Re: FreeBSD 12.2-BETA3 Now Available

2020-09-29 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 07:32:39PM +0300, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:

> My opinion is that , instead of specifying a fixed password in install
> .iso or .img files , ask these password(s) to installer during install .

The fixed password is so that you can access the system to install in the
first place. (My comment, for clarity, applies to the live environment you
get with the amd64 .iso installer, for example.)

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Re: FreeBSD 12.2-BETA3 Now Available

2020-09-29 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 6:35 PM Mason Loring Bliss 
wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 01:08:43AM +, Glen Barber wrote:
>
> > Note regarding arm SD card images: For convenience for those without
> > console access to the system, a freebsd user with a password of
> > freebsd is available by default for ssh(1) access.
>
> Vaguely related... Something I've been wondering recently is whether
> there'd be support for the idea of converting /etc/master.passwd,
> /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf, and /etc/ssh/sshd_config in install media to
> symlinks pointing into /tmp/bsdinstall_etc.
>
> As of today I use mount_unionfs to modify these so I can fire up sshd
> inside the installer image live environment, but it does seem like a missed
> opportunity to make sshd available usefully out of the box, especially
> since the bits are all there already - it's just not possible to make use
> of them without some trickery because of the immutable configs.
>
> --
> Mason Loring Bliss  ((   If I have not seen as far as others, it is because
>  ma...@blisses.org   ))   giants were standing on my shoulders. - Hal
> Abelson
>



My opinion is that , instead of specifying a fixed password in install .iso
or .img files ,
ask these password(s) to installer during install .
In that way , live images can be used any time safely  because password(s)
is(are) unknown beforehand and is(are) only valid upto end  of the current
session .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: FreeBSD 12.2-BETA3 Now Available

2020-09-29 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 01:08:43AM +, Glen Barber wrote:

> Note regarding arm SD card images: For convenience for those without
> console access to the system, a freebsd user with a password of
> freebsd is available by default for ssh(1) access.

Vaguely related... Something I've been wondering recently is whether
there'd be support for the idea of converting /etc/master.passwd,
/etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf, and /etc/ssh/sshd_config in install media to
symlinks pointing into /tmp/bsdinstall_etc.

As of today I use mount_unionfs to modify these so I can fire up sshd
inside the installer image live environment, but it does seem like a missed
opportunity to make sshd available usefully out of the box, especially
since the bits are all there already - it's just not possible to make use
of them without some trickery because of the immutable configs.

-- 
Mason Loring Bliss  ((   If I have not seen as far as others, it is because
 ma...@blisses.org   ))   giants were standing on my shoulders. - Hal Abelson


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