Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

2018-12-04 Thread Nimrod Levy
Just to throw another datapoint out there, I've been running on my Asus prime b350+ ryzen 5 and I've been stable since the microcode updates over the summer. I believe I returned all the bios settings (cstates, memory timing, etc..) back to stock. I've had to shutdown and relocate (and reconfigure

ryzen issues?

2017-12-15 Thread Nimrod Levy
I've been having a problem with a recent computer build. I've got a Ryzen 5 1600 on an Asus Prime B350+ motherboard. When it runs, it runs well. I don't see things like programs crashing or anything like that. What I do see is the occasional (almost daily) system lockup. When it hangs, the con

Re: ryzen issues?

2017-12-15 Thread Nimrod Levy
of having a raspberry pi connected to the reset button. But that just treats the symptom without finding a cure and is potentially really bad for my filesystems. On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:38 PM Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 12/15/2017 7:42 AM, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > I've been having

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-17 Thread Nimrod Levy
I've been seeing similar issues on Ryzen and asked some questions, here https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2017-December/088121.html My previous queries didn't go anywhere. -- Nimrod On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM Mike Tancsa wrote: > With the Intel issues exposed in meltdown,

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-17 Thread Nimrod Levy
I'm running 11-STABLE from 12/9. amdtemp works for me. It also has the systl indicating that it it has the shared page fix. I'm pretty sure I've seen the lockups since then. I'll update to the latest STABLE and see what happens. One weird thing about my experience is that if I keep something r

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-17 Thread Nimrod Levy
That looks promising. I just found that seeing in the bios and disabled it. I'll see how it runs. Thanks On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 18:38 Don Lewis wrote: > On 17 Jan, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > I'm running 11-STABLE from 12/9. amdtemp works for me. It also has the > > sy

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Nimrod Levy
Looks like disabling the C- states in the bios didn't change anything. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:22 PM Nimrod Levy wrote: > That looks promising. I just found that seeing in the bios and disabled > it. I'll see how it runs. > > Thanks > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018,

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-19 Thread Nimrod Levy
2400. For me the hangs are infrequent. Its only been a day and a > >> half, so not sure if its gone or I have been "lucky"... Either ways, > >> this platform feels way too fragile to deploy on anything :( > >> > >> ---Mike > >> > >

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-21 Thread Nimrod Levy
almost 2 days uptime with a lower memory clock. still holding my breath, but this seems promising. On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:02 PM Nimrod Levy wrote: > I can try lowering my memory clock and see what happens. I'm a little > skeptical because I have been able to run memtest with no

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-24 Thread Nimrod Levy
Changing the memory speed from 2400 to 2133 in the BIOS has given me 4.5 days of uptime so far. The memory is supposed to be 2400. I'm still confused, but I'll accept the result On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:02 PM Nimrod Levy wrote: > I can try lowering my memory clock and see what

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-24 Thread Nimrod Levy
The RAM was detected by the MB as 2400. I didn't change it until I set it to the slower speed. On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:06 AM Mike Pumford wrote: > On 24/01/2018 11:55, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > Changing the memory speed from 2400 to 2133 in the BIOS has given me 4.5 > > d

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-24 Thread Nimrod Levy
18 at 7:28 AM Mike Pumford wrote: > On 24/01/2018 12:11, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > The RAM was detected by the MB as 2400. I didn't change it until I set > > it to the slower speed. > > > I guess the Intel motherboards I have are more conservative then. They > defaul

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (summary of 4 issues)

2018-01-24 Thread Nimrod Levy
I'm not sure this is characterized quite right. I've been seeing c) where the system freezes completely and seems to be related to idle/ low load, but the workaround that seems to be working around the issue is part of a) where I lowered the memory speed. On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:42 AM Mike Tan

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-27 Thread Nimrod Levy
ot;Peter Moody" wrote: > >> hm, so i've got nearly 3 days of uptime with smt disabled. >> unfortunately this means that my otherwise '12' cores is actually only >> '6'. I'm also getting occasional segfaults compiling go programs. >> >&

