven Hartland wrote: Scott Long wrote: I don't doubt that there are users with other problems. We spent some time collecting as much user data as we could in order to find patterns and weed out the uncommon cases. But this timer/watchdog thing looks to be a strong candidate for being the

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-08 Thread Ivan Voras
Scott Long wrote: My personally opinion is that the changes needed are too risky to rush into 6.2 for all of the different drivers. For the vast majority of people, what is in 6.2 works quite well, and there is no need to introduce new bugs. We are pushing forward with if_em because the

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 04:14:40PM -0800, Jack Vogel wrote: Well, so run 6.2 BETA3 plus the patch I posted as Patrick mentioned and then report on that. You've got a lot of potential problem areas here, I have no experience with samba on FreeBSD. And that motherboard only has PCI as I recall,

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Clayton Milos
- From: Jack Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Clayton Milos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; ke han [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:14 AM Subject: Re: em driver testing Well, so run 6.2 BETA3 plus the patch I posted as Patrick mentioned and then report

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Jack Vogel
On 11/7/06, Clayton Milos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jack I patched the driver and re-compiled the kernel and userland. All appears well with the em driver now. No more errors on it. I am getting watchdog timeouts on the xl driver now though. It was happenning before at the same time as the

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Scott Long
, 2006 2:14 AM Subject: Re: em driver testing Well, so run 6.2 BETA3 plus the patch I posted as Patrick mentioned and then report on that. You've got a lot of potential problem areas here, I have no experience with samba on FreeBSD. And that motherboard only has PCI as I recall, yes? Still

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Mike Jakubik
Clayton Milos wrote: Hi Jack I patched the driver and re-compiled the kernel and userland. All appears well with the em driver now. No more errors on it. I am getting watchdog timeouts on the xl driver now though. It was happenning before at the same time as the em ones. Now I've passed a

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Jack Vogel
On 11/7/06, Mike Jakubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clayton Milos wrote: Hi Jack I patched the driver and re-compiled the kernel and userland. All appears well with the em driver now. No more errors on it. I am getting watchdog timeouts on the xl driver now though. It was happenning before

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Scott Long
Jack Vogel wrote: On 11/7/06, Clayton Milos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jack I patched the driver and re-compiled the kernel and userland. All appears well with the em driver now. No more errors on it. I am getting watchdog timeouts on the xl driver now though. It was happenning before at

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Scott Long
Mike Jakubik wrote: Clayton Milos wrote: Hi Jack I patched the driver and re-compiled the kernel and userland. All appears well with the em driver now. No more errors on it. I am getting watchdog timeouts on the xl driver now though. It was happenning before at the same time as the em

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Mike Jakubik
Scott Long wrote: Mike, If you have insight into the bce driver, I would highly appreciate if you would share it. Scott (the guy who fixed bce) I don't have any bce hardware myself, I'm just using the information from the list. I have some em and fxp hardware however that i can use to do

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Scott Long
Mike Jakubik wrote: Scott Long wrote: Mike, If you have insight into the bce driver, I would highly appreciate if you would share it. Scott (the guy who fixed bce) I don't have any bce hardware myself, I'm just using the information from the list. I have some em and fxp hardware however

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 04:52 PM 11/7/2006, Scott Long wrote: I think it's more that the if_em driver watchdog was insulating the if_xl driver. Once the if_em component was removed, the if_xl driver was the next in line to be a victim. So yes, like you say, all of the drivers need to be fixed. I wonder if

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-07 Thread Mike Jakubik
Jack, I have done some tests, here are my results. On 6.2-BETA3 i was able to get a timeout while compiling the kernel and ftping a large file from another server with the same card. On 6.2-STABLE cvsuped today i was not able to produce a timeout, i then applied your patch and the results

em driver testing

2006-11-06 Thread ke han
According to the 6.2-beta3 announcemetn, there are improvements to the em driver. The most important of the things that have been worked on is the driver for em(4). I have a Sun X4100 which uses Intel ethernet. I would like to install amd64 6.2beta3 on this server and put it through some

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-06 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, ke han wrote: According to the 6.2-beta3 announcemetn, there are improvements to the em driver. The most important of the things that have been worked on is the driver for em(4). I have a Sun X4100 which uses Intel ethernet. I would like to install amd64

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-06 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hello! On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 04:55:50AM +0800, ke han wrote: I have a Sun X4100 which uses Intel ethernet. I would like to install amd64 6.2beta3 on this server and put it through some tests. But I have no idea what tests to run or how to run them. Can someone provide some pointers? I

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-06 Thread Clayton Milos
Hi there I am having similar issues. Running 6.1-RELEASE. I'm using the box as a samba server with pure-ftpd on it too with 2.5T of raid storage in it. the box is running the generic MP kernel on a Tyan Thunder K7 with the latest bios v2.14 and dual AthlonMP's. ECC Reg ram that passed all

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-06 Thread Jack Vogel
Well, so run 6.2 BETA3 plus the patch I posted as Patrick mentioned and then report on that. You've got a lot of potential problem areas here, I have no experience with samba on FreeBSD. And that motherboard only has PCI as I recall, yes? Still, it should get rid of the watchdogs unless you have

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-06 Thread Adrian Chadd
Just out of curiousity - why wasn't the offending MPSAFE related changes to em just reverted after discovering the em instability? The driver -was- stable a couple of months ago, no? Adrian -- Adrian Chadd - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: em driver testing

2006-11-06 Thread Jack Vogel
On 11/6/06, Adrian Chadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiousity - why wasn't the offending MPSAFE related changes to em just reverted after discovering the em instability? The driver -was- stable a couple of months ago, no? Actually it was not. Some reports have cited problems back to