Re: i386 vs amd64?

2008-08-10 Thread Yoshiaki Kasahara
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:34:41 +0200, Milan Obuch [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Funny observation: r is on LEFT keyboard side, l is on RIGHT keyboard side. I for one have problem at times precisely for this reason, but I know this is an important step and one need to act with great care. I

Re: i386 vs amd64?

2008-08-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Eugene Kazarinov wrote: [...] # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' [...] Pls tell me what for I need 5 step?

Re: i386 vs amd64?

2008-08-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Ask Bjørn Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We got 4 new SuperMicro boxes[1] with Xeon 3320 processors. They'll be used as firewalls / very basic routers (our network on one side, the world via a /29 on the other side). We currently use Soekris and PC Engine boxes for this (with

Re: i386 vs amd64?

2008-08-08 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2008-Aug-08 14:36:42 +0200, Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, in amd64 mode there are twice as many CPU registers available, enabling better optimizations for the C compiler. Furthermore those registers are twice as long, which means that 64bit quantities can be handled with

Re: i386 vs amd64?

2008-08-07 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:58:06AM -0700, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: We got 4 new SuperMicro boxes[1] with Xeon 3320 processors. They'll be used as firewalls / very basic routers (our network on one side, the world via a /29 on the other side). We currently use Soekris and PC Engine boxes

Re: i386 vs amd64?

2008-08-07 Thread Milan Obuch
On Thursday 07 August 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:58:06AM -0700, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: [ snip ] But be aware that there still are some applications (ports) which don't behave correctly on amd64. So my recommendation is to build a test box that mimics your

Re: i386 vs amd64?

2008-08-07 Thread Eugene Kazarinov
Hello everybody. (sorry for my english) # For individuals wanting to upgrade their sources (even if only a # delta of a few days): # # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE'

Re: i386 vs amd64?

2008-08-07 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Aug 7, 2008, at 2:34 AM, Milan Obuch wrote: 5) Get familiar with mergemaster, specifically the side-by-side interactive diff feature. It looks scary the first time around, but once you learn that r applies the stuff you see on the right, and l applies the stuff you see on the left, you

Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

2005-07-30 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 11:52:30AM -0400 I heard the voice of Vivek Khera, and lo! it spake thus: The amd64 memory architecture is NUMA -- that is, depending on how your RAM is layed out, some of it is faster to access for each processor. Accessing RAM local to the other processor(s) is

Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

2005-07-27 Thread Martin
Björn König wrote: You might want to have a look at my private benchmarks too: http://www.alpha-tierchen.de/dateien/etc/benchmark.html Hmmm... your benchmarks show the same effect as I have on 5.4. But I'm impressed by the RELENG_6 results. I think I'm going to upgrade my system instantly.

Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

2005-07-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 07:57:06PM +0200, Martin wrote: Hi, I've tried two benchmarks to check the speed of my system on two FreeBSD architectures i386 and amd64. My results for amd64 (haven't tried i386): Hardware: Athlon64 3400+ (2.4 GHz, 400 MHz FSB) MSI Neo FSR (MSI-6702) 2x512 MB

Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

2005-07-27 Thread Björn König
Martin wrote: But I'm impressed by the RELENG_6 results. I think I'm going to upgrade my system instantly. Yes, the results are slightly better, even the support of amd64 appears to be much better, but I would be careful; it's easy to overrate benchmark results. There is a lot that you can

Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

2005-07-27 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jul 26, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Martin wrote: Please notice the memory speed penalties while the system is running on amd64 kernel. I would like to know what causes this kind of low performance when memory is being accessed. The amd64 memory architecture is NUMA -- that is, depending on how

Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

2005-07-27 Thread Charles Swiger
On Jul 27, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Vivek Khera wrote: The amd64 memory architecture is NUMA -- that is, depending on how your RAM is layed out, some of it is faster to access for each processor. Accessing RAM local to the other processor(s) is slower. There are many subtle issues relating to

Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

2005-07-27 Thread Bob Willcox
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 07:57:06PM +0200, Martin wrote: Hi, I've tried two benchmarks to check the speed of my system on two FreeBSD architectures i386 and amd64. I've never seen anyone posting this kind of benchmark, so here is what I found out: here the results of nbench:

i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

2005-07-26 Thread Martin
Hi, I've tried two benchmarks to check the speed of my system on two FreeBSD architectures i386 and amd64. I've never seen anyone posting this kind of benchmark, so here is what I found out: here the results of nbench: http://phpfi.com/71540 here is what openssl speed gives me:

Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

2005-07-26 Thread Björn König
You might want to have a look at my private benchmarks too: http://www.alpha-tierchen.de/dateien/etc/benchmark.html Björn ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any