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-28 Thread Nimrod Levy
I have the Asus prime B350-plus https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/ On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 10:50 AM Pete French wrote: > >> I'm about ready to have a party. My Ryzen 5 1600 has been up for over 8 > >> days so far after changing the memory to a slower speed. System load > >

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

2018-01-30 Thread Nimrod Levy
That's really strange. I never saw those kinds of deadlocks, but I did notice that if I kept the cpu busy using distributed.net I could keep the full system lockups away for at least a week if not longer. Not to keep harping on it, but what worked for me was lowering the memory speed. I'm at 11 da

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

2018-02-09 Thread Nimrod Levy
Mine was running so well. I had almost 3 weeks of uptime before it locked up twice last night. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:24 PM Peter Moody wrote: > to close the loop on this thread (for me at least); I replaced the > asrock ab350 with an msi x370 and things now, just work (c). the msi > detec

Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ?

2018-02-23 Thread Nimrod Levy
Now that is a fascinating data point. My machine that I've been having issues with has been running a bhyve vm from the beginning. I never made the connection. I'll try throwing some network traffic at the VM and see if I can make it lock up. On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote:

Re: Ryzen lockup on bhyve was (Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ?)

2018-02-23 Thread Nimrod Levy
= 2 PNCounters= 0 > ivhd0: Extended features[31:0]:22294ada HATS = > 0x2 GATS = 0x0 GLXSup = 0x1 SmiFSup = 0x1 SmiFRC = 0x2 GAMSup = 0x1 > DualPortLogSup = 0x2 DualEventLogSup = 0x2 > ivhd0: Extended features[62:32]:f77ef Max PASID: 0x2f > DevTblSegSup = 0x3 MarcSup = 0x1 > ivhd0: supported p

Re: Ryzen lockup on bhyve was (Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ?)

2018-02-23 Thread Nimrod Levy
I'm not using any FreeBSD VMs, only on the bare metal host. The VM instance is CentOS. The network to the VM is a tap bridge. On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 2/23/2018 3:33 PM, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > After a couple of hours of running the iperf com

Re: Ryzen lockup on bhyve was (Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ?)

2018-03-17 Thread Nimrod Levy
Looks like I got almost 4 full weeks before it locked up this morning :( On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:33 PM Nimrod Levy wrote: > After a couple of hours of running the iperf commands you were testing > with, I'm unable to duplicate this so far. > > I'm running with Free

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

2018-04-20 Thread Nimrod Levy
I'm really glad to see that I'm not the only one still interested in this thread. I don't really have anything new to contribute. I've been getting about a week or so uptime out of my box. My habit has been to see if it hangs, then reboot and rebuild latest stable and reboot and run that for a whi

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

2018-04-20 Thread Nimrod Levy
20, 2018 at 7:55 AM Pete French wrote: > > > On 20/04/2018 12:48, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > I'm really glad to see that I'm not the only one still interested in > > this thread. I don't really have anything new to contribute. I've been > > getting about a

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

2018-04-22 Thread Nimrod Levy
And of course now that we say something about it, I get a lockup overnight... -- Nimrod On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:48 AM Nimrod Levy wrote: > I'm really glad to see that I'm not the only one still interested in this > thread. I don't really have anything new to contribu

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

2018-06-03 Thread Nimrod Levy
For my case, it's been a while since I fiddled with any thing. From memory, the last time I worked on this, I updated to the latest BIOS on the Asus prime b350+ leaving the settings we've talked about here at stock (c-states, memory clock, etc...), updated to 11-stable, and let things run for a whi

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

2018-06-13 Thread Nimrod Levy
Any idea when that microcode was published? I updated to the latest BIOS last time I saw a lockup and I've been stable for 30 days which I think is a new record for this system. I installed the port to update the microcode and it showed that I already had the latest version, so I assume it came wit

Re: Ryzen consensus

2018-07-22 Thread Nimrod Levy
I agree. My Ryzen 5 1600 has been doing well for a couple of months too. I did a bios update which I believe contained the microcode updates about a month before 11.2 was released. I had been running 11-STABLE at that time. I updated to 11.2-RELEASE and I'm currently up for 27 days. -- Nimrod On