Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-24 Thread Paul Mather



> On Feb 23, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Chris  wrote:
> 
> On 2021-02-23 17:07, Brian W. wrote:
>> 12-stable is not what you're running if you got that error.
> # uname -apKU
> FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64 
> amd64 1201522 1201522
> Looks pretty STABLE to me.


It may be -STABLE but it apparently hasn't been updated in a while.  You're 
running FreeBSD version 1201522, which is some flavour of 12.1.  As Warner 
pointed out, FreeBSD 12.1 has reached EOL, and is no longer officially 
supported by ports.

By way of comparison, here is a 12-STABLE system I updated yesterday:

gromit ~% uname -a
FreeBSD gromit.dlib.vt.edu 12.2-STABLE FreeBSD 12.2-STABLE 
stable/12-n232755-dfb372f5d38c GENERIC  amd64
gromit ~% uname -U
1202505


If you want to continue to use ports on that system I suggest you do a source 
upgrade to at least 12.2-STABLE (or else install a 12.2-STABLE snapshot).

Cheers,

Paul.


> 
> --Chris
>> Run freebsd-update with appropriate args to get to a later release is the
>> easiest option.
>> Brian
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:04 PM Warner Losh  wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:
>>> > Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
>>> > but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
>>> >
>>> > OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
>>> > usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
>>> > away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
>>> > day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
>>> > So I
>>> > svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
>>> > followed by a
>>> > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
>>> > which returns
>>> > make
>>> > /!\ ERROR: /!\
>>> >
>>> > Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
>>> > are
>>> > guaranteed to build on this system. Please upgrade to a supported
>>> release.
>>> >
>>> > No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
>>> > ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
>>> >
>>> > *** Error code 1
>>> >
>>> > Stop.
>>> > Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still
>>> 12,
>>> > and it's on stable. So what gives?
>>> >
>>> 12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.
>>> Warner
>>> Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.
>>> >
>>> > --Chris
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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Chris

On 2021-02-23 19:30, Mark Millard via freebsd-stable wrote:

On 2021-Feb-23, at 18:08, Chris  wrote:


On 2021-02-23 17:42, Mark Millard wrote:

(Warner is only CC'd here.)
Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com wrote on
Wed Feb 24 01:04:13 UTC 2021 :

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:
> Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
> but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
>
> OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
> usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
> away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
> day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
> So I
> svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
> followed by a
> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
> which returns
> make
> /!\ ERROR: /!\
>
> Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
> are
> guaranteed to build on this syst
em. Please upgrade to a supported release.
>
> No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
> ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
>
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still 12,
> and it's on stable. So what gives?
>
12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.
From release/12.1.0/ :

"Tag releng/12.1@r354233 as release/12.1.0 (12.1-RELEASE)"
I think that implicit in Warner's response is that
versions of stable/12/ that are not after r354233 are
also EOL. One needs to have stable/12/ material from
after -r354233 in order for it to be supported.
He might even mean that stable/12/ material from before:
"Tag releng/12.2@r366954 as release/12.2.0 (12.2-RELEASE)"
would also be considered as not supported.
To be safe you should be using stable/12/ material from
on or after -r366954 in order to have a supported
context.
(I'm not sure if anything is explicit about the status
of stable/12/ material between releng/12.1@r354233
and releng/12.2@r366954 .)

A HUGE thanks for all of this, Mark. This is EXACTLY what I needed.

# uname -apKU
FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64 
amd64 1201522 1201522

which pretty well confirms what you deduced.
I'm still a bit confused. It seems to me that it didn't _used_
to be that way. But my brain isn't using ECC. So a couple of
bits may be flipped.


The implication of all of stable/12/ being supported
would be support of stable/12/ from on or after its
creation:

QUOTE
Revision 339434 - Directory Listing
Modified Fri Oct 19 00:09:24 2018 UTC (2 years, 4 months ago) by gjb
Copied from: head revision 339432
Copy head@r339432
 to stable/12 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle.

Additional post-branch commits will follow.
END QUOTE

Such does not seem likely to me. What would be the
point of dropping 12.0-RELEASE support and
12.1-RELEASE support if such stable/12/ history was
covered, some of that history being minor variations
on the 12.0-RELEASE or 12.1-RELEASE ?

Note:
Despite some claims in other messages, svn -r363918
is not 12.1-RELEASE ( not -r354233 ) and -r363918
is shown as (only) in stable/12/ by svn. Your
claim of 12-STABLE was correct, just not detailed
enough.

Thanks. I really appreciate your taking the time to
clear things up for me. It also seems clear that I've
somehow mixed the purpose of RELEASE vs STABLE. :-/

Thanks again, Mark!

--Chris



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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Feb-23, at 18:08, Chris  wrote:

> On 2021-02-23 17:42, Mark Millard wrote:
>> (Warner is only CC'd here.)
>> Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com wrote on
>> Wed Feb 24 01:04:13 UTC 2021 :
>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:
>>> > Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
>>> > but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
>>> >
>>> > OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
>>> > usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
>>> > away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
>>> > day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
>>> > So I
>>> > svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
>>> > followed by a
>>> > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
>>> > which returns
>>> > make
>>> > /!\ ERROR: /!\
>>> >
>>> > Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
>>> > are
>>> > guaranteed to build on this syst
>>> em. Please upgrade to a supported release.
>>> >
>>> > No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
>>> > ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
>>> >
>>> > *** Error code 1
>>> >
>>> > Stop.
>>> > Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still 12,
>>> > and it's on stable. So what gives?
>>> >
>>> 12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.
>>> From release/12.1.0/ :
>> "Tag releng/12.1@r354233 as release/12.1.0 (12.1-RELEASE)"
>> I think that implicit in Warner's response is that
>> versions of stable/12/ that are not after r354233 are
>> also EOL. One needs to have stable/12/ material from
>> after -r354233 in order for it to be supported.
>> He might even mean that stable/12/ material from before:
>> "Tag releng/12.2@r366954 as release/12.2.0 (12.2-RELEASE)"
>> would also be considered as not supported.
>> To be safe you should be using stable/12/ material from
>> on or after -r366954 in order to have a supported
>> context.
>> (I'm not sure if anything is explicit about the status
>> of stable/12/ material between releng/12.1@r354233
>> and releng/12.2@r366954 .)
> A HUGE thanks for all of this, Mark. This is EXACTLY what I needed.
> 
> # uname -apKU
> FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64 
> amd64 1201522 1201522
> which pretty well confirms what you deduced.
> I'm still a bit confused. It seems to me that it didn't _used_
> to be that way. But my brain isn't using ECC. So a couple of
> bits may be flipped.

The implication of all of stable/12/ being supported
would be support of stable/12/ from on or after its
creation:

QUOTE
Revision 339434 - Directory Listing 
Modified Fri Oct 19 00:09:24 2018 UTC (2 years, 4 months ago) by gjb 
Copied from: head revision 339432
Copy head@r339432
 to stable/12 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle.

Additional post-branch commits will follow.
END QUOTE

Such does not seem likely to me. What would be the
point of dropping 12.0-RELEASE support and
12.1-RELEASE support if such stable/12/ history was
covered, some of that history being minor variations
on the 12.0-RELEASE or 12.1-RELEASE ?

Note:
Despite some claims in other messages, svn -r363918
is not 12.1-RELEASE ( not -r354233 ) and -r363918
is shown as (only) in stable/12/ by svn. Your
claim of 12-STABLE was correct, just not detailed
enough.


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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Brian W.
Ah didn't consider that this was an old enough ver of stable to cause this.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 6:08 PM Chris  wrote:

> On 2021-02-23 17:42, Mark Millard wrote:
> > (Warner is only CC'd here.)
> >
> > Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com wrote on
> > Wed Feb 24 01:04:13 UTC 2021 :
> >
> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
> >> > but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
> >> >
> >> > OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
> >> > usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
> >> > away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
> >> > day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
> >> > So I
> >> > svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
> >> > followed by a
> >> > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
> >> > which returns
> >> > make
> >> > /!\ ERROR: /!\
> >> >
> >> > Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no
> ports
> >> > are
> >> > guaranteed to build on this syst
> >> em. Please upgrade to a supported release.
> >> >
> >> > No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
> >> > ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
> >> >
> >> > *** Error code 1
> >> >
> >> > Stop.
> >> > Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still
> still 12,
> >> > and it's on stable. So what gives?
> >> >
> >>
> >> 12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.
> >
> >> From release/12.1.0/ :
> >
> > "Tag releng/12.1@r354233 as release/12.1.0 (12.1-RELEASE)"
> >
> > I think that implicit in Warner's response is that
> > versions of stable/12/ that are not after r354233 are
> > also EOL. One needs to have stable/12/ material from
> > after -r354233 in order for it to be supported.
> >
> > He might even mean that stable/12/ material from before:
> >
> > "Tag releng/12.2@r366954 as release/12.2.0 (12.2-RELEASE)"
> >
> > would also be considered as not supported.
> >
> > To be safe you should be using stable/12/ material from
> > on or after -r366954 in order to have a supported
> > context.
> >
> > (I'm not sure if anything is explicit about the status
> > of stable/12/ material between releng/12.1@r354233
> > and releng/12.2@r366954 .)
> A HUGE thanks for all of this, Mark. This is EXACTLY what I needed.
>
> # uname -apKU
> FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64
> amd64 1201522 1201522
> which pretty well confirms what you deduced.
> I'm still a bit confused. It seems to me that it didn't _used_
> to be that way. But my brain isn't using ECC. So a couple of
> bits may be flipped.
>
> >
> > Since you did not provide the output from the
> > likes of "uname -apKU" (or some rough equivalent)
> > I've no direct clue which version you were trying.
> > But you should be able to compare to the above to
> > see which range the material is from.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> --Chris
> >
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> > marklmi at yahoo.com
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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Chris

On 2021-02-23 17:42, Mark Millard wrote:

(Warner is only CC'd here.)

Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com wrote on
Wed Feb 24 01:04:13 UTC 2021 :


On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:

> Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
> but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
>
> OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
> usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
> away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
> day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
> So I
> svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
> followed by a
> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
> which returns
> make
> /!\ ERROR: /!\
>
> Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
> are
> guaranteed to build on this syst
em. Please upgrade to a supported release.
>
> No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
> ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
>
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still 12,
> and it's on stable. So what gives?
>

12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.



From release/12.1.0/ :


"Tag releng/12.1@r354233 as release/12.1.0 (12.1-RELEASE)"

I think that implicit in Warner's response is that
versions of stable/12/ that are not after r354233 are
also EOL. One needs to have stable/12/ material from
after -r354233 in order for it to be supported.

He might even mean that stable/12/ material from before:

"Tag releng/12.2@r366954 as release/12.2.0 (12.2-RELEASE)"

would also be considered as not supported.

To be safe you should be using stable/12/ material from
on or after -r366954 in order to have a supported
context.

(I'm not sure if anything is explicit about the status
of stable/12/ material between releng/12.1@r354233
and releng/12.2@r366954 .)

A HUGE thanks for all of this, Mark. This is EXACTLY what I needed.

# uname -apKU
FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64 
amd64 1201522 1201522

which pretty well confirms what you deduced.
I'm still a bit confused. It seems to me that it didn't _used_
to be that way. But my brain isn't using ECC. So a couple of
bits may be flipped.



Since you did not provide the output from the
likes of "uname -apKU" (or some rough equivalent)
I've no direct clue which version you were trying.
But you should be able to compare to the above to
see which range the material is from.


Thanks again!

--Chris


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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Chris

On 2021-02-23 17:07, Brian W. wrote:

12-stable is not what you're running if you got that error.

# uname -apKU
FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64 
amd64 1201522 1201522

Looks pretty STABLE to me.

--Chris

Run freebsd-update with appropriate args to get to a later release is the
easiest option.

Brian

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:04 PM Warner Losh  wrote:


On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:

> Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
> but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
>
> OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
> usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
> away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
> day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
> So I
> svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
> followed by a
> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
> which returns
> make
> /!\ ERROR: /!\
>
> Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
> are
> guaranteed to build on this system. Please upgrade to a supported
release.
>
> No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
> ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
>
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still
12,
> and it's on stable. So what gives?
>

12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.

Warner

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.
>
> --Chris

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
(Warner is only CC'd here.)

Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com wrote on
Wed Feb 24 01:04:13 UTC 2021 :

> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:
> 
> > Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
> > but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
> >
> > OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
> > usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
> > away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
> > day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
> > So I
> > svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
> > followed by a
> > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
> > which returns
> > make
> > /!\ ERROR: /!\
> >
> > Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
> > are
> > guaranteed to build on this syst
> em. Please upgrade to a supported release.
> >
> > No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
> > ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
> >
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop.
> > Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still 12,
> > and it's on stable. So what gives?
> >
> 
> 12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.

>From release/12.1.0/ :

"Tag releng/12.1@r354233 as release/12.1.0 (12.1-RELEASE)"

I think that implicit in Warner's response is that
versions of stable/12/ that are not after r354233 are
also EOL. One needs to have stable/12/ material from
after -r354233 in order for it to be supported.

He might even mean that stable/12/ material from before:

"Tag releng/12.2@r366954 as release/12.2.0 (12.2-RELEASE)"

would also be considered as not supported.

To be safe you should be using stable/12/ material from
on or after -r366954 in order to have a supported
context.

(I'm not sure if anything is explicit about the status
of stable/12/ material between releng/12.1@r354233
and releng/12.2@r366954 .)

Since you did not provide the output from the
likes of "uname -apKU" (or some rough equivalent)
I've no direct clue which version you were trying.
But you should be able to compare to the above to
see which range the material is from.

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Brian W.
12-stable is not what you're running if you got that error. Run
freebsd-update with appropriate args to get to a later release is the
easiest option.

Brian

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:04 PM Warner Losh  wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:
>
> > Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
> > but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
> >
> > OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
> > usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
> > away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
> > day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
> > So I
> > svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
> > followed by a
> > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
> > which returns
> > make
> > /!\ ERROR: /!\
> >
> > Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
> > are
> > guaranteed to build on this system. Please upgrade to a supported
> release.
> >
> > No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
> > ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
> >
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop.
> > Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still
> 12,
> > and it's on stable. So what gives?
> >
>
> 12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.
>
> Warner
>
> Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.
> >
> > --Chris
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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Warner Losh
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:

> Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
> but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
>
> OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
> usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
> away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
> day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
> So I
> svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
> followed by a
> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
> which returns
> make
> /!\ ERROR: /!\
>
> Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
> are
> guaranteed to build on this system. Please upgrade to a supported release.
>
> No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
> ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
>
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still 12,
> and it's on stable. So what gives?
>

12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.

Warner

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.
>
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When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Chris

Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@

OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
So I
svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
followed by a
cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
which returns
make
/!\ ERROR: /!\

Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports are
guaranteed to build on this system. Please upgrade to a supported release.

No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.

*** Error code 1

Stop.
Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still 12,
and it's on stable. So what gives?

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.

--Chris
